Three Reasons to Buy a CRT TV or Monitor | The Basic Reasons to Get One (or not)

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    I've been doing most of my gaming on a CRT TV or a CRT monitor for the past couple of years.... and there are several reasons why. We'll discuss the reasons. There are 3 questions you need to ask yourself to determine if you should get a CRT:
    1. How much do you care about fluidity of motion?
    2. Do you care about the picture quality?
    3. Is nostalgia important to you for old gaming?
    There are several other questions we could ask, but I think those are the primary things we should go over when talking about CRT monitors.
    I used a 27" Sony Trinitron CRT TV, a Magnavox 23" CRT TV, a 27"JVC I'Art CRT TV, and a Gateway VX1120 CRT monitor. The TVs were all hooked up with component (RGB) connectors and the monitor was hooked up using a Delock display port to VGA adapter.
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    TOC:
    00:00 Intro
    00:42 Ad
    02:00 The Difference Between CRT Monitors and TV
    03:30 Discussing Linus's Video on the Sony GDMFW9000
    04:26 Delock 87685 Display Port to VGA adapter
    05:38 What is different about a CRT Monitor?
    07:20 Does Motion Fluidity Matter?
    08:06 Slow Motion CRT Operation
    11:22 Why Games Look Better On CRT
    14:07 Why Low Res and TV Blur is Good
    18:35 CRT Filters in RetroArch on a Flat Monitor
    19:10 What TV and Console to Get
    20:02 Nostalgia is Valid
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  • @Peter_1986
    @Peter_1986 Год назад +77

    I often see people criticise the use of modern screens for old-school games, and I think I am starting to understand why they do that.
    One reason is probably that modern screens give people an unfair impression of what old games used to look like when they were played on actual CRT screens - they did _not_ look rough, grainy and pixelated, because CRT screens were smaller in size and also had scanlines that helped with disguising the pixels, so old games actually looked _better_ than we remember them.

    • @sonyx4500
      @sonyx4500 Год назад +15

      Its not only that. Crts had perfect motion clarity, great contrast and colours. And they didn't have to upscale the image.

    • @terrylyn
      @terrylyn 11 месяцев назад +2

      That's what he said on the video.

    • @nurbsivonsirup1416
      @nurbsivonsirup1416 6 месяцев назад +1

      When I was younger, I always wondered why the cutscenes in Command&Conquer looked so much worse on our family Mac, than they did on my friend's PS1. Now I know, it was the scanlines and lower resolution of the TV that hid the compression artifacts you could see so clearly on a PC monitor.

  • @Pixelhorizon
    @Pixelhorizon Год назад +111

    It´s funny listening to some people speaking about how they like their games "raw" with no bilinear filter because it looks blurred and they like to see the pixels like in the "old days"... The screen was blurry! Colors merged and were blended together so we could get the feeling that the resolution was higher than it really was... And it was beautiful :)

    • @jonpirovsky
      @jonpirovsky Год назад +11

      Except that bilinear filtering does not provide the same image as a CRT, as anyone familiar with dithering can tell you...

    • @Pixelhorizon
      @Pixelhorizon Год назад +4

      @@jonpirovsky I'm talking about the image beeing blurry... That's how screens used to be... I use bilinesr filter in my crt monitor when I play in my Mister because that's a fast way to get games the look they had when I played them 30 plus years ago. Is it the proper way they should look? Of course not. But that makes more sense to me than having sharp pixels, that's all I'm saying. Chill out man 🙂

    • @jonpirovsky
      @jonpirovsky Год назад +7

      @@Pixelhorizon I got your point. I tend not to use bilinear filtering as I think it's a very limited method to emulate the CRT look - though it's better than nothing, I agree. In retroarch-based emulators, I always have a number of shaders applied that do this job considerably better, that's what I meant to say.
      Games that used to depend heavily on dithering techniques, such as PSX and Mega Drive titles, suffer quite a lot on modern displays and it's kinda hard to emulate that look properly.

    • @Pixelhorizon
      @Pixelhorizon Год назад +1

      @@jonpirovsky I agree with you, we´re on the same page 👍

    • @dm.3145
      @dm.3145 Год назад +1

      @@jonpirovsky Agreed I like the blur on a CRT but not with bilinear filter

  • @dcaffran
    @dcaffran Год назад +17

    Oh man, the fluidity. My first monitor was a 15" CRT and I loved it. When I managed to finally get a used Voodoo 2 my jaw dropped. When I finally "upgraded" after 8 years (96-04) I was so dissapointed. To get that fluidity back, that's all I want from technology.

    • @spaceghostcqc2137
      @spaceghostcqc2137 Год назад +3

      A high fps monitor is pretty fluid. LCD and OLED both have their issues with motion (though imo can still be pretty convincing), but DLP projectors and Plasma TVs tend to look very fluid.

