Subaru Outback Wilderness takes on Kramer's Arch. Will it be the first CVT to make it up?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @JonDZ_Adventuring
    @JonDZ_Adventuring  10 месяцев назад +8

    Hey all, I made a typo on the CVT models. For both the SJ Forester XT and Outback wilderness the CVT should be the TR690HT. Whoops!

  • @seanstewart6292
    @seanstewart6292 3 месяца назад +3

    seeing the 2 Pitbull's in the mine made my day as a dad of 4 pitties. they are the best doggos ever.

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 9 месяцев назад +6

    In 21 I bought my wife an Outback for her birthday gift.
    I was tired of us having to park her old Camry 3-4 months every winter. She would drive my old Rav 4WD and I’d drive our 4WD pickup.
    We’re 5 miles from town up on our mountain where we get 5-7 feet of snow.
    Her Camry was very reliable but after 18 years of driving it and then her having to use my car it kinda made sense to buy her an Outback.
    We LOVE the traction both on a mild off road trips that a year later in 22 I bought a Forester Touring for myself.
    We sold my Rav but donated the Camry to the church for a single mom who desperately needed a car.
    We never take our Subie’s off road for “4 wheeling”, but they’re great on logging and forest roads.

  • @Databyter
    @Databyter 9 месяцев назад +8

    I've got the same car, a 2022 OBW, the only mods I made are a bronze highlight delete on the exterior (kept the badge tho), and I have 245 Falken Trail AT's on Motegi 7,5X17 Rally Wheels, which gives me a half inch more clearance on paper, but in reality is is probably closer to 3/4 " because the Falkens tend to sag less than the Stock Tires as well as being taller.
    Any way you slice it I have over 10" clearance, which isn't much for trails like these, but better than stock and it's TRUE clearance, no Pumpkins etc.
    I do have the Subaru Recommended Skid Plates, self installed from front to back, and although people say they are inferior, I think they are misunderstood. This is a Unibody Frame. I don't want a super hard Plate hammering up into my frame and suspension. I want deformable energy absorbing tech, which is what the recommended plates do. They are designed to deflect and deform, much like modern bumpers vs those in the 60's.
    This is widely misunderstood, and People who bragg about super hard hits on their aftermarket plates with no damage, might want to look at the deformation of what they are mounted to, because unlike a Body on rails truck or jeep, you wouldn't want to jack up a car with a unibody skid plate. Just sayin.
    Anyhow, I digress. Great video. It would be fun to try some of that, but I mostly just explore without getting too technical. So far I've only needed Xmode a few times. I love my Rig. I keep it light, with minimal camping gear, a tow hitch that can be mounted in my factory receiver, hi flow air compressor, soft shackles and dynamic tow rope.
    All of which is mostly insurance that I haven't yet needed. I've been on super soft dry hot sand, snow, and mud, and only got stuck once, and Xmode and a skid plate got me out in less than 5 minutes. I probably didn't need the skid plate, but I didn't want to take the chance of digging down in sand. The Xmode didn't let it slip at all, I had been in normal mode for most of my sand experience, and it was fine for most of it, until I had to do a hard stop, self sticking myself.
    Cheers. Yeah Subbies. And all the other cool vehicles and brands on this video.
    Databyter

  • @bruceyyyyy
    @bruceyyyyy 10 месяцев назад +4

    Came for the Sube. Stayed for the Porsche.
    Btw the Wildy has a HTTR690. Not 580. I only point this out because seeing them both side by side I don't think they share any parts.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  10 месяцев назад +2

      It was a typo. I created a pinned post. The SJ FXT and OBW both gave the TR690HT and there is no such thing as a TR580HT (although, that would be pretty cool!)

  • @FIF0101578
    @FIF0101578 10 месяцев назад +6

    Great video like always. More Nissan Xterra content would be awesome though.

  • @4WDisLife
    @4WDisLife 9 месяцев назад +2

    and yea that locker slide is something interesting, I also found out after I installed the rear locker, maybe in some scenarios, it's better to not lock and just let atrac does the work?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад +1

      That’s one thing we learned from our “Trail Sensei” Nori. Where you don’t want to slide (like off a cliff in Moab), don’t use the locker. In some cases, momentum will be a better option.

  • @marden888
    @marden888 10 месяцев назад +2

    as always, awesome content🤙🏼 goodjob jon!

  • @javierlugo259
    @javierlugo259 9 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome Video Bro......Many Thanks.

  • @loganhagen5548
    @loganhagen5548 9 месяцев назад +1

    You need to test a stock Forester Wilderness. Just got mine two weeks ago!

