ZOO - The Movie (Part 7)
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Part 7 of the movie "ZOO." Released in 2007 and directed by Robert Devor, it is a documentary on the life and death of Kenneth Pinyan ("Mr. Hands"), who was killed in an accident involving sexual activity with horses. The movie also examines the lives of others who knew him, and participated in similar acts, along with the subject of zoosexuality as a whole.
Well, that was interesting. Disgusting, for sure, but compelling nonetheless. Main complaint with this doc is that it danced around the point so much that it was difficult to understand what even was happening. Honestly, there really isn't a point in trying to make a movie about beastiality family friendly. Those who do not wish to hear the hard truth about this story probably won't watch it anyways. This just left too much to the imagination and I'm now a little confused.
Thank you for putting it so succinctly Rachel - exactly what I was thinking and feeling. Don't need it graphic detail but nothing was actually mentioned. Bizarrely filmed. Doens't go very far in trying to "help" anyone understand where this comes from.
Apparently, it has been on the rise in Europe in recent years as times have got harder, less jobs (= less money to pay people for kinky s_x...) etc so this is what humans resort to?? I don;t think so. And I also don;t think it relates to not wanting to / getting hurt in human relationships....this is on a whole other sick level. I don;t think any amount of lack of parenting can contribute to this, IMO...
i felt the same way
This documentary is so beat around the bush and dark I didn't even get what they were talking about most of the time.
I got it NOW, omg.
lol..ikr
After watching this interesting but very disturbing documentary , I feel compelled to write a poem. " Mr Hands, were you stoned, you turned your back ,and you got boned, everyone says your a sinner, but I just hope, the Horse bought you dinner." Thank you.
Dear Rim Shot, I am sure you got rim shot after that boooring "poem".
This documentary was terrible. It did not explain who anyone was or what was going on. The chronology was confused too. It took me 40 mins to work out the doc was about a single incident.
omg yes!!!
This doc. could have been so good. Terrible writing, terribly slow, and confusing!
Did they interview an actor about being cast in the film?
Guys: An animal cannot consent. It doesn't have the intellectual ability to willingly consent to sex. Every animal that appears to be consenting is just following it's instincts. The horse didn't want to have sex with the man for pleasure. Horses can't have sex like that. The horse was following its natural instincts, and didn't know the reality of the situation. He very likely was forced to do this as well. Sexual relations with an animal is abuse, no matter what the species.
As for the horse being castrated, it's all a matter of keeping him safe. It's not like he really needed his testicles to survive. They removed the hormone glands that make him want to follow his sexual instinct, they didn't take away his entire penis! They made a very smart move in making sure the horse was safe from anymore zoophiles who could adopt him and sexually abuse him.
+BalloonFrog well then cut off every childs penis/ vagina that has been abused aswell. I agreed with your 1st comment but not the bs at the end
+Stephen McLaughlin
Ridiculous statement, and does not lend any credibility to your concerns.
The fact of the matter is that removing the hormonal influences on the animal's behavior were a move toward reducing risk for both the horse AND other people. In reality: stallions CAN BE (and often ARE) dangerous animals both to humans and other horses. The animal had been taught behaviors as well...and the hormonal influence on those behaviors presented cumulative risks. The horse was a beautiful animal, and had not been castrated previously....possibly to preserve him for breeding purposes. (most male horses that are not going to be used for breeding are castrated to avoid behavior problems around other horses, and safety of the herd/humans...the fact that he had NOT already been castrated seemed to indicate he may have had potential for breeding....no owner is going to castrate a potentially valuable breeding stud horse if they don't have significant reasons to do so. There were also liability issues to consider should the horse have remained intact, and been involved in a subsequent injury to someone or another animal). I am sure that none of the decisions regarding this horse following "the incident" were taken lightly....and that on balance the owners felt that the castration was the best route to take. ~ RED ☮♥♫
+BalloonFrog
Totally agree with you. Thank you for your balanced and well-considered comment. ~ RED ☮♥♫
Their solution is to castrate the horse???? After saying that the horse was a victim of abuse??? Dumb
So glad that the horse could give consent to become castrated for their symbolic victory.
LOL, what a twisted irony
A really creepy atmosphere throughout this documentary
A very good documentary indeed!
i can't believe they castrated the horse at the end. I mean, who are they getting back at here ?
