@@joeking433thanks to both of you guys. $25 ($300 a year) or $1500 a year for someone who is only interested in dabbling with 3d, no commercial reason. Shapr3d is not fore me.
@@joeking433 I thought OnShape allowed "x" amount of free storage and had some free limitations. I could be wrong. We tried it at my last company as an alternate to ProE and it worked well. The biggest issue is that it was all cloud based so having some security on the parts we were designing seemed to be risky. The other issue was it was way to easy for multiple engineers to check out the same part and modify it without another engineer knowing. I think that was a bug that they hopefully fixed.
I think its worth a revisit this year. There has been a bunch of improvements, cloud cross saving, and the next big update will introduce a feature history.
Thanks for this video! Checking out a lot of videos - this was by far the most informative, easiest to digest, and presented well from someone with a similar experience level as me (experience with other commercial CAD programs). For me the main use case is for iPad modeling away from my desk, like in my truck on lunch breaks or on the couch while watching my baby (where having the laptop out isn’t really convenient due to a toddler running around). Not yet sure how it’ll play out but this definitely answered a lot of questions for me. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it. I'd like to do a follow up vid when I get a chance as Shapr3d recently had an event which showed of their cloud saving and cross platform workflow. Certainly a welcome feature being able to seamlessly work between ipad and windows PC.
I like it. I saw an ad online and decided to try the free version, just for messing around at home. I'm nearly 62 but I immediately saw the potential and decided to pay the subscription fee because I have to regularly produce small parts at work and manually drafting these parts was a drag, especially when you'd have to make changes after review. I also like that there's a fair number of tutorial videos that you can follow to learn the more complex features of SHAPR. I'm hoping that they add some more features to the 2D drawing production capability. This would be useful when trying to do exploded component drawings. Overall a great program. I use it on my desktop at home with a LG 32" WQHD Nano IPS 144HZ HDR 400 curved monitor. Producing CAD drawings makes my work look so much more professional!
Well, your video mentioned the issues I struggle with too. I stumbled upon Shapr3d by accident, watched a few videos and started modelling with it. It is great on the iPad and I could see myself using this tool. However, the pricing model is what bothers me. As much as I love the tool, it is just too expensive for private use.
WOW... having paused to install and give it a try, really wish I'd reached the part regarding the CEO responses. Tempted to delete my previous responses to your other commentors. All for a company getting its money but giving it to a person that responds to the community in such a manner isn't happening - regardless of his reply to yourself to save face and reputation. Great video btw, subscribed for your honest approach, hope you have an amazing career!
Thank you. I have spoken to him since and he is a good guy, I think just made a bad judgement at the time. When I have time I'd love to make a follow up to this video and put more time into Shapr3D as it does has some good features. Worth a try to see what you think anyway.
I downloaded this over 2 years ago and gave up on it after a few half hearted sessions. I picked it up again a couple months ago and put in some time watching videos on it. I'm really enjoying designing on the iPad and have created a number of projects now. Even though I'm not a fan of subscription based apps, that's the direction these are going. I've used Sketchup for years and I've tried the trials of their current offerings and I'm liking the Shapr product better for my current workflow. Sure, I miss some SU features and liking some new ones that Shapr has so it's a wash for me. I'm semi retired now andthe $$ is an issue. But, I get a lot of enjoyment out of 3d modeling that I can utilize with my 3d printer and CNC so I'm gonna roll with it...
I'd rather pay once. Few companies do the model I like which is buy once and receive upgrades forever like Fruity Loops. Too bad they don't make CAD programs though.
It’s a shame the tech industry wants to subsist solely on subscriptions. I was lucky in 2008 when Sketch Up was selling one-of -payment Licence. Even when later they moved to subscription and denied my access unless I ‘upgrade’, I still managed to get an update in 2017 without extra cost and the right to use it based on my first original licence. My claim was that the software didn’t even changed a bit since I bought it in 2008 and to pay for an upgrade wasn’t justified. I also paid the original licence to download the software in my hardware so I can use it regardless being connected to internet. I wish these softwares companies offer the old license option again instead of subscriptions with internet dependency.
Thank you for this video! Saved me considerable lost hours learning the software, only to find out that the hobby version is unusable to 3d print. I had hoped to find a hobbyist friendly cad software for the ipad, but at that price point, shap3d isn't it.
