How much does it really cost to Paint my Classic Car - FOLLOW UP!
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- We had a great reaction to our last video on costings - this is just a brief (promise!) follow up.
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I struggle to comprehend the mindset that criticises highly skilled hands, at £65 per hour in 2024.
Main stealerships were charging more than that in the late 90s for very basic service work, which they'd get the 16 year old apprentices to do.
As of the time of video release Mercedes dealers are charging iro £160 per hour and 'service' work is far more straightforward on new cars compared to car restoration techniques. Just goes to show how undervalued repair and craft is to other ways of making money.
Hi guys new to your channel from down under . I totally understand where you are coming from and in reply to others that watch your channel . If you own a classic car and you want it renovated it helps if you can do some of the work your self , gives you pride of ownership . Any one can give your car to a renovation co and wright a cheque but you end up with a car better than new , but no chance of getting your investment back . So think before you invest .
I was actually shocked when you said £65 p/h. I thought it would be way higher than that.
My local garage charges €100 p/h. So £65 seems very reasonable.
Looking forward to seeing the lotus video and watching your channel grow. From the work I've seen of yours, you deserve it :0)
Well said ! There is a HUGE amount of skill in doing your work, and it's taken you years to learn that. Let people go for a "cheap" paint job first to learn that they are a false economy.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to the point I made in the first vid. Really appreciate it :) Looking forward to your future vids.
This is the problem some people seem to have , the only cars that are “investments “cannot be used they spend the vast majority of the time locked away. They are a commodity to be traded at the right time for profit (or loss) anyone who has/loves a classic car that they wish to use must understand that they will cost much more to maintain/restore than they will be “worth “. The value in non investment classics is the satisfaction of owning,driving and preserving .
Can't recall how it was in the UK (I buggered off 33 years ago), but in the US body shops charge X$/labor plus X$/materials by the hour, plus parts. Even people like Chip Foose charge that way.
Fully agree with everything discussed, if people want a quality job, then they must be prepared to pay for the overheads, time, skill and experience! If not then slap on the isopon and get out the rattle can.
Thanks for the additional explanation.
I think some people are stuck in a supposed golden age, where pressed steel fell off trees and everyone had a mate who was handy with a welder and his cousin had a spray booth in the back yard. The reality of course is that lots of jobs were bodged, just enough to get through the next mot, and it’s rotting metal over rotting metal hidden beneath a thick helping of filler and waxoyl. My father-in-law didn’t get this at first, until the outer sill and one side of the floor came out of his Consul Capri, to reveal a Swiss cheese chassis, and a car that would fall apart if you sneezed anywhere near it, cost to get it sorted (result with patina not including interior or paint) approx 20k, with a nice looking restored one on eBay for 17k, is it worth it? Almost. 44 tears of ownership and lots of memories, but the time it would take was the real problem, so it went to someone who would diy it, over many years.
Those of us who know you from XJ Restorations know you’re the best there is. The negative nay sayers will just have to bugger off…
Wonderful. I wouldn't buy a new car either. But now I can look forward to seeing what you will do with a Lotus Elan.
£65/hr seems pretty good value to me!
Completely agree with you.
I daily drive a slightly tatty SL 500 ('94). If I didn't do my own work it would be prohibitively expensive.
£65 is quite a reasonable hourly rate.
(not watched the prev vid yet)
when insuring a classic car think how much it would cost to have it rebuilt from scratch, thats your price to insure it for.
even charging per hour like you do on collision work would be ludicrously expensive, i've done both collision and restoration work, it needs practical experience to properly
charge for restoration work.
yep, unless you can do the work yourself or you have some relatively deep pockets 90% of classic cars would be write offs from a restoration, and thats probably 100% of the common ones that most people have.
£65 per hour is pretty reasonable 👍
I have a question, where i will be wanting a roof rack chrome plated whats the best type to get, i remember way back talking to a tow truck driver that the type they use on hydraulic rams was best for something that has a working use, i think it may have been triple plated?
When a main dealer charges you a minimum of 30 minutes labour £90 inclusive of VAT plus parts for changing a light bulb I don’t think anyone can say that your labour rates are high…as you say most classic vehicles are simply uneconomical repairs repairing something 50+ years old is never as straightforward as repairing newer vehicles.
I think anyone that considers a classic car as an investment is deluded, even working on the car yourself at zero labour cost the chance of getting a profit on it is remote, but if you have a car that is your special memory car that has been retired to the barn for the past 30 years, it probably cost very little back then, but now, even a basic car like capri is worth £5000, so the only way one can make a "profit", (which is not really the purpose of owning a classic car), is to restore a car you have owned since it was worthless, and is actually worth spending money on to bring back to how you remember it, I can remember friends driving around XK 120s and MG TF that as soon as a minor fault occurred they would simply drive it to the scrap yard, dump it and buy another similar vehicle.Stat safe! Chris B.
Over the last decade some people have made a killing on classic cars, but it seems those days are over for the foreseeable future.
Try £350.00 per hour, that Audi is the going rate the main agent charged me to have radar sensor realigned two weeks ago. I was charged two hours, Eye watering.
Many public sector employees believe they deserve more money. Perhaps they are correct. Quite what this has to do with bodyshops escapes me.
It's up to the customer to decide whether his classic car is worth the investment of a quality respray. All you can do as a professional is ask the potential client if he really think his not so valuable classic is worth investing in. He might be better off buying a better car...
65 is a fair price...what people don't understand how long it takes to get good at it with layers of skin rubbing filing getting burnt cut hands dust in every part of you.
A teacher with £50k of student debt made that choice. I have zero sympathy with that argument. They could have got a trade and done something with their talents and maybe been paid during their education. You don't go into teaching or classic car restoration to make a fortune, it's a vocation. Their argument will be based off the supposed value to society; a society that needs stuff fixed as much as it needs to educate in order to continue.
Put your hourly rate up!
You don't own a Classic car and not expect it not to cost you! You pay for the the enjoyment you get out of driving it!
£65 per hour, what’s the problem ? Take your car be it Ford, BM, Merc etc and see what they charge per hour !!! You won’t see much change out of £100 per hour - just saying !
It is a known fact that some Mercedes Benz and BMW dealerships are as high as £180 per hour now. Change from £100 would be a real result!