FIRE ALARM @ FIRESTONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- You are viewing the pull rod fire alarm being activated at Firestone Elementary School in Akron, Ohio. Instead of using horns, this system was wired to 10" Autocall single stroke bells. The code is 4-4-4-4 cadence march time which is all automated by the Autocall fire alarm control panel.
I recently had the opportunity to tour this school to historically document it. What a beautiful gem this building is inside and out. The front facade, the auditorium, and the main entrance hallway took my breathe away. The library also had a home-ec room with a fireplace which was very interesting too. So much character and beauty this place has. After over 100 years of learning; the building is in amazing condition and they do a great job up keeping the building. All those century old hardwood floors are still in great shape as well, and I made sure to compliment the custodian for his great work. I heard that they might close this school next year. If they do end up closing it, I hope they can find a new use for it. This place needs to be preserved for future generations because losing it would be a huge loss to Akron’s history, and an architectural loss because this place is truly a work of art, and you’ll never see a building like this again. These new schools will not last half as long as the old ones have, and these new schools will have zero architectural legacy as they lack any sort of character.
Thank you for your post. I agree 100%.
the loudest bell I heard was 115 decibels
I love how the acoustics made the 10" Autocall Single Stroke Bells sound like the Wheel of Fortune final spin bell
I love that manual activated vibrating horn! Sounds awesome. Wish more horns were used instead of bells
I too prefer horns over bells.
I love the sound of old ibm and autocall horns
and bells
Really any vintage fire alarm
Used to have this in Springfield Ohio highland elementary school. It had simplex horn strobe instead of this horn. Its torned down 7 yrs ago for elderly housing.
went to this school in the late 60's. always my favorite school. always loved the architecture. dont remember the fire drills but do remember the tornado drills.
Perfect place to possibly film a movie or show set in the 50s or 60s or further, don't you think?
Absolutely, this would be a perfect school to use for a movie set in the 1920's up thru the 1950's.
Interesting how they had a separate tornado alarm like that. In my area, for any non-fire emergencies, they just use the school bells.
I'm happy to see this school is still standing.
I am too. It really is a beautiful building inside and out. All done in the English Tudor style. Thank you for watching.
I was looking through some stuff about Akron, Ohio... Looks like they had a lot of old cool school buildings and most have been torn down. Does the city of Akron not have any money to keep them up or are they very forward moving and want to replace buildings as soon as they turn 50+?
BTW, there's a beautiful old school in South Portland, ME called Mahoney Middle School. It was built in the 1920s and has been kept up so well it looks brand new. Never been inside but I heard it looks good inside and out.
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Update: I did a bit of digging and they held a vote in 2011 to close that school indefinitely, and it was voted down after determining that consolidating it with the newer, larger school on the far side of the city would have been detrimental to the students, leading to oversized classes and crowding.. including needing twelve (yes twelve) portables.
Official NewAgeServerAlarm well that school is going to be closed down. I did some research and the two South Portland Maine middle schools (Mahoney and Memorial) are going to close and become a new combined school built behind Memorial. IDK what’s going to happen to the two old buildings.
This building is over 107 years old and still being used
My middle school had the coded pull stations with the same single stroke bell. Except the bells rang with the 1-1-3 coding every 5 seconds. I dont know how many times it did that since every time it went off it was due to a fire drill and that system couldnt be heard from outside. Now days that school has the EST Genesis speaker strobes with the modern box like pull stations with the wiring in plastic tubing to the pull stations and to the fire alarm speakers. And I did see one abandoned fire bell in the cafeteria. And the Baltimore City police academy has all of its original fire bells still mounted in the walls but they are all abandoned and the building now has the Simplex Tru Alert speaker strobes.
hope that I will have the opportunity to do a day tour and connect myself with a bond of my elementary schooling Firestone Liberia school system, USA
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Is it hard to pull a pull rod? I've never done that, I went to this school from 1st to 5th grade. I used to be afraid of fire alarms & school bells, I plugged my ears every time, but I'm now over my fear & now I love fire alarms & school bells. I also own a 10" Autocall Single Stroke Bell myself, I have it hooked up to a GE power support. My dogs don't mind me setting it off
Also, where was the 10" Autocall bell at 0:33 located
There were two Autocall bells on the floor that is shown in this video, one at each end of the hallway.