@@user-jk9zr3sc5hNo doubt this is too late, might help another user though. Hobby version .stl has the low poly resolution of the original Playstation at best, fine for sharp edged shapes but useless for anything curved. Understand why they make us submit details, watch tutorials to showcase the product before we find out the price etc. Renting features for a hobby project that's worked on a couple times a year for that price just isn't worth the money to me personally. Yeeted the software and browser cookies - one of them is set to a decade. Left my details with them for the time being (you can request deletion) as I hope they change the subscription model and don't mind being updated if they do. I'd pay for the occasional high-res export depending on cost. Nice product you can rent for convenience, but I'll stick to Blender and YT for tools and tuts.
Having gone through the tuts, it's easily one of the most intuitive pieces of CAD software I've seen, learning curve is a matter of minutes rather than hours assuming you remember the tutorials. That being said the hobby version exports are comically bad and the price to rent the "pro" export feature is insane for a hobbyist on a budget. No idea about other software for iPad but if you find anything of this caliber for knocking out models for free - tap back, I'd consider an iPad, at least I'd own it.
I downloaded Sharp3D in my iPad and use it till I was fairly comfortable using it. I love it, is actually quite easy to learn. The let down is just that as a hobbyist the price of Sharp3D is just too expensive.
Oh my I’m at the end of my degree and have only just heard about shapr, luckily I managed to get a year license to try and mess around with but after that I doubt I’ll be using it especially when solid works now has a hobbyist license for $99
Grats on getting to the end. Another to try out which I think Im going to be putting some time into is plasticity 3d. Very similar workflow to shapr3d but not on ipad. Quick tool for ideating designs which you could then use solidworks or fusion for the main cad stuff.
I am looking for a tablet based mobile CAD solution. The workflow looks very intuitive, but not having a feature tree is a killer argument for me. I am using SolidWorks & Fusion360 on my desktop PC, but my mobile setup will probably be then a Windows based tablet with a stylus and fusion 360.
For any small business/side hustle that is a serious bargain tho… Half price of fusion and now with history. Will have to look into it, even if I probably won’t use it on iPad much
I can understand that you are frustrated over the pricing. I just figured out that for students and teaching personell you get pro free of charge. So yes I think 20€ a month is a lot but due to me mostly using an iPad I was really happy about the generous offer of the developer. Through your subscription you also support students and education.
I am using it. The pricing isn’t an issue because it’s easy to pick up. Some people are using it for a 1500 dollar 3d printer and 30 dollars for 1kg of filament so 20 dollars a month is nothing
It's worth the cost to me, I have hundreds of designs I created that were simplified with the Shapr3d workflow. It's not worth it to those that have little use for it, or for hobby purposes It's not the best cost wise.
Thanks for your thoughts. Glad it is working for you and you might want to check out the updated video I did on Shapr3d considering the new changes etc since this video.
Hey mate, I am a boilermaker, and I want a cad program for drawing on site. I am currently using paper and pen. Would you recommend that I learn shapr3d? I have very little cad experience, and I just want something to take measurements and draw up simple structures like handrails, steps, and mezzanins. Or even just getting an initial drawing that I can take to a draftsman.
The free version you can export but its low quality so from what Ive heard quite faceted and not good for printing. The paid version you get full quality stl prints.
"For the cost of a few coffees a month..." definitely wont be using it beyond the EDU license. But at least i can get a grasp of general CAD designing for the time being.
But if I’m not mistaken, the mobile version of Fusion 360 is simply a viewer, not an editor. So working off an iPad on the fly, you’re left with… Onshape? Awsome program, but all your work is entirely public, unless you pay $1500USD (!?!?!). Any others that you like better for the iPad, that are any less? Or is it desktop or nothing?
I too was disappointed that fusion was just a viewer on mobile. I think Shapr3D is easily the best on ipad and with the new cloud sync in the latest version it makes it even more viable. I do plan to do an updated video since a lot has changed with Shapr3D.
The design and user experience of this was made for iPad. I know there bunch of apps out there that probably do more but they all seem so bloated and old.