  • @joshmiller887
    @joshmiller887 Год назад +94

    The widescreen HD CRTs do in fact upscale the image and it does introduce a bit of latency, but it works extremely well for PS2, Xbox and Dreamcast. People were writing off HD CRTs for years…I finally see some appreciation for them recently. Nice video!

    • @wg8561
      @wg8561 Год назад +7

      You are right imo. I also have a 32" Sony xbr 970. I bought it used last year from a guy right down the street from me. I think it's pretty good overall. I've played MvC 3 quite a lot on it and I won't say there's no lag because there probably is, but it feels fine to me.
      The TV itself has a pretty good picture but probably could benefit from a recap and pro calibration. I would have loved to try it brand new. As is it can't compare to my D24 which is razor sharp.
      I don't know if it will make the cut in game room I'm building, as I don't want it too cluttered. If I do then I'll try to have it serviced. If not I'll find a good home for it.

    • @Finakechi
      @Finakechi Год назад +4

      SD content yes, though depending on the tube 480p can be native and lagless as you'd expect.

    • @Taylordeanhall
      @Taylordeanhall Год назад +2

      I have a Samsung crt model tx-r3079wh. Basically perfect condition. Would any of ya be interested?

    • @joshmiller887
      @joshmiller887 Год назад

      @@Taylordeanhall where ya located Taylor?

    • @uhoh4961
      @uhoh4961 Год назад +1

      I have a Panasonic hd cry and it never gets the aspect ratio correct when I play PS2 games. I even picked up some component cables for playing gt4. Gt4 plays in 1080i but it looks squished. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I wish I had the remote it came with.

  • @ssg2991
    @ssg2991 Год назад +4

    I think you've convinced me. I'll probably buy some sort of crt now. So many old games I missed out on. Great video.

  • @eingilddeclaro6171
    @eingilddeclaro6171 Год назад +1

    Your recent vids are bangers man. I’m really glad I rediscovered your channel.

  • @Nattraks
    @Nattraks Год назад +1

    Got my coffee and a new TS vid pops up? Great way to start Saturday

  • @chrismarzarella2106
    @chrismarzarella2106 Год назад +4

    Just bought an MSI curved 32". I love it, but i see these colors and fluidity of the CRT and it's so much better. I would love to see these comeback as a curved screen and larger.

  • @2BuckFridays
    @2BuckFridays Год назад +50

    Good video, most people don't go on about the motion clarity enough, for me it is the single most important aspect of CRTs!
    And yeah, being able to change the refresh rate and resolution is amazing, for some games, lower the resolution and get really high refresh rates, for others, resolution matters more. I put a CRT monitor on my desk for retro games and melee, but I find myself trying to play anything that will work well with 4:3 and 5:4 aspect ratios, the contrast and motion clarity is just so amazing...
    Also yeah, shout out to homebrewed Wiis! The GOAT

    • @FrostRare
      @FrostRare Год назад

      Do you know whether or not there are any boutique, designer CRT monitor manufacturers that are producing units that are compatible with modern software? If no, I feel like there’s big money begging to be extracted from PC gamer wallets.

  • @ripper5941
    @ripper5941 Год назад +2

    Man love your collections

  • @songsan807
    @songsan807 Год назад

    Thanks for the video. I have two 30 inch CRT TVs that I used to play games with and a 24" CRT Monitor that I used to work from taking space and was going to get rid of them. After your video it made me not to. It felt totally different playing on a CRT TV or monitor compared to LCD and you explained it very well. Thanks.

  • @sander_yt
    @sander_yt Год назад +21

    I've been getting back into your videos lately, been watching since THE TEK and I'm excited to watch when you upload. I actually tried Deus Ex thanks to you for the first time and I really enjoyed it, especially with the mods. Keep up the good work ✌

    • @teksyndicate
      @teksyndicate  Год назад +9

      by the time I made it to Hong Kong I had realized it was my favorite game ever... things just really started to click then... glad you're liking it.

  • @jeffhampton6972
    @jeffhampton6972 Год назад

    Hi there! I just stumbled across your channel and this was really great, even after having seen a number of other videos on the topic. I really appreciate your approach acknowledging multiple viewpoints, and I greatly appreciate your mention of the DP to VGA adapter! Than answered a big question I had.

  • @RetroVillager
    @RetroVillager Год назад +4

    Thats the feeling I got early this year when I pulled back my old crt and hooked it up on modern setup just for fun. Immidietly blown away, It feels so freakin smooth, and the graphic, color seems more natural, the black level so perfect, no need for anti aliasing, no need for hires, after a long time using LCD (since 2010) and came back for CRT it feels so wrong to switch back to LCD again. Now I only use my LCD for work purpose, for gaming I use CRT all the time.

  • @porkulio
    @porkulio 8 месяцев назад

    Great video bro! Makes total sense!! Very hard work, now I understand why before everything look better!

