How Cult Leaders Spin Criticism

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @SuddenlyHippo
    @SuddenlyHippo 11 месяцев назад +64

    M O M M Y

    • @cultytalk
      @cultytalk 11 месяцев назад +7

      😂😂😂

    • @absoluteunit4028
      @absoluteunit4028 11 месяцев назад +5

      C A L L M E S A M M Y

    • @Chris-zh1ff
      @Chris-zh1ff 11 месяцев назад

      Yuo are all part of the antichrist

    • @Chris-zh1ff
      @Chris-zh1ff 11 месяцев назад +2

      In😊

    • @Chris-zh1ff
      @Chris-zh1ff 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@absoluteunit4028hello Sam my

  • @LOH__
    @LOH__ 11 месяцев назад +168

    I was in a horrible cult of mimes once. We practiced unspeakable things.

    • @Myke_thehuman
      @Myke_thehuman 11 месяцев назад +6

      This is amazing 😂😂

    • @bettyeboop2942
      @bettyeboop2942 11 месяцев назад +5

      😂😂😂😂

    • @RonPOMO-ps9fm
      @RonPOMO-ps9fm 11 месяцев назад +4

      LOH... Never change! 😂

    • @LOH__
      @LOH__ 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@RonPOMO-ps9fm 💜

    • @SusieQ0665
      @SusieQ0665 11 месяцев назад +7

      OMG I snorted my drink onto my keyboard at this one....hahahaha!!!

  • @DarthMagog
    @DarthMagog 11 месяцев назад +57

    If i had a nickel for everytime Sam Herd said Mommy in a baby voice during a talk, I'd have two nickels. Which, isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

  • @danbaier3498
    @danbaier3498 11 месяцев назад +7

    Appreciate the "Flavor aid" reference. Nice Jonestown factoid correction.

  • @sandismith5349
    @sandismith5349 11 месяцев назад +16

    During my time being a jw. I've never been so insulted in my life. An elder would give a talk about alcohol, and he was an alcoholic and a wife abuser. So many hypocrites and tell you how to live. My husband was an abuser and I talked to an elder and they told me I would be disfellowshiped. I asked the elder why should a husband make a wife's life miserable. I moved to another state to get away. I was so relieved, and talk about freedom, I love it.

    • @barrygibbons2803
      @barrygibbons2803 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yep i would never sit in the hall and be told what to do by these sad arse loosers who cant even live by their own advise. No way would I be a JW robot controlled by these pathetic examples of how "not to be a man" or a Christian.

  • @AllFirstHand
    @AllFirstHand 10 месяцев назад +5

    There's a tendency for various groups to see any criticism as an affirmation that the belief system is true. They prepare followers with statements like "they'll mock you for your beliefs" , which seem prophetic when it happens.

  • @PeacefulCarnivore
    @PeacefulCarnivore 11 месяцев назад +21

    They are masters at recognizing “apostates” and making them look crazy, confused, and misled. Unfortunately it looks like it will only get more aggressive as they step up their offensive on “opposers”

  • @Notapimonomoe
    @Notapimonomoe 11 месяцев назад +6

    The fact that they do pick the creepiest one to deliver the info

  • @MouseQueso
    @MouseQueso 11 месяцев назад +44

    Great Video Jake. You were definitely on point for this one. Ex Mormons deal with this "deflation" issue as well. They refer to it as 'inoculation'. Often it is done about Church history issues, so that members aren't shocked when they are presented with the shocking revelations of LDS church history. A true sign of a cult is manipulative tactics like this

  • @a-hagirl9351
    @a-hagirl9351 11 месяцев назад +7

    Excellent synopsis on watchtower! Thx for all your hard work! Splane's talk on Apostasy you highlighted woke me up completely! Ty Brother Splane!😊😅😂🎉❤🙏

  • @user-vz3fh6oj7d
    @user-vz3fh6oj7d 11 месяцев назад +18

    But how is any thinking, reasonable person suppose to believe that they are "God's channel" on earth if they aren't even being inspired by him? And moreover, look how narcissistic these men are. People in the organization have died because of beliefs regarding blood, missing out on an education (which would have made their lives better), etc, but they think they don't have to apologize? Unreal.