This documentary is all over the freakin' place! If the topic weren't so awkward & intriguing, I never would have made it to the end. Bronies? Wtf?
Is it me or do the makers of this documentary seem to be biased towards the sick, twisted, perverted men this documentary is about? Please say it ain't so!
As a true animal lover, I find this very disturbing. The rational behind this sick behavior parallels that of child molesters. What really gets to me is the so-called "animal advocate," at the end of the documentary almost justifying the behavior of these absolutely disgusting individuals.
Hermie Boy there's a huge difference between loving an animal and using an animal to fulfill your sexual fantasies. Sick.
Interesting documentary. I felt as though it kept dragging on, but is was still interesting.
For the entire film they kept playing a recurring theme from Holst's "Neptune." Such a shame they didn't choose thematic elements from "Uranus" instead. I mean think about it, who dropped the ball on that one? Talk about a lost opportunity.
8 years later i hereby grant you ONE LIKE
whats with the sad music? what a disgusting thing to do to an animal! "loved" their animals too much? no, screwed with nature too much. people are messed up....
this documentary coulda been so much fascinating, taking the subject into consideration, but noup. It was pretty boring.
Um...yeah..cuz all you wanted to see was...BLAH...BARF...horse on man action....you gross molestor
not really. What they do is OK but it drags the narrative instead of making it a bit more dynamic.
daisy bonnet lol "um..." maybe that's a huge ass assumption to make based on someone calling this boring documentary boring. Insults sound super serious coming from a daisy bonnet, btw.
well, that was gross
Then they castrate the horse to "save" it.. what??
+shmeebegek1 Exactly, why bother? If men want to die getting buggered by a horse, so be it. They're just perverts.
Artistic spin on perverts.
Watched this entire boring and gross documentary because of Shane Dawson's new podcast video lol. I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight
honestly me girl lol that is the only reason I watched this
Me too lmaoo
people still watch Shane Dawson.. .wow.. I'd rather watch a horse rape a guy. Way better!
So sad...a loss of life and a corruption of innocent creatures who were trained to do this deed.
"let's go pester the animals"- sure sounds loving
While not being “Zoo” personally makes this a disturbing does not mean we should label it disgusting and be done with the topic altogether. It is extremely interesting and brings up questions about the depths of human sexuality we have not explored previously. Like it or not this is happening and will continue happening until we have an open and honest look at the practice and the psychological makeup of the participants.
Even if it is a sexuality, it usually hurts or fucks up the animal's psychology and it's not ok to hurt someone else because of your own needs. it's like having rape or childmolesting as your favourite sexact. It's just not accepted!
I watched the entire video and I just want to say that I did not like the way the perpetrators of this crime are being made to look like innocent victims of this man's perversions. The reality is that the owner of the farm should be held responsible for murder. If a drug dealer's drugs kill the drug addict at the drug dealer's house what happens to the drug dealer? Exactly...it is an open and shut case. If he had not provided this atmosphere and facility for this man it would not of happened.
I can't believe I saw this I feel sick to my stomach
She said it pretty directly. She didn't want anyone showing up and trying to do that again.
e_o I suspect half the dislikes toward this video series was due to the documentary style/narrative than the subject itself.
This documentary was hard to follow along when the timelines randomly ventured all over the place and certain segments went on tangent subjects while some scenes were filled with so much shadow it was hard to make out who was talking. ;-; This could've been an insightful documentary into the world of zoo and why these people did what they did. Instead, we're distracted by poor creative license and an epic soundtrack that belongs in a space-opera mystery movie.
That aside... thanks for the video upload. Danger Dolan sent me here. :) Now to check out the other crazy documentaries on his list.
@BastetSachmet I think it's ok to judge these people in this movie. What they are doing is messed up. They are putting their lives at risk and I agree, it is also abuse.
Horribly fascinating
The pace of this was pathetic, it's an interesting story & a good listen, but the way they did it would've worked way better to scrap the documentary film side & just turn it into an AudioBook of sorts. That's basically how i got through it, after part 3 or 4 i just played it & listened to it not even bothering about watching the video portion.