  • @VideoGamer945
    @VideoGamer945 3 месяца назад

    great channel dude! Good info delivered in a way that doesn't suck

  • @incrediblegenki8416
    @incrediblegenki8416 Год назад +1

    i enjoyed watching this, cheers mate

  • @gnryushi
    @gnryushi Год назад +18

    I haven't used a CRT monitor since 2005 and have been using LCD monitors this whole time. But what also happened was I stopped playing FPS games because of the motion sickness I get from playing on LCD monitors. Even if they were high refresh rate monitors the pixels couldn't refresh fast enough. CRTs are superior in the motion department in every way. Even more so than OLED. When things scroll on a CRT the motion is buttery smooth. LCDs and even OLEDs still have a little ways to go.

    • @dianadodd7514
      @dianadodd7514 Год назад

      Would you mind telling me what CRT stands for

    • @mortar365
      @mortar365 Год назад +5

      ​@@dianadodd7514cathode ray tube
      Saw they didn't reply to you so I got you lol

    • @Hedgehog1039
      @Hedgehog1039 10 месяцев назад +3

      This is interesting. I played Halo a LOT until around 2009 on a HD CRT TV and when I made the switch to a mdoern screen I found myself getting more fatigued and also not performing as well... strange how it can impact things like that.

  • @ClaytonCLF
    @ClaytonCLF Год назад +17

    Your commentary about getting a Wii... Golden, right there. I discovered that marvelous little thing back in 2016, when I had only a 14" CRT in my room. Every 2D game looked wonderful on it, but it was too small, so I got a 29" CRT, and man, it was blurry. I finally got a set of component cables, and it's still amazing how good that image looks. But I missed PlayStation games, so I got a PS2 Slim, and oh boy, the PS2 is a console that looks good *only* on a CRT. Even emulating it at high resolutions can't quite give the same feel.
    About CRT PC monitors, it's been my main use since around 2016 as well. Here in Brazil, they're harder and harder to find, and I'm on my fourth one since then, but I still use it for everything, from emulators at 320x200@120Hz, or modern games a 1024x768@85Hz, or 1440x1080@60Hz. Got to play at a 1080p@165Hz VA panel, and it simply doesn't compare, fluidity *and* sharpness wise.

    • @drewmow
      @drewmow Год назад +1

      What's a good long lasting brand name CRT?

    • @ClaytonCLF
      @ClaytonCLF Год назад +1

      @@drewmow I really wouldn't know, but you could say LG lasts long enough, since all my monitors and TVs are LG branded (not out of choice, but because it's what I found in better condition). Keep in mind that all the ones I'm mentioning got daily use: the 2016 PC CRT I have is a LG FLATRON, manufactured in 2007, and was already 27.000 hours "old" when it gave up the ghost in 2020. The second LG I got wasn't flat screen, also from 2007, but lasted around 3.000 hours in my hands (it's sitting at 10.000 now), but that one had horrible burn in, leading me to believe it stayed on far too long at max brightness before I got it. The one I'm using right now is also LG, same model as the last one, but from 2004, but the materials (at least externally) seem much higher quality. The 29" TV is also LG, from around 2000, going on for almost 7 years in my hands now, never had an issue. The 14" TV my mom bought for my sister around 2004, so it's the only one we got since the very beginning, and it's as bright as ever. So, yeah, subjectively speaking, LG is a brand that lasts a long time XD.

    • @sonyx5332
      @sonyx5332 10 месяцев назад +1

      if you play close to the CRT monitor like me, 14 to 19 seems like the perfect size.

    • @ClaytonCLF
      @ClaytonCLF 10 месяцев назад

      @@sonyx5332 Yeah, my main PC monitor is still a 17" CRT. I tried hooking up my PC on the 4K 42" LCD in the living room, and I couldn't quite get used to it. But for my retro games, I really wouldn't trade my 29" for any other.

    • @stickyfox
      @stickyfox 7 месяцев назад +1

      I spent a fortune on a Japanese Game Cube component video cord back in the day, and it was worth every penny. The color green simply didn't exist without it.

  • @animeong9045
    @animeong9045 Год назад +1

    Been here since your Morrowind guide. such an underrated channel with amazing videos ❤❤❤

    • @teksyndicate
      @teksyndicate  Год назад

      RUclips has basically buried this channel under the algorithm. I might start a new one just for gaming and retro stuff... Maybe..

  • @ValkyrieYS
    @ValkyrieYS Год назад +2

    Very nice video.
    I'd love to see a one for the various filters to make it look like an crt on an oled/modern display and what you use.

  • @valentin7318
    @valentin7318 2 месяца назад

    Awesome stuff. Thanks.

  • @mustangrt8866
    @mustangrt8866 Год назад +1

    finally the channel is back

  • @dilbyjones
    @dilbyjones Год назад

    So happy to find you homie.