  • @OverlandOverloaded
    @OverlandOverloaded 9 месяцев назад +1

    Glad you didn't die at the end!

  • @LionRunner
    @LionRunner 9 месяцев назад

    That's a beauty to see just basic 4WD + Atrac work. Why I never wanna go back to AWD world.

  • @FnFUMusic
    @FnFUMusic 9 месяцев назад +4

    Wonderful, handled with the grace and stature of a drunk penguin. I’ve never seen so many cars that shouldn’t be doing something they are doing somewhere they shouldn’t be.

    • @moonsapling
      @moonsapling 9 месяцев назад +6

      Jeeps arent meant for highways and malls yet they spend 90% of the time exactly there.

    • @Jase583
      @Jase583 9 месяцев назад +1

      It is about the adventure and let's see if we can.

    • @aberolick7857
      @aberolick7857 9 месяцев назад +1

      yeah, we're lucky we all made it out alive!

  • @iluvdrt8776
    @iluvdrt8776 10 месяцев назад +15

    The Wilderness OBW is a beast man. Im super impressed with it. 40k miles on mine now

    • @woodjunkjrjr2689
      @woodjunkjrjr2689 10 месяцев назад

      How is it in the rain, on pavement?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  10 месяцев назад +2

      Jason, when we did the oriflamme canyon trail with your OBW, it was hard for me to gauge because you have such a “driver mod” 😂. This obstacle was much different.

    • @iluvdrt8776
      @iluvdrt8776 10 месяцев назад

      @@woodjunkjrjr2689 sticks like glue

    • @iluvdrt8776
      @iluvdrt8776 10 месяцев назад

      @JonDZ_Adventuring yeah, it's funny, I was reading some comments on that one today and man did I have some haters lol

    • @woodjunkjrjr2689
      @woodjunkjrjr2689 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@iluvdrt8776 Just need bullet proof glass and a tear gas turrent, and I can drive it in Seattle.

  • @fozzy_che
    @fozzy_che 10 месяцев назад +1

    Was very interesting to see

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  10 месяцев назад +1

      I was genuinely intrigued when it just drove right up.

  • @elijahcavin2408
    @elijahcavin2408 9 месяцев назад +2

    That xterra was impressive. Went through it like it was locked. I have a second Gen cayenne diesel and love it for road trips and rough roads. I think the first gen would definitely be better in high tourque situations with the low range i just wish they had a diesel for range and mileage. Been looking at touaregs because they did have a diesel. If there was a way to put the old transfer case on the second gen I think it would be the best having the 8 speed trans and better traction control.

    • @FIF0101578
      @FIF0101578 9 месяцев назад +2

      For the size of the engine in an 2nd gen Xterra it’s kinda of a torque monster. 4.0 v6 265hp and 285 torque. Less hp than a 4Runner but more torque and when it comes to price they’re worlds apart.

    • @KrazyKoots
      @KrazyKoots 9 месяцев назад +1

      That was Definitely a Pro4x Xterra. They come with a rear locker. I'm sure that helped

  • @Easan302
    @Easan302 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good times 👍

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад

      That was a good trip, especially the target practice afterwards. We did more during the Death Valley trip. Very good day doing drills for me.

  • @50ccAdventure
    @50ccAdventure 10 месяцев назад +2

    Have the specs on that f150? Props to the guy bringing a full size out!

    • @Easan302
      @Easan302 10 месяцев назад +1

      It’s a 2018 XLT FX4 w/ 5.0. Factory skid plates and rear locker. Icon suspension on 35”x17x12.5 Kenda Klevers R/T

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад +1

      You’d probably make it Ernesto. It would be very tight though, totally not worth it 🤣

  • @chuckwalla2967
    @chuckwalla2967 9 месяцев назад +1

    Sure it made it up, but how much wear and tear did it cause on the CVT?

  • @lolness116
    @lolness116 8 месяцев назад +1

    Man would love to see a forester wilderness try this.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  7 месяцев назад +1

      I would imagine it would make it up. If you watched the Sarah N Tuned hill test. the OBW didn't make it up, but the FW did.

    • @AntilleanConfederation
      @AntilleanConfederation 3 месяца назад

      @@JonDZ_Adventuringforester W with the outback’s 2.4 T and a manual would be insanely capable. Modern version of the lada niva.

  • @0HOON0
    @0HOON0 10 месяцев назад +1

    When did the Outback first get the TR580? Earlier models had the TR690 until at least 2023 MY.

