Speaking of Alonso, he takes the big events extremely serious. I was alongside Barrichello and Alonso during the 2020 virtual le mans we practiced and worked on the setup 4-5 hours everyday for 3 weeks before the race. Sometimes even as late as 1 or 2 am, guy is humble and awesome to work with. As for the 17th place finish, it came down to the organizers giving us a 'drive through penalty' literally a few meters before pitting in our box for fuel, which meant we weren't able to take on fuel due to the game prioritizing the penalty, so we basically had to retire. 3.5 hours later there was a Red flag due to server outage and we were allowed to re-enter the race but 12-13 laps down but we still pushed on from 30th to 17th.
As a driver who heavily leans on the sim to develop our real prototype race car, I am always dissapointed to see well known drivers that disregard how benificial it can be if used correctly. The value is undeniable, and it's easy to see the link between the young drivers that constantly over perform and their involvment in sim racing. Of course it can never "feel" the same. That is not the point and a ignorant way to look at it. You need to learnto use the sim the same way you learn to drive a real car, and you need to reach a certain skill level before you can transfer the experiences. As a tool to hone your skills, practice dealing with pressure and get used to operating on the highest level, it's incredibly valuable.
I once did a hosted session with a lot of the big names like Max, SVG, Catsburg etc. It was an amazing experience. I was nowhere, but watching Max and SVG fight for the fastest lap at Bathurst in a GT3 car was amazing. SVG wiped the floor with Max in the end, btw :P
I remember Jacques Villeneuve on a controller and laptop somewhere waiting for an airplane, 6th place twice in a Legends race against everyone being on sim rigs and at least Logitecs. He spoke how in the 90' there were tracks that he never participared in, so to prepare himself and learn corners before an F1 race, he would play the track in some game(s) on a PC. The true pioneer of sim gamers, handy with a controller 25+ years later! Search: The Race All-Star Series, Rd 5 , timestamp about 2:30:35 Also, for a wholesome laugh, search: Barrichello's dog interrupts the live stream for some attention
the big f1 teams have simulators that are completely custom made to their cars, they do train with those because have 1to1 physics simulation for that car or at least as close as they can get... and no consumer could run that shit because its one car on track and it still needs a serverrig of pc power to run
Say what you want about max but he bleeds racing, hes the world champion but still finds time to be the most active f1 sim racing driver, he goes home after racing and sim races. What a legend
Saw a partial highlight of what must be Gregor Huttu(sp?). I remember this guy from the GPL days setting crazy sub-8min nurburgring times. Good times indeed. :)
I’ve seen Kanaan race super-well on the Fittipaldi brothers’ twitch channel which does a lot of iRacing. They get a decent amount of professionals in their lobby.
@@torbinzix1 a lot of irl racing drivers struggle with simracing as they dont feel the car as much as they're used to. but yeah I agree its not surprising coming from Fernando lol
We will see if Daniel will get into sim racing now that he is a reserve but wouldn’t be a shocker if he stayed away from it still. Being in a lobby with him would be fun with his humor.
Allonso got banned in iracing for a period for smurfing lol (he's back now), and Max uses Jos's account for practice, have seen him a handful of times in IMSA practice sessions
It's interesting to hear that Mick doesn't see the value in simulators. His dad notoriously suffered from motion sickness, and those within the newly re-branded Mercedes team (Ross Brawn et al.) cited it as the single biggest component of Rosberg being consistently ahead of Michael from 2010-2012 (Michael essentially having to do all setup work once he arrived at a circuit whereas Rosberg merely fine tuned an already tested setup). I always wonder how Michael would have done were continuous in-car testing not banned after the 07 season.
He already outperformed Rosberg in Qualifying in 2012. despite having had a clear disadvantage. And to be fair, he probably didn't grew up with videogames while Mick probably did and does play some. Would be a surprise if he doesn't at all. So the step going to simulation isn't as big anymore.
