Damn! I need this. I was on the edge of writing my own "battery driver" sp to speak. I presently use Endurance, but it doesn't prevent charging past 80%. Thanks for sharing this info. Life saver!
Aldente is an amazing app. I keep it set at 80% and then do 2 drains per month (down to 15% and back to 100%) to keep battery calibration readings on point.
More specifically, being closer to 100% or 0% damages the battery and it has to lower its own capacity to stop itself from... you know.. becoming a spicy lil fire pillow!
@@thomas_xsg That's where Aldente comes in. You literally nail your battery percentage to 50% all the time. Not float it between 50% to 80% or 50% to 0%. Just 50%. Then have control when you want it to charge all the way to 100% at your jurisdiction.
Mac already does this with “optimized charging” by trickle charging after 80% and capping max capacity to extend battery longevity. This would’ve been useful 2 years ago tho
If you are using your macbook just on a desk plugged or just turned off its best to keep it around 55 to 60 percent , more only if you will take it away from charger at some point
basically we limit ourselves to 80% battery so that in 2 years it'll be at 80% . when I saw a person stat it as this I stopped worrying about it, plus I have apple care so in few years if battery is issue ill just replace it.
@@NicholasCoulter System settings > Battery > Battery Health > Optimized Battery Charging When it's active, It'll say Power Source: Power Adapter in the menu bar Battery pane The app is likely using part of the script implemented for this feature to swap the power source from Battery to the Power Adapter.
@@NicholasCoulter It's whenever you frequently charge, it creates an ML model for predicting your charging patterns and activates it when you charge frequently. It also slows charging between 80% and 100%. This coupled with the fact that the 100% you see on the software is not the actual 100% of the battery (as is true for most devices nowadays) makes apps like this and other battery saving regimens completely unnecessary and obsolete. Maybe these were necessary in the early 2000s and 2010s, but software has outgrown all these limitations.
I’ve been using Al Dente since I got my MacBook Air more than a year ago. I typically keep the charge at around 50 % and only charge it up to 60 or 70 % when I need to take it to university or somewhere else where I cannot charge it. It’s currently at 99 % battery health, which I think is quite good for a battery that’s more than a year old. (My old Asus laptop fell below 80 % battery health after like 3 years of being at 90 - 100 % most of the time.)
@@MonsieurGuy Not always, i keep it often between 50-70 when mostly at home (still only used on battery, barely used on AC only under long render load with the 140W original power brick), but when im going to university for a longer day or so i give it 100% as well, 80-90% at least in case i really need it. I think i preserved the battery the most by using a 20W iPhone power brick 99% of the time to charge the MacBook Pro, always charged unused btw and used on battery.
@@MonsieurGuy because using the 16" macbook with the 20W iphone brick is even harming the battery, the battery is used as puffer battery for the power spikes the 20W brick cant deliver. But without using the MacBook, the 20W power adapter give the battery with a nice and healthy charge with 0,2C. I would just avoid charge speeds above 0,5C (or
@@MonsieurGuy But i also have to say... its already at over 210 cycles and the health is actually at 91%, once dropped even down to 87%. Still i dont feel any runtime reduction, it still holds up easily 5-15 hours on a full charge in real world use and the main battery drainer is the display (in hdr brightness)
i was reading on reddit that al dente causes problems to macbook. sometimes it'll shut down your computer in the middle of something. so I removed it and just monitor it manually
Mac does this already natively in the settings where it doesn’t charge the machine past 80% when enabled unless you manually tell it to charge to 100%.
this is very helpful. i usually have to leave it plugged in for weeks at a time to get it to lower to 80% while plugged in. apple should just add this capability 🙄
They should. Like many things on Windows you don't need an app. Most PC OEMs offer the ability to not charge past 80%. Samsung offers it in their phones too.
PLEASE READ THIS ANYONE WHO IS PLANNING ON DOING IT: Every 2 months, allow your battery to go to 100% and drain it to around 5% so it can calibrate itself. If you do this FOREVER, it will actually do more harm to your battery
Have actually done this for past 4 years and at least for me, this is not true. I've had my battery mostly between 40-60% and battery healthy is excellent. Couple times a year I would charge it to full but never to empty. I just use it at home 99% of the time. There is theory and then there is actual results. What you said might be true and it couldn't hurt to follow your advice.
I hate to burst everybody's bubble but manufacturers usually take these things into account when designing the device. There are other anticonsumer practices that they do that no app can really fix.