  • @reygamingchannel1505
    @reygamingchannel1505 Год назад +5

    I have a 85hz PC CRT (for dreamcast and all pc games) and a Sony trinitron wega 22 inch TV with component cables (PS3 for games and movies) and s video (for SNES/N64/Gamecube etc..) and a composite front input for NES/quick access and I can say is the perfect setup for a gamer/collector. I can play from any era of gaming and have the best/cheap legit experience possible! I subbed because CRT 4 life!

  • @DammitJeff
    @DammitJeff Год назад

    Swear as soon as I have enough room for it, I'm chasing down a CRT setup ASAP. They are charming in their own special way

  • @mostlyharmless0544
    @mostlyharmless0544 11 месяцев назад +1

    I hear what you are saying with the depth. When I was a kid playing in the arcade the black of the CRT was mysterious and it felt like a universe was inside there. It put wonder in me.

  • @ilyatsukanov8707
    @ilyatsukanov8707 Год назад +1

    Excellent video, great advice, and first ad ever that's been useful to me (yes, I'm a cheap bastard). Thanks a lot!

  • @Jinji11
    @Jinji11 Год назад

    This is one of the best explanations. The true missing Link in the timeline. There have been so many points in this discussion that have resonated with my experience. Thank you so much. The truth is that it is petty frustrating. So many of these modern 16/32bit style pixel video games have lost this very fact in translation. Over used sharp pixels, on everything. Those smooth stretched ovals, rounded rectangles and dots, are missing from the modern story of history. Beyond low grade artificial scan line filters. This video is a major gift to the community. I hope as many people as possible can see this so that we can have some better games in the future. Many thanks

  • @scholardeville
    @scholardeville Год назад +5

    im glad you mentioned the wii, not only does it make a great vault for retro games but also wii games themselves look awesome on crt compared to hdtv

  • @matttastrophee
    @matttastrophee 10 месяцев назад

    Fully agree! And hey, if you're buying a CRT, nothing new needs to be manufactured and something useful gets a brand new life. I also love that you got Full Throttle scene in there, such a classic game for me!

  • @mopeybloke
    @mopeybloke Год назад +14

    I so approve of Quake and Arcane Dimensions appearing so much on this channel.
    BTW a hint for that: r_particles 2. It'll draw the particles as squares like software rendered Quake. In AD, you may want to try "r_lerpmodels 2" and "r_lerpmove 2". The AD weapon models look good with higher levels of interpolation. Just have to look at the Super Nailgun go with that enabled.

    • @teksyndicate
      @teksyndicate  Год назад +4

      AD might be my favorite retro fps... I'll give those commands a try.

    • @QuakeWorldTeamFortress
      @QuakeWorldTeamFortress Год назад +2

      @@teksyndicate Quake is the best fps ever! :)

  • @RyanCoomer
    @RyanCoomer Год назад +2

    love this video!!!!!!!!

  • @The_One_Cosmos
    @The_One_Cosmos Год назад +2

    I had a smaller computer monitor crt style back in the late 80's/early 90's that I used to play my Commodore 64 on. I later hooked up NES and even VCRs to it, and to this day, no other Television or monitor before or since has looked so good as things did on that monitor. The colors were vivid and clean, the images were sharp and fluid. It went missing one day, and now, so many years later, I dont know what model or brand it was.

  • @Dronetothetop
    @Dronetothetop 8 месяцев назад

    Man.. you good. I'm subscribing now.

  • @robwebnoid5763
    @robwebnoid5763 Год назад +2

    I still have all my old CRT sets, from TV's (some with old separate VHF/UHF screw connectors), to monitors for my C-64's & also CRT CGA's & VGA's for PC's. I did have an EGA at one point (late 1980's) but that died long ago & got thrown out. Anyway, I still have at least 3 composite/SVideo monitors for vintage computer programming & gaming. One advantage of CRT monitors in my case is that I could use them for both the old lightpens/guns ... and for my old 3D shutter glasses to make 3D games look actually 3D.

  • @Peterguy2012
    @Peterguy2012 Год назад +1

    I've got my Wii hooked up to my 27" trinitron with hd retrovision component cable and raphnet adapters to play NES, SNES, Genesis with original controllers and added bonus of gameboy, GameCube, Wii all in that one console. Good to hear someone else recommending it

  • @Adam-cr8qe
    @Adam-cr8qe Год назад +3

    Great video! I agree, sadly I dont have room for an old crt tv so I hook my old consoles up to our modern tv, its crappy but the nostalgia is there. But yeah it looks way better on the original tvs and monitors. To be honest its the nostalgia factor that wins for me, the thought of going back and playing doom on our old windows 95 pc (rip) is heaven. But yeah for the ultimate retro experience always get the original stuff, or do the wii thing if thats easier

  • @GenesHand
    @GenesHand Год назад +1

    Great video a lot of videos miss or forget about PC CRT Monitors, each one has their use. And old PC games look at their best on a PC CRT Monitor.