I know that, because I used to go here. I'm very happy they still have the old Bells here because I love Vintage Fire Alarms, my dad tells me that Modern ones work better, but I disagree & say Old ones are better
@@FrozenFan765 The old ones were definitely made better, that's for sure.
@Old School Fire Alarms Yes they were, when I went to Golden Corral yesterday, I saw some Modern alarms & was like "Yuck old ones are better. If I could replace their system, I would put in an IBM/Simplex 4030 or a 10" Autocall bell" LOL!!!!!! Thanks Old School Fire Alarms
@@FrozenFan765 No problem. Take care and best wishes. I have a new video coming out soon so stayed tuned. :)
The school looks like the inside of a house to me.
/ Cat of the sirens恥ずかしそうな猫 just a little
I'm getting a coded couch pull station and mid 60's Federal Signal model 53 fire alarm horn i'm so excited and dang that horn sounds great :)
This is how to say 10" Autocall in Spanish, "Autocall de 10 pulgadas"
I have that exact horn but mine sounds more healthy
You need to upload more videos! These old school systems are awesome!
I'm working on it. Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comments.
At my school we have bells that sound the same, and there is a pull rod in the middle of the school but it is not connected.
Imagine Code 3 On Old Alarms
There is Code 3 on old fire alarms. Watch my video, Old Cleveland School Fire Alarm. That system is over 100 years old and signals Code - 3.
Did the fire alarm panel in those days show where the alarms were triggered when they go off? I do hope false alarm wasnt as bad in the 50s as it is now days in schools. It got soo bad that my former high school installed the clear plastic pull station covers over all pull stations to cut down on false alarm.
To answer your question regarding the fire alarm control panel seen in this video, the answer is no. This panel does not show or indicate which pull station was activated.
BAD NEWS!!!!!!! This school is shutting down after the school year, I was a student at this school from 2008-2013 & I don't want this building to be demolished. If they get rid of the 10" manual trip bells, 10" Autocall single stroke bells & the panel, I'm gonna try to get them & preserve them, If that happens, I want at least the panel, 6 of the 10" Autocall single stroke bells, the one in the auditorium, the ones on the basement floor, the one from the gym/cafeteria, the one in the library, & the one of the single stroke bells on the 1st floor & the Trip Bell from the basement
The fire alarm system in this school has been requested for historical preservation and will be removed if the building is demolished. If the building is not demolished it will be sold at public auction and repurposed for some other use.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms thanks for telling me, I was told by one of my friends & from the school on Facebook that they're wanting to preserve the building, which I would love that because I was a student at this school. My girlfriend would be angry to see school get demolished as well, the High School my mom went to was sadly demolished. Tomorrow is my birthday & I'll be 21 years old
HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!@@FrozenFan765
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms thanks man!!!! You're awesome!!!!!!! I'm your biggest fan ever!!!!! The High School my mom went to was St. Cloud High School in St. Cloud, Florida & I got to see the new building when I was there, have you been to Florida?
I was in Florida many years ago but was not into old fire alarms or schools at that time.@@FrozenFan765
Was it completely unheard of to find bells and horns wired to the same control panel?
No not really. However, this is in violation of fire codes. The fire code in most states says that the signaling devices must be the same and consistent sounding throughout the entire building. You should never have horns and bells going off at the same time. It can be very confusing which one is meant for fires, tornados, class change bell, etc.
Old School Fire Alarms That makes sense. It's pretty clear that law has changed over the years...
This school likes a mesuem, defintely the right texture for a true building.
Quick question at 0:32 is Autocall still in business just being curious because I have an Autocall bell for myself so just wondering to see if the company is still in business?
The original Autocall Company, out of Shelby, Ohio, that manufactured the hardware you see in my videos is no longer in business. Recently the Autocall name is being used again by a new company, but it is not the original company in anyway.
Nice vid. That is cool. The horn was for a tornado and the fire alarm was a bell.
Was the idea behind the 4/4 cadence that you were supposed to march out at that tempo? That seems a little slow for an evacuation, but better than panicking I guess.
My elementary school (late 70s/early 80s, built in the 40s) had horns, fire alarm with a constant blast, and tornado was the same horns in an on/off pattern, constant, but maybe half the speed of the 4/4 pattern here and with no break in it.
The 4-4-4-4 Cadence Marching Code was designed to do just that. Have those in the building march out in a quiet, smooth and orderly manner. Back in the day, fire drills were to be taken very seriously, unlike what you see today.
i like those horns and bells!