I tried using Al dente for 6 months in 2021 when I got the m1 MBA. I'm pretty sure it messes with your built in MacBook battery management becuz after 6 months my battery health dropped to 93% from 100%, even though I rarely outside of 20-80%
Been using Al Dente since I got my M1 MBA as well, and after more than a year my battery health is sitting at 99 %. What did you set the charge limiter to?
@@azizcalskan5662 IMHO, it doesn't matter what the limit is. It's the sailing mode that matters the most. I guess the OP uses the free version and made a stoopid complain
@@azizcalskan5662 I typically charge it just a little over 50 % and then set the limit to a value below 50 %. This way I’m very close to 50 % but don’t experience trickle charging (I use the free version so I don’t have access to the sailing mode). Whenever I need to go somewhere I just set it to about 60 or 70 % a few hours before heading out.
MacOS will still assume you want to operate within the full range of capacity, it just tries to plan charging adaptively so the battery spends a minimal amount of time below 20% and above 80%. Aldente is a more aggressive lockout that you have to manually override. It will be MUCH better for the battery in the long run (lithium batteries basically don’t degrade at all when kept in that range), but you use it with the knowledge that you’re completely cutting out about 40% of battery capacity. Apple would probably catch a lot of PR flack by making your power management behave like this, even if it were hidden behind a setting.
i dont believe it, 9 years ago, macbook use intel cpu and has the same battery life as a normal laptop, i would believe you if its android or iphone, stii using my old samsung phone after 8 years, it has 4gb of ram and 128GB internal and everything is fine minus the screen cracks, bought it in 2015, updated to android 9 pie.
Just curious: I happened to watch your video on battery management for MacBook yesterday, and if I remember correctly you advised to avoid external app and rely on MacOs optimization, is the situation changed?
Yes, I have changed my mind on Al Dente in particular. At the time I wasn't sure if it was something I could recommend. However, that video was made over 2 years ago, and while the information within that video is still correct, I now have no issues recommending Al Dente (either the free or paid version) if you want to keep your battery at a certain percentage for whatever reason. It's open source and hasn't caused any issues in the several years it's been available. macOS will "try" to optimize charging and keep the battery at an optimal percentage, but again, in the 2 years since that video I've realized it often doesn't work very well... Rarely do I see it occurring on my own MacBook. It works best if you have a set routine, e.g. use your MacBook until 10pm at night, put the MacBook to sleep, start using it again at 8am etc. If you use it randomly throughout the day, optimized charging will struggle. So really no major difference between either strategy. Al Dente will allow you to have complete control if you want. Or, you can trust macOS to do it's thing.
Used the 20-80% rule on my 14 pro max but I eventually just gave up on it. I'm not gonna sweat over it honestly, there are way worse things you can do to a battery anyways. Don't stress over the little things, use what you spent your hard-earned money on and take advantage of all features and battery life.
Hugely recommended. I have a MacBook with slightly below average battery at purchase (Coconut battery). Now, after Al Dente for a year, it is way above average
@@DerangedScout To clarify, on purchase my battery level was slightly below the specification. To confirm, I checked with Coconut Battery who have an online comparison graph (where they collate all the battery levels of CB users) and, according to this, mine was at the lower end of the graph. Now, after a year and a bit, my battery has degraded little from its initial level, but other comparable MacBooks have degraded substantially such that my existing level is now near the top end of the 2 graphs (level vs age & level vs cycles). So, yes, there is degradation, but it seems Al Dente has minimised it.
Thanks for the tip, but that’s a baiting headline if I ever saw one, especially waking up to it when I’m about to return an Intel iMac while I tear my hair out trying to decide on what Apple Silicon laptop to buy.
Here's my experience: MacBook Pro 17, used AIDente for 6 months, constantly plugged in at 80%, just to "preserve the battery". Eventually, my battery got swollen. It was a brand new one. Also, when the actual battery percentage was 1%, the percentage displayed on screen was 23%, which led my Macbook to shutdown unexpectedly, this is because the power supply is not capable of providing enough power (most of the time when MacBook is connected to an external monitor). I would definitely not recommend using either of these applications. Don't worry about conserving your battery, it will still lose capacity over the years, no matter how much you care about it. Most importantly: NEVER KEEP YOUR MACBOOK CONSTANTLY PLUGGLED IN!