  • @natr0n
    @natr0n Год назад

    Great video.

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 Год назад

    Dang, I haven't seen this channel recommended to me in a long long time, I think the last video I saw recommended from your channel was the "Did Apple invent anything?" video. Well it's good to see that the channel is going strong.

  • @Anon00011
    @Anon00011 Год назад +1

    Good vibe video

  • @franciscos.5839
    @franciscos.5839 Год назад +3

    I used to have 19" ViewSonic CRT in the early 2000's to game on CounterStrike and Starcraft it was the best.

  • @cameronm3284
    @cameronm3284 3 месяца назад +1

    I loved playing Doom 3 on a 21" CRT monitor back in the day

  • @masculineguy37
    @masculineguy37 5 месяцев назад +1

    What an interesting video! As a fanatic retrogamer (both arcade and consoles) i've learned a lot more about the original pixel looks. Playing now on Arcade64 and trying different settings with the HLSL option and it comes more close to to the original graphics with crt looks. But it can't beat using a real crt monitor (yet). Thanks for uploading!

  • @melvinmartinali
    @melvinmartinali Год назад +1

    I recently got my hands on a samsung 959nf for my retro build........i love that monitor everyting is so smooth on that ting.

  • @RobertKreese
    @RobertKreese Год назад

    15:44 PVM-20L2MD is exactly the PVM I have! Love it!

  • @CAVisualProductions
    @CAVisualProductions Год назад +1

    I had a nice Sony Trinitron 32 inch several years ago, and had every input you could think of. Sadly it didn't come with me when I had moved and then discovered later it no longer worked (was at my former landlady's house). But, I do have a Sony 14" BVM professional monitor with RGB input acquired from a former TV station that works great, but I have to find the right cables for my PS1, 2 and possibly Wii for it to display, as I believe this monitor syncs on green.

  • @alvar891
    @alvar891 Год назад +2

    Got a taste of it once when my lcd broke and had to use a old crt until i got a new one. Was at the time sleeping dogs came out. Was not willing to wait and played thru the whole game on it. It was a awesome experience. Even at its 1280x1024 resolution i could not believe how good it looked and the colors made the lighting feel much more natural. Ontop of that ofcourse the fluid motion. The ps2 version of san andreas is also a whole different experience on a crt tv than on a modern tv. Its the way it was meant to be displayed.

  • @szabolcscsengoi4231
    @szabolcscsengoi4231 4 месяца назад

    I have spent weeks to set up reshade filters to mimic crt tv for my Amiga emulator. When I actually set it up right... Dang! I was teenager again and memories become vivid! Day and night!

  • @HaibaneRakka
    @HaibaneRakka Год назад

    Super glad you made this video Logan! I don't even watch LTT anymore lol.

  • @micksterminator3
    @micksterminator3 Год назад

    Recently got two CRT TVs. it's been a joy revisiting older titles on various consoles. I'm not really a purist though, recently played Dreamcast on my 1080p LCD thru XBONE. Looks great cause I'm sitting far away and it's only 38".

  • @criticaledge7612
    @criticaledge7612 Месяц назад

    I picked up 3 crt monitors and a crt tv for $8 at our local version of goodwill. Best buys I've made for my retro setups. Lan play on old fps with crts r truly something.

  • @jedidethfreak
    @jedidethfreak Год назад +2

    I would LOVE a CRT again, but the size I'd want would be absolutely gargantuan depth- and weight-wise.

  • @HalGIFic
    @HalGIFic Год назад

    Thanks for the video! I'm on the hunt for a CRT now, I might try to make windows 10 look like xp on the desktop while I'm at it lol

  • @KennyGarland
    @KennyGarland Год назад

    w00t! Saw RoTT for a brief moment.. what a gem that was.

  • @TheRelen222
    @TheRelen222 Год назад +3

    I played minish cap on a CRT a while back. With that phosphor glow...it was just beautiful and natural looking. The thing is that the GBA used an LCD, which makes it even more ironic.

  • @Manettvibrante
    @Manettvibrante Год назад

    man this explains a lot : O. makes me wanna get one : l.

  • @kr00m
    @kr00m Год назад +4

    This does make me miss the Trinitron I had. However, I don’t miss having my desk three feet from the wall trying to have desk space. It was HUGE.

    • @teksyndicate
      @teksyndicate  Год назад +3

      This one was 110 lbs... But it's been a good way to track my health lol. When I first got a 27" TV a few years ago I nearly died lugging it up the stairs... But this time it felt pretty light.

  • @NicholasBrakespear
    @NicholasBrakespear Год назад +5

    I just wish some of these big companies would wake up to the potential money-maker they're sitting on here - a new generation of gaming CRTs would be a great market to tap, given how many of us would love to go back to the CRT days, but don't want to have to wade through over-priced antiques that might die any moment.

