4 CVT Subarus attempt Imogene Pass. A film about the power of LOVE!
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- On August 24th, I guide four brave Subarus that want to attempt to drive up one of the tallest drivable peaks in the USA, Imogene Pass (13,114 feet). We drove up the more technical Ouray side. This is our story!
Please note that all Subarus in this video are modified and you should be very careful about sending a stock AWD up this 4WD moderate trail. All Subarus in this video have disconnected or deleted front & rear sway bars and upgraded suspension (either Ironman ATS coil over kit or Raceworks Coil Overs). All Subarus have upgraded transmission cooling, and we took periodic breaks to let temperatures cool down.
Imogene pass will be very difficult for any vehicle that does not have a low gear transfer case or aggressive gearing. Please do not attempt if you and/or your vehicle is not prepared.
Traffic jams can cause a lot of issues on this trail.
NAVIGATION
00:00 INTRO
01:51 Getting started, testing approach and departure
05:44 Optional Obstacle: testing clearance, flex, and crawl ratio
15:04 Rocky Shelf Choke point
21:13 Skid Plates
23:02 Climb to Poser Rock
28:50 Explanation of the final challenges and scouting with the Honda
33:31 Climb Challenge 1. SEND IT!
39:31 Trail Traffic!!! Wait! I know these guys!
41:21 Final Boss Climb! SEND IT!
52:36 The Summit!
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I heard that the white forester does realllly well! 😉
Hahah, I'm dying of the suspense!
🙌🏼👍🏼
That was some excellent drone piloting. Did you experience any trouble flying at those altitudes considering the lower air pressure and possible wind?
MH - great drone work mate & your Forester rocks, I have a lifted SH & am lusting after that alloy front bar you have, nice sleek design, well done.
It makes me happy to see modded Subies are capable to making it through Imogene Pass.
At the elevation that this place is at a turbo model would be perfect. I would personally take an older XT Forester or a lifted WRX wagon. I currently own an 05 WRX sedan.
I wonder if my low rider could get through. 🤔
@@evoman44 it would work great if you can keep the revvs up and are in boost range, but the lower compression ratio and low stall torque can make a trail challenging in a 4 cylinder turbo. Crawl ratio is king 😀. A Naturally aspirated 86 HP Suzuki Samurai with low gear transfer case would slay a high elevation trail like this. My friends that have current gen 260HP Outback XTs with the FA24DIT engine will nearly stall out at these elevations on a paved road from a dead stop.
Awesome. I really appreciated you telling us year, suspension mods , driveline and wheel/tire combos of these vehicles. Most informative subaru specific video I've seen. Thank you!
A great video guys, your combined car, phone & drone work really tells the story well with your obvious friendship & mutual support shining through. A great group to go anywhere in the outdoors with for sure.
Thank you Jon and Matt for the phenomenal video and sharing your adventures with us! ❤😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Oh so beautiful. Y'all had so much fun. Not thing better than a great group gathering to do just that! Thank you for sharing
Awesome congrats to all of you! Next year damn it! I'm gonna do Imogene in the Disco Sport! Glad you all made it safe and all rigs were in one piece. Great that you ran into German and Jay up there too!
I saw a few Subarus up on the pass a few years ago, we were on a bike trip they were having a great time!
Beautifully shot. It doesn’t look as steep on video but from the way everyone was revving, you can tell it wasn’t easy. I love the energy from everyone. Congrats on the climb ❤
Great content! Love that you share crossovers (even if modified) doing this stuff!
Thanks Jeffrey!
Looks like you guys had ton of fun Jon =) As always thanks for letting us share in your adventures!
It was a really good time. This being my 3rd consecutive year doing Imogene Pass, I have no desire to run it again. Next year we will have to go somewhere else 😀
Congrats everyone! What a great crew (the cars and the people)!
Thanks Boss Lady!!! Was a pleasure meeting you! Thanks for the sandwiches and making the fires at camp 🏕️. Congrats on becoming CEO!