@@djrkm9281 I’ve teashed two Apple batteries because constant plug-in (but it was plugged about half-year or whole year, almost never working on battery). One of battery was swollen over time. It’s good to work on battery from time to time.
Youre not very smart are you? The actual battery percent of none of your devices are ever "1%". Lithium batteries cant actually go to 0% or else theyll never turn back on. Also this isnt 2013, devices know how to manage voltage
Most modern devices manage the battery using software/hardware. The 20/80 technique is far less relevant now as the solution in the video is already built into the OS (operating system)
Bruh this video is literally bullshit because Macbooks also have this setting in the system menu by default. My macbook never exceeds 80% when it’s on power cable, and it knows what time I usually take it with me, so it charges up to 100% automatically shortly before I leave so i have a full battery for the day. This app is literally useless unless you want it to NEVEr be over 80%
No it will not stop wearing it down, batter wear happens regardless of what you do. Please don’t worry about your battery health from “overcharging” cycling your batter happens regardless of what you do. The big things you want to avoid is extremely heat and extreme cold. That WILL damage your battery.
My 10 year old Aser laptop still lasts 30 minutes on a single charge after all this time. A replacement costs 20 bucks. "They dont make them like they used to"
have an old 14 y.o. laptop that lasts an hour on a charge, I only ever use it as a media player and to test OSs, otherwise modern applications would kill the poor nugget.
@@tairikukazumi9661 some apple batteries are up to 110% capacity from factory, so no this "Does not make a difference" you and him just got batteries that were binned at different scores.
I dont understand why it always operates on battery. My old Sony Vaio would work when powered on via power cord. It also had twi batteries. I do miss that comp. It was a desktop powered beast with 17 inch screen.
No matter how much you do this the battery will still degrade so don't inconvenience yourself attempting to perfect charging and discharging just enjoy your device.
Generally its fine to load to 100% if youre using it right away. You just shouldnt store it fully charged for longer periods. More important is that you dont fully discharge. Generally between 20 to 30% of charge should be remaining if possible. Research has found that for lithium ion batteries its best to load to 75% max and discharge to only 65%. Of course thats not realistic
So far I cannot confirm that it makes any difference having the min/max charges at 20/80 or 0/100 in terms of battery durability. But it does make a difference in terms of battery endurance. Using 100% of your avaliable cycle drastically increases the endurance compared to using only 60% of your cycle.
I own an ASUS laptop and my brother has an HP laptop. Both buyed at the same time and 90% of the time plugged to the charger. My laptop is configurated to charge only at 60% while my brother cannot activate that funtion ddue HP limitations. After 3 years my laptop has no issues with the battery (A 60% lasts 3 hrs, i havent fully charged since i got it so im assuming a full charge must last 7-8 hrs) My brothers HP laptop the battery died after one year and it has an anoying message on the start up notifying that the battery is not working properly. So by this i can say that this option makes a huge difference. I got the feeling that my battery could last another 3 years without issues.
AlDente or not, baterry will loose capacity no matter what. When it does, just replace it. Theres no magic hocus pocus to magically save battery from getting older.
I actually have my capacity at 100% by letting the battery down to 20% then recharge it to 100%. Never had capacity go down. As long as you don’t recharge it halfway or keep charging it randomly.
@@Alexthereek Yeahh but Mac do it automagically if you turn on “Optimised battery charging” which is on by default and you don’t need to instal shady programs which can make more harm than good.
Isn’t this effectively already built into your Apple device/MacBook? Pretty sure Apple has some sort of smart charging where it will charge up to 80% and trickle charge to 100% contributing to battery longevity improvements. And whatnot. I don’t think an app to make using your MacBook only have 60% of usable battery will improve anything except be more of an inconvenience
Cycle count has been a lie to me. I've been charging it from 30% to 80% and I've done that 6 times and it says 6 cycle counts, when it's supposed to be 3. Not sure why it's done that. I could charge it to 90% and let it go to 20% I guess
@@vithusanjudrathanraj2785 system settings -> battery -> battery health -> optimised battery charging. It needs to be on for some time so the Macos learns when you usually have your laptop on the charger, so it will charge up to 100% shortly before you have to take it with you
Apple already has this feature built in. It can determine your habits, and if you have your mac plugged in for a long time, it will only charge up to 80
yeah I don't work a 9-5 job, so there are not habits for it to learn. I use it til it about to die then charge it. apples way never worked for any of my devices.
