1440P 120Hz! Overclocking my CRT Monitor

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2020
  • CRTs can be huge, but they also can be fast and beautiful. And I'm going to show you how to overclock them so you can make them even faster and even more beautiful. If you have an Nvidia card, I'll try to make an AMD video in the future.
    When messing with my ViewSonic p810, we can choose resolutions up to 1800 x 1440 (4:3 1440p) or up to 118 Hz. If you want to see more of this monitor, it is featured in my $200 Complete Setup video, the video can be found here: • $200 Complete Gaming S...
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  • @_quixote
    @_quixote 4 года назад +569

    *i mean, it's a curved screen, who doesn't like a curved screen?*

    • @x256h
      @x256h 4 года назад +52

      Curved the other way

    • @_quixote
      @_quixote 4 года назад +75

      @@x256h *well its still a curved screen*

    • @stacy3
      @stacy3 3 года назад +2

      Ronaldo Ross me

    • @stacy3
      @stacy3 3 года назад +1

      @YDBoss youre dumb

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 3 года назад +1

      me

  • @gzitterspiller
    @gzitterspiller 4 года назад +360

    No lag input, no motion blur... I would take it.

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 года назад +2

      If it has too high resolution it has inout delay

    • @gzitterspiller
      @gzitterspiller 3 года назад +47

      @@IAm-zo1bo Nope.

    • @retroke6560
      @retroke6560 3 года назад +14

      @@IAm-zo1bo there's no kind of buffer for that to happen, or anything really, pure analog tech, 4k 60hz? then you will get a 4k image every 16ms, want it sooner? crank the refreshrate up.

    • @Purple__
      @Purple__ 3 года назад +7

      There is motion blur.... the phosphors don't directly go back to black. If its better then high-end LCDs is debatable nowadays

    • @NUCLEARARMAMENT
      @NUCLEARARMAMENT 3 года назад +15

      @@Purple__ motion blur on CRTs is better than most LCDs, and the best LCDs with motion blur-reduction techniques, ironically, have insane input lag caused by strobing backlight drives, BFI (black frame insertion) processing which can add a half a frame of lag or worse, and this is all cumulatively adding up. CRTs are the gold standard for motion blur, phosphor excitation and decay times happen in well below a millisecond. You can't say that about the black-to-black/grey-to-grey/fall-to-rise on any LCD, maybe OLEDs get closer but they still suffer from BFI-induced processing lag that CRTs simply do not have to worry about due to the nature of an electron scanning beam and phosphor-coated vacuum tube for drawing persistent images humans can make illusory motion out of.

  • @gavcom4060
    @gavcom4060 4 года назад +382

    imagine telling ur friends that ur monitor is also overclocked

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 года назад +73

      gotta go fast

    • @alejandrobaffert9233
      @alejandrobaffert9233 4 года назад +10

      thats true bro, i have a lots of monitors in my house and one thay I test them all, and my old crt of 15 inch was the best looking, playing cs go at high level i can true the tell, this monitor has an incredible arquitecture, high quality picture and excellente fresh rates

    • @2coolnicky1
      @2coolnicky1 3 года назад +10

      I overclocked my laptop monitor to do 90hz. Its not uncommon even for LCD displays

    • @myface6739
      @myface6739 3 года назад +1

      rn i got a smooth 75hz

    • @TehChozen1
      @TehChozen1 3 года назад

      That Plotagon profile pic 👍🏻

  • @guywithalltheanswers6942
    @guywithalltheanswers6942 2 года назад +50

    I just managed to get an insane resolution at 60hz. 2560x1920 Unreal. The old CRT I grew up with had the power to beat my 1440p monitor I just bought. This is lunacy.

    • @dukcy7450
      @dukcy7450 Год назад +14

      We just never had cards that could render 4k at all to show the potential of crt in the early 2000’s

    • @zapa47
      @zapa47 5 дней назад

      I remember laughing at lcd gamers back in the day. Lcds didn't match crt until never. Oled is the only comparable tech to crt.

  • @chadstelk3957
    @chadstelk3957 4 года назад +152

    I miss my view sonic so bad. I should never have changed to flat panel. CRT was heavy and worked forever. That's why they had to be replaced with thousand dollar tvs that need replaced every 5 years.

    • @tezy0193
      @tezy0193 3 года назад +2

      More like 2 years ... my 55' samsung 4k tv lasted exactly that long, broke 2 months after warranty ended ( purple spots all over the panel ) btw and that was already the second panel, my original one was pretty much broken the day i bought it .. clouding and dark spots, got it replaced 6 months after i had it

    • @user-hr4hu8xb5f
      @user-hr4hu8xb5f 3 года назад +6

      Are you joking? CRT get screen burn-in pretty easy and the brightness is terrible.

    • @DarkLord-Melkor6
      @DarkLord-Melkor6 3 года назад +1

      I've never had a flat screen last more then like 2 years with out breaking in some way

    • @ducksonplays4190
      @ducksonplays4190 3 года назад +3

      @@user-hr4hu8xb5f your wrong crts can be very bright and screen burn in isn't really that easy an example of a bright crt is an IBM 5151

    • @user-hr4hu8xb5f
      @user-hr4hu8xb5f 3 года назад +2

      @@ducksonplays4190 IBM 5151 is a low resolution single color display, you compare it with full color crt and other display tech? LOL.

  • @akhilaryappatt7209
    @akhilaryappatt7209 3 года назад +47

    A screen with an ELECTRON GUN! those were the days.

    • @JinnaiT
      @JinnaiT 3 года назад +7

      Could also give you radiation poisoning, if there wasn't lead infused into the glass on the front!