@@PresidentScrooge, 2012 was Michael's final year, and it was clear that he was finally becoming comfortable with that Mercedes (his Monaco pole that year perhaps being the best demonstration). The biggest gap was in 2010 where it was quite clear Robserg had the edge thanks to sim work (Michael was usually miles off in FP1 and 2, and he would steadily claw his way back through FP3 and quali by steadily adjusting aspects of the setup, albeit at a severe cost of laps and time spent on track). I'm sure Michael also pushed Mick to kart in his spare time as a training tool (much as Fernando, Kimi, Lewis, and he used to do). Unsurprisingly, Sainz is the same way. He has somewhat of an aversion to sims and spends his spare time karting, and he also has an old-school world champion father. But, it's clear across the board that the drivers who spend their time in the sims are beating their teammates.
Or is Mick just saying that cause he doesn’t want to be hassled / trolled online. We all know how his family feels about privacy 🤷🏻♂️ I wouldn’t blame him if he did decide to take this route 👍
@@CY078, that's a hypothesis I hadn't considered. Hopefully, he does see the value in it. There's a very obvious correlation between the drivers who are underperforming this year and the drivers who dislike/eschew sim racing in favor of training/karting, etc. If Alonso can learn to see the value in sim racing, I'm sure Mick can as well.
Appreciated the work put into this video- this is a rare RUclips vid because it’s actually well worth watching. I look forward to checking out your other videos. While I love F1 content, I’m also trying to find an ultimate sim rig or two for the house. A small improvement would have been a video text overlay of the technology/vendors you’ve mentioned. Very well done. Thank you.
I love it when peoppe say oh you dont need that much force for realistic. What people seem to forget the nm from the car in real life is a bit different due to the actual weight of the car being there. Its wny lando, max and others you can see its got some torwue going and lando said he has it up to the exact feel of his car in real life. He doesnt hsve it maxed but I believe he had it around 15nm. I know that leclerc has his set pretty high. So yeah makes sense and thats not weak thats a good amount of force to always sim race with. You saw how violent the forces were for leclerc even here. Its crazy how good lando and max are. Anybody over a 40% win rate is nuts. Super rare in iracing. Doesnt daniel sim race now? I believe so lol. Many young drivers from all over are now sim racing its amazing to dee and it will keep this hobby alive for a long long time. Its one of the only hobbies ive been apart of that I just know I dont have to worry about it going away or dieing off.
"Needless to say he takes this stuff very seriously, with the base alone costing over £3500." - About Max's gaming setup. Cool video, but this comment made me chuckle! That's the same as a person with a 5000 € monthly salary spending 3.5 € on a hobby. Doesn't seem worth a blimey when you put it into proportions!
I was quite convinced for a day or two that a PSN player with the user name “Lew_04” was Lewis Hamilton but I believe I saw proof of him unlocking a GT7 trophy when the real Hamilton was in the Mercedes racing earlier this year… but I may have been mislead by time zone differences (I don’t know if trophy unlock times are displayed in the viewer’s time zone or the owner’s time zone, as I am in America, I wasn’t sure).
It would be nice if F1 2023 actually worked. Asetto, automobilista, forza, and many other all work with force feedback. F1 2023 doesn’t. It cost 10 times what I paid for other games and it’s not ready.
Little personal opinion here: Awesome that some drivers connect with fans thru sim and stuff. But honestly I totally get when a driver mentions that doesn't have the interest in sim racing and prefer the real stuff. Sim is awesome to keep senses sharp but, ultimately, its for us who really like to play games or don't have money to maintain a race car, let's be real haha.
He's back on the LB SimSteering Ultimate at all recent competitions, such as the Heineken F1 Esports championship. Is this for the rig he has on the plane? Or, the one he has at home?
Now since max win the world championship, i wish gran turismo would release another DLC for gt 7 with name Max verstappen SUPERMAX time trial challenge
Thanks for your reply Since commenting I’ve discovered iracing Is that what the pros use in their actual race training or is that something else again ?
@@KoeiNL I think it's very polite if people address you the way you prefer it. In England the Sir-title is a big deal as I understand so people call you Sir Lancelot ;-) As you know in The Netherlands we don't give a flying fuck about titles so we don't even bother. I think it's a culture thing if anything and that's okay.