  • @BodiesByJason
    @BodiesByJason 9 месяцев назад

    I wanna see the wilderness do the same obstacle with a rear locker

  • @thomas735
    @thomas735 10 месяцев назад +2

    Are the newer CVTs heavier duty?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  10 месяцев назад +2

      Same model CVT, but with improvements and updated programming

    • @thomas735
      @thomas735 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring hmm interesting. They do seem to drive better compared to the older ones.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  10 месяцев назад

      The capability difference is quite substantial, but it appears that it also has a lot to do with how the traction control system is more aggressive.

    • @thomas735
      @thomas735 10 месяцев назад

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring you would know! I have to say I’m surprised at what “car based” crossovers can accomplish these days. I also never knew a passport could be so capable.

    • @rodrigogoytia925
      @rodrigogoytia925 7 месяцев назад +1

      they beefed it up a bit and their cooling is upgraded for all wilderness trims so it doesn't overheat easily.

  • @johnwayne8475
    @johnwayne8475 3 месяца назад

    One thing you might not realise is the Outback 3.6R 5sp SEAT has a LSD rear diff which helps with traction when there is wheel lift.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  3 месяца назад

      Source? Subaru incorrectly called their brake vectoring an “E-LSD” for a while. Not sure if they still do. Some versions of the older outbacks had a mechanical LSD with no brake vectoring, but the LSD would wear out and act as an open differential.

  • @florianraducan
    @florianraducan 10 месяцев назад +1

    I tried finding out what is the crawl ratio for a Honda CR-V 2008 i-CTDi 2.2l diesel, but can’t seem to find this info. Is there a way to calculate the crawl ratio?

    • @CalebCissna
      @CalebCissna 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lowest Transmission gear ratio multiplied by the axle final drive ratio

    • @florianraducan
      @florianraducan 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@CalebCissna Thanks! The crawl ratio would be 3.93x4.11=16.1523. Is that ok for this type of SUV?

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад

      That’s actually pretty good for an AWD, and it’s diesel? Even better!

  • @jeffnaval4894
    @jeffnaval4894 9 месяцев назад +1

    Crosstrek wilderness easily beats the OBW when it comes to this type of obstacle.

  • @jorgeserrano8806
    @jorgeserrano8806 9 месяцев назад

    For the Outback wilderness, what is the brand for your front skid plate?

  • @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
    @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 4 месяца назад

    Get a person from Bolivia, Pakistan, & Madagascar they will get those vehicles anywhere on the trails!

  • @davidwelty9763
    @davidwelty9763 6 месяцев назад

    A company with the light off road credibility of Subaru should never had embraced the CVT.

  • @shannonstrode7967
    @shannonstrode7967 9 месяцев назад

    Man i wouldnt trade my trail hawk for any of these

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад +1

      That Porsche is 4WD and has 550 hp and torque

    • @shannonstrode7967
      @shannonstrode7967 9 месяцев назад

      @@JonDZ_Adventuring a locker is so nice to have tho

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад

      @@shannonstrode7967 True! I believe the cayenne can be optioned with one. The 1st gen Touareg has that option.

    • @trailrunnah8886
      @trailrunnah8886 9 месяцев назад

      Those first gen Cayenne's are awesome, but I have to imagine they're a maintenance nightmare.

  • @rener44
    @rener44 9 месяцев назад

    Flip flops

  • @sjfk1306
    @sjfk1306 9 месяцев назад +1

    It’s really not that impressive if 2 Honda AWD minivans made it….

  • @aoweiman
    @aoweiman 9 месяцев назад +4

    "There's plenty-" Classic moment, Subarus have good ground clearance but they're approach angles leave alot to be desired.

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад +3

      A bigger subframe drop will fix that. Too many Subues are modded out to get a 2” lift, and not enough with a 4” lift with 2” subframe drop.
      With that said though, Abe’s OBW wilderness was totally stock and he got through the trail and back at camp like a trooper!

    • @onetimer100
      @onetimer100 6 месяцев назад

      It's a car not a rock climber or even a 4x4

  • @pnw_element9822
    @pnw_element9822 10 месяцев назад +2

    Tough and what a great driver as well heck yeah guys fun fun fun

  • @jximages
    @jximages 9 месяцев назад +3

    This was a fun watch. I'm currently trying to decide between 3 of the vehicles you showed. Those OBWs have a lot going for them. Great production,