I’m on the fence about this app because I’ve had an iPhone 11 Pro Max for about 5 years now, and the optimized battery charging has kept the battery health at 90% even with plugging it in at night most of the time. So even though technically keeping the charge lower should be better, maybe apples algorithms are smarter than me… not sure
I hear mixed reviews, and think apple(the creator of MacBook) knows better how to charge the battery maybe I am not right but playing with system things is risky
Get the Al Dente app here: setapp.sjv.io/aldenteapp
Damn! I need this. I was on the edge of writing my own "battery driver" sp to speak. I presently use Endurance, but it doesn't prevent charging past 80%.
Thanks for sharing this info. Life saver!
Thank you so much! I am tired of always making sure my computer does not over charge
can you do it in windows
"Al dente" is something to do with pasta in italy
Sounds like an dentist app 😂
time to hop on friends mac and set it to 5%
Thanks I'll do it on my sister's hehehe
it only goes down to 20
@@Techzd1 Apple: Existing Fee
Set it to 1 😈
😂😂
For 9.99/month?? I'll just save all that money and change the battery when needed.
The battery gonna cost a lot my man
@@SC-kd5ln Cost me £120 to change it, after using my Macbook Pro for 9 years.
Still cheaper than paying for that app.
@@SC-kd5lndepends on when the battery dies. That $10 per month adds up.
5 years would be $599.4. More than the cost of the battery and the joy of leaving the charger behind lol
Just pay $20 and get a lifetime subscription lol. 20 bucks is nothing for a 2000 dollar computer
@@0ninetyseven97
Aldente is an amazing app. I keep it set at 80% and then do 2 drains per month (down to 15% and back to 100%) to keep battery calibration readings on point.
Sounds like a good strategy!
So you just keep it plugged in all the time and use this set on 80%?
@@tomasitto299 ya
Calibration isn’t a worry like it used to be
@@Smoshylife All lithium ion batteries need to be calibrated every now and then.
I'm just going to chill with my pentium Acer with battery that lasts 30 minutes. 😂
Me with my lenovo legion that lasts 10 seconds on battery (I can’t afford a MacBook)
@@kevin9965656 No way you can afford a Legion and not a MacBook.
@@kevin9965656 i've never seen a lenovo with good battery - me, an owner of 2 lenovos (2019 l390 & 2023 L13 Gen 3)
As someone with a gaming laptop, i always have to massively nerf my pc to save as much power as possible when im unable to charge it
@@jknomore it’s 6 years old, still rocks tho
More specifically, being closer to 100% or 0% damages the battery and it has to lower its own capacity to stop itself from... you know.. becoming a spicy lil fire pillow!
When you have 22 hours of battery life but you need to limitate it to 80% becouse it can explodes 😂😂
@@mattia.snope not how it works
MacOS has this functionality built in. It’s called optimized charging and it’s set on by default.
Really? Can you set that "optimized charging" feature to float charge at 50% all the time then?
@@helbertgascon no you can't but you don't need to. It's better to drain a battery from 80 to 50% than from 50 to (almost) 0.
@@thomas_xsg That's where Aldente comes in. You literally nail your battery percentage to 50% all the time. Not float it between 50% to 80% or 50% to 0%.
Just 50%. Then have control when you want it to charge all the way to 100% at your jurisdiction.
@@helbertgascon got it. Let me give it a try.
@@helbertgasconis it paid or free ?
iPhones have a similar feature called “Optimised Battery Charging” but the battery limit is fixed at 80% and it charges to full at a certain time
Mac already does this with “optimized charging” by trickle charging after 80% and capping max capacity to extend battery longevity. This would’ve been useful 2 years ago tho
Only does that when you not using it
If you are using your macbook just on a desk plugged or just turned off its best to keep it around 55 to 60 percent , more only if you will take it away from charger at some point
That’s precisely what I’m doing.
the DS in my closet "are you challenging me?"
nah, if I pay for a whole battery I'm gonna use the whole battery
What a dumb shit
When you have to use for long without battery, you can limit to 100.
Honestly if I had MacBook I would definitely install this app.
okay, if you want less total battery that you paid for, after a year
Imagine babying a laptop that hard, it’s a damn tool lmao, just use it
Right on
Ah. So you limit battery capacity so you don't loose battery capacity
Literally lmao this idea is so stupid
basically we limit ourselves to 80% battery so that in 2 years it'll be at 80% . when I saw a person stat it as this I stopped worrying about it, plus I have apple care so in few years if battery is issue ill just replace it.