I don't remember his name, but I raced against a le mans winner in iRacing. He had apparently just joined iRacing and was working his way up which is why he was racing against plebs like me. Everyone in the lobby started freaking out and just chewed his ear off before the race started, unsurprisingly he clobbered us all.
I think Albon is very active in Gran Turismo and Forza as well. He even has a RUclips channel named Super GT. Great guy he is.
Hello viewers
@@superluismigueL100, "Alex Albon here"
That Isn’t albon my friend
@@lucasbarrel That was a joke, my friend.
@@lucasbarrel obviously a joke 😂
Speaking of Alonso, he takes the big events extremely serious. I was alongside Barrichello and Alonso during the 2020 virtual le mans we practiced and worked on the setup 4-5 hours everyday for 3 weeks before the race. Sometimes even as late as 1 or 2 am, guy is humble and awesome to work with.
As for the 17th place finish, it came down to the organizers giving us a 'drive through penalty' literally a few meters before pitting in our box for fuel, which meant we weren't able to take on fuel due to the game prioritizing the penalty, so we basically had to retire. 3.5 hours later there was a Red flag due to server outage and we were allowed to re-enter the race but 12-13 laps down but we still pushed on from 30th to 17th.
@Jonas Jonaitis just outside the top 10, was a poor qualifying since we focused only on racepace in practice. We were top 5 racepace easily
He is also known to do Formula Vee at certain tracks. I’ve raced against him once. He was very fast.
U guys forgot to mention Alonso is an absolute monster on Iracing now. Hes nearly got 6k irating now
Pretty easy when you've raced the same 15 tracks for 15 years.
@@CobraAce04 yeah i raced him once in the vees, probably the funnest race i've ever done, only kept up with him because of how op slipstream is
I watched Max and his Team Redline co-drivers lap the ENTIRE field at the 2021 iRacing Bathurst 12hr. He is the real deal!
As a driver who heavily leans on the sim to develop our real prototype race car, I am always dissapointed to see well known drivers that disregard how benificial it can be if used correctly. The value is undeniable, and it's easy to see the link between the young drivers that constantly over perform and their involvment in sim racing. Of course it can never "feel" the same. That is not the point and a ignorant way to look at it. You need to learnto use the sim the same way you learn to drive a real car, and you need to reach a certain skill level before you can transfer the experiences. As a tool to hone your skills, practice dealing with pressure and get used to operating on the highest level, it's incredibly valuable.
Holy cow, Seb’s rig is bonkers 😳
One time I loaded into a gt3 practice session at Spa on iRacing to some guy screaming the lyrics to Super Max. Turns out Max was there
Sounds like good times were had by all... maybe not Max though
I once did a hosted session with a lot of the big names like Max, SVG, Catsburg etc. It was an amazing experience. I was nowhere, but watching Max and SVG fight for the fastest lap at Bathurst in a GT3 car was amazing. SVG wiped the floor with Max in the end, btw :P
I remember Jacques Villeneuve on a controller and laptop somewhere waiting for an airplane, 6th place twice in a Legends race against everyone being on sim rigs and at least Logitecs. He spoke how in the 90' there were tracks that he never participared in, so to prepare himself and learn corners before an F1 race, he would play the track in some game(s) on a PC. The true pioneer of sim gamers, handy with a controller 25+ years later!
Search: The Race All-Star Series, Rd 5 , timestamp about 2:30:35
Also, for a wholesome laugh, search: Barrichello's dog interrupts the live stream for some attention
Zhou has made appearances in lando’s recent f122 quadrant videos
Damn you could have gave Max some redemption with his perfect run at the Bathurst 12hr in February
I’m surprised it’s not just staple training
I read somewhere that minimum time in SIM work is being mandated in new F1 driver contracts. Maybe saw it in Jenson Button’s latest book.
