In my experience near-boiling water will remove points and pins easily and without damage. I just make a cup of hot water and soak the arrow tips for 30 seconds and they come right out.
As a heating device I use a so-called 'Storm/Jet Cigarette lighter' or a 'Creme Brullee burner' both are very portable, can be filled from a normal lighter gas filler, and can be taken with you to tournaments.
I had a problem with my pins coming lose, even when glued in with a generous amount of glue. I looked around and found a tip. It was suggested that you drape a plastic bag (the kind you get at the grocery story), over the pin and then push the shaft VERY SLOWLY down onto the shank of the pin. You then pull the arrow from the plastic, cleaning up the excess. I've never had one come lose. I also wrap a layer of plumbers tape over the pin so the nocks will stay in place. Again, never lost one using this method.
Sjef vd Berg holds the arrow in his armpit so he can easily grab it when he's gluing in hit components. Found that easy to do and saves you from having to look away from the flame to pick up the arrow. Nice video as always, thanks!
Hey Jake, perfect timing, just about to build my own arrows for the first time in the next couple of weeks. Loving the maintenance as much as the archery... fletching, serving and fixing robin hoods!! (I'd like to say it's because I've got such good grouping, but my practice range at home is only 10m!) - need to cross over to pin nocks I think! When building an arrow I'm guessing the order is bow weight, draw/arrow length, spine, nock size/weight and then arrow point to give the correct FOC/tune?
Hey Jake, first of all thanks for putting some great info! Will higher humidity while glueing in points and pins cause problems later like building pressure inside the shaft?
hey Jake. i notice you had on a arrow wrap on your arows. those doesnt affect the arrows at all. or do you prefer a specific type. if you send link for those
It seems that *everyone* uses the open flame + glue stick method for securing their points. Is there a specific reason why no one uses the squeeze-bottle insert glues? I'm a little nervous working with open flames in my apartment but don't want to use crap methods and equipment either. Are squeeze-bottle glues not an adequate alternative?
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Thank you for your response, I refer to the arrows of 8 millimeters thick, if they have some use especially in the Olympic shot or are not used?
Why BE arrow dont recommend using hot melt to their carbon shaft? Why they recommend use super glue? I use super glue to fletch vanes not to install point or pin insert.
What happens if I mindlessly glued the point at the rear of the arrow ... Then removed it. How this mistake will affect the arrow also if I use inout nocks it may get stick to the arrow? How can I remove glue in the back of this arrow so my nock won't get stuck. Thank you.
Grab a point that is unglued and heat it up, put it in the shaft and it should push the glue out of the way. It won't hurt the arrow otherwise or its performance
Jake, I don't recommend that you twist the shaft when removing the points. While there is no problem with Al-C shafts such as you did the demonstration on, if you get into that habit and you do that with an all-carbon shaft, you are likely to crack the shaft. Just pull straight. It works, for all shafts.
I never hotmelt my points in all carbon shafts, they come loose and pull out in targets in my experience. I use CA glue or epoxy. Yes it is permanent but the only way to do it for all carbon shafts IMHO.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery My point is you are teaching a technique to people who do not know these things, so it is best to consider their ignorance. I am reviewing your RUclips channel positively on my blog and if you want me to review your new book in Archery Focus magazine, please send us a copy.
Would hot melt be acceptable for carbon arrows when tuning? Cause I can't imagine it's easy (or even possible) to remove the point after gluing it in place with CA. And after finding the proper length and point weight, then use CA. Is that a good idea, or is there a better way to tune carbon arrows?
Good video, thank you! Yet I have to comment on your intro...making the content IS free since RUclips doesn't charge to post videos. Patreon allows YOU to get paid by supporters for the content you post.
In my experience near-boiling water will remove points and pins easily and without damage. I just make a cup of hot water and soak the arrow tips for 30 seconds and they come right out.
As a heating device I use a so-called 'Storm/Jet Cigarette lighter' or a 'Creme Brullee burner' both are very portable, can be filled from a normal lighter gas filler, and can be taken with you to tournaments.
I prefer a candle cheap, safe and works perfect
I had a problem with my pins coming lose, even when glued in with a generous amount of glue.
I looked around and found a tip. It was suggested that you drape a plastic bag (the kind you get at the grocery story), over the pin and then push the shaft VERY SLOWLY down onto the shank of the pin. You then pull the arrow from the plastic, cleaning up the excess. I've never had one come lose. I also wrap a layer of plumbers tape over the pin so the nocks will stay in place. Again, never lost one using this method.