I sat through the entire video with this rush of anxiety as if I was there with you guys!! Take me with you on the next one! I'd like to put my battle Pilot to the test 🙌😆. Congrats to the entire team that made it up. So awesome 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Poser rock looks cool and I know it's safe if you're careful. But it still scares the shit outta me just the same. I'm glad you guys used spotters and were very careful. Accidents happen when you let your guard down, and that is the wrong place to hit the wrong pedal or have a failure of some kind. This is one of the coolest Subaru Trekking videos I've ever seen. Great Job!
Thanks Databyter! My first 2 visits to Poser Rock, I had no urge to drive up on it 😂, this time around I succumbed to peer pressure!
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Well it IS a nice pic. And you actually got drone footage as well. I'm so scared of heights I'd want to be attached to somebodies winch. Lol. Not really, but I'd THINK about it.
You have no idea how much I enjoyed this video! Thanks 😊!
I love the vehicles specs on the outside edge of the video. Fun to see that and watch the rig attempt obstacles
I’m enjoying watching this video bro. This is awesome 🤙🏽
Thanks Michael! It was awesome to work on the video!
I've always liked Bruceyyyys slimmed down look. Not flashy but gets the job done. Who needs a bumper anyway!
Great video. Love that had all the vehicle specs during portions of the video
I iust saw your old imogene pass video a couple days ago ! Well done my dude !
Thank you!
Wow ❤ You all killed it!
WOW! Bruceyyyy and his wonderful wife came from West Virginia! One state over from me. I'm in Virginia. I watch Bruceyyy too. I watch all of y'all 👍🏼👍🏼
Come along next year 😀! I'm not sure if Bruceyyyyy and Nita will be able to make it out though!
Crazy aerial footage and 250:1 is wild on that FJ lol
That is one thing I loved about my old school subies (i.e. 4x140 bolt pattern wheeled cars) you get some very funny looks from jeeps and such being out on trails like this one lol, I sure do miss my little 76 4wd wagon though but loving the Sequoia I have now. Hopefully in the next year or 2 we will be able to do Imogene pass while over visiting my sister who lives north of Denver.
Great drone work nice shots.
Ive got the same green 3.6 as Brucyyy with same wildpeak trails and my sidewalls have taken a beating too. Ill be looking for some tougher tires next time.
Great seein all ya'lls gettin after it, Whaooo!!
Nice video. Dropping the pressures more will also help with the climb as you will have more rubber on the road.
Drone footage by a skilled pilot at an epic location 👌🏼
This video wouldn't be the same without that drone footage. Big shout out to @Matthew Heiskell !
You all were a great fun group to watch!!! That looked like so much fun. Truly God's country STUNNING. If I ever get the itch to come do that, I definitely would love to be in a great group like that
Thanks!! Such a beautiful place. Even driving on the Million Dollar Highway an amazing experience! We visit Colorado every year, so if you want to join us, please let us know! It would be awesome to have a Forester Wilderness join in and it would do great!
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I promise I will do my best. It would be wonderful meeting you and hopefully your sweet wife :)
Great video. I’d love to upgrade my 2023 Crosstrek for a little more adventure mode. Currently all stock.
Thank you for sharing!
It was an awesome time!
Awesome summit my dudes!
Thanks Zack!!!
Great job
ty ty
I have always liked the Subaru even if have never owned one And I have done Imogene pass quite a few times; just a short drive over to the Ouray area from Moab where I used to live, but did it in a Hummer. You guys did good. Now, head over to Moab and do Hell's revenge one of the easiest in Moab.
Well done everyone!
Love the content! Wish I could make it out on a trail ride with you !
Thanks Steve! If you want to join in on the adventures join my "Crossoverlanding (hub)" facebook group. If you haven't already!
Cool to see what a Subaru can do with some upgrades. I have a winch on my '23 Crosstrek Sport. Seriously considering a lift and bigger tires. Mostly so I can make it up and down the unmaintained road to my house!