    • @MrRobsn89
      @MrRobsn89 2 года назад +3

      @@JinnaiT That is untrue mate, crts emit only xrays and not radioactive radiation like alpha- beta- and gammarays. Still ionizing radiation though, but radioactive poisoning ist not even remotely possible, lead infused or not (you can't get poisoned by xrays, they don't emit particles except photons) Also only > 1% of total radiation are xrays which most of radiate in opposite direction of the viewers position (better not stand behind it in case of more "ancient" models). More modern TCO standards also made it completely safe to use certified crts...

    • @MrRobsn89
      @MrRobsn89 2 года назад +3

      Unless you spill liquid uranium on your crt and lick it up, then you can get radioactive poisoning from your crt haha... but better don't do it ;)

    • @sentheaS
      @sentheaS 2 года назад +1

      @@MrRobsn89 photons ARE gamma rays, just the ones in this case are fairly low energy. also, non-radioactive radiation is an oxymoron.

  • @pilotgeorge2000
    @pilotgeorge2000 4 года назад +26

    This video is incredible

  • @jacq0272
    @jacq0272 3 года назад +17

    Aww man. I miss CRT's so much!

  • @MrPhantomFury
    @MrPhantomFury 3 года назад +1

    I was in love with my old ViewSonic E50c that I got back in 2004 with my 1st PC ! That was a thing of beauty !

  • @thedopplereffect00
    @thedopplereffect00 3 года назад +45

    There was this weird period of time where everyone was stuck at 60 Hz with LCDs for over a decade. I really did miss gaming at 85 Hz on a CRT, but the sharpness of LCDs was just so much more compelling. Glad we now have 120 Hz and OLED tech now to match all best the qualities CRTs had.

    • @BradTate
      @BradTate 2 года назад +25

      we don't. not even close. you can't beat 0 input lag and 0 motion blur for FPS gaming. oled is the only thing that will even come close to rivaling CRT technology, and its not even as good.

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 2 года назад +1

      @@BradTate there is some input lag even on a CRT, but it's analog and effectivity less than 1 frame. A digital signal could as render within 1 frame as long as no buffering of the data stream takes place. I'm not sure if such a protocol exists though.

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 2 года назад

      @@BradTate also, good OLED or LCD should have no motion blur than a CRT now since they have no phosphors that retain an image.

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 года назад +3

      LCD is shlty.

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 года назад +2

      @@BradTate facking true.

  • @egegokdenizduman
    @egegokdenizduman 3 года назад +35

    I remember playing 1.6 1024x768@75Hz. It was so much better and smoother than the 1920x1080@60 TN with 7ms display I'm currently using to play Global Offensive.

    • @ChineseNinjaWarrior
      @ChineseNinjaWarrior 3 года назад

      I still use crt 160160hz. Lcd waste of money.

    • @prebenjaeger
      @prebenjaeger 2 года назад +1

      Probably because you didn't disable vsync

    • @EnormeEkoH
      @EnormeEkoH 2 года назад +1

      @@ChineseNinjaWarrior wtf

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb Год назад +3

      LCDs have an underappreciated problem. The illumination on an LCD is constant where as a CRT briefly illuminates very brightly for a few tens of microseconds when the beam scans a pixel (effectively it's like a rolling shutter scanning across the screen).
      If your eye is tracking an enemy that moves across your screen side to side in 1 second (which is not that fast, see e.g. an arena shooter like quake III or UT) on a 1920x1080 monitor at 60 Hz this means that your eyes move 32 pixels in a frame in a continuous motion. The image however moves in discrete steps of 32 pixels per frame. This mismatch between continuous analog motion and the discrete, discontinuous motion of the picture on the screen smears the image as your eyes scan across those 32 pixels smoothly. The effect is as if you had a 32 pixel "linear blur" filter in photoshop and it looks clear as mud. If you have a CRT however, the image briefly flashes in less time than it takes your eye to move 1 pixel; the after image on your retina is stationary, but your eyes are moving, giving no persistence blur at all and the illusion of smoother movement than the screen is capable of actually displaying. Flashing the image briefly (BFI etc.) is very helpful as long as it is occurring faster than the flicker fusion frequency, around 75-85 Hz for most people, so that the screen doesn't flicker noticeably.

    • @ricarnuninho80
      @ricarnuninho80 Месяц назад

      CRT better due to zero motion blur. 🤗

  • @analogcaptures2785
    @analogcaptures2785 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot I've been googling this for weeks.

  • @sourcey6620
    @sourcey6620 4 года назад +1

    All your videos are GOOD

  • @eggbag4182
    @eggbag4182 2 года назад +3

    The best budget gaming monitor you can get, coming to an attic near you

  • @HCRAYERT.
    @HCRAYERT. 3 года назад +1

    Is there a way to force interlace on games that don't detect interlaced naturally like Batman Arkham Knight?

  • @spazzwazzle
    @spazzwazzle 4 года назад +15

    You can set it to progressive scan in the nvidia menu. I'm running 1024x768 at 116hz progressive on my NEC950!

    • @uyfhkgc4468
      @uyfhkgc4468 2 года назад +2

      Interlaced is better on CRT TVs and Monitors.

    • @mr.jamster8414
      @mr.jamster8414 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@uyfhkgc4468 right, I think it's like the analog equivalent of doubling resolution or refresh rate without changing the bitrate...

  • @MyFancyGamer
    @MyFancyGamer 3 года назад +4

    i can push my old Visio tv at native 1360 by 768 to 144hz not the smoothest and def tears but this its pretty cool too think about the refresh rates i could of been getting when it was my main monitor.