  • @ichrismoku
    @ichrismoku Год назад +3

    PS 6th gen content like the PS2 was built from the ground up with the 'natural' anti-aliasing/softening effect of CRTs in mind. Anti-aliasing wasn't practical compute-wise at the time so the designers used the curvature of CRTs and the natural soft glow of the phosphor to make up for that, for a unique effect! Really genius and so few people appreciate that.

  • @LosPrada96
    @LosPrada96 7 месяцев назад

    7:19 I was so confused when I heard the sonic special stage theme started to play lol

  • @ecco222
    @ecco222 Год назад +2

    Something no one seems to talk about is that CRT displays always have imperfections such as geometry issues, color impurities, and poor convergence. Even the professional monitors can have slightly imperfect geometry that can't be fixed no matter how many components are replaced and how much time is spent on calibration. Consumer CRT televisions commonly have some amount of all three imperfections. Games with a lot of small text can look very blurry to the point of being impossible to read if the convergence isn't right (convergence can be improved sometimes). A display with curvy geometry can be very distracting, especially with 2D scrolling games.

    • @normaalewoon6740
      @normaalewoon6740 21 день назад

      Yeah, the information on CRTs is often too optimistic and can even be misleading to some people. CRTs are nostalgic, but nowhere near perfect. The imperfections that are commonly mentioned are just the tip of the iceberg. I hope I can help some people decide from my experience with a lacie electron 22 blue iv, a high end 22 inch CRT with 130 khz of bandwidth.
      I bought a CRT for motion clarity, contrast and variable resolutions. After buying it and installing it at home, I was a bit disappointed. While it does show a lot more detail in motion than an oled, everything has a long green trail behind it. It is often visible on testufo videos. It's similar to the trailing on radar screens, but weaker. Still enough to destroy the contrast (in motion and locally) far beyond IPS panels. It looks like TAA motion trailing but way, way worse.
      The static contrast is also disappointing. Black screens are almost completely black with proper settings in the display menu, but bright spots have a lot of glow close to them (19:18) and a smaller but visible amount on the whole screen. In practice, the blacks are always grey and look more like an IPS panel with dimming zones.
      Smooth pixels can be pretty annoying as well, especially in modern games with lots of detail. Even with optimized convergence, it looks like FXAA and it quickly made me realize that 1536p on a CRT can't beat 1440p or even 1080p on fixed pixel displays. Lower horizontal scan rates (refresh rate times vertical resolution) are more crisp, but this is wasteful and still not as perfect as a simple LCD.
      I don't care too much about geometry, but even my flat screen CRT has some bending at the top and bottom. It has a small but strong widening at the top and some warping in the middle as well. Camera panning doesn't deliver continuous motion because of the last thing.
      Black crush is a real issue. Dark greys sppear black with no further action, so you need to adjust the gamma to compensate. This causes colors to lose defenition, just after you were amazed by them at first.
      TVs take a lot more benefit from the imperfections than monitors, but I don't like 60 hz because I can see the flicker directly on bright screens and further towards the periphery of vision. The 50 hz standard in my region is even worse.
      I still think it's fun to have a CRT. There is no doubt that it plays very well, even with the imperfections. The imperfections themselves are fun from time to time as well, because they look natural and nostalgic. It's a bit like analog photography compared to digital. There is just something to it that needs to be conserved, remembered and reproduced at some point.
      My CRT will have a different future than I expected when I decided to buy it. As a matter of fact, I probably overpaid for it. I rather would have picked it up cheaply 10 years ago. On the bright side, it will last me a lifetime with plenty of opportunities to play. I don't need a lot, after all.
      If motion clarity and consistency is all you care about, I recommend buying a viewsonic xg2431 for 59-100 hz or a benq zowie monitor for 100 hz or more. You can use backlight strobing, a high vertical total and the blurbusters strobe utility to get really close to the CRT experience, much more so than on an OLED with black frame insertion. If you care about contrast and colors too, you may be happier waiting for quantum dot advancements instead of desperately buying a CRT.
      For fixed refresh rates in general, I recommend using v-sync and an fps-cap at exactly the refresh rate to get rid of lag and judder due to v-sync. Make sure that you don't get framedrops at any time, even when hard decisions need to be made for that. Just lower the refresh rate, graphics settings or even the resolution (unscaled). This saves some fan loudness, electricity, wear and a lot of frustration.

  • @MarlonMikami
    @MarlonMikami Год назад +2

    Using a CRU (Custom Resolution Utility) you can force a PC CRT monitor to output 240p with retroarch. It gives you about the same quality that you would expect out of those pvm monitors. The PS2 and the Wii also look gorgeous connected to a PC CRT monitor through a component to vga converter.