I think it is for people like me that don't use their laptop on battery often and it is just to not keep your battery at 100% all the time
First of all
Lose*
Second of all, why did you say capacity twice? You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. The second part is LIFESPAN
@@SSADO- what they mean is the battery can hold 80% of its original capacity
MacOS already does this, you just can’t change which percentage it stops at, it’s hard set 80.
Really? I couldn't find anything in MacOS itself
@@NicholasCoulter System settings > Battery > Battery Health > Optimized Battery Charging
When it's active, It'll say Power Source: Power Adapter in the menu bar Battery pane
The app is likely using part of the script implemented for this feature to swap the power source from Battery to the Power Adapter.
@@YD_. That only works for overnight charging I think
@@NicholasCoulter It's whenever you frequently charge, it creates an ML model for predicting your charging patterns and activates it when you charge frequently. It also slows charging between 80% and 100%. This coupled with the fact that the 100% you see on the software is not the actual 100% of the battery (as is true for most devices nowadays) makes apps like this and other battery saving regimens completely unnecessary and obsolete. Maybe these were necessary in the early 2000s and 2010s, but software has outgrown all these limitations.
I’ve been using Al Dente since I got my MacBook Air more than a year ago. I typically keep the charge at around 50 % and only charge it up to 60 or 70 % when I need to take it to university or somewhere else where I cannot charge it. It’s currently at 99 % battery health, which I think is quite good for a battery that’s more than a year old.
(My old Asus laptop fell below 80 % battery health after like 3 years of being at 90 - 100 % most of the time.)
16“ M1 Pro here, 16 months old, 190 cycles, 95% health
Im also mostly keeping it anywhere between 50-70%
@@harrison00xXxVery impressive, so just 5% battery degradation within 16 months and 190 cycles. So you you limit the battery to 70%?
@@MonsieurGuy Not always, i keep it often between 50-70 when mostly at home (still only used on battery, barely used on AC only under long render load with the 140W original power brick), but when im going to university for a longer day or so i give it 100% as well, 80-90% at least in case i really need it.
I think i preserved the battery the most by using a 20W iPhone power brick 99% of the time to charge the MacBook Pro, always charged unused btw and used on battery.
@@MonsieurGuy because using the 16" macbook with the 20W iphone brick is even harming the battery, the battery is used as puffer battery for the power spikes the 20W brick cant deliver.
But without using the MacBook, the 20W power adapter give the battery with a nice and healthy charge with 0,2C.
I would just avoid charge speeds above 0,5C (or
@@MonsieurGuy But i also have to say... its already at over 210 cycles and the health is actually at 91%, once dropped even down to 87%.
Still i dont feel any runtime reduction, it still holds up easily 5-15 hours on a full charge in real world use and the main battery drainer is the display (in hdr brightness)
i was reading on reddit that al dente causes problems to macbook. sometimes it'll shut down your computer in the middle of something. so I removed it and just monitor it manually
It doesn't cause problems
😂yep
How do you monitor manually?
@@anandolodh2458 yeah. Just manually for now
Mac does this already natively in the settings where it doesn’t charge the machine past 80% when enabled unless you manually tell it to charge to 100%.
No it just slows down the charge it doesnt stop
Set it at 80% if you use your laptop battery often, set it at 60% if you keep it plugged in most of the time
This!
Or just set it to ~50 % and increase the limit an hour or two before you leave for work.
Thank's for the advice, always plugged but im staying at 80 %, will try 60 % next time
Now if it was just available on iPhone
@@SweetKingTannerit is😅
This is what Apple needs to do to their iPhones to expand battery life
Yes you can have it plugged in overnight and not have to worry about it trickle charging just like most android phones
@@alexanderzawydiwski9534 yeah I know samsung has a feature that maxes it out at like 85 or smth
@@fawafel And it STOPS CHARGING. I don't have to worry about leaving it plugged in all the time!😊
@@chriskalkman3815 yeah iPhone has that too bud
this is very helpful. i usually have to leave it plugged in for weeks at a time to get it to lower to 80% while plugged in. apple should just add this capability 🙄
They should. Like many things on Windows you don't need an app. Most PC OEMs offer the ability to not charge past 80%. Samsung offers it in their phones too.
The capability is there hardware wise
Why do so many Mac apps have names that look like you're trying to look cute, but have absolutely no relation to what the app does?...