  • @Zapp4rn
    @Zapp4rn 3 года назад +11

    You should try 900x720 quz thats the half of the resolution and 144hz

  • @estebancantero4751
    @estebancantero4751 12 дней назад

    watching this from my SyncMaster 794v OC at 113Hz :) still rocking with my old CRT!

  • @ElmoLovesYou2
    @ElmoLovesYou2 3 года назад

    can you show some gamecube/nes games on that? - because old games maked for CRT monitor(color correction) - how it's will look on that monitor?

  • @idkrossplay
    @idkrossplay Месяц назад +1

    you can do 1920x1440i 140+hz on that display, you need to download CRU and use an interlaced resolution

  • @jiunyann
    @jiunyann 3 года назад +6

    for the green tint and artifacts, im not sure if it helps but setting the color space from Full to Limited fixed my issue. anyone who is having this issue might wanna try that

  • @adenanthony5257
    @adenanthony5257 2 года назад

    It's beautiful. Must get.

  • @oldchannel6511
    @oldchannel6511 4 года назад +1

    i have a dell ultrascan p990 that can do 1600x1200 @ 75hz or if i go down to 1024x768 i can get 120hz out of it. its my main monitor along with another CRT which is a nec multisync 75 running at 1440x1050 @ 60hz as a secondary monitor

  • @softdreams1776
    @softdreams1776 3 года назад +3

    i had a few but thats a good res my laptop wont even go that high and its new

  • @hotf1ght3r93
    @hotf1ght3r93 3 года назад

    Have u try higher refresh rate in 1600*1200?

  • @Heyitdave
    @Heyitdave 2 года назад +1

    Haha I enjoyed this! And learned a lot

  • @rodrigofilho1996
    @rodrigofilho1996 3 года назад +40

    Try 1280x960 Progressive, and try to get it to 120Hz.
    Progressive > Interlaced

    • @muizzsiddique
      @muizzsiddique 3 года назад

      Does that really matter with CRT? (I don't know, I haven't used a CRT for PC gaming ever)

    • @rodrigofilho1996
      @rodrigofilho1996 3 года назад +2

      @@muizzsiddique Yes it does, its less important on CRTs but a progressive image will be more clean when the image is moving even on a CRT.

    • @muizzsiddique
      @muizzsiddique 3 года назад

      @@rodrigofilho1996 Oh okay. Thanks.

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 года назад

      what you mean? how is it better

    • @rodrigofilho1996
      @rodrigofilho1996 2 года назад

      @@AugustoV8Cesar Interlaced is actually half the refresh rate of progressive.

  • @gamerworld9661
    @gamerworld9661 3 года назад

    Best monitor for my gaming.

  • @Pentium100MHz
    @Pentium100MHz 3 года назад +14

    A "crappy HDMI to VGA adapter" may not be good enough for high resolutions and refresh rates. Most of them have a maximum pixel clock of 165MHz (which is about what you get with 1920x1080@60Hz). Older video cards could do up to 400MHz on their VGA outputs.
    A CRT monitor is basically limited by the horizontal and vertical frequencies. Newer models (like yours) detect if the signal is out of range and show and error message (older ones either show a distorted picture/nothing at all or just blow up). So, the problem with image quality that probably is because your HDMI to VGA converter is overclocked and producing those problems.
    As far as know, Delock 62967 (Display port -> VGA) is one of the few converters that can do high pixel clocks. Though it has problems with my KVM switch (plugging the monitor straight to it works fine).

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +2

      ive actually had a delock 87685 in my hand for awhile, been wanting to make a followup video

    • @Pentium100MHz
      @Pentium100MHz 3 года назад

      @@laserfights Looks like 87685 is also lower frequency
      From the Delock site "VGA resolution up to 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz" - though it looks better than the usual HDMI VGA adapters that only go up to 1920x1080@60Hz. It's probably 200MHz compared to the usual 165.
      So you may have the same problem at higher resolutions or refresh rates, at least according to official specs. Maybe the device can actually work at higher frequencies than the specs say though.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      @@Pentium100MHz i was under the impression that the 87685 is comparable to the DPU3000. Though, I have only heard that on r/crtgaming, I do not have the DPU3000 in hand to test.

    • @Pentium100MHz
      @Pentium100MHz 3 года назад

      @@laserfights The specs for DPU3000 do not explicitly say what's the maximum pixel clock for VGA, however, apparently it supports "max 2560x1600piex@60Hz each monitor." for "DisplayPort1.2 MST source: (multi video/audio steams)" which would be about 350MHz. I don't know if it's possible to have the MST source for a single monitor, but maybe.

    • @gabrielv.4358
      @gabrielv.4358 Год назад

      lol, blow up? I'd like to see that

  • @fuzey4544
    @fuzey4544 2 года назад +1

    yeah i remember how my crt monitor wasnt plugged into a surge protector like my pc. and it caught fire when there was a huge lighting storm.

  • @mikel9656
    @mikel9656 3 года назад +2

    There are IBM and Sony professional Trinatron monitors that could 120hz 1600x1200 progressive. I know i had one. It was 21 inch flat screen trinatron and it was massive weighed darn near 100lbs. Was amazing for motion. Just took up tomuch space to be practical. Only monitor that has kept up with it is my newest 144hz LG ulta gear ultra wide and it cost nearlyn 1000.