    • @teksyndicate
      @teksyndicate  Год назад

      The only one I found had weird drivers that made Windows run in development mode. I'll have to check to see if there's any better now

  • @marcodifabio5979
    @marcodifabio5979 Год назад

    I don't even know what this video is all about cause i randomly found it in my feed but I had to open it and comment. You look like Danzig from the Misfits in the thumbnail.
    Have a nice day

  • @spookslam
    @spookslam Год назад +2

    You became the reason why I wanna get a crt monitör.😃

  • @sirmiluch6856
    @sirmiluch6856 Год назад +2

    I'd recommend using Raspberry Pi 4b + RGB-Pi SCART cable. It's perfect on CRT because their OS is designed for CRT TVs.

  • @luiswarm
    @luiswarm Год назад

    Nice video. CRTs FTW!. Is the Delock a particular model?

  • @bronzewand
    @bronzewand Год назад +1

    My younger brother was an avid Quake 3 CPMA player and swore by his CRT monitor until around 2010 or so when it finally died 😅

  • @dableutyef
    @dableutyef Год назад +3

    why does this feel like a re upload from 10 years ago

  • @RedEverything
    @RedEverything Год назад

    Currently hunting a CRT, can't wait to see how it compares in motion quality to my 170hz IPS.

    • @teksyndicate
      @teksyndicate  Год назад

      Night and day for me. 80 hz will look like 400hz on an ips (just guessing)... Mainly because even if the refresh rate is high, the pixel takes time to turn on and off but the phosphors on a CRT are instant.

  • @RetroMoments
    @RetroMoments Год назад +10

    CRT for the win!
    I got my first PVM, 6 months ago. It's incredible for retro games!

  • @AlL-fw2cy
    @AlL-fw2cy Год назад

    The last time I bought a CRT monitor was around 2005 when everyone else was jumping on the LCD bandwagon. I got the Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 71 and it lasted maybe 2 weeks before going dead. I went LCD and never looked back, although the smoothness of CRT is so good, especially back then vs. early LCD panels.

  • @zed1637
    @zed1637 2 месяца назад

    One of my older best friends at Wake Forest is one of 2 guys who invented the organic led. I remember having conversations with him about o-leds in 2009. Dang.

  • @girlsdrinkfeck
    @girlsdrinkfeck 9 месяцев назад

    im in UK we had a SCART to VGA cable to play console games on a PC monitor, worked pretty good

  • @klovvin
    @klovvin 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the free code

  • @zevin83
    @zevin83 Год назад

    Black Thorne was a great game thanks for the video!

  • @NightSprinter
    @NightSprinter 6 месяцев назад

    Something also about CRTs, in most cases, devs used the imperfections in composite video to blend dithered patterns. Gave the illusion of smoother gradients, more colors, or even faked transparency. Genesis games are a prime example

  • @Vader111797
    @Vader111797 Год назад +10

    I am an avid CRT user and collector. I initially got back into them because I heard that counter strike plays WAY better on one. Once I pulled my old one out I was shocked and amazed! I will absolutely never go back to anything modern. I had a nice 4k oled side by side to compare a few crts and they all honestly looked so much better than the oled. I am always buying and selling crts so I go through a decent amount, but currently have a Dell M993S and am running all my modern games on it in 1600x1200 at 100 hz. Lighting looks so much more realistic on a crt and I think it just makes anything modern really stand out. It almost looks like a shadow box to a new reality looking at a modern game through one of these. It really is an experience that I think every one should at least re try in the modern era. So many of my friends buy crt monitors once they see my pc setup in person. I had a nice 144 hz 1080p asus monitor that was used before I got back into crts, but now it is only a secondary monitor to have discord open. My crt is the only thing I will play games, watch anime or any pre 2008 content on.

    • @jasonmills1121
      @jasonmills1121 Год назад

      Hello ..have got a 32 inch panasonic..you being a collector. Do you have any idea what its worth..??

    • @teksyndicate
      @teksyndicate  Год назад +4

      I don't think most people understand this. I'm sure there will be plenty of comments just saying, "No. New things better!" Which is sad. Hopefully people will read your comment.

  • @eldontyrell4361
    @eldontyrell4361 Год назад +2

    I’ve been trying to find a CRT monitor so I can get back into PC gaming. Modern display technologies actually give me a headache and motion sickness, however I can watch a CRT TV for hours, it feels no different than looking out of a window.

  • @davidcrowder1202
    @davidcrowder1202 Год назад +1

    god bro im back and into building pc's again well obsessed really. i remember like yesterday you showing off the 9800gx2. no 4090 or rdna3 will have me hype like that card did. was still dailying a 22inch crt then as well lol. id love a 32 inch 4 3 really good one and play cyber punk on it.

  • @lazerbrainzz
    @lazerbrainzz Год назад +6

    If you are an aspiring strong man, you might consider a CRT instead of a natural stone. That way in between sets you can watch TV!!