It seems like different states have different fire code regulations. To me it seems like Maryland has fire code regulations preventing these type of fire alarm systems from still being used inside of buildings. I know schools that opened in the days of these kind of alarms in Maryland now days have modern fire alarm systems with the strobe lights. I know Mervo in Baltimore City appears to be from those days and now days has Simplex True Alert horn strobes with the T bar pull stations and the Baltimore City Police Academy has Simplex True Alert speaker strobes with the T bar pull stations. And Baltimore County alot of schools from the early 60s and before were retrofitted with more modern fire alarm systems. I know Potapsco High and Perry Hall high which opened in the early 60s now have the EST Integrity horn strobes. My Middle School Dumbarton now has EST Genesis speaker strobes. Then my first elementary school which opened in 77 now has EST Genesis. Not sure if they are horn strobes or chime strobes. Wouldnt surprise me if it were Chime Strobes as that building has 3 Integrity horn strobes on the exterior of the building and that building originally had Single stroke bells in march time with red fire alarm lights that light up for each bell ring. And one high school I know of in Baltimore County from the early 70s still has bells but strobes retrofitted. Then our human resources main buildings original part which opened in 72 came with Wheelock vibrating bells and was retrofitted with the Wheelock strobe plates around the bells in the early 90s when the addition was added on. And the addition has the Wheelock horn strobes.
It's cool that this school used the horn as a tornado alarm.
Try to find a school that does that nowadays!
I agree with you, these are crown jewels waiting to be found and preserved in a museum
My high school has an old fire bell.
Do you think you'll be able to revisit this system again?
It is possible. This school is still up and running.
Welp that's alarming
@@Vigilance108 *insert laugh track
That bell has a nice tone
What year & day was this video filmed?
It was in December of 2013. Not sure what day it was.
Ok, thanks, this was after I got out of Elementary. Which I was a student at this School
Why is there a horn there if it's not the main alarm? Is it to signal that there is a fire?
+Jason Louison Great question! The horn was used for Tornado drills. Thank you for watching.
What material are 10" Autocall Bells made of? One of my mom's ex boyfriends told me they were steel
They are made of high grade steel.
Thanks, Old School Fire Alarms, I had a dream about a new video on your channel last night. It was a wild dream, I was watching it in my dream ad well
So the auto call control panel didn't have trouble bells
Yes, it did have a trouble bell mounted on the outside of the metal cabinet on the left side. You can barely see it in the picture of the control panel starting at 1:33.
This is the most beautiful school yet! I hope Firestone won't meet the wrecking ballD:
Btw, the second one is/was pretty neat too, and I hear they seem to have the same starting bell, I love the sound of those bells. vs the Autocall ones. Loud, robust sounding but less shrill, imo. Does it say who made it?
That's also very cool about the tornado warning horn, it looks like an original Edwards Adapt-a-horn.
The horn is an original Edwards vibrating horn. And I too hope and pray this school is not demolished. It really is a beautiful school. Very English/Gothic looking. The 10" trip bells were made by Bevin (circa 1920's) They are brass bells that have been painted black. They painted them because they were tired of having to polish them all the time.
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Those brass bells shouldn't really have been polished to begin with. Over time, the patina would've made a nice compliment to the Gothic design of the architecture. Painting them is even worse, as it also dulls (Albeit slightly) the sound of them.
GandSAfan I agree with you 100%. I really hate it when people paint over beautiful brass bells. It just makes no sense.
As of 2023 this school is open and fully operational
Beautiful building indeed
What would the voltage be for this old system? More specifically, the bells? And is the horn at the beginning a Edwards adaptahorn?
115-120 volts, and the horn is Edwards, single projection. Thank you for watching and for your question.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms it thought the horn was a autocall
@@firealarm2903_ This particular horn is an Edwards horn. There were several different companies during that era that made many different models of fire alarm horns.
whats that black thing up next to the bell its like black ibm 4030 horn
It is an old Edwards vibrating horn.
why is it not working
@@zaiprotoneti It is working. You need to go back and watch the video again. At the very beginning you'll see me pushing a button that sounds the black horn. The horn was used for tornado drills only.
sounds crappy
I’d rather replace the alarms at my school with these bells and horns. I’d keep the detectors.
Very cool video! I have a question, What voltage do these alarms run at?