  • @JeanRobert650
    @JeanRobert650 Год назад +3

    I never had the same feeling that I had with a CRT on LCD. I would pay a big amount of money to have a new CRT, the best experience, sharpness picture on quick movement.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Год назад +2

      totally agree, hopefully OLED starts to get close

  • @dimitrilensflareabrams2893
    @dimitrilensflareabrams2893 3 года назад

    Wait so is there a qxga monitor out there??
    Thats 2048 by 1536

  • @sampletext69420
    @sampletext69420 3 года назад

    Perfect 2K gaming monitor

  • @oathanrex
    @oathanrex 3 года назад

    I am using crt moniter without graphic card its working fine even gta 5 too but when i use my 1050ti its start flickering , close and open screen , how i can solve this?

  • @kildozer2012
    @kildozer2012 3 года назад

    I have the pf790 and it goes to 165hz at 1440x1000, still use it every now and then

  • @L3THALXFOX
    @L3THALXFOX 3 года назад +6

    I have a 200hz hp crt. Man. It looks amazing. You just can't best that 3d look. Those amazing colors. And thirdly the fucking lack of motionblur and response time. Oh wait... the no pixels part? Leaving everything looking seamlessly natural to the naked eye

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay Год назад +2

      crts are amazing but oled is amazing as well

  • @inkedlad674
    @inkedlad674 3 года назад

    Nice video bro. I’d there a way for getting 100-120hz working on ps5/Xbox series x at a resolution of 1800x1440 to 1600x1200?

    • @seum.
      @seum. 3 года назад

      Sadly no

  • @Dave4000
    @Dave4000 2 года назад +1

    Can you still download and install the monitor "driver", either as an installer or just the .icc, .icm (or .inf) files?

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay Год назад

      not on windows 10 but it won't make a difference anyways

  • @juri14111996
    @juri14111996 3 года назад +13

    50fps interlaced is not 100fps, in fact it is 50 times a half frame (every second line). so 50i uses the same bandwidth as 25p

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 года назад +2

      cool bro. just wanted some1 to counter argue you but no1 did.😥

    • @uncrustable9923
      @uncrustable9923 Год назад +1

      @@AugustoV8Cesar lmaooo

  • @dragonslayerlance
    @dragonslayerlance 3 года назад

    oh wow. i kinda want this monitor. but wouldn't the phosphors be active to long and give you ghosting? this is a very interesting video. i want to know how long the actual pixels glow. i have a lot of question about the mechanics of this monitor.

    • @dragonslayerlance
      @dragonslayerlance 3 года назад

      @jamestmartin wow that is so frikin cool man. thank you so much for that amazing knowledge. you frikin rock james

  • @analogcaptures2785
    @analogcaptures2785 3 года назад

    How do you play Steam games in interlaced resolutions? My steam games only show progressive resolutions in the in game settings.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      it should be something graphics card / monitor setting specific not steam

  • @zuubu
    @zuubu 3 года назад

    What’s the con of using interlaced? I’m going to use a similar monitor to play CS, and with interlaced, it can go to MUCH higher refresh rates, but I can’t test how it looks like yet because my adapter didn’t arrive.

    • @madslentoft6682
      @madslentoft6682 3 года назад

      Interlaced means that only every second row will be updated every frame. Going from progressive to interlaced can double your frame rate, but it looks horrible with horizontal movement.

    • @compuguy123
      @compuguy123 3 года назад

      Interlaced 16001200 looks absolutely insane on csgo, and as well as 1080p 16:9 on it.

  • @valentinbarinov
    @valentinbarinov 2 месяца назад

    WarHammer Darktide looks amazing on a crt

  • @stryker94
    @stryker94 Год назад

    Awesomeness

  • @TripleMoonPanda
    @TripleMoonPanda 4 года назад +10

    Great video I wish I had that monitor (I have a Viewsonic A90 which is not bad but not as good as that one), but just letting you know that monitor can do way higher refresh rates then that. It has a horizontal refresh rate of 110khz so if you do the math which is 110000 divided by the horizontal resolution you want to use times .95 and that will give you the max refresh rate for that resolution in progressive mode not interlaced. So lets say you wanna do 1024x768p you take 110000/768x.95= 136.0677. . . So you could run 1024x768 at 136hz max without using interlaced resolutions. Only problem is that I don't know if your hdmi to vga adapter can handle the bandwidth. That adapter might be the only thing holding you back. look into getting a higher quality one or if you have a usb c out on your gpu look for a usb c to vga 4k adaptor.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 года назад +1

      Wow I had no idea, I'm going to have to do some testing. Thanks!

    • @TripleMoonPanda
      @TripleMoonPanda 4 года назад

      @@laserfights Hey np, here's a great guide to using CRTs that someone made and posted here it helped me learn a lot about mine linustechtips.com/main/topic/1050162-navs-complete-crt-guide/

    • @TripleMoonPanda
      @TripleMoonPanda 4 года назад

      @@laserfights Also I've been looking for more content about modern gaming on CRTs, most people that are into these monitors are mostly into retro gaming. I've already posted a couple short benchmark videos on my channel just to get some more stuff out there, but I was thinking you should also focus more on CRTs and Modern games I think people would really enjoy that kind of content (I know I do) and it helps spread the word about how good a nice CRT really can be. It's a really unique experience.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 года назад +1

      @@TripleMoonPanda I would absolutely be interested in posting more crt content. If you have any suggestions or even places/guides/etc for more information I would greatly appreciate it.

    • @TripleMoonPanda
      @TripleMoonPanda 4 года назад

      @@laserfights Well Digital foundrys videos on the subject are a great place to start, but you might've already seen that. I'm in this facebook group call the CRT collective and there are a lot of great people who love CRT monitors and TVs also there's the CRTGaming subreddit. That's most of the best places I know to go for information. I'm going to start trying to post some more videos actually on the subject I just don't know where to start, I'm still learning about all this stuff also. But if you have some simple questions just throw them my way and I'll do my best to help out.