Have you ever cooked pasta?
The ideia is that you are cooking your battery not fully cooked but al dente.
PLEASE READ THIS ANYONE WHO IS PLANNING ON DOING IT: Every 2 months, allow your battery to go to 100% and drain it to around 5% so it can calibrate itself. If you do this FOREVER, it will actually do more harm to your battery
Have actually done this for past 4 years and at least for me, this is not true. I've had my battery mostly between 40-60% and battery healthy is excellent.
Couple times a year I would charge it to full but never to empty. I just use it at home 99% of the time.
There is theory and then there is actual results. What you said might be true and it couldn't hurt to follow your advice.
I hate to burst everybody's bubble but manufacturers usually take these things into account when designing the device. There are other anticonsumer practices that they do that no app can really fix.
my macbook from 2008 with its original battery still works like new 15 years later, so i dont mind
I always set it to 50% when I use it with a thunderbolt cable on my desk hooking it up to my peripherals in clamshell mode. Best app ever!
I bought a thinkpad a month ago, used, had only 26 cycles. I set the threshold to 70% in the Lenovo Vantage App. Works perfectly
I tried using Al dente for 6 months in 2021 when I got the m1 MBA. I'm pretty sure it messes with your built in MacBook battery management becuz after 6 months my battery health dropped to 93% from 100%, even though I rarely outside of 20-80%
I have no issue. make sure you turn on sailing mode.
Been using Al Dente since I got my M1 MBA as well, and after more than a year my battery health is sitting at 99 %. What did you set the charge limiter to?
@@ThePC007 what is your limit?
@@azizcalskan5662 IMHO, it doesn't matter what the limit is. It's the sailing mode that matters the most. I guess the OP uses the free version and made a stoopid complain
@@azizcalskan5662 I typically charge it just a little over 50 % and then set the limit to a value below 50 %. This way I’m very close to 50 % but don’t experience trickle charging (I use the free version so I don’t have access to the sailing mode). Whenever I need to go somewhere I just set it to about 60 or 70 % a few hours before heading out.
I thought macos had this feature built in for the longest time? You don't need another app to do this, just check the preferences menu.
MacOS will still assume you want to operate within the full range of capacity, it just tries to plan charging adaptively so the battery spends a minimal amount of time below 20% and above 80%.
Aldente is a more aggressive lockout that you have to manually override. It will be MUCH better for the battery in the long run (lithium batteries basically don’t degrade at all when kept in that range), but you use it with the knowledge that you’re completely cutting out about 40% of battery capacity.
Apple would probably catch a lot of PR flack by making your power management behave like this, even if it were hidden behind a setting.
I changed my macbook air battery after 9 years of daily usage.
i dont believe it, 9 years ago, macbook use intel cpu and has the same battery life as a normal laptop,
i would believe you if its android or iphone,
stii using my old samsung phone after 8 years, it has 4gb of ram and 128GB internal and everything is fine minus the screen cracks, bought it in 2015, updated to android 9 pie.
I just changed mine after 7 years of daily use
@@DavidRiano95
Bullshi*
😂😂
Just curious: I happened to watch your video on battery management for MacBook yesterday, and if I remember correctly you advised to avoid external app and rely on MacOs optimization, is the situation changed?
Yes, I have changed my mind on Al Dente in particular. At the time I wasn't sure if it was something I could recommend. However, that video was made over 2 years ago, and while the information within that video is still correct, I now have no issues recommending Al Dente (either the free or paid version) if you want to keep your battery at a certain percentage for whatever reason. It's open source and hasn't caused any issues in the several years it's been available.
macOS will "try" to optimize charging and keep the battery at an optimal percentage, but again, in the 2 years since that video I've realized it often doesn't work very well... Rarely do I see it occurring on my own MacBook. It works best if you have a set routine, e.g. use your MacBook until 10pm at night, put the MacBook to sleep, start using it again at 8am etc. If you use it randomly throughout the day, optimized charging will struggle.
So really no major difference between either strategy. Al Dente will allow you to have complete control if you want. Or, you can trust macOS to do it's thing.
@@CreatedTech but I read some reddit's posts that aldente reduced battery capacity from 98-95 or something in one day, so the user uninstalled it
app that prevents charge from going lower than 20%:
This MacBook is insane it has a battery😂
After one year my maximum capacity is 87% and I somehow have 292 cycles already
Used the 20-80% rule on my 14 pro max but I eventually just gave up on it. I'm not gonna sweat over it honestly, there are way worse things you can do to a battery anyways. Don't stress over the little things, use what you spent your hard-earned money on and take advantage of all features and battery life.