The Autocall control panels originally were built for 115 volts (circa 1950's) but they can handle 120. The bells and horns are 2.5 amps. The resistors on the panel are 100 watts and the ohms vary depending on how many bells/horns are wired to the panel. The more bells/horns you have wired to the panel, the less ohms you would need. I hope this answers your question.
Old School Fire Alarms Thank you!
Old School Fire Alarms I have an IBM single-stroke bell that has the same characteristics - 2.5 amps, .77 ohms. I'd like to set it off, but I'm not sure what voltage to use. If you use Ohm's Law, it comes out to roughly 2 volts, but somehow I don't think that would be enough!
I am only familiar with the bells/horns being hard-wired to a control panel, so I'm not really sure either. I would advise you to check with a certified electrician first. When in doubt, that's what I always do first.
Why is the horn gray instead of red?
+AwesomeFireFan The horn was used for tornado drills and not for fire drills. That is why it is not painted red.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms was it saved?
@@theray2009 This school and fire alarm system is still in operation.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms i thought it was demolished
@@theray2009 Firestone High School was demolished. This is Firestone Elementary School in Firestone Park and it is still standing and in full operation.
What model is the black horn?
It is an Edwards vibrating horn. Not sure of the model number.
Is that for sale?
It has already been sold.
Oh and this is also an old school like Idlewild and Roselle.
Is the horn at the beginning a autocall?
No, the horn you see is an Edwards horn.
What is the horn for than?
The horn is used for Tornado drills.
I am Getting a horn like that on my birthday
One thing I just thought about. Were these alarms silent from the outside or can they be heard from outside of the building? I know now days newer fire alarm systems have to be audible from outside of the building as well as from the inside. From my 4 schools I attended. My first Elementary school had the single stroke bells in march time with red fire lights that lit up at each ring. With single stroke bells on the exterior of the building. My second Elementary school with the electro mechanical horns were silent from the outside. My middle school with the 1-1-3 single stroke bell sound was also silent from outside but my high school which renovated and has the EST Integrity horn strobes has strobes by the doors that are loud enough you can hear from the exterior of the building. Now days I dont know about my second ES but my MS has EST Genesis speaker strobes some appear to be horn strobes. Especially in the stairwells by the exits. My second ES has EST Genesis inside the building with Integrity Horn strobes on the exterior. And my HS still has the same fire alarm system.
These alarms were so loud that you could hear them even if standing outside the building. Especially the horns. George Barber School is a classic example. Even though there was no horns mounted outside the building, you could still hear the fire alarm from outside the school. George Barber School had three floors, with two horns installed on each floor. One at each end of the hallways. So when the fire alarm was pulled, you had a total of six horns, plus one in the gym going off all at the same time. You couldn"t help but hear them from the outside as well. Be sure to watch the George Barber School Fire Alarm video. You'll see what I mean. It is really loud; the sound resonated all through the school building.
Old School Fire Alarms 2 horns on each floor? Im guessing fire code regulations are getting stricter as time moves on. My middle school from the 1950s had at least 5 maybe 6 single stroke bells on the second floor and from 10-15 on the first floor. And now days many buildings that size have more fire alarm indicators then that. My high school which originally opened its current building in 1949 renovated in the late 90s and it appears were the original single stroke bells were the new EST Integrity horn strobes were installed and it appears the gymnasium the horn strobes were mounted differently as there are 4 in the gym as my middle school only had 1 bell in the gym and the cafeteria. Maybe the same. Since my middle school only had 1 bell in the cafeteria. Which is still mounted on the wall despite the deactivation of the original fire alarm system. And my high school the music rooms as well as the restrooms and even the workshops in the technology education rooms have horn strobes and the class rooms have strobes. I think it was wrong they installed horn strobes in the restrooms as those things were super loud. I do wish the fire alarm installers placed just a strobe in the restrooms. And the office I currently work in has the Radionics D503S horn strobes throughout the floor and when doing renovations in the front reception area with adding new meeting rooms 5 Wheelock Exceders were installed in the area. One in the waiting room. One in the hallway from operations to the reception area. 2 in the large meeting room by the reception area and 1 in the small meeting room by the reception area.
Those fire alarms are a lot better then the new ones these days.
At 0:06 was that a spring going off the top of the pull rod?