  • @TechClapEng
    @TechClapEng 3 года назад +1

    I just subcribed you from my 2 accounts. I am new in youtube. Fan of your CRT Tutorial. Going to make a CRT Video soon. Does you can do it with Samsung CRT Monitors???

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +1

      thank you. i do not have any samsung crt monitors but you should be able to push most crt monitors at least some.

    • @TechClapEng
      @TechClapEng 3 года назад

      @@laserfights Thank you man!

  • @alithebot1753
    @alithebot1753 3 года назад +1

    I do have a crt monitor its horizontal refresh rate is 70KHz and vertical refresh rate is 140hz which res sould i use to get 120Hz pls reply*

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 3 года назад

      just decrease the resolution and test. 640x480p should be the optimal, or try 1024x768

  • @DanielGomez-bp6be
    @DanielGomez-bp6be 3 года назад

    How do u do it

  • @Hoowahoowa
    @Hoowahoowa 3 года назад +3

    Thats a pocket cinema 4k. Recognized it the second i saw the reflection. Haha :D

  • @lopiklop
    @lopiklop 2 года назад

    That **is** a really good monitor for the price (fckn free)
    These were the ones we had at my local cybercafe in '04-'06

  • @SUPRAMIKE18
    @SUPRAMIKE18 3 года назад

    I swear this is literaly my old monitor I had back in 1999/2004 xD

  • @hulksmashnoobsgotit2387
    @hulksmashnoobsgotit2387 3 года назад +1

    more crts getting thrown away = MORE FLYBACKS YEA BOIIIIIII

  • @hitka488
    @hitka488 3 года назад

    Will this work on a Wipro CRT (I mean is it good for all CRTs ??)

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      The quality of the CRT will affect what the max refresh rate and resolution will be

    • @hitka488
      @hitka488 3 года назад

      @@laserfights k Thanks

  • @dezolatestation
    @dezolatestation 3 года назад +1

    if i use dvi to vga convert,, how significant change the input lag? , coz i heard the crt are op for fps games

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +1

      if you are doing analog to analog i dont think there should be any lag

    • @TheEVGAftw
      @TheEVGAftw 3 года назад

      Shit was i limiting myself with hdmi to vga. And of course my analog 980ti broke

    • @zuubu
      @zuubu 3 года назад

      @@TheEVGAftw so what you’re using now? My monitor is VGA, should I buy an hdmi adapter?

  • @saleemnasir2k
    @saleemnasir2k 2 года назад

    I can run 1920x1440 on my dell m992(96khz) to 1920x1440 120hz interlaced

  • @joman104
    @joman104 3 года назад

    my CRT(dell-m781s) can do 1600 by 900 at 150i

  • @XrTrail.
    @XrTrail. Год назад

    it really works ver i changed my monitor to 129hz it's amazing

  • @cjbrown2922
    @cjbrown2922 Год назад

    Mine reached that limit but when i select the 120 hetz it say swithc back :the screen to 85 hertz is it my gpu or idk

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Год назад

      i would try messing with different resolutions as well as refresh rates and see what combinations you can get.
      generally speaking, lower resolution should let you push a higher frame rate. and a higher resolution will give you a lower frame rate.
      if your lower resolutions are all trying to go to 120 hz but swapping to 85, id think it would be your gpu or at least a setting with it

  • @The-E-Base
    @The-E-Base Год назад

    Imagine even having a working CRT.
    Last time it happened to me was with a PS790 in May 2022, and it only lasted 12 months.

  • @User_3303_
    @User_3303_ 3 года назад +1

    Xbox series x will only support up to 120hz and was wondering if a CRT is faster than a 240hz monitor when both are at 120hz. Would the 240hz still on 120hz outspeed a CRT at 120hz? I know for sure the 240hz at 240hz is faster but was wondering this since I’m buying a monitor for Xbox series x.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      i would go with the 240hz monitor

    • @User_3303_
      @User_3303_ 3 года назад

      @@laserfights is the 240hz faster than CRT at 120hz?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      @@User_3303_ there are lots of factors with things like ghosting, response time, and etc that aren't accounted for via refresh rate numbers like 240hz and 120hz. If you are buying a decent 240hz monitor, then I would think it would be much easier to have support for newer games, and I would recommend going with something newer based on that alone.

  • @DarkdotMan
    @DarkdotMan 2 года назад

    I don't know why I was here, I just watched to listen to advices only. I figured it out already.

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 2 года назад +1

    1080 has been pretty standard for a few years now 1440 has become almost standard but most TV's are moving to 4k now

  • @thesmashtvnetwork
    @thesmashtvnetwork 3 года назад

    they need bring out a 4k crt

  • @HC-Alfred
    @HC-Alfred Месяц назад

    watching this 2024 with my old Sony trinitron at 1280 x 960 and 85hz. just swapped from my main 165hz monitor and i can tell that 165hz LCD has never been smoother than this 85hz CRT. if i could get my hands on something like even 21" CRT, i propably stick with that as long as it has time left

  • @NandR
    @NandR Год назад +2

    Looks great. But I think this is 1440i not 1440p. The i stands for interlaced.