  • @TechyBen
    @TechyBen 11 месяцев назад +33

    It's weird. As someone even more entrenched in when I was PIMI. I felt the opposite. When they brought up these problems it made it worse to me. I may have been stuck in 20+ years more than those who left young, but the GB really made me want to leave, they were the worse!

    • @TechyBen
      @TechyBen 11 месяцев назад +4

      I will add, with the exception of when I was young, because locally "obviously that's not true, that doesn't happen here..." problem of being in an enforced isolation. :(

  • @NIL0S
    @NIL0S 11 месяцев назад +18

    Yea, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and moves like a duck, then it's a cult!

  • @newfiejoe4998
    @newfiejoe4998 11 месяцев назад +12

    Dude! This video is awesome! Brilliant work.

  • @julieellis2076
    @julieellis2076 11 месяцев назад +15

    Thank you for your intelligent rebuttal. I am very thankful for your channel. Love and light ❤ xjw from the uk

  • @Aquamayne100
    @Aquamayne100 11 месяцев назад +13

    4:46 that gulp 🤣Jackson was wishing he stayed in the safety of his cult compound back in NY.
    Great job picking apart their tactics. The bois back at bethel wont like this video!

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  11 месяцев назад +10

      Lol glad people noticed that, it’s the most cartoonish deep sigh, huge gulp I’ve ever seen

  • @Sheol_Society
    @Sheol_Society 11 месяцев назад +19

    Man, your work on this video shows. Great job !!

  • @robertjames5197
    @robertjames5197 11 месяцев назад +19

    Its interesting that everything the governing body says about how bad and dangerous apostates and other religions really apply to them.. This cult has "strange teaching" and are looking for unsuspecting victims (especially those who are suffering from a sad event in their life

    • @MarioJaker
      @MarioJaker 11 месяцев назад +6

      “Every accusation is a confession”

  • @chocomilkfps1264
    @chocomilkfps1264 11 месяцев назад +7

    Ok the funniest thing about this video was that even before you said anything about it, I heard Herd (lol) say mommy and thought to myself “I feel like I have heard him say that an odd number of times” and then right as I was going to conclude that I’m overthinking it you confirm my suspicions! I haven’t followed or watched anything of JW in many years so if I remembered him saying it it’s definitely been more than twice lmao

  • @user-vz3fh6oj7d
    @user-vz3fh6oj7d 11 месяцев назад +16

    If you are telling elders to call the branch instead of the police when they learn of a case of SCA, then you are trying to take over the work of local authorities. Smh.

  • @Melchizedek11
    @Melchizedek11 11 месяцев назад +7

    Jake😮❤: thank you for your PROFOUND DETAILED Comments regarding this Murderous Cult😮

  • @3rz-rhymesreasonsandwritte437
    @3rz-rhymesreasonsandwritte437 11 месяцев назад +14

    Hey, Wow! This is such a professional video!!! Everything about it is professional. You have a great voice for narrating videos. Amazing work!!🏆🏆 and great content. 🙏

  • @bradybunch92
    @bradybunch92 11 месяцев назад +9

    I love your channel! Your wit is as superior as your voice overs. You are seriously talented sir!

  • @notyomonky
    @notyomonky 11 месяцев назад +19

    Hey man- I love it when you take these dives into a subject and expose what Watchtower inc. is doing. It’s your strong suit. It’s amazing how crazy JWs sound to me now that I’ve been out a few years. Your previous breakdown on why JW literature is so simple was an eye opener. Keep doing the Lord’s work man.

    • @49rosa-
      @49rosa- 11 месяцев назад +1

      🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🙏❤

  • @RachelVega-s2g
    @RachelVega-s2g 11 месяцев назад +13

    So well done!! Thank you for doing this, people need well articulated and researched info like this! I’m sending it to my mom, wish me luck!