The price is £40 uk pounds which is a lot of money for a hobbyist to pay out for using per month or £300 straight up front per year. The software is the best I have found for ease of use and printing for plastic models. I would be happy for £20 licence a month.
I am somewhat sympathetic with the CEO’s reply. With what you have to pay for nearly any hobby, the price is minimal. I have a couple hobbies and, by far, the price of their subscription is the least expense. And compared to what I “waste” on other things, I can’t, with any honesty, disagree with the CEO. Flake jacket is on so hit me with those 👎.
I get you too and see how it would be difficult. The delivery maybe a little harsh and out of touch though. THe CEO did send me a message after seeing this video and apologised and his actually a good guy, just said something that could have been worded better.
@@DraftID I belonged to a RC airplane club with a $50 annual membership. When we raised the rate to $75, you would have thought the world had ended. And a lot of those complaints came from members that went out for lunch each time they came to the field a couple times a week. So I can understand the CEO’s feeling that reflected, in his mind, both his pride for his product (justly deserved) and his astonishment at it being thought of as excessive. And I imagine the IT labor costs of development, maintenance and improvements is higher than most businesses. Having said that, I wish they had a lower fee for hobby users but I also don’t know how they would distinguish that. An enrollment receipt or student ID is easy but what do you use for a hobbyist besides reduced features.
While I don't think I would come out and say it, I don't think the CEO is wrong. This product has clear value that is well beyond a free version and arguably worth more than the $10-15/month people are hoping to get it for. Good luck, Shapr3d.
The CEO actually took the time and effort to make contact with me and agreed his comments were wrong at the time. I really appreciate that honesty. I also think since making this video that Shapr3D has made some great improvements that make that value more worth it. I do think I should make a follow up video to this at some point.
@@_nom_ the price is stuck in the awkward position between 'too expensive for the casual user' and 'marginally cheaper than Fusion'. Free for students and teachers, though.
@@jesinu You just answred your own argument. I think shapr3d would get so much more moeny and users wif they lowered the price since it would be more available for causal and 3d print users
@@Marco-Tusenartist based on the pricing, they are clearly targeting the professional market while trying to sweeten the deal by being cheaper than Fusion. There is probably a lot more money in the professional market but it will be a battle to get companies to replace Fusion or pay for both Fusion and Shapr. But I think they have an innovative product so it may be possible. I'm rooting for them to succeed because once they are in with the pros, they will be in a better position to cater to casual users.
@@gmodesike I did a more recent video on shapr3d and I think the cost is more justified now since it has a bunch more features like cloud syncing, multi device support, and feature history.
Since I’m not doing anything commercially, I’ll stick with onshape.
Thanks for saving me time.
Onshape is a lot more expensive! It's $1500 a year! This is $25 a month.
@@joeking433 $37 a month you mean
@@joeking433thanks to both of you guys. $25 ($300 a year) or $1500 a year for someone who is only interested in dabbling with 3d, no commercial reason. Shapr3d is not fore me.
@@joeking433 I thought OnShape allowed "x" amount of free storage and had some free limitations. I could be wrong. We tried it at my last company as an alternate to ProE and it worked well. The biggest issue is that it was all cloud based so having some security on the parts we were designing seemed to be risky. The other issue was it was way to easy for multiple engineers to check out the same part and modify it without another engineer knowing. I think that was a bug that they hopefully fixed.
Excellent video, I agree with every point in this video and the price is the only reason I unistalled Sahepr3D.
I think its worth a revisit this year. There has been a bunch of improvements, cloud cross saving, and the next big update will introduce a feature history.
Thanks for this video! Checking out a lot of videos - this was by far the most informative, easiest to digest, and presented well from someone with a similar experience level as me (experience with other commercial CAD programs). For me the main use case is for iPad modeling away from my desk, like in my truck on lunch breaks or on the couch while watching my baby (where having the laptop out isn’t really convenient due to a toddler running around). Not yet sure how it’ll play out but this definitely answered a lot of questions for me. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it. I'd like to do a follow up vid when I get a chance as Shapr3d recently had an event which showed of their cloud saving and cross platform workflow. Certainly a welcome feature being able to seamlessly work between ipad and windows PC.
@@DraftID great vid ,fuck the haters .Pls do a followup
@@detroittrickster3327 I really would like to. There are some features such as cloud saving and PC version which I would like to explore.