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 9 месяцев назад +2

      OBW and the Forester Wilderness are very good choices for serious off roading.
      Both our OBW and Forester are not the Wilderness trim, as we needed vehicles with superior traction.
      We get 5-7 feet of snow up on our mountain every winter.
      Our road is private so we have to plow and maintain it ourselves.
      When chainsaw are required to travel over the mountain passes between us and Seattle, the State Police will always allow Subaru’s to travel with just snow tires and chains are optional.
      During snow storms if we have to go into the city (25 miles away), the Subaru’s are mostly in the fast lane going around 45-55mph while all of the FWD and other AWD and 4WD vehicles are in the slow lane driving around 30-35mph.
      We have only seen 1 Subie in the ditch (it was a 17 year old boy driving). We pulled over and picked him up and drove him to his house.
      Every other time the vehicles in the ditch or spun out are Not Subaru’s.
      Whenever we have to drive to the family ranch in Montana (12 hours away), people with Subaru’s are confident in their vehicles.
      When ours wear out, we’ll replace them with another Subaru

    • @jximages
      @jximages 9 месяцев назад

      Nice. I really enjoyed sitting in the OWB at the dealership@@Doc1855 . Right now the choices are OWB, Taco Off-Road w/6 ft bed, or a 4Runner Off-Road. It'll be for forest roads and high clearance vehicle roads in Northern NM, and Colorado. So snow and and challenging terrain will always be a concern. And I need something to be able to sleep in at low temps and high winds. I know just about every other person in the southern rockies has a Subaru, very popular for mountain driving.

  • @popeyerubi1981
    @popeyerubi1981 9 месяцев назад +2

    Let’s go, Abe!!! Wuhoo!! Nicely done bro! Haha!
    That jetboil at the end. 😂😂😂

  • @no-lodesigns
    @no-lodesigns 9 месяцев назад +3

    Another solid adventure in the books!

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks Ian! I actually had a little advertisement on our way to the arch, but my video was over 50 minutes long and I had to do some trimming 😭

  • @jltplease
    @jltplease 9 месяцев назад +1

    Bro, I saw you driving in Irvine freeway on Saturday. Passport is looking cool.

  • @spartanj2957
    @spartanj2957 7 месяцев назад

    My 78 Subaru 4x4 wagon would have done it easily.

  • @Hondo21435
    @Hondo21435 10 месяцев назад +1

    What’s the max height to clear that. I wonder if I can fit under the arch 🤔

    • @JonDZ_Adventuring
      @JonDZ_Adventuring  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’m not totally sure, but there’s height and also width to worry about. It’s a good obstacle because it forces the driver to use a max amount of momentum. My guess is that the dead center is about 90” tall, but it’s an uphill obstacle and it tapers to the center.

  • @4WDisLife
    @4WDisLife 9 месяцев назад

    safe to say my tundra is probably too big for it.

  • @Jaypher
    @Jaypher 9 месяцев назад

    Are you using the empty spare tire space for something? I get the appeal for a swing arm spare on the crosstrek given it doesnt come with a full size spare. Adding the swing arm just seems like added weight, so your insight is appreciated!

    • @aberolick7857
      @aberolick7857 9 месяцев назад

      yeah, in the spare wheel well i have permanently mounted a 100Ah lifepo4 battery, 30A dc-dc charger, 1000W inverter, fuse panel, and two radios (gmrs and ham). i have all my tools/recovery gear in there as well.

  • @ChrisShawMedia
    @ChrisShawMedia 9 месяцев назад +1

    That Gen 1 Cayenne. Awesome √

  • @Andrew-jh5uv
    @Andrew-jh5uv 9 месяцев назад

    NO! Diff lock it and bin CVT subaru🙄

  • @Dudleyism1
    @Dudleyism1 9 месяцев назад

    does the 2022 have the same cvt as the 2023 ?

  • @sfshilo
    @sfshilo 10 месяцев назад +3

    The second gent x-mode in low drive selection does well on the non wilderness as well.
    I think people try and shove too much tire on these which is going to impact the cvt performance by over torquing the trans.

    • @JeffSpehar-ov1cn
      @JeffSpehar-ov1cn 10 месяцев назад +2

      The OBW has a transmission cooler also, the other models do not.

  • @dannyboy1984
    @dannyboy1984 9 месяцев назад

    Did you use Xmode 1 or 2 ? Deep sand and mud work's better in my opinion plus it give's more agressive throttle input

    • @aberolick7857
      @aberolick7857 9 месяцев назад

      x-mode 1 (snow/dirt) for sure.

  • @TOFU2urDOOR
    @TOFU2urDOOR 9 месяцев назад +1

    I was impressed by the Subaru until I looked up the price.

  • @OcaroPineappl9033
    @OcaroPineappl9033 8 месяцев назад

    Within the first 10 seconds, i knew the driver was unfamiliar with subarus symmetrical awd