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  11 месяцев назад +3

      Oh wow, JW mom I’m assuming? Good luck! You’re braver than me, I don’t send my videos to my own parents 💀

  • @KGchannel01
    @KGchannel01 11 месяцев назад +19

    "Some people believe everything they read in the newspaper" ("idiots!" He seems to say) ~It's the watchtower you should believe every word of~

  • @jennas2068
    @jennas2068 11 месяцев назад +9

    This is great. Clear and concise! Bravo!

  • @MrPrfrog4141
    @MrPrfrog4141 11 месяцев назад +6

    Brilliant presentation

  • @prenticedarlington2720
    @prenticedarlington2720 11 месяцев назад +9

    Another excellent summary of some of their naughtiness and lies.

  • @fredrussell3527
    @fredrussell3527 11 месяцев назад +7

    You did an excellent job in this video!

  • @aristotlespupil136
    @aristotlespupil136 11 месяцев назад +10

    Well reasoned piece. Well put together and some humor in there. Noice!

  • @badbadallgood
    @badbadallgood 11 месяцев назад +3

    it wasn’t until now i realized, being baptized at 10YEARS OLD fucked me REAL BAD bc i lost everyone when i left at 18😭

    • @badbadallgood
      @badbadallgood 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-jx4sc6tm6v oh 💯. til this day i’m trying to get over a lot of the things but we move x

  • @DiegoTeliz
    @DiegoTeliz 11 месяцев назад +12

    Love these type of focused and well explained videos! Keep them coming!

  • @f4rnsworth138
    @f4rnsworth138 11 месяцев назад +12

    You said Flavor Aid! Most people, including me, are too lazy to get it right. Well done Jake!

  • @mitchellskurzewski6921
    @mitchellskurzewski6921 11 месяцев назад +10

    David Splane: "some people believe everything they see on TV, do you? Should you ?
    Others: Do you believe everything you see on JW Broadcasting.....do you? Should you?

  • @bethany45101
    @bethany45101 11 месяцев назад +13

    I enjoy your videos so much! I sent this to a friend of mine who is a never jw. I’m a mom so I have kids who call me mommy obviously but that Sam turd repeat of “mommy” just made that freakin weird 😂 I’m gonna tell them bruh is fine, just call me bruh.

  • @SusieQ0665
    @SusieQ0665 11 месяцев назад +5

    THIS IS ONE OF YOUR VERY BEST!!!!!!! LMAO...ALL OF YOUR REALISM...FUNNY REALISM...LOL

  • @Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic
    @Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic 11 месяцев назад +7

    🎶Money, money , money....Money!🎵

    • @thomash.schwed3662
      @thomash.schwed3662 11 месяцев назад

      Indeed! Or: "Money, money, money, must be funny in a rich man's world. Money, money, money, always sunny in a rich man's world."

  • @emotionallyamazingjw4465
    @emotionallyamazingjw4465 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great Job on this video Jake. I forget what style you call this type of video it seems essay style in a way but it is really good.
    I really like how well you captured the idea of how the governing body “deflates” objections. I need to look into logical fallacy’s more but I was certainly impressed how you called out the fallacy’s in play that the governing body uses over and over.
    Awesome Job Jake!!

  • @tamsyngagne7001
    @tamsyngagne7001 11 месяцев назад +14

    I would love if you delved into other groups too!! Your videos are always engaging and entertaining, Jake!
    I also have to thank you and Krystina for mentioning that "Escaping Twin Flames" Netflix doc ... I watched it immediately! It was both fascinating and infuriating...

  • @spiritofMongan
    @spiritofMongan 10 месяцев назад +2

    they dont deflate criticism the DEFLECT. Big difference and easy to spot.

  • @solidsnx
    @solidsnx 11 месяцев назад +7

    If you read Hebrews 13, you'll be amazed at the context. Even just reading verse 9 all the way through, you'll realize (hopefully) that it has nothing to do with anything except the eating of the food placed on the altar. That is the strange teachings being addressed in that scripture.

  • @lprosser5841
    @lprosser5841 11 месяцев назад +7

    Well done, Jake.