Awesome!!! 😍
Thanks for posting. Amazing adventure, with this elevation the engines are done, but you reached the summit. I'm from the Italian alps and got a dual range SG forester with the two liter na engine with twincams. A powerful engine but not the best one for off roading, it needs to be revved, the red line is at 7500 rpm 🙆♂️🤦♂️
Awesome Video... great trail, makes me want to get out there... One thing to note at 19:40.... the cross in the background... yeah... TIME TO GO....😂
Thanks Rick! Yeah, just paying out respects to that grave :P
@@JonDZ_Adventuring glad it was not a “Blair witch” type of thing. :)
When are we getting some wilderness trims on this trip? I got an ‘23 OBW with just some plates and an iron man kit that’s willing to go.
44:49 I was like "Darn. Shame he can't do a U turn" 😳
haha
this makes me want to get a locker now for my 21 obxt
Honda Power! 💪
VTEC kicked in YO!
Best outdoor sport
I've seen parts of this on another channel, but I have enjoyed seeing it again. Plus there is some added scenery in here. By the way, it was mentioned that some means of monitoring transmiission temps. I have a factory oil cooler because I have the wilderness. I don't know how good it is but I know it is more than most Outbacks get. But I don't have a way to monitor Transmission temperature. I think I ran across a gizmo that hooks in to your inspection port (I forget the name of that) that allows you to , among other things, see your transmission temp, and it has a little cheap looking (but good enough) monitoring screen that looks like it could attach to a dashboard or kneeboard. What do you guys use to monitor your transmission temps. And do you think that the extra cooling advertised on the Wilderness is as good as the aftermarket solutions people use or would I end up having to upgrade anyway? No problem if you guys don't know the answers to some of this, I just thought you might since, well, you guys are out there. This was a great video. Great group of friendly people having fun and getting the most out of their hobby Subarus!
I've always mentioned the Scangauge 2. It was made back in the 90s and is still a really good option. They have the scangauge 3 now, but I don't feel a need to spend all that money, also, I don't need another bright screen in my face at night 🤣
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Thanks.That sounds like the one I read about, but I couldn't remember the name. I need to pick one of those up. And I agree on the versions. If I am only using it for one basic purpose that is satisfied by version 2, I'll pocket the savings. Thanks again.
Getting your part 107 is super simple. There are many study guides here on YT but as long as you can read a map you should be good to go
Thanks! I'll look into it!
Very cool seeing all the awd doing it!!! Is it just me or does the 2 subarus sound like a helicopter? No?
It's that boxer engine rumble, haha
You know how I feel about the Subi transmission. Kills me to see a big 3.6 engine that is probably producing around 200 lbs stall torque can't climb what would essentially be a loading ramp for a car hauler. Crawl ratio matters and 12.7 is poor, but even still, thats 2500 lbs-ft to the hubs and that should be enough. My Land Cruiser has the exact same crawl ratio in high range and roughly the same stall torque and I know it would make that hill. The altitude makes it hard for sure, but there is a lot of torque limiting going on with the lineartronic and it holds those poor Subi's back.
First of all. Did you know you won the Eco Flow River 2 giveaway?
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I was wondering about that. Didn't know it was real. What next?
Off roading and mountain climbing with a cvt and without 4lo? Sounds crazy.
Jon, it almost seemed like Matt H’s white forester has a “crawl ratio” like forester wilderness!? The way it went up that steep rock was impressive considering the relivley low H.P. Maybe he just sends it!
I wonder if the shorter wheelbase and less weight play a big factor in this as well.
@@sneakyracerpr really good observations guys. Theoretically, a longer wheel base should make climbing easier, but the low weight, lightened wheels and direct injection must have made the difference. I think we need to put a big emphasis on the Enkei wheels that Matt was running. Those are 14 lbs. a piece. A stock Forester wheel is 25-27 lbs. Matt's lighter wheels give him more WHP (wheel horse power) and torque. Also, accounting for rotational mass, that wheel choice makes his vehicle perform 208 lbs. lighter.
Nice!!👍
I need a Millie and a Jon to keep in the Scoutback for emergencies as part of my recovery gear!
Haha yuppppp of course!!