People who do this type of thing are sick in the head, I know stuff like this has gone on forever, but that doesn't mean it is acceptable behavior. There are all kind of disgusting atrocities committed by sickos on a daily basis around this world, all I have to say to that is your day is coming!!!
Completely agree!!!
Quite bizarre, then on top of that the slide telling us a man has been prosecuted under new laws because the wife photographed him having his way with the family dog. There is a whole other world out there, yes there sure is...
It's unfair, they never interviewed the horse.
I mate with my mare, some of you say im a "rapist" (which is absurd how does a 145 lb man rape a half ton animal with out tying her down, which I never do)... 2:00, oh yeah... I'M the rapist! filthy humans "this horse had sex with a human what we do? drug him, neuter him, sell him" the don't care for animals! to them he is a piece of meat the "saved". prideful slugs, that (2:00) is why I so dislike humans... vos factum mea quod sum, translate that....
Yea but she's probably tied up or contained in a stall of some kind. And not allowed to go where she wants. Horses won't just come up wanting to have sex. They don't care about material things, self pleasuring, and being unsympathetic and unempathetic. As a matter of fact God used horses in my life to heal from sexual problems so that I end up choosing abstinence along with many other things I've been healed from. I'm not judging you at all man, I assume things have happened to you that make you do the things you do. I've done stuff that I can say to this day I'm not happy about but God's power of salvation cured me. I know you hate people I was the same until Jesus blessed me with human friends I wouldn't trade for the world they are such a blessing the healing I experience being around them is just as strong as after I have spent time around horses. Sex isn't love, connecting with others by empathy, sympathy, nurturing, and altruism and humility is love. Sex is just procreation so that man and wife can have the wonderful blessing of raising kids who give refreshment and legacy and peace as well as play in a harsh world.
Hi bud I wasn't sure if you were talking to me or the person I commented on?
maybe you were a horse in a past life... personally I don't even believe you. If you are telling the truth, i think it's just so disgusting, it makes my stomach turn that you would even try that, What's to stop you from murder or molesting children then? I dislike humans too sometimes but it doesn't mean i'll bang a horse lol like what is your thought process here, I think the internet is to blame why do I have to see posts like this why!!
I'm gonna report your ass to authorities
willydeezle I never get why people think it is gross. ...You must not like the sex aspect of it? It is a sexuality which deviates from the norm but what is the "gross" part?
I wonder what the horse "thought" of the situation.
If you sat and watched through all parts then you must have an exciting life.
@sentstuff05 They weren't punishing the horse by gelding, they gelded him so that someone else who liked to do these things wouldn't show up and try to adopt him. I'm not sure, but I think you would have to train a horse to do that, so if someone was into that stuff, a horse that was already trained to do it would be perfect. They gelded him for his own safety, more or less. Quite honestly, I would have castrated the men, and that would have been for punishment.
It is insane when you have to geld your horse so some crazy fucker won't come along and give horse back riding a whole new meaning. Humans can be really screwed up!
I really hate the way this documentary was directed. It seems as if because the topic is pretty strong they tried making it all dark and sad. It really isn't. In fact is hard understanding if the director even intended to send out a message or prove something.
Did you see the epilogue? A man was prosecuted for raping the family dog so this law is better late than never, poor animals x
This was in 2005, when My Little Pony was still considered a dumb, cutsey cartoon/toy for little girls!
it was code
I hope you are trolling. This is not about 'not hetero so it's wrong', because this is a lot closer to pedophilia than being gay, bi, or straight. Adult humans in a sexual relationship are most often able to say no, they are on move equal footing, and they have the same understanding of the relationship. Animals in a situation like this do not have the same understandings and expectations, they can't say no, and if they defend themselves they will most likely be put down. This is victimization.
Its not about being close minded.
I can make the same argument FOR pedophiles.
It dosen't mean it is ok to do.
These people are mentaly ill. They hate to admit it.
like "what kind of intolerant world do we live in" is flat out ignorant. It's obviously taboo (in nearly every culture, save some indigenous ones), and you could make the same arguments for incest. "It doesn't harm anyone" (as long as it's consensual), "people just don't understand", etc. And yeah, you could argue the relativity of anything. But when it comes down to it, you're consciously crossing a line most people have intrinsically in them. Perhaps it's zoophiles who don't understand.
ok what I dont get is how they found all this out, Mr hands gets dumped at the hospital anonymously, do the doctors just just go "this guys obviously been fucked to death by a horse" ?