    • @jasonmills1121
      @jasonmills1121 Год назад +1

      I Have got a 32 inch panasonic ..used to be able to pick it up..not any more ..its hard enough to push on a flat carpet..weighs a ton

    • @lazerbrainzz
      @lazerbrainzz Год назад +1

      @@jasonmills1121 lol they're comically big heavy! Ahh the good old days.

  • @miinyoo
    @miinyoo Год назад +1

    CRTs also don't polarize the light. There's a grating mask to reduce "pixel" bleed but not a polarizer. All flat screens use at least one polarizer to reduce reflections. It's not something you would consciously notice but your body does.

  • @iamimiPod
    @iamimiPod Год назад +1

    I've kept a good large CRTV for one main reason: Light gun games.
    Duck hunt just doesn't work on an LCD tv.

  • @skanlynes4789
    @skanlynes4789 Год назад +1

    The only problem with customer crt’s, is that most have horrible convergence and geometry issues, when buying in 2023. Save yourself time and money and find a crt computer monitor. The most important thing is to find the best possible crt you can. These are harder and harder to find.

  • @robertfarquhar2780
    @robertfarquhar2780 Год назад +2

    I use a 34xbr970 as a monitor for my pc, I have the geometry dialed in pretty good, colors pop and deep blacks, response time is 8ms which isn't bad at all. I owned a xbr960 with the super fine pitch tube and the difference between these 2 is negligible.

  • @classic_jam
    @classic_jam 10 месяцев назад

    My Compaq V720 runs anything from 240p to 1200p. Wonderful Monitor.

  • @mjjohansson1702
    @mjjohansson1702 Год назад +1

    Pirate LEGO is the best LEGO. Loved that when I was a kid.

  • @8dragonquest
    @8dragonquest Год назад +2

    A modded Wii on a 480P CRT is the greatest thing ever. I always watch DVD's on my HD CRT with a PS3 as my DVD player. It looks so amazing. Motion blur is my enemy and CRT's are greatest solution to solve it.

    • @dOoMnX
      @dOoMnX Месяц назад

      OK but movies already have about 21 ms of motion blur anyway because of the 180° shutter angle at 24 FPS

  • @zed1637
    @zed1637 2 месяца назад +1

    You're like almost convincing me to keep my 21" Trinitron

  • @sacamentobob
    @sacamentobob Год назад +1

    Almost always, old is gold

  • @psyar7829
    @psyar7829 Год назад

    CRT is Superior to OLED LED and CRT TVs I have to agree. I agree with what you are saying.

  • @whildhair83
    @whildhair83 Год назад +2

    Been playing Castlevania Collection (PS4) on Modern tv. Then played CV1 on NES hooked up to CRT. Had a much EASIER time beating CV1 on the CRT. My jumps and attacks are spot on.
    It just felt more natural... I guess the classic NES controller also didn't hurt.

  • @abc-ni9lp
    @abc-ni9lp 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have like 240Hz OLED and motion clarity is nowhere near CRT 60Hz, i agree with you

  • @BLKBRDD
    @BLKBRDD 6 месяцев назад +2

    The way I look at it, it’s like Vinyl records. Music that was mastered for listening on vinyl will sound best on Vinyl.
    Games that were made to be viewed on a CRT are going to look best on a CRT.
    The artists mastering matters if you want to experience it as closely as they did when they made it.

  • @advanceddarkness3
    @advanceddarkness3 Год назад +1

    I have moved enough CRT monitors and 200 pound tube televisions over the decades that scan line filters for any emulation are perfectly fine with me.

  • @dangr3957
    @dangr3957 9 месяцев назад

    I bought a hd crt and in 1080i the retro games look really warm lifelike and smooth on it through a hdmi component converter. I use it with a Xbox series X. Quake and Doom should be played like this.
    This is how I remember these from the 90’s.

  • @johnnovak1979
    @johnnovak1979 Год назад +2

    Eerie to hear my EXACT thoughts on the subject. I also "rediscovered" CRT monitors about 4 months ago... Guess what, now I have no less than SEVEN scattered around in my room. A man's gotta have a few spares, hey!

  • @retrostansolo
    @retrostansolo 9 месяцев назад

    I play a Panasonic 3DO on a crt TV. Return fire looks incredible.

  • @EastyyBlogspot
    @EastyyBlogspot Год назад +2

    used to play World of Warcraft on CRT and i remember when going to the new flat monitors thinking colours just did not pop as much, and it felt like they never have since

    • @dOoMnX
      @dOoMnX Месяц назад

      Yeah blacks were absolutely awful and DVD movies (especially DivX!) looked 10 times worse. But geometry and white brightness were so much better! Text was super sharp and you didn't have to deal with glare anymore. LCDs shined in the office. But for games and movies we certainly downgraded until OLED came up.