Hahaha! That's over 600 lbs. of Human Power
Always seems to come down to the CVT that's holding the Subarus back. The newer Wilderness Outback with the 2.4L turbo and revised gearing does help, but I've still seen videos of those stuck on steep inclines with the engine trying to rev but it's just sitting there doing nothing. Can't spin, can't move, just sitting there with the engine whirring. I guess the thing is, know your vehicle's limits (and your own). Personally, I'd love to see a normal 10 speed auto in the Outback Wilderness with a low range transfer case. That would be awesome.
I even had to use low range once backing up on a steep hill with my 01 tahoe. The air was so thin and they don't have a very loose torque converter
Could you put one in?
This was amazing. I just want to know how hot those transmissions got!
I had no issues with the trans overheating and was able to monitor and manage my temps in real time with the ScanGauge 2. I also have a Mishimoto trans cooler.
As noted in the video's information subtitles, all vehicles in this video have upgraded transmission cooling and all vehicles. Just like with @careylando2795 's Outback last year, we didn't observe excessive temps. At the higher altitudes, the thinner air and lack of engine power will bog down an engine enough so that the transmission doesn't get overworked.
A 20:1 crawl ratio isn’t bad, my old ranger with 4.56s is about 30 or 31:1, my wrangler is over 80:1
That part where the crosstrek comes up it looks like it's in 2x playback 🤣
Haha fr, had to send it just in case momentum was the only way!!
someone definitely needs to take the outback wilderness and forester wilderness up there.
Yeah, that was the plan! Matt has announced that he gets his forester wilderness in November. Would love to see him make the attempt. Make sure you're subscribed to his channel to find out. I bet one of the first things he does when he gets his FW is take it up Imogene. He lives alot closer to Colorado than me.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Subbed thanks love the content keep em coming
I'm so curious as to how a Rav4 Hybrid would deal with such a trip. The transmission is a completely different type of CVT, rear wheels have just an electric motor (40kW) driving them with no centre differential.
So.....would you say a Forrester is better because its naturally aspirated and better at altitude and the Forester has better angles? Im about to buy either a Forester or Outback so im learning. Moving from Austin to the mountains to get free.
Do those Subarus not really have low range? Looks like you all had a good time! low range makes night and day difference. I think I would even attempt Imogene pass without low range 😂
Nice video. Spotters calling out driver's side or passenger side instead of left/right might help with some confusion?
Thanks! I'm pretty sure that's what we were doing, but if someone called out left/right then I have some wrists to slap 😂
Is the cvt slipping on the rock shelf? I don't understand why it can't just crawl up?
what were the mods on these subarus? would love to know. they definitely modded the suspensions and wheels it looks like.
44:00 oh boy… nvm redeemed himself 😂 looking good. And 53:12 i don’t know been running Falkens only and haven’t had any issues with them 🤣 and idk about 4LO all day for that
@jondz_adventuring ....will your group be doing Imogene Pass in Summer 2024?
Carey gave it her all!
Sure did! And I made it unassisted the rest of the way up after that one obstacle. Just a small tug this time!
@@careylando2795 whoop whoop!
Just bought a 17 forester and this thing cam wheel
like the video very nice
I don't think I will modify any of my vehicles to that level. 😊 One of the reasons I traded my Outback Wilderness. Comfort is the key.
Traded for?
I’d love to see the new turbo engine do this
Wow the views are amazing!
absolutely!
Just got rid of my Tacoma trd off road for a Subaru forester wilderness. No regrets
My 78 Subaru 4x4 wagon would easily go up and down that rock out crop all day long no prob.
You have no idea what your missing.
Man those cvts screwing them at 7:35. Perfect example.
The momentum tho you go you go don’t go won’t make it up
❤
So true
CVT POWER!!!!!!!! 😁
I'm all too familiar with it, haha!
Im really pissed off right now after watching this video. I just bought a 2016 outback 3.6r and I truly had high hopes for it. I wish there was a way to make better power. Is there a way to change the 12.5.1 gear to a better crawling gear? What power upgrades are there?
I've been saying this for a while now, but if someone would just make an aftermarket transmission upgrade for Subarus, they would PRINT MONEY. With that said, there are really no current mass produced transmission upgrades for a CVT Subaru. If you had a stick shift, you can go with the ZF design dual range transmission swap. Anything is possible with enough time and money, but it would be completely custom.