It's the law. Simple as that. Laws exist to do four things: they protect rights; they protect people and property; they establish a sense of order, and finally, they reflect society's morals.
Now, one could argue that their rights are being infringed, but all laws limit rights in some way. It protects people and property, as zoophilia can be dangerous. Fucking animals isn't good for an orderly society, and it doesn't fit society's current morals.
Before this, zoophilia wasn't a legal problem.
can't believe that dog is doing it just because he naturally want it by himself and isn't forced... ask anyone if thier dog does it or ever intent to do so.
Amazing film. Thanks for uploading.
Not half bad. I was only expecting to watch a portion but the way the information is strewn all over the place pulled me through to the last scene and I don't regret it if only for that woman's opinion before the end there. Loved every shot of our beautiful state, too. Gonna have to hit rural WA up some time.
They castrated the horse? I didn't know that... it's ironic how the people trying to protect the animals are the ones who end up maiming them.
just such a sad strange story...
Shane's podcast brought me here...😩
However, i think that the most important achievement of this film is showing how society reacts towards people who is different like those people who are obviously sick and need help and not the public judgement, the same happens with other people like gay people, obviously they are not sick but they receive a treat like this just for being different. Human nature is the most weird thing. Fantastic cinematography, great music and shots by the way.
@sentstuff05 Agreed.
The horse should not be punished.
@kdreamland Dude, I've seen that before! "Married t o the Eiffel Tower." So hilarious, what the hell? That one lady and that amusement ride? "You KNOW what I'm thinking... I want your fluids, I want your fluids, I want your fluids." WTF!!!
this has been going on since time began... and I saw the video, the horse seemed to be a willing participant.
Good Bye horses, I'm crying over youuu!! lol
why was the horse punished??? why is it they will castrate a horse cause of some idiot but not child molesters??
So the horse has been abused and he's castrated because...?
nicola jackson I know.... that was messed up
They didn’t really explain it, but I believe the rationale was that they were afraid the horse would believe sex with humans was a normal interaction, and that could potentially be very dangerous. Could you imagine if a horny stallion decided to make you his mare? Can’t really fight him off, can you?
this will bother me for the rest of the week
Most surprising part- didn't take place in a southern state!
Not someone who follows the crowd, for sure..I think its evil tp do this..Its essentially rape.
So who filmed the incident? or did he film it himself? Or is this a different incident than the one guy one horse video?
sorry but this is just wrong. I get the feeling that the documentary is trying to portray these individuals involved in this case like they were just normal people. They hung out as friends, went to dinner together, had their drinking parties and there was the horse fucking..which made it seem like it was no big deal. Sorry but it is a big deal. The "Happy Horseman" or w.e his name was, at some point says that it wasn't all about sex...hmm now thats a bit interesting because if it wasn't-
Cant say "a little horse play never killed anyone"
I assume the sarcasm was positively detected
If those people are mentally ill, why the Law says that they have to be 10 years in a prison? Will not be better if we send them to a Mental Institution?
Hopefully this comment becomes top rated because I want to tell everyone who watched this video something very important:
Don't read any further comments.
Whether you agree or disagree with the video, everything hereafter is the epitome of the stereotypical RUclips comment.
No animal can consent to sex, you're just taking advantage of them. Why don't you be a little more open minded to dating the many different types of humans in the world and leave the animals alone. There's a reason why so many frown upon it, because it's morally wrong. Animals are for companionship, not for your own amusement. I don't care whether you think you love the animal that way, it shouldn't have to give back joy to you in that way. Seek help.
Glad I'm not the only one who sees them cutting off the horse's penis as WAY WORSE than the guy having sex with the horse!!! I'm not saying that sex with a horse is ok, but come on! Of course he consented! Lmao. And castrating the horse was just wrong.
+Jennifer Nocera
The penis is not removed in castration. Castration removes the testicles...thus eradicating hormonal influences on animal behavior.
sick human beings.
Well I don't think there is a lot to be understood.
These people are clearly mentally ill, and state such by saying "I love animals" yet they are not vegetarian.
They are predators in search of victims who are unable to speak.