I can just replace my phones battery when it degrades since i have a 4 year warrenty and user reparable phone so i really dont give a crap either
4 years lol? how?
Hugely recommended. I have a MacBook with slightly below average battery at purchase (Coconut battery). Now, after Al Dente for a year, it is way above average
If a battery is already degraded, no app in the world will repair it. Battery degradation is irreversible.
@@DerangedScout To clarify, on purchase my battery level was slightly below the specification. To confirm, I checked with Coconut Battery who have an online comparison graph (where they collate all the battery levels of CB users) and, according to this, mine was at the lower end of the graph.
Now, after a year and a bit, my battery has degraded little from its initial level, but other comparable MacBooks have degraded substantially such that my existing level is now near the top end of the 2 graphs (level vs age & level vs cycles). So, yes, there is degradation, but it seems Al Dente has minimised it.
All laptops should have bypass charging even the cheaper ones. Like cmon give people longer lasting battery.
Thanks for the tip, but that’s a baiting headline if I ever saw one, especially waking up to it when I’m about to return an Intel iMac while I tear my hair out trying to decide on what Apple Silicon laptop to buy.
Here's my experience:
MacBook Pro 17, used AIDente for 6 months, constantly plugged in at 80%, just to "preserve the battery". Eventually, my battery got swollen. It was a brand new one.
Also, when the actual battery percentage was 1%, the percentage displayed on screen was 23%, which led my Macbook to shutdown unexpectedly, this is because the power supply is not capable of providing enough power (most of the time when MacBook is connected to an external monitor).
I would definitely not recommend using either of these applications. Don't worry about conserving your battery, it will still lose capacity over the years, no matter how much you care about it.
Most importantly: NEVER KEEP YOUR MACBOOK CONSTANTLY PLUGGLED IN!
I use it for a monitor though for literally most of the time. What to do?
@@djrkm9281 Don’t keep it plugged in all the time
@@djrkm9281 I’ve teashed two Apple batteries because constant plug-in (but it was plugged about half-year or whole year, almost never working on battery). One of battery was swollen over time.
It’s good to work on battery from time to time.
No, you need to keep it plugged in if you use it on charger most of the times. It’s not good to stress battery for no reason.
Youre not very smart are you? The actual battery percent of none of your devices are ever "1%". Lithium batteries cant actually go to 0% or else theyll never turn back on. Also this isnt 2013, devices know how to manage voltage
When I use a Laptop and do editing. I always leave it plugged in especially when gaming. But when doing lighter tasks i use it in battery mode
at $10 a month the price would be more than the difference you'd save by not having to replace the battery a couple months sooner
“A battery”
Me: “naw really its a laptop
wish surface pro had this as i rather not have it sit at 50% and last about 2 hours of the cable
Most modern devices manage the battery using software/hardware. The 20/80 technique is far less relevant now as the solution in the video is already built into the OS (operating system)
On asus you can set it on 80% max with a standart programme
It really doesn’t matter. It will still wear overtime. It’s best to just enjoy it while it lasts and buy a new battery when it’s dead.
Wow a 6-month battery life? Apple Silicon is crazy
I’ve known this for years but this is the first time I’ve seen a real solution. Downloaded the app right now. Thanks!
I used aldente with 80 percent limit for two hours, then after a restart my battery was at 96 percent, so it wasn’t actually working for me at least
While MacBooks have such an app to be installed, Samsung phones have this function directly in the settings menu
who gives a fuck
Bruh this video is literally bullshit because Macbooks also have this setting in the system menu by default. My macbook never exceeds 80% when it’s on power cable, and it knows what time I usually take it with me, so it charges up to 100% automatically shortly before I leave so i have a full battery for the day. This app is literally useless unless you want it to NEVEr be over 80%
Energiza is much better than aldente , especially the UI, according to Batt Uni , 65 to 75% is the best range if your plug in for long periods of time
No it will not stop wearing it down, batter wear happens regardless of what you do. Please don’t worry about your battery health from “overcharging” cycling your batter happens regardless of what you do.
The big things you want to avoid is extremely heat and extreme cold. That WILL damage your battery.
if your Mac battery is suddenly dead, try mbrt device to fix it.