+Braden Robison Hello Braden. Great observation! Yes, that is an extension spring fastened to the end of the pull rod on the 3rd floor of the school. All pull rods have either an extension spring fastened to the end of the rod or compression spring at the bottom of the rod that controls the pull action that gives the rod resistance.
+Old School Fire Alarms Isn't it the reason these types of alarm systems were popular back then is because most schools in the 1900's had 2 or 3 floors?
Yes that is true. But the primary reason is due to the fact, when these school were first built, electric automated fire alarm systems had not been invented yet.
+Old School Fire Alarms Oh ok.
That school looks like the one from Kindergarten Cop
That school looks beautiful. Do you know when it was built?
+SRCVintage Electronics Firestone Elementary was first constructed in 1917 and opened in 1919. Thank you for watching.
+Old School Fire Alarms Wow! Thanks for the info
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms is it demolished?
@@firealarm2903_ This school is still standing and in operation.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Did the school remain open and closed due to COVID?
That's such a nice school Was their pull stations. In the school And what kind were they
Yes, there were Autocall pull stations throughout the school.
Are you looking to remove the horns and the alarms ?
If this school is ever scheduled for demolition, yes, the entire fire alarm system will be salvaged for historical preservation.
thanks!
it is a beatiful school
but the panel is very small than the old Georges Barber elementary school's panel
but I like thoses vintages Fire alarms(I just got for free! an old Simplex panel(IDK the model number) the horns are possibely early Edwards Adaptahorn(looks like an updated version of the IBM 4030) I see thoses horns on an old schools used for fire alarm)
Only if the school gets demolished. The fire alarm components will go to a museum for historical preservation.
I hope this school won't see the wrecking ball for the fisrt and the last time
Hopefully it won't get demolished.
So what's the horn for again?
In this particular school, the horn(s) were used for tornado drills only. I just wanted to see how the horn sounded. The single stroke bells are the only audible devises that sound when the fire alarm is pulled.
Old School Fire Alarms Is that horn a simplex 4030? If not, it's really similar
I remember this
Is this building still standing?
Yes.
Demolished?
Hello Hayden....You sent me an email through my website, OLD SCHOOL FIRE ALARMS requesting the purchase of an Autocall dual projector horn. The server is indicating that the email address that you gave can not be found. You are going to have to send me another email with your correct email address.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Oh alright
Tornado siren on top?
Yes, the horn is used for tornado drills.
Hi mate how are u ok mate keep up the good work on here mate
what is the current status of this school?
This will be the last year this school will be in operation. Sadly, at the end of this school year, Firestone Park Elementary will permanently be closing its doors.
dammit, I knew this would happen eventually but it has been a good run for this old school.
What is the horn for?
The horn is used for tornado drills.
Old School Fire Alarms which is louder, the tornado horns or fire bells?
The horns are louder.
Old School Fire Alarms that makes sense.
Isn't code for for carbon monoxide ?
If you hear 4 quick chirps or beeps every 4 seconds, its a carbon monoxide signal.
why are the horns there if they don't ring?
The horns are used for tornado drills.
oh so that's why they have manual test buttons hooked to them?
Yes, that's correct.
Neat!
The trust people had to just have a button for a horn that loud. That's really all it took to sound the tornado alarm? Yeesh.
Unlike a fire, there usually is some warning and time before a tornado strikes. Giving someone in the building time to sound the alarm.
+Old School Fire Alarms I agree with you. But WAY back in the day, they never developed tornado warning systems.
That is true.
Let me guess this building met its demise by a wrecking ball
Believe it or not, this school is still standing and in operation.
Why does everyone keep saying on these videos that schools are demolished?
WOW, looks like it was a beautiful school. (Emphasis on was) What type fire alarm system did it have? I'm sure they replaced that too.
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When I was there, it had the talking Simplexes, they were brand new at the time I think, as they used to broadcast warnings over the 1940's PA boxes. But the intercom system for the PA was from the 40's or 50's, and there was abandoned fire bells in some hallways.
Here's a photo of the intercom: farm2.static.flickr.com/1420/5112237349_157272c5b8.jpg
Thank you for sharing the pictures. Yes, I have seen those intercoms often. They were very popular in the 40's up thru the early 70's.
THATS TOO DAMN LOUD
it will save your ass tho if need be!!
SPCMorton2001/PeoriaAreaEAS The bells are sparsely placed throughout the building. There were only 2 or 3 per floor. They are probably just close to one in this video.
It is not laughable but they'll save your life