the big f1 teams have simulators that are completely custom made to their cars, they do train with those because have 1to1 physics simulation for that car or at least as close as they can get... and no consumer could run that shit because its one car on track and it still needs a serverrig of pc power to run
Vettel set up is what we all imagine a millionaire racing driver would own
Say what you want about max but he bleeds racing, hes the world champion but still finds time to be the most active f1 sim racing driver, he goes home after racing and sim races. What a legend
He's doing huge things for the sim racing scene and we're all about it
Apparently he has a sim rig on his private jet also, and have been seen in lobbies 3h after winning a real F1 race. Absolute mad man & legend
Ocon was active in GT Sport as far as I know
Saw a partial highlight of what must be Gregor Huttu(sp?). I remember this guy from the GPL days setting crazy sub-8min nurburgring times. Good times indeed. :)
The most prolific iRacing pro just happens to become the dominating real life world champion? Must be a total coincidence. :D
Mick: If I can’t wreck my rig like I do the cars then I don’t want it.
Valtteri racing in good old LifeForSpeed .... those were the times
Wow. You put in your homework on this one. Very good.
Thanks!
Not F1, but I once got into an iRacing practice lobby at Spa with Tony Kanaan. That was pretty cool
I’ve seen Kanaan race super-well on the Fittipaldi brothers’ twitch channel which does a lot of iRacing. They get a decent amount of professionals in their lobby.
Oh yeah just adding , Verstappen have won iRacing special event at Bathurst 12 hour 2022
1:50 thats simucube what Russell has there. not fanatec
Alonso was in my lobby for a formula vee race in iracing a few weeks ago, he’s pretty good tbf
You mean to say a professional racing driver is pretty good at racing...🤯
@@torbinzix1 a lot of irl racing drivers struggle with simracing as they dont feel the car as much as they're used to. but yeah I agree its not surprising coming from Fernando lol
i raced against him to in the vee
@@torbinzix1 I didn’t expect it in a formula vee car tbh, plus not all drivers are good in virtual racing
@@rmelv Fernando basically drives only the Formula vee xd
We will see if Daniel will get into sim racing now that he is a reserve but wouldn’t be a shocker if he stayed away from it still. Being in a lobby with him would be fun with his humor.
Used to race Lando and Max on iRacing few times a week but they are much less active now
Allonso got banned in iracing for a period for smurfing lol (he's back now), and Max uses Jos's account for practice, have seen him a handful of times in IMSA practice sessions
It's interesting to hear that Mick doesn't see the value in simulators. His dad notoriously suffered from motion sickness, and those within the newly re-branded Mercedes team (Ross Brawn et al.) cited it as the single biggest component of Rosberg being consistently ahead of Michael from 2010-2012 (Michael essentially having to do all setup work once he arrived at a circuit whereas Rosberg merely fine tuned an already tested setup). I always wonder how Michael would have done were continuous in-car testing not banned after the 07 season.
He already outperformed Rosberg in Qualifying in 2012. despite having had a clear disadvantage. And to be fair, he probably didn't grew up with videogames while Mick probably did and does play some. Would be a surprise if he doesn't at all. So the step going to simulation isn't as big anymore.
@@PresidentScrooge, 2012 was Michael's final year, and it was clear that he was finally becoming comfortable with that Mercedes (his Monaco pole that year perhaps being the best demonstration). The biggest gap was in 2010 where it was quite clear Robserg had the edge thanks to sim work (Michael was usually miles off in FP1 and 2, and he would steadily claw his way back through FP3 and quali by steadily adjusting aspects of the setup, albeit at a severe cost of laps and time spent on track). I'm sure Michael also pushed Mick to kart in his spare time as a training tool (much as Fernando, Kimi, Lewis, and he used to do). Unsurprisingly, Sainz is the same way. He has somewhat of an aversion to sims and spends his spare time karting, and he also has an old-school world champion father. But, it's clear across the board that the drivers who spend their time in the sims are beating their teammates.
Or is Mick just saying that cause he doesn’t want to be hassled / trolled online. We all know how his family feels about privacy 🤷🏻♂️
I wouldn’t blame him if he did decide to take this route 👍
@@CY078, that's a hypothesis I hadn't considered. Hopefully, he does see the value in it. There's a very obvious correlation between the drivers who are underperforming this year and the drivers who dislike/eschew sim racing in favor of training/karting, etc. If Alonso can learn to see the value in sim racing, I'm sure Mick can as well.