I like it. I saw an ad online and decided to try the free version, just for messing around at home. I'm nearly 62 but I immediately saw the potential and decided to pay the subscription fee because I have to regularly produce small parts at work and manually drafting these parts was a drag, especially when you'd have to make changes after review. I also like that there's a fair number of tutorial videos that you can follow to learn the more complex features of SHAPR. I'm hoping that they add some more features to the 2D drawing production capability. This would be useful when trying to do exploded component drawings. Overall a great program. I use it on my desktop at home with a LG 32" WQHD Nano IPS 144HZ HDR 400 curved monitor. Producing CAD drawings makes my work look so much more professional!
Thats awesome you found a good use for it :)
Well, your video mentioned the issues I struggle with too. I stumbled upon Shapr3d by accident, watched a few videos and started modelling with it. It is great on the iPad and I could see myself using this tool. However, the pricing model is what bothers me. As much as I love the tool, it is just too expensive for private use.
I appreciate the comment. Its certainly an app I would like to revisit now that you can save between devices.
WOW... having paused to install and give it a try, really wish I'd reached the part regarding the CEO responses. Tempted to delete my previous responses to your other commentors. All for a company getting its money but giving it to a person that responds to the community in such a manner isn't happening - regardless of his reply to yourself to save face and reputation.
Great video btw, subscribed for your honest approach, hope you have an amazing career!
Thank you. I have spoken to him since and he is a good guy, I think just made a bad judgement at the time. When I have time I'd love to make a follow up to this video and put more time into Shapr3D as it does has some good features. Worth a try to see what you think anyway.
I downloaded this over 2 years ago and gave up on it after a few half hearted sessions. I picked it up again a couple months ago and put in some time watching videos on it. I'm really enjoying designing on the iPad and have created a number of projects now. Even though I'm not a fan of subscription based apps, that's the direction these are going. I've used Sketchup for years and I've tried the trials of their current offerings and I'm liking the Shapr product better for my current workflow. Sure, I miss some SU features and liking some new ones that Shapr has so it's a wash for me. I'm semi retired now andthe $$ is an issue. But, I get a lot of enjoyment out of 3d modeling that I can utilize with my 3d printer and CNC so I'm gonna roll with it...
I'd rather pay once. Few companies do the model I like which is buy once and receive upgrades forever like Fruity Loops. Too bad they don't make CAD programs though.
It’s a shame the tech industry wants to subsist solely on subscriptions.
I was lucky in 2008 when Sketch Up was selling one-of -payment Licence. Even when later they moved to subscription and denied my access unless I ‘upgrade’, I still managed to get an update in 2017 without extra cost and the right to use it based on my first original licence. My claim was that the software didn’t even changed a bit since I bought it in 2008 and to pay for an upgrade wasn’t justified. I also paid the original licence to download the software in my hardware so I can use it regardless being connected to internet.
I wish these softwares companies offer the old license option again instead of subscriptions with internet dependency.
Thank you for this video! Saved me considerable lost hours learning the software, only to find out that the hobby version is unusable to 3d print. I had hoped to find a hobbyist friendly cad software for the ipad, but at that price point, shap3d isn't it.
Oh you cant 3d print with the hobby version?
@@user-jk9zr3sc5hNo doubt this is too late, might help another user though.
Hobby version .stl has the low poly resolution of the original Playstation at best, fine for sharp edged shapes but useless for anything curved.
Understand why they make us submit details, watch tutorials to showcase the product before we find out the price etc. Renting features for a hobby project that's worked on a couple times a year for that price just isn't worth the money to me personally. Yeeted the software and browser cookies - one of them is set to a decade. Left my details with them for the time being (you can request deletion) as I hope they change the subscription model and don't mind being updated if they do. I'd pay for the occasional high-res export depending on cost.
Nice product you can rent for convenience, but I'll stick to Blender and YT for tools and tuts.
Having gone through the tuts, it's easily one of the most intuitive pieces of CAD software I've seen, learning curve is a matter of minutes rather than hours assuming you remember the tutorials. That being said the hobby version exports are comically bad and the price to rent the "pro" export feature is insane for a hobbyist on a budget.