  • @rubenoeschger5728
    @rubenoeschger5728 11 месяцев назад +6

    Whenever you see anything about the Watchtower, you see JW .
    You never hear or see anything or pointing to Jesus.

  • @jc6800
    @jc6800 11 месяцев назад +2

    Dude in the red shirt literally speaking facts. 🔊

  • @jaybyrd5556
    @jaybyrd5556 11 месяцев назад +6

    Excellent video

  • @fifthdimension1984
    @fifthdimension1984 11 месяцев назад +5

    I suggest to anyone if they want a glimpse of how the JW Ministry of Truth functions.... read George Orwell's "1984"

  • @gwenpytka6739
    @gwenpytka6739 11 месяцев назад +5

    Great video and great points, Jake! I'm almost half way through and cannot believe the very crafty wording of these speakers. WHY doesn't the PR department share these videos with "the media" when being interviewed by the media? And why don't they just say that JW patents WILL Deny certain life saving medical treatments to their children? And why don't they explain that their children are allowed to EAT certain fractions of blood? You will notice they indulge in crafty wording using "eating" and "accepting" as far as blood transfusion go. Such as accepting a blood FRACTION transfusion is not worded as "eating" fractions of blood. But rather, "accepting" fractions of blood AS LIFE SAVING MEDICAL TREATMENT.

    • @Geohovahs_Hand
      @Geohovahs_Hand 11 месяцев назад

      Hell a lot of JW babies are breast fed and there's a shit ton of white blood cells in breast milk, especially the first milk, or colostrum. I guess Jehovah, Jesus and the GB weren't really thinking things through there.

  • @the_luggage
    @the_luggage 11 месяцев назад +4

    I'd like to see you explain the numerology past of JWs, thanks!

  • @StefWokeUp
    @StefWokeUp 11 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you. This was great.

  • @linzrojo
    @linzrojo 11 месяцев назад +3

    This was such a good video!

  • @jackijax505
    @jackijax505 11 месяцев назад +4

    Excellent video!!!

  • @XYGamingRemedyG
    @XYGamingRemedyG 11 месяцев назад +3

    "I did not insert that laughter"
    oh man. I wanna "comedcize" gruesome stories from the Bible to see if I can deliver it dryly enough to elicit genuine laughter. (from the congregation of my church)

  • @rubenoeschger5728
    @rubenoeschger5728 11 месяцев назад +5

    Even that background audience's laughter sounds fake !

  • @ExJwMJ
    @ExJwMJ 3 месяца назад

    18:25 scared the shit out of me. I’m grocery shopping with AirPods on full blast… Thought I knocked down the whole aisle. How dare you 😅

  • @srmatato
    @srmatato 11 месяцев назад +2

    At 14:15 that's exactly what I heard when I first heard that segment on one of Wally's videos. I knew I couldn't be the only one!

  • @Felizhja
    @Felizhja 9 месяцев назад

    Never baptized, but grew up in this organization. Asking questions where frowned upon, and especially criticism to scriptures. This is a problem all over the world with JW, and yeah my child mind trough youth was in absolute shambles. Thanks for this video.

  • @SusieQ0665
    @SusieQ0665 11 месяцев назад +3

    OMG, this is killing me. LMAO "SCRIPTURE SHAMMY" indeed... Lolol

  • @machavelli777
    @machavelli777 11 месяцев назад +6

    great video. yes even Pauls cult aka Christianity. I think a good study you could do is compare the 100 years of Jehovah witness rewriting their history and covering the movement up with how the church fathers rewrote history and covered up the jewish jesus to make it fit for them...early christianity rewriting history and JWs doing the same thing in real time.

  • @ashleyj97
    @ashleyj97 Месяц назад

    The fact David Splaine said "actually, neither side probably wants the whole truth coming out in court" is a deeply alarming statement

  • @fadetoexadam182
    @fadetoexadam182 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video.