The whole surgery room and everything for castrating the hose was overkill, you usually just do it in a paddock quick needle to knock him out cut him and you're done, would if cost them a fortune
The poor horse was castrated for no reason. The horse was innocent.
dont more activities
Well, that story was very poorly told.
continued...
why were these men gathering in groups, FILMING these acts and keeping an extensive collection of these movies. I saw the infamous tape along with my friend who told me about this documentary.. and the way they produced their movies..with titles like "deep thrusts" and they way they had aliases they went by. it seems to me that thsi was all about SEX. Idk I'm honestly trying to understand it, but really cant.
Well I've seen the Horse Whisperer and now the Horse Fucker, Thank you RUclips!
Why castrate the horse, the victim. I have never lusted after horses. Horses were pets to love, ride and feed apples. Horses, nor any other pets, are not sexual partners.
+jellyfishattack True, but at least the horse will settle down from his hormones and be more docile. As for the guy, he should've been castrated.
@lasgo91 I agree with you 100%. I think this movie shows a lot about propaganda and how you can make anything sick and twisted look "normal" and "loving". What a bunch of crap. If they truly "loved" the horse like it was their wife or something, then why were they having drunken parties where they all shared the horse. Would someone who loves someone do that?
"Ethologists studies on animal mating rituals shows that they can and do consent to sex" -Yeah can consent to the other animal which it can communicate with.
"Yea, so what?" -So you're saying you don't care whether the animal could consent or not?
"Would you ask a gay to be more open minded to dating the many different types of women in the world and leave other gays alone?"-Why would I care about 2 consenting adult humans having sex with eachother? It is completely different.
Disturbing and fascinating. Beautifully made documentary btw.
it's ridiculous how some people worry about the horse consenting or not, when they probably never worry about the millions of animals we torture and kill every day for all kinds of fucked up reasons. go vegan/vegetarian or shut the hell up about animal cruelty.
that being said, i'm not quite sure what to think about the whole consenting issue, wich is key here. what does consent really mean in an animal? just because the horse doesn't kick you in the face, doesn't mean it wants to get fucked.
First of all this documentary was boring as hell. They attempted to portray this in a tasteful way with the light music, the soft spoken voices, the dark atmosphere.......FAIL. You just can't get past the nastiness of it.
Ya know this probably goes on daily in this country... This is a private thing, the poor guy died, for god sake. Interesting... Shocking... Thank you.
Ah yes, this makes more sense now.
Thanks :)
Was the guy who owned the horses get banned from keeping animals?
Like...I know this isn't the point but the mechanics of the incident are mind-boggling to me. I'm not about to Google it but what position would...how would that even...how? And was it his first time? It didn't sound like it but how could doing this not be fatal?
S. Arden Barlow the horses dick ripped and destroyed his insides!
I am now more confused than prior to watching this and the misanthropy inside is stronger than ever.
good documentary and thanks uploader but WTF HUAMANs!
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How this documentary could bore me so much when the topic is quite fascinating as well as disturbing is quite an accomplishment on the directors part. Do these people ever think of the dangers they put themselves in, and others, as well as the animals quite possibly? Selfish, sexual deviants.
doesn anyone knows about the o.s.t.?
Chill brother, I didn't say it was MY mentality, It's HER mentality. I understand your rage, but don't take it out on me.
Well, I liked it. I found it interesting, yet at the same time, weird, because of A. how they honestly appeared incapable of realizing what they were doing was wrong, it reminded me of an animal hoarder and really just made me sad, and B. er... I don't think the horse sex video was needed, even though it was blurred, I still found the sounds disturbing and just wrong. But besides that, it really honestly shows how different their brain works.
precisely!!! my pity on the horse not to the person...
the fuck did I just watch and why?
"hurting animals is wrong so we're going to hurt this animal even more just because"
This whole doc was kinda crazy!
There's nothing open minded about having sex with dogs.
@ItsWolfeh (continued) Lastly, as for the video itself, I'm not an expert in the field but the video itself was shot amazingly well. However, it appeared to me to just be random video clips, it didn't coincide with the interview (that or was symbolic I guess?) So I found it rather confusing. As someone else also said, you can't tell who the heck is speaking and I found that very annoying, so I tried to just focus on what they were trying to say.