Don't be mad, your vehicle still has alot of purpose. That thing gets good 28 MPGs when left in a similar form as Bruceyyyyy. Just travel within it's limits. It's rare you'll come across a 13,000 foot peak, so there's still alot of other places to go 😀
Curious at what % hp reduction was that 3.6r running at? Had to be sub 170 or so HP at that altitude right?
Every 1000 feet is 3% so at 13K feet that’s 39%, so I’m calculating 156 HP!! Woooo
Thanks, now I’m wondering what that would be for the boosted wilderness. Y’all running another CVT adventure in the future? I’ll keep searching for videos for OBW’s doing this climb, but so far I’ve yet to run into any.
All wheel drive in Subarus different from other cars? Because Subarus seemed to be able to to anywhere with those all wheel drives.
The green vehicle is my Honda Passport with iVTM4 awd. Definitely a different awd platform. I’d say old Subaru and new Subarus handle very different too, because of different transmissions and the introduction of brake vectoring.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Thank you for your answer.
The forester is the most capable subaru
That 2.5 barely did it but it made it.
Slay
Do these AWD Subies all have low gear transfer cases?
nope
Hasn't been a low-range in a Subaru since the 2nd gen Forester. All of these are newer CVT-based ones with a 'crawl mode' but no proper low-range.
Rener44, you'll see one in an upcoming "Gunnison Colorado" video. We have Javier and his 4th Gen Manual Forester that had the ZF design dual range transmission put in. We drive up steeper climbs and he was able to stop mid hill and continue on. It was quite impressive. That trip was 3 months ago, but the reason I've been lagging on completing the video is because the trip had so many lessons and I want to do the video justice. I'll try to produce it in 2 weeks time.
Honda 👍👍👍💪💪💪
How do you think a forester wilderness would do on Imogene ??
Considering that Matt's Forester with a 13.3:1 crawl ratio was able to make it up. The Forester Wilderness would just do it easier (given the same mods: Lift kit, higher clearance mods on the bumpers).
@@JonDZ_Adventuring nice I just picked up a 14 outback 6 speed manual yesterday! Looking forward to getting up Imogene in the near future!!
Opening graphic spelling. DISCRETION not descretion
Subaru cvt aren't that bad.
Awesome trail ride. Subaru CVT sucks ass. Most of these obstacles wouldn't have been nearly as tough with better gearing and a trans that will lock up. It's like we finally got the open diff thing sorted and Subaru screws us with a legit POS transmission
After 27 years of VERY faithful service, I will probably never buy a new Subaru that has a CVT. My Wilderness will be the last for a bit.
Since everything is electronically controlled, I seriously don't understand why we can't get a 4:1 1st gear in Xmode. My Wilderness is 2.62:1 lmao. It has like a 18:1 final drive. 300 ponies helps, but my Brat could have towed these cars up this shit
@@iluvdrt8776 Definitely valid points Jason, that's one thing about the TR580 CVT in the Forester Wilderness and upcoming Crosstrek wilderness, the TR5850 does a better job at locking up. Some people say that the TR580 is just too small to handle the extra power, but can't they just scale it up? Subaru Scales up the FA series engines. I dunno.... Once Subaru goes all electric, the transmissions won't matter I guess.
Bruceyyyyy was mentioning that someone is working on electric hub drives to provide supplemental capability. Aftermarket quad motors would be amazing for any vehicle!
Sup kuya howzit
Thanks for the support man!!! You have no idea how much I appreciate you!
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I’m with ya bro
Should have just taken a 4runner.
This wouldn’t be a film about love then, it would be a film about one of the one of the worst communities in the overlanding community 🤣. There’s some really nice people, but no other group has as many bad apples.
CVT's suck. There's just no denying it.