Sjef vd Berg holds the arrow in his armpit so he can easily grab it when he's gluing in hit components. Found that easy to do and saves you from having to look away from the flame to pick up the arrow.
Nice video as always, thanks!
Hey Jake, perfect timing, just about to build my own arrows for the first time in the next couple of weeks. Loving the maintenance as much as the archery... fletching, serving and fixing robin hoods!! (I'd like to say it's because I've got such good grouping, but my practice range at home is only 10m!) - need to cross over to pin nocks I think! When building an arrow I'm guessing the order is bow weight, draw/arrow length, spine, nock size/weight and then arrow point to give the correct FOC/tune?
What's that blue cover called that you are using?
Awesome tips Jake. Much appreciated.
If the points material is not of stainless steel(zinc for example) how do you recommend work with it?
Same process!
Thanks for this resource. I'm about to build my very first arrows and this helps a lot. I hope! 😅
I just purchased "carbon fiber", shafted arrows. And exactly what you said and discussed happened to me. Thank you.
Great video !! Thanks !!
When I was putting points in my barebow arrows, I dropped hotmelt on my leg by accident. I still have the scar
Hey Jake, first of all thanks for putting some great info! Will higher humidity while glueing in points and pins cause problems later like building pressure inside the shaft?
Yup, that's how I do mine nocks/points. Just transposed this technique from wood arrows to carbon/aluminums - and it works great!
hey Jake. i notice you had on a arrow wrap on your arows. those doesnt affect the arrows at all. or do you prefer a specific type. if you send link for those
What if you shot a lighter lower stiffness arrow, but pressureized the inside of the shaft?
It seems that *everyone* uses the open flame + glue stick method for securing their points. Is there a specific reason why no one uses the squeeze-bottle insert glues? I'm a little nervous working with open flames in my apartment but don't want to use crap methods and equipment either. Are squeeze-bottle glues not an adequate alternative?
The hot melts are not permanent the squeeze glues are generally considered once and done.
8 millimeter thick arrows what are they used for?
Top Olympic and compound shooters use threes arrows exclusively
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Thank you for your response, I refer to the arrows of 8 millimeters thick, if they have some use especially in the Olympic shot or are not used?
I recommend Gorrila impact resistant or Loctite impact resistant super glue.Don’t lose expensive points and ruin arrows hitting points in targets.
Why BE arrow dont recommend using hot melt to their carbon shaft? Why they recommend use super glue? I use super glue to fletch vanes not to install point or pin insert.
What happens if I mindlessly glued the point at the rear of the arrow ... Then removed it. How this mistake will affect the arrow also if I use inout nocks it may get stick to the arrow? How can I remove glue in the back of this arrow so my nock won't get stuck.
Thank you.
Grab a point that is unglued and heat it up, put it in the shaft and it should push the glue out of the way. It won't hurt the arrow otherwise or its performance
Hot melt will let you down.
you messed up didnt you? lol you did the tip before letting the nock cool. Was this your first time? HAHA
say what?
One Hour ago I glued my Points and now I see your video ;)
Hopefully they don’t rattle!
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Luckily not. Thanks for your content, it's very helpful.
Jake, I don't recommend that you twist the shaft when removing the points. While there is no problem with Al-C shafts such as you did the demonstration on, if you get into that habit and you do that with an all-carbon shaft, you are likely to crack the shaft. Just pull straight. It works, for all shafts.
I never hotmelt my points in all carbon shafts, they come loose and pull out in targets in my experience. I use CA glue or epoxy. Yes it is permanent but the only way to do it for all carbon shafts IMHO.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery My point is you are teaching a technique to people who do not know these things, so it is best to consider their ignorance. I am reviewing your RUclips channel positively on my blog and if you want me to review your new book in Archery Focus magazine, please send us a copy.
Yeah just broke 1 shaft cuz twisting it 🤣🤣🤣
Would hot melt be acceptable for carbon arrows when tuning? Cause I can't imagine it's easy (or even possible) to remove the point after gluing it in place with CA. And after finding the proper length and point weight, then use CA. Is that a good idea, or is there a better way to tune carbon arrows?
Can you use a heat gun instead of a torch?
Yep- it’s WAY better
Good video, thank you!
Yet I have to comment on your intro...making the content IS free since RUclips doesn't charge to post videos. Patreon allows YOU to get paid by supporters for the content you post.