  • @96t5wagon
    @96t5wagon 11 месяцев назад +4

    Great video

  • @philip4790
    @philip4790 11 месяцев назад +3

    Jake, thanks so much for all the effort you put into these videos. As an exjdub I really appreciate it. Ps thanks for the extra drop of mother’s milk😂😋🤤

  • @robynbass9636
    @robynbass9636 11 месяцев назад +3

    ✔ Very good Jake.

  • @Liz-ul5iq
    @Liz-ul5iq 11 месяцев назад +8

    There was an old elder without the best diction whose favorite phrase was "guidance and direction." He said it a lot during long prayers, "Jesus, we need your guidance and erection" 😂

    • @yenbbc8840
      @yenbbc8840 11 месяцев назад

      resurrection. erection. to rise up. an obvious semantics issue!

    • @Geohovahs_Hand
      @Geohovahs_Hand 11 месяцев назад

      Jesus gave up his erection for our sins.

  • @manueltraverso4528
    @manueltraverso4528 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent presentation

  • @j.antonio2819
    @j.antonio2819 11 месяцев назад +1

    Powerful Video! Love it. ❤️

  • @mightbephil
    @mightbephil 11 месяцев назад +7

    Crazy how they want it both ways. The uninspired and infallible voice of Jesus makes zero sense. Also A1 edits: “Mommy… call me Sammie” 😂

  • @TallKulWmn1
    @TallKulWmn1 9 месяцев назад

    Well Done! Thank you for sharing 🫶

  • @3rz-rhymesreasonsandwritte437
    @3rz-rhymesreasonsandwritte437 11 месяцев назад +3

    To answer your question at the end, personally I want you to stick with "where the need is great" for pimo and pimi JWs and exjws, ❤ however if you are getting bored 🙄 or wanting to explore others 🧐🤔🙀 , ultimately it's your decision in the end. No one can ever dictate to you anymore now that you have escaped the JW cult. But remember, without further formal education, 📚👨‍🎓your expertise is your lived experience within the JW cult and that's why you are able to speak with such conviction. Without further secular education, wide awake exjws make great courageous apostates for their own former religious cult. Other cults have their own apostates to go on YT. Suggestions and my opinions only 😊❤

  • @benjaminfalzon4622
    @benjaminfalzon4622 11 месяцев назад +1

    For once I agree with Stephen Lett when he talked about those "STRANGE TEACHINGS"😂

  • @manueltraverso4528
    @manueltraverso4528 11 месяцев назад +3

    I can use this video when they come to my door

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  11 месяцев назад +4

      Lol yes! If they’re going to show you a video, it’s only fair you get to share one

    • @manueltraverso4528
      @manueltraverso4528 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@altworldly that’s my exact sentiment as a former jw I know how to slip it in while using my own jw org lol

  • @jaydubboredcasting6708
    @jaydubboredcasting6708 11 месяцев назад +1

    Deflate by trying to take the air out of the argument. Also by talking a lot of hot air - verbal farting, another form of deflating.

  • @BruceLeon83
    @BruceLeon83 11 месяцев назад +3

    You gotta put a Trigger warning on these topics, Jake.😆 Me, though, I'm just creeped out every time I see and hear the GGS, Geezer God Squad. 😅 haha.

  • @finnguy9096
    @finnguy9096 11 месяцев назад +2

    In these discussions the GB often makes two contradictory statements: 1. Those who are misled by negative news don't know all the facts & 2. Even the most spiritual, devoted, witnesses are not immune to apostate misinformation, aka those who know "all the facts".
    Now why would those who know the ins and outs of the organization and have devoted their lifes to serving God need to worry about claims that are completely false and misleading?

  • @JMadeline
    @JMadeline 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @francinemirey1555
    @francinemirey1555 11 месяцев назад +3

    Disturbing 😮 😳 , well presented Jake ( I hope I get your name right 😊)

  • @Mercury688
    @Mercury688 11 месяцев назад +2

    Steven lett has the best meme faces ever

  • @Mercutiossword
    @Mercutiossword 11 месяцев назад +4

    BIBLEY

  • @larchwood20
    @larchwood20 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great stuff!