A lot of the issues blamed on CVT are actually caused by Torque Vectoring, which actually uses brakes to move torque from one wheel to another. It is a lightweight solution, but it is lossy. So if you don't have Torque to spare, you will end up using it all fighting your own braking system. It's not the CVT that stops these cars on a hill. It is the engine not having enough torque, and no low range on the rig. You can easily say that yes, a Jeep with an standard transmission could do better. But it's not the transmission, it is the low range gear box.. There is nothing inherantly wrong with modern CVT's they have come a long way. There are plusses and minuses. You will be thankful on the ride there, and the ride home, and at the Gas Station. I have the latest version of the Subaru CVT and I think it's great. I just wish there was a mode to stop it from simulating gears. Im not a child, Id rather have it do what it can do. The simulated gears are only useful when paddle shifting.
@@Databyter Fair enough. Such a shame Subaru cant add a low range transfer case. They would double or triple their sales for sure.
@@robertyoung8289 Blame the government regulations and classes, and MPG competitions. They've had low range boxes in the past, and also in other Countries. I believe a Company in Australia makes a low range solution, but I'm not sure how they fit in in there, you might have to go manual or something. I really haven't researched it. I know that with my Turbo I would do well at elevation compared to those naturally aspirated engines and my H4 2.4 boxer is 260ish HP, 270ish torque (memory so I might be wrong). My model also comes with a slightly lower final gear at the diffs., but I have lost some of that by going with 29.5 inch tires. All in all tho, my point. My CVT would not be a problem on the Imagene, although the video recommended a temp monitor which I think I would invest in to keep tabs. My model also has a bigger trans oil cooler than most other Subaru's. So I would be able to pick my way a bit better without having to nail it for momentum, but at the end of the day, I WOULD have to use momentum, just like all these other Subaru''s because of a lack of a low range gear box. We are either using momentum, or spinning up our torque converters and crossing our fingers. I worry about clearance more than anything else, because I am factory height, plus a bit more for oversized tires. But my factory height is, again, better than most other Subaru's. Not as good as some of the lifted ones here. The Outback Wilderness is a wonderful model just out the door, and with a few mods it could even be better. But the idea of it was that the factory would do a lot of the hobbiest mods in-house. So we have a front camera, lower final gearing, trans oil cooler, abbreviated bumpers, taller struts, which not only give us more ground clearance, but tuned articulation and range to go with it. The only thing I am unsure about is if I should take out my stabalizer bar for more flex. I mean, I mostly just commute., and I like how the car handles on the road. I'd like to see what it is capable of one day, but I didn't buy it to mess it up. I can't afford it. I just like to go to beautiful remote places. Imogene doesn't scare me too much. I wouldn't go alone, and I would talk to people that know it and get the OK for my rig before I went. It's a good thing it's not too close, because it's too tempting. Definitely would be a planned adventure for me.
@@Databyter I appreciate all your knowledge and input.
@@robertyoung8289 the guys on this channel know far more than I. I am full of questions. I do know a few things tho. I've been driving Subaru's for a few decades, mostly Legacy Wagons and Outbacks. Mostly NOT modded. But I know what some of those cars can do. My Legacy wagon has been to some amazing places, and looking back, I can't imagine how I did some of that stuff. No lift, normal tires, etc. It took skill and determination, and stubborness.
Why are some Yankees so afraid when off-roading. Send it.
You send it when you’re scared and don’t believe in your vehicle and have no respect for the trail, vehicle, others and yourself.
Why am I watching this? I don’t even own a lesbian vehicle.
It’s NOT wrong to watch lesbians
Modding any vehicle can make it thru anything. Show what stock will do. Useless
A 4x4 is worthless unless you can spin all 4 tires - none of these vehicles have the power / gearing to do so - they're just glorified cars.
yet still climbed the pass.
I mean reallly they’re not glorified. They ARE cars. And you’re right, they don’t have the power or gearing that 4x4s have. Which makes it pretty dang amazing that we all made it to the top. #drivermod #poweroflove
Its not power or gearing. The problem is the CVT
@@SDMTB14 tell us more. I’m curious as to your thoughts on this…
@@careylando2795 May be wrong but I sense some sarcasm on this. I was responding to the original comment stating subarus were glorified cars lacking power. The issues with CVTs in general for offroad situations is well documented in a lot of videos. I think Subarus are great vehicles, the transmission is the most limiting factor.
The lack of power in these vehicles is embarrassing! 😂😂😂😂
Please, stick to the pavement.