  • @aerton091
    @aerton091 Год назад

    No matter what I do, after reseting my PC, the black screen pops up. I've tried everything and it doesn't seem to be working. GTX 750ti via VGA. Samsung 19", that's 160hz capable. Watched various tutorials on how to set interlaced, followed it step by step, but it always fails in the same manner. What could I be doing wrong, any idea?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Год назад +1

      i actually don’t normally use mine in interlaced, so unfortunately im not really much help. how old are the tutorials? i remember reading that nvidia did some weird stuff with interlaced awhile ago

    • @wickedstudios7477
      @wickedstudios7477 Год назад +1

      try low resolution progressive, something like 640x480@160hz using the cvt timing preset. im assuming you have something like a 955df and it should be able to do that

    • @wickedstudios7477
      @wickedstudios7477 Год назад +1

      modern versions of windows and nvidia drivers also hate outputing interlaced signals, it could also be that youre trying to run a resoluton that is too high for ur gpus pixel clock (unlikely but not impossible)

  • @tim-linssen
    @tim-linssen 3 года назад

    Brhu think of the ppi and then say it again on a phone is a lower resolution but more picsel per inch

  • @jreamer971
    @jreamer971 3 года назад

    How did you record without flickering?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +1

      had to mess with my shutter speed on my camera

  • @phil_matic
    @phil_matic 3 года назад

    So to use these, I assume you're using some sort of adapter? is it HDMI to VGA? or Displayport to VGA?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +1

      im using hdmi to vga for this video, but im going to make another video soon on a displayport to vga adapter

    • @phil_matic
      @phil_matic 3 года назад

      @@laserfights ok... i'm just wondering which adapter produces better results

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      @@phil_matic the one im using in the video isnt very good, i mean it works but i cant push it very far

    • @phil_matic
      @phil_matic 3 года назад

      @@laserfights it's hard to see from the video, but how does it compare? is it worth the hunt for these monitors? CRT monitors are pretty much impossible to find, where i'm at

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      @@phil_matic in terms of cost effectiveness, a cheap hdmi to vga adapter is pretty good. the other adapter im testing is like $100.
      You also don't need a better adapter if you have a crt monitor that you cant push very far. This monitor is pretty good quality so I can do a lot with it, but if you are having trouble finding one at all then you might not get one as nice.
      I enjoy having my crts, but I never would have bought them online and had them shipped to me, because shipping these huge things is expensive. I would just check around craigslist and facebook marketplace from time to time and see what you can find.
      If you have any more questions about it, I'm down to make an entire video about things like when you should get a crt or what crts are great for or etc.

  • @Simone-qr6mq
    @Simone-qr6mq 3 года назад

    Is it a good idea to replace an LCD monitor with a CRT one for non-gaming related purposes?

    • @sergeantbananiel3438
      @sergeantbananiel3438 3 года назад

      Hell no

    • @ogsleepdealer
      @ogsleepdealer 3 года назад +2

      Only if you're doing stuff like watching older shows, cartoons, movies, etc. Doing video editing/audio editing on one is not fun

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +2

      if you are alright with the different aspect ratio then yeah sure it has plenty of resolution just be careful about what you get and check the specs

    • @TheRealJohnHooper
      @TheRealJohnHooper 3 года назад +1

      Do whatever you like.. Gaming on a CRT is incredible good..

    • @alpzepta
      @alpzepta 2 года назад

      @@ogsleepdealer video editing might be benefit a crt if you do color correcting

  • @SalveMonesvol
    @SalveMonesvol Год назад +1

    When running interlaced, the higher the refresh rate, the better it works and the less you are likely to notice a difference.
    This monitor should be capable of 1600*1200 interlaced at 180hz, more fluid than any other display I know of, even 120hz OLED, 240hz IPS or even 360hz VA.
    Try it. For pixel timings choose CVT:Reduced blanking.
    Try it with CS:GO. This can actually give you a competitive advantage. Of you have problems try a different converter or an RX 390X

  • @GunduyVlogs
    @GunduyVlogs 4 года назад +1

    How bout the botton below the monitor to adjust the screen

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 года назад +1

      i have to re-adjust the screen every time i change the resolution on the monitor and sometimes i forget haha

    • @bigalejoshileno
      @bigalejoshileno 4 года назад

      @@laserfights some timing combinations cannot be handled by digital tuned monitors. In that case, manual adjusting of the timing coming from video card would be needed

  • @brandonphilander661
    @brandonphilander661 3 года назад

    I want to get the Asus Tuf Gaming VG289Q 4K IPS monitor, would I be able to overclock it to 90Hz?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +1

      The ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q is rated at a maximum refresh rate of 60 Hz. With most newer monitors, if you can overclock it then they will let you know.
      I do not personally have experience with that monitor, but I would assume you will not be able to hit 90 Hz.

    • @brandonphilander661
      @brandonphilander661 3 года назад

      @@laserfights Thank you.

    • @brandonphilander661
      @brandonphilander661 3 года назад

      @@laserfights Thank you.

    • @ozmobozo
      @ozmobozo 3 года назад +2

      You most likely can get to 72 and maybe 75. I don't recommend going for more because it may overheat.

    • @brandonphilander661
      @brandonphilander661 3 года назад +1

      @@ozmobozo Thank you.

  • @thedrbat9572
    @thedrbat9572 3 года назад +2

    How do you even get a CRT monitor in 2020? I had one from 2007-2011 but I didn't realize at that time that the LCDs arent as good :(

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +1

      I just never got rid of this one. you can keep an eye out on the used market but honestly it's hard to get one without paying a ton

    • @thedrbat9572
      @thedrbat9572 3 года назад

      @@laserfights oh thanks

    • @catorb6607
      @catorb6607 3 года назад

      r/crtgaming, find a listing in your area.