  • @micheleharris3305
    @micheleharris3305 10 месяцев назад +2

    Doesn't it irritate you into your bones how these adult men talk. Each and every one talks as though they're speaking to little children. These are adult men dor goodness sake but they pull faces and talk in their mono-tone telling child like stories. Then - how can anybody with a mind not see the heresy?

  • @cultytalk
    @cultytalk 11 месяцев назад +2

    The Voice of Jesus MAKES MISTAKES & CAN ERR IN DOCTRINAL MATTERS 😂😂😂 Good stuff

  • @AnimaOrphei
    @AnimaOrphei 11 месяцев назад +5

    So in the beginning of the video you show a clip of Bro. let and he reads the scripture in Hebrews that refers to strange teachings. Then he defines this as the teaching of strangers. I forget the name of the fallacy (because the caffeine is obviously on strike today but I want to say false equivocation..?) but this is also self defeating. If say a JW goes out into the field or sits at their cart and speaks to a stranger then they themselves are in fact giving the same “teachings of a stranger”. That is to say nothing to the fact that “strange teachings” is not defined as “teachings of a stranger”. A stranger can say something perfectly normal and a close friend can say something strange. -but the use of the root word strange is pernicious here.

  • @rubicktdo89
    @rubicktdo89 11 месяцев назад

    Truth is stranger than fiction

  • @jamessweeney2817
    @jamessweeney2817 2 месяца назад

    Here you go algorithm. Some engagement

  • @specter2k
    @specter2k 11 месяцев назад +2

    All these mfers are always blinged out and dripping in those suits and pimp rings. I would pimo for that cute blonde in a bunch of the videos 😂

  • @arielalvarez24
    @arielalvarez24 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

  • @jordancannady9242
    @jordancannady9242 11 месяцев назад +4

    Jesus can make mistakes. He predicted he would come back and destroy the people who killed him but he never did.😂😂

  • @kevinwhitakermusic3960
    @kevinwhitakermusic3960 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wow this is good

  • @tonymlealv
    @tonymlealv 2 дня назад

    Everyone always goes back to their core beliefs. .
    I always wonder why is that..

  • @TallKulWmn1
    @TallKulWmn1 9 месяцев назад +2

    12:22 “skillful use of the scriptures” or cherry picking to fit the agenda 🤷‍♀️

  • @ciscokidfab7595
    @ciscokidfab7595 11 месяцев назад +2

    Yum, scull meat!🧟‍♂

  • @cultytalk
    @cultytalk 11 месяцев назад +4

    👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

  • @bkjones79
    @bkjones79 11 месяцев назад

    Would you want a president who is charged and investigated to lead your way of life?

  • @Zekrom569
    @Zekrom569 2 месяца назад

    Mommy mommy help me out of this cult

  • @YamosDad
    @YamosDad 11 месяцев назад

    Woke up last week. 35 years of my life wasted by this religion

  • @tonijoncevski8607
    @tonijoncevski8607 11 месяцев назад

    What is a “Governing Body Helper?”

  • @misterauctor7353
    @misterauctor7353 9 месяцев назад

    3:10 Strawman, Stephengate.

  • @arlittleredfox7671
    @arlittleredfox7671 11 месяцев назад +1

    Jesus himself worked on the Sabbath, which, doing that, was punishable by death. What saved him?
    Pikuach Nephesh.
    Life over-rules law.
    Ambulances don't stop for red lights because ... life before law.
    Blood can save a life, so taking blood, using Pikuach Nephesh, puts the law on hold for a short time. But isn't it a sin? Even so, it could be forgiven.

    • @CoffeeAddictEvan
      @CoffeeAddictEvan 10 месяцев назад

      If a doctor said to his patient "abstain from alcohol," does that mean the patient can't use alcohol in a medical context, perhaps to sanitize a wound, and thus save his life?

  • @Adventures2024-AD
    @Adventures2024-AD 11 месяцев назад

    I haven’t visited your channel in over 2 years. Quite frankly I found you annoying! But man have you improved! Excellent work! Thank you 😊