No idea about other software for iPad but if you find anything of this caliber for knocking out models for free - tap back, I'd consider an iPad, at least I'd own it.
I downloaded Sharp3D in my iPad and use it till I was fairly comfortable using it. I love it, is actually quite easy to learn. The let down is just that as a hobbyist the price of Sharp3D is just too expensive.
I love having all my designs instantly available on ipad and PC especially now that it is parametric.
probably the strongest feature.
Oh my I’m at the end of my degree and have only just heard about shapr, luckily I managed to get a year license to try and mess around with but after that I doubt I’ll be using it especially when solid works now has a hobbyist license for $99
Grats on getting to the end. Another to try out which I think Im going to be putting some time into is plasticity 3d. Very similar workflow to shapr3d but not on ipad. Quick tool for ideating designs which you could then use solidworks or fusion for the main cad stuff.
I am looking for a tablet based mobile CAD solution. The workflow looks very intuitive, but not having a feature tree is a killer argument for me. I am using SolidWorks & Fusion360 on my desktop PC, but my mobile setup will probably be then a Windows based tablet with a stylus and fusion 360.
Check out my recent video on Shapr3d and you will see feature history has been added :)
For any small business/side hustle that is a serious bargain tho…
Half price of fusion and now with history. Will have to look into it, even if I probably won’t use it on iPad much
Check out the more recent vid I did on shapr3d as I talk about the more recent additional like the history feature etc :)
Can you please do a new review video on Shapr3D? They added parametric history
Already done :) ruclips.net/video/wWJUtgLDdos/видео.htmlsi=AQg8sqiTQ-Ca3LrF
I can understand that you are frustrated over the pricing. I just figured out that for students and teaching personell you get pro free of charge. So yes I think 20€ a month is a lot but due to me mostly using an iPad I was really happy about the generous offer of the developer. Through your subscription you also support students and education.
I am using it. The pricing isn’t an issue because it’s easy to pick up. Some people are using it for a 1500 dollar 3d printer and 30 dollars for 1kg of filament so 20 dollars a month is nothing
It's worth the cost to me, I have hundreds of designs I created that were simplified with the Shapr3d workflow.
It's not worth it to those that have little use for it, or for hobby purposes It's not the best cost wise.
Thanks for your thoughts. Glad it is working for you and you might want to check out the updated video I did on Shapr3d considering the new changes etc since this video.
Hey mate, I am a boilermaker, and I want a cad program for drawing on site. I am currently using paper and pen. Would you recommend that I learn shapr3d? I have very little cad experience, and I just want something to take measurements and draw up simple structures like handrails, steps, and mezzanins. Or even just getting an initial drawing that I can take to a draftsman.
I saw your second post so ill reply to that one.
I'm hoping that the con gets improved
The con?
So $25 a month I can export to slicer software as an STL?
The free version you can export but its low quality so from what Ive heard quite faceted and not good for printing. The paid version you get full quality stl prints.
100% agree with this.
"For the cost of a few coffees a month..." definitely wont be using it beyond the EDU license. But at least i can get a grasp of general CAD designing for the time being.
I'm considering buying an iPad for this, is a 2022 iPad 10,9 inch enough for this you reckon? Or do you need something more beefy? Thx
I think it will handle without any issues considering how well it ran on my 2017 ipad pro.
I used a 22 Ipad pro which I think is the M2 and it runs fine, even the M1 ran great.
which iPad is this and what specification is needed to run this program smoothly ?
This is the M2 ipad pro. M1 onwards will run shapr3d fine.
But if I’m not mistaken, the mobile version of Fusion 360 is simply a viewer, not an editor. So working off an iPad on the fly, you’re left with… Onshape? Awsome program, but all your work is entirely public, unless you pay $1500USD (!?!?!). Any others that you like better for the iPad, that are any less? Or is it desktop or nothing?
I too was disappointed that fusion was just a viewer on mobile. I think Shapr3D is easily the best on ipad and with the new cloud sync in the latest version it makes it even more viable. I do plan to do an updated video since a lot has changed with Shapr3D.
The design and user experience of this was made for iPad. I know there bunch of apps out there that probably do more but they all seem so bloated and old.
No model tree sounds like a deal breaker.