    • @thedrbat9572
      @thedrbat9572 3 года назад

      @@catorb6607 my area probably doesn't have one. i live in a small town and the closest electronics store is an hour away

    • @catorb6607
      @catorb6607 3 года назад +1

      @@thedrbat9572 thats probably true then. I live in nowhere Missouri and I had to meet some guy at a mall 2 hours away from my house. But now i have a 1440p CRT!!! Priorities

  • @BeAk5
    @BeAk5 3 года назад

    can i oc my lcd 60 hz monitor via interlaced option, is it safe?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад +1

      it probably wouldn't cause damage (i am not 100% on that so do at your own risk), in regards to it being safe or not, but it also probably wouldn't do much beneficial. Using interlaced via an analog display vs a digital one is pretty different, I haven't personally tried interlaced over a lcd but i would think it would just look weird (assuming you could even get it to work)

    • @BeAk5
      @BeAk5 3 года назад

      @@laserfights Thanks mate

  • @ChineseNinjaWarrior
    @ChineseNinjaWarrior 3 года назад +3

    Download CRU custom resolution utility. You can set resolution and timing to max of your horizontal frequency 240 or something for your monitor. Im on mobile phone so I cant see it well. You can also enable interlaced resolution which doubles screen height so you can have the same resolution at max 160hz or how much ur mon supports. Downside for interlaced image is its bad for text in windows, but its good for games and movies.

  • @KIX1
    @KIX1 Год назад +2

    What memories the web CNET. A few years ago they removed all traces of CRT monitors, and many of these now have almost no information on the Internet :'/

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Год назад

      :(

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up Месяц назад +1

      The worst part is many of those pages were not even saved to the wayback machine so they really are gone, I had one saved in my bookmarks for my Compaq 21" CRT many years ago, and now I wanted to check the specs again and boom it's gone, no trace of it not even in the archive's wayback machine, the manuals are gone too, it reaaaally sucks.

  • @CrispyStrahan
    @CrispyStrahan 3 года назад

    Bro my 1998 monitor be running 120hz...on 480p what do you think i can get at a decent res and hz i cant get a good middle ground so far

    • @JinnaiT
      @JinnaiT 3 года назад

      your monitor might not be fast enough, the electron gun has to turn on and off faster to display the pixels at a higher frequency, so every monitor has a maximum vertical frequency it's rated for

    • @CrispyStrahan
      @CrispyStrahan 3 года назад

      @@JinnaiT yeah it is a 70 khz max i learned about this stuff and i can get 1650x1050i@120hz

    • @JinnaiT
      @JinnaiT 3 года назад

      @@CrispyStrahan I don't think there's any 70khz monitor, maybe you mean 70hz? I think the horizontal frequency is always set at 31 kHz, as far as I can read.

    • @CrispyStrahan
      @CrispyStrahan 3 года назад

      @@JinnaiT my pc is not up rn so im not able to check but its 70 something

    • @mrsir5784
      @mrsir5784 2 года назад +1

      @@JinnaiT 70khz is correct that's the average 17 crt monitor your thinking of crt tvs those are 31khz and those run at 1080i or 480p 15 khz is 480 which is standard old crt tv 31khz is considered hd for crt tvs

  • @StasonST19
    @StasonST19 11 месяцев назад

  • @mrwang420
    @mrwang420 2 года назад

    It's 1800x1440 because it is 4:3 aspect.

  • @kiritoxfps
    @kiritoxfps 3 года назад +3

    I have an amd rx 480 8 gb with my crt monitor 1360x768 160 hz,i use cru(custom resolution utility) because it let me choose fullscreen in games ;)

  • @sphericmystifiedaberration9469
    @sphericmystifiedaberration9469 7 месяцев назад

    My monitor can do 800x600 120 hertz / 1024x768 100 hertz / 1366x768 86 hertz / 1920x1080 60 hertz and many other cuztomized resolutions but those are the ones i mostly use... motion clarity is at another level if compared to LCD, LED,OLED... that said, i must confess i prefer using LED over CRT because of the flickering, it's so hard on the eyes that it makes you want go running back to LED,/LCD- IPS.

  • @Pe721
    @Pe721 3 года назад

    use cru tool to do even higher hz

  • @RavenWinify
    @RavenWinify 3 года назад

    i had to check and see if this was an april fools joke

  • @tristan6509
    @tristan6509 4 года назад

    Did you try interlacing? You can push it even further with that.

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 года назад

      I can not get interlaced working for me on windows 10. I'm thinking of putting linux on my desktop, so hopefully that has better odds of working.

    • @tristan6509
      @tristan6509 4 года назад +3

      @@copper4eva use CRU (custom resolution utility) and don't forget to set the timing to "CRT standard", I wanted to link you bit YT doesn't allow that anymore.

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 года назад

      @@tristan6509
      That's what I did. Didn't work. Idk, it seems like some people can get it to work, and some can't.

    • @tristan6509
      @tristan6509 4 года назад

      @@copper4eva what is your specs?
      -set it to 60 interlaced
      -restart your PC
      -right click desktop and click display settings
      -scroll down and click advanced display settings
      -click "display adapter properties for display x"
      -click list all modes
      -select [screen resolution], 60hz (interlaced)
      Click ok and then apply.
      If it doesn't work, select another non-interlaced display setting, apply it, and then change it back to interlaced
      You also might need to adjust your monitor's overscan.
      Edit: I mean 60 interlaced if you want 120hz, 72 interlaced if you want 144hz, etc.

    • @mr.jamster8414
      @mr.jamster8414 8 месяцев назад

      @@copper4eva huh? my LCD can even do interlaced on windows 10 for some reason.