Appreciated the work put into this video- this is a rare RUclips vid because it’s actually well worth watching. I look forward to checking out your other videos. While I love F1 content, I’m also trying to find an ultimate sim rig or two for the house. A small improvement would have been a video text overlay of the technology/vendors you’ve mentioned. Very well done. Thank you.
Raced against Alonso and Piastri couple weeks ago on iracing crazy experience
Always a bit surreal! How did you get on?
Ocon rammed a few guys on streams in GT Sport, got a sportsmanship rating reset, then disappeared
i literally was on amazon about to order and i was listing to the video as i was checking out and he said "the seat was not included" smh
Been there done that
I love it when peoppe say oh you dont need that much force for realistic. What people seem to forget the nm from the car in real life is a bit different due to the actual weight of the car being there. Its wny lando, max and others you can see its got some torwue going and lando said he has it up to the exact feel of his car in real life. He doesnt hsve it maxed but I believe he had it around 15nm. I know that leclerc has his set pretty high. So yeah makes sense and thats not weak thats a good amount of force to always sim race with. You saw how violent the forces were for leclerc even here.
Its crazy how good lando and max are. Anybody over a 40% win rate is nuts. Super rare in iracing.
Doesnt daniel sim race now? I believe so lol.
Many young drivers from all over are now sim racing its amazing to dee and it will keep this hobby alive for a long long time. Its one of the only hobbies ive been apart of that I just know I dont have to worry about it going away or dieing off.
Esteban Ocon is also the French ambassador for Gran Turismo seven if you look up a video of my GT rig you’ll see he has a set up with a logitech G 29
Jaques Villeneuve really loves simracing as well, LOL
With an Xbox controller what a G
the endurance crash was a software fault max was driving so well that it somehow managed the break the ingame physics causing it go outta hand
Alexander alon plays all the time. He is just super gt
I like that they all played with jimmy broadbent
Robert Kubica is also active simracer despite having only one hand
i came across rubens barrichello in a iracing race. somebody called him a noob over voice chat
Funny thing is that Lando and Daniel had a McLaren Roblox event.
"Needless to say he takes this stuff very seriously, with the base alone costing over £3500." - About Max's gaming setup.
Cool video, but this comment made me chuckle! That's the same as a person with a 5000 € monthly salary spending 3.5 € on a hobby. Doesn't seem worth a blimey when you put it into proportions!
Don't forget Fernando Alonso work on game grid
I have the same wheel as Mr.Goatifi himself. No excuse to be slow now.
Zhou has actually appeared in some of quadrant's youtube virtual gps, along with lando and lawson
Lawson at it again. Getting a spot in F1 by making Lando and Zhou get thrown out /s
7:45 what the hell is that seating position 🥲
I was quite convinced for a day or two that a PSN player with the user name “Lew_04” was Lewis Hamilton but I believe I saw proof of him unlocking a GT7 trophy when the real Hamilton was in the Mercedes racing earlier this year… but I may have been mislead by time zone differences (I don’t know if trophy unlock times are displayed in the viewer’s time zone or the owner’s time zone, as I am in America, I wasn’t sure).
George in the pictures has simucube base, not fanatec,you can see that from the kill-switch too on the right side, the ascher wheel tho is correct
what wheel is Geroge using at 1:55?
The base is £3500, you can get them for£2300. The steering wheel is pointless. It costs the same as the base
Maybe Mick should have spend more time in simulators
I think thr drivers who are not gaming are missing out , as it sharpens your reflexes, and improves cornering skills , just look at Max. 😢
It would be nice if F1 2023 actually worked. Asetto, automobilista, forza, and many other all work with force feedback. F1 2023 doesn’t. It cost 10 times what I paid for other games and it’s not ready.
I would like to see Barrichello in this list
Daniel should have done some sim racing...
Cool video. Do you think you people would be able to the same video for ex F1 drivers too?