Check out my channel for a more recent update on shapr3d where they added a history feature.
Can it check inside volume like cb ft thinking of using this for subwoofer box building
I’m actually not sure if it has model properties
After the interface redesigned they raised the price to $299. ☹️
Check out my latest video on it. I think yeah they have added to the price but also come with more features.
It’s 50+€ per month or almost 400€ per year … where did you get your pricing
USD prices on their website. But this is an old video and prices may have changed.
Answer: yes. It’s so well made. First great use of Apple Pencil I’ve experienced on iPad. I cancelled RUclips TV and paid for it easily.
The price is £40 uk pounds which is a lot of money for a hobbyist to pay out for using per month or £300 straight up front per year.
The software is the best I have found for ease of use and printing for plastic models.
I would be happy for £20 licence a month.
I am somewhat sympathetic with the CEO’s reply. With what you have to pay for nearly any hobby, the price is minimal. I have a couple hobbies and, by far, the price of their subscription is the least expense. And compared to what I “waste” on other things, I can’t, with any honesty, disagree with the CEO. Flake jacket is on so hit me with those 👎.
I get you too and see how it would be difficult. The delivery maybe a little harsh and out of touch though. THe CEO did send me a message after seeing this video and apologised and his actually a good guy, just said something that could have been worded better.
@@DraftID I belonged to a RC airplane club with a $50 annual membership. When we raised the rate to $75, you would have thought the world had ended. And a lot of those complaints came from members that went out for lunch each time they came to the field a couple times a week. So I can understand the CEO’s feeling that reflected, in his mind, both his pride for his product (justly deserved) and his astonishment at it being thought of as excessive. And I imagine the IT labor costs of development, maintenance and improvements is higher than most businesses. Having said that, I wish they had a lower fee for hobby users but I also don’t know how they would distinguish that. An enrollment receipt or student ID is easy but what do you use for a hobbyist besides reduced features.
I refuse to pay for a subscription service. I would be willing to pay a one-time fee but that’s it.
You might want to check out Plasticity. Its not an Ipad 3D modelling app, but its very similar workflow. One time fee and developing quickly.
@@DraftID I’ll check it out. Thanks
I love it, but the price it’s ridiculous
File Sync was added!
Yeah I need to check that out now that it is :)
its not worth the cost and you cant buy it outright
While I don't think I would come out and say it, I don't think the CEO is wrong. This product has clear value that is well beyond a free version and arguably worth more than the $10-15/month people are hoping to get it for. Good luck, Shapr3d.
The CEO actually took the time and effort to make contact with me and agreed his comments were wrong at the time. I really appreciate that honesty. I also think since making this video that Shapr3D has made some great improvements that make that value more worth it. I do think I should make a follow up video to this at some point.
That's bull. It's $25USD a month on the yearly. $38USD a month if you pay monthly. Way too much.
@@_nom_ the price is stuck in the awkward position between 'too expensive for the casual user' and 'marginally cheaper than Fusion'.
Free for students and teachers, though.
@@jesinu You just answred your own argument. I think shapr3d would get so much more moeny and users wif they lowered the price since it would be more available for causal and 3d print users
@@Marco-Tusenartist based on the pricing, they are clearly targeting the professional market while trying to sweeten the deal by being cheaper than Fusion. There is probably a lot more money in the professional market but it will be a battle to get companies to replace Fusion or pay for both Fusion and Shapr. But I think they have an innovative product so it may be possible. I'm rooting for them to succeed because once they are in with the pros, they will be in a better position to cater to casual users.
No it is not
it's 25$ per month - good grief
Are you saying that's good or bad?
@@DraftID not too bad
@@gmodesike I did a more recent video on shapr3d and I think the cost is more justified now since it has a bunch more features like cloud syncing, multi device support, and feature history.
For $300 per year I’ll use my Solidworks license from my office. It’s better anyway. Damn shame because I’d like to use it for home hobby use.
Yeah I get inventor from work so use that primarily
YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO SHOW A DESIGN IN SHAPR3D AND GO AT A SPEED
IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW, AT LEAST FOR ME, THANK YOU
This video isn't a tutorial or follow along video, the design I'm doing is simply just visual aide while I am talking about shapr3d.