  • @flamestornado9272
    @flamestornado9272 4 года назад

    Hello. I did make a custom resolution for my crt 1680x1050i 120hz but my problem was in desktop scaling. I did get the job done at first. After a few days i updated nvidia drivers and the scaling is reset so i did it again. And today i shut down my computer in a hurry it was launching forza so when i booted it up again the scaling is reset again. I can't figure out how did i do scaling correctly with nvidia control panel. The displayed resolution is larger than my screen at default. Using the display buttons to control stretching doesn't help windows desktop scaling also can't help

  • @user-1wy8wu01
    @user-1wy8wu01 3 года назад

    Can someone say if this really works or it just tricks your GPU to show that it's running 160-180 fps???

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 года назад

      what do you mean by tricking your gpu?

    • @user-1wy8wu01
      @user-1wy8wu01 3 года назад

      @@laserfights Is it correct to assume that you could do 1920x1440 @ 75 Hz interlaced and to have the following end-product: 1920x1440 @ 150 Hz ?
      Am I even getting this right? That interlaced doubles refresh rate?

  • @zuffin1864
    @zuffin1864 Год назад +1

    Best my monitor can do is 762p at 110hz, but i still love it :)

  • @GERALD_786
    @GERALD_786 2 года назад

    when crt monitors have better resolution and refresh rate than your lcd screen:

  • @josephdias5859
    @josephdias5859 Год назад

    they need to make 4k crts now

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Год назад

      hopefully OLEDs are going in that direction. My LG C1 does black frame insertion which can bring help with motion clarity, but the C2 doesnt even have the feature so idk what they are doing.

  • @pawetrybus9464
    @pawetrybus9464 2 года назад

    powerstrip ... that was program! try it and u love it ... dedicated for CRT

  • @JaimeRosario884
    @JaimeRosario884 2 года назад

    I know this is an old video, but, just in case this monitor is still alive, I tried raising the refresh rate on an old CRT monitor to 90hz, 800p resolution. After a couple seconds the screen went black and the monitor started to smell like it was burning XD. So yeah, it died

  • @minidreschi2
    @minidreschi2 2 года назад

    So according to CD video about Interlacing topic: ruclips.net/video/5eu_KjKsnpM/видео.html The CRT monitor probably still refresh at the same rate just mix 2 frame together and that how 60 progressive frame become 120 interlaced frame
    so i'm guess it's not trully overclock? but change my mind

  • @beamboy07
    @beamboy07 Год назад

    Better than led thjs is

  • @foxdavion6865
    @foxdavion6865 2 года назад +3

    The main downside is they use VGA or in the case of the high end models with crazy resolutions - DVI. Which are formats which have both been discontinued; Thankfully, as you said because they interlace differently, using a converter doesn't impact the video quality. We're talking interlaced VGA and DVI here which translates crisper than even Analog RGB - not something like composite. Yeah with this sort of stuff it's all analog, we're talking wave signals here, not digital LCD pixel signals.

  • @bakamunati8269
    @bakamunati8269 3 года назад

    I too had a viewsonic monitor looked exactly like this. I don't know the specs cus why would 5 yo me know shit, all I remember was the screen wasn't curved. God I regret getting rid of it 😥

  • @korsoupp6450
    @korsoupp6450 3 года назад

    I got this to work But I have a big black bar above the top of my crt

    • @fliegenpilztim4914
      @fliegenpilztim4914 3 года назад

      select your screen to stretch or center it instead of scaling

    • @korsoupp6450
      @korsoupp6450 3 года назад

      @@fliegenpilztim4914 in the nvidia settings or through my crt?

    • @fliegenpilztim4914
      @fliegenpilztim4914 3 года назад +1

      @@korsoupp6450 nvidia settings heres a pic of the window www.computerbase.de/forum/attachments/screen-2-png.695602/

  • @copper4eva
    @copper4eva 4 года назад +27

    If you want, you can buy an older gtx card (like a 900 series or whatever) that has analog out. And if you have two pci express slots on your motherboard, you can run it together with your 1080 Ti. Like, your 1080 Ti will still be doing all the work, the 900 series will literally just be outputting analog for you. Basically an over glorified digital to analog converter. You can get an older Nvidia pretty cheap of course.
    That CRT is a beast. You can definitely get higher refresh rates with an analog connection rather than your hdmi converter. I was able to get 1280x1024@137Hz, and my CRT ain't half what yours is. I wish I could get once like yours, that thing is a beast. These things can be overclocked.
    ruclips.net/video/Ya3c1Ni4B_U/видео.html
    This dude got his running at 2496x1872@60Hz. Completely insane what some of these things can do.

    • @webb4158
      @webb4158 4 года назад +2

      Is that a Nvidia only thing or will it work with AMD too? I couldn't find any info online about it.

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 года назад +4

      @@webb4158
      Funny you should ask, on the crtgaming reddit somebody said in the comments that they had done it with AMD graphics cards. So, if he is to be believed, then yes, you can.
      It really works rather well, if you have a desktop that can support it obviously. You might have trouble getting the OS you use to figure out that you have two GPU's, but once you do, then you're good.

    • @syk9309
      @syk9309 4 года назад

      Бро, спасибо за совет, надо самому попробовать. Спасибо ещё раз и удачи =)

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 года назад +1

      @Big Smoke
      I have a 5 monitor setup with a 960 GTX and 1060 GTX. So multiple monitors are fine.
      Only one analog out though sadly. I guess you'll have to look at older cards, which might have multiple analog outputs, but I'm not sure.

    • @juanme555
      @juanme555 4 года назад

      @@copper4eva how do you do that