That’s a very cool idea! We shall look into it 😎
@@TraxionGG sweet all I know is that Jaques Villeneuve was an early adopter of virtual racing I think
He was indeed.... And he is mega fast. even on a controller!
Perez has a cube controls CSX2 wheel not a formula sport ... love that wheel 🙂
You also forgot Mick, he is Racing on Iracing.
Little personal opinion here: Awesome that some drivers connect with fans thru sim and stuff. But honestly I totally get when a driver mentions that doesn't have the interest in sim racing and prefer the real stuff. Sim is awesome to keep senses sharp but, ultimately, its for us who really like to play games or don't have money to maintain a race car, let's be real haha.
Completely agree, it doesn’t have to be for everyone!😊
Then compare team mates, who sim race and who dont, and their results in real life. Every simracing F1 driver has better results, than non simracer
@@Pucis666 bottas runs lfs, lewis don't lol. It's the opposite, better drivers rocks more even in sim.
@@jgbalves Thats one out of 10 teams...
Alonso has GSI Formula Pro Elite as of 1 March 2022.
Man. Watching Ocon pushing those weights with his noodle arms, using pretty much the worse for ever, really makes me grit my teeth.
Lewis Hamilton: Enjoys Sim Racing
George Russel: Cool Sim Racer
Max Verstappen: Top Tier Sim Racer
Sergio Perez: Z A M B O N I
Zhou does open lobbies whit
Quadrant'
Already outdated lol, Max is also playing on a Simucube now, wide decision.
He's back on the LB SimSteering Ultimate at all recent competitions, such as the Heineken F1 Esports championship. Is this for the rig he has on the plane? Or, the one he has at home?
@@flyingphoenix113 he doesn’t have one on his Plane, it was Misinterpreted…
10:50 Unusually far from the screen? Does that offer advantages?
3:46 this aged poorly
Sebastien vettel work on gran turismo 5 redbull x 1
Lando has switched to Logitech G pro btw [like a lot of us]
3:47 weeeeeeeeell
Now since max win the world championship, i wish gran turismo would release another DLC for gt 7 with name
Max verstappen SUPERMAX time trial challenge
I will definitely buy the game if they do that!
It’s not a formula pro for checo that a CSX2 🤦♂️
Excuse my ignorance but which game are they playing here ??
They are playing many different games across the video! Do you have any specific moments that you are wondering about?😊
Thanks for your reply
Since commenting I’ve discovered iracing
Is that what the pros use in their actual race training or is that something else again ?
1307 starts, 550 wins, C Class... What does he race?
Almost all present drivers of f1 is driving the sim
max is just taking driving lesseons, so he can keep car on the road
max's setups is more waaaayyy more than 10k lol
Max OWNS Team Redline…
Are the other F1 drivers apart from Max just smurfing around on low irating accounts?
13:24 did indeed not age so well
Ah yes. Now I understand why mick crashes so much
pieeeeeere gasssly!!!!!
Why do you say Sir Lewis Hamilton but not Officer Max Verstappen? He's an Officier of the Order of Orange-Nassau, which outranks Lewis' rank.
Who cares, Max doesn't want to be addressed with his title.
@@braindump1446 does Lewis demand it? Lets at least try to treat them equally yes?
@@KoeiNL I think it's very polite if people address you the way you prefer it. In England the Sir-title is a big deal as I understand so people call you Sir Lancelot ;-) As you know in The Netherlands we don't give a flying fuck about titles so we don't even bother. I think it's a culture thing if anything and that's okay.
the reason you know simracing isn't close to reality is that a 14 year old with a playstation controller are 2 sec a lap faster than a real f1 driver
That'd a playstation game not an actual sim
they are all games but ok
Mick Schumacher ? What a joke
Mick has no passion for racing and definitely should have practised more.
I don't remember his name, but I raced against a le mans winner in iRacing. He had apparently just joined iRacing and was working his way up which is why he was racing against plebs like me.
Everyone in the lobby started freaking out and just chewed his ear off before the race started, unsurprisingly he clobbered us all.
To all the f1 drivers letting ur rigs go to waste give them away