My 10 year old Aser laptop still lasts 30 minutes on a single charge after all this time. A replacement costs 20 bucks. "They dont make them like they used to"
have an old 14 y.o. laptop that lasts an hour on a charge, I only ever use it as a media player and to test OSs, otherwise modern applications would kill the poor nugget.
My M1 Pro 16 is at 94% after 18months
I also have the M1 Pro 16, but it has 530 battery cycles, 89% health, and smells like nail polish when I charge it (has done this since day 1).
@@tairikukazumi9661 some apple batteries are up to 110% capacity from factory, so no this "Does not make a difference" you and him just got batteries that were binned at different scores.
I dont understand why it always operates on battery. My old Sony Vaio would work when powered on via power cord. It also had twi batteries. I do miss that comp. It was a desktop powered beast with 17 inch screen.
No matter how much you do this the battery will still degrade so don't inconvenience yourself attempting to perfect charging and discharging just enjoy your device.
Generally its fine to load to 100% if youre using it right away. You just shouldnt store it fully charged for longer periods. More important is that you dont fully discharge. Generally between 20 to 30% of charge should be remaining if possible. Research has found that for lithium ion batteries its best to load to 75% max and discharge to only 65%. Of course thats not realistic
So far I cannot confirm that it makes any difference having the min/max charges at 20/80 or 0/100 in terms of battery durability. But it does make a difference in terms of battery endurance. Using 100% of your avaliable cycle drastically increases the endurance compared to using only 60% of your cycle.
I own an ASUS laptop and my brother has an HP laptop. Both buyed at the same time and 90% of the time plugged to the charger.
My laptop is configurated to charge only at 60% while my brother cannot activate that funtion ddue HP limitations.
After 3 years my laptop has no issues with the battery (A 60% lasts 3 hrs, i havent fully charged since i got it so im assuming a full charge must last 7-8 hrs)
My brothers HP laptop the battery died after one year and it has an anoying message on the start up notifying that the battery is not working properly.
So by this i can say that this option makes a huge difference. I got the feeling that my battery could last another 3 years without issues.
AlDente or not, baterry will loose capacity no matter what. When it does, just replace it. Theres no magic hocus pocus to magically save battery from getting older.
Use your brain buddy
I’ve been making this argument for years now, but you’ve summarised it incredibly well! Bravo!
Chemistry is chemistry. Not a lot of folks understand why lies beneath the LiPo wrapper.. lol
I wish this app could be ported to iPad...
...shame about iPadOS's technical limitations...
iPads don’t really need this app. I just unplug my iPad whenever it’s around 80%
@@SSADO- Yeah but this would be useful for people who have to charge it overnight
Is it safe to plug in before 30% and plug out before 80% every day? Will it harm battery
Bro I saw the red thingy and thought it was a part of the video but it’s just a reflection😂
I'm still over here with my ThinkPad e420s which only lasts like 30 mins under load 💀
My dell studio of 8 years old was running without any battery for 7years
This is actually managed this way by modern battery management systems, so you don't have to do this yourself anymore.
Its not
Ist somebody who works for a car company as a softwaretester for electric vehicles, I can definitely say it is.
acttually most of high end LiPO does this already and never get fully charged or fully discharged.
most of the times optimazion feature doesn’t work
Omg I needed this soooo bad my computer battery lasted 1 hour only
Your battery is already worn. You need to buy a new o e
@@maxwellcatlol ik but when I will
I actually have my capacity at 100% by letting the battery down to 20% then recharge it to 100%. Never had capacity go down. As long as you don’t recharge it halfway or keep charging it randomly.
when the app does not work properly it doesnt make sense to use it :-(
Bro limited his brain activity to 8%
Limiting to 20 and 80% to make it last longer is a genuine thing
@@Alexthereek Yeahh but Mac do it automagically if you turn on “Optimised battery charging” which is on by default and you don’t need to instal shady programs which can make more harm than good.
@@yarikpetrenko its just from my experience with a gaming laptop
This app messed up my battery calibration, and now my battery needs assistance. I'm not sure if the latter issue is related, though.
Windows laptop having this for ages 😂😂
When he said it had a Battery my mind was blowned
When you have xiaomi with unlimited battery
Or Battery Toolkit. But you didnt give any evidence for your thumbnail stating dead in 6 months?
Al Dente is god tier! I have been using it for years and have the lifetime licence! My macbook is 3 years old and battery is currently at 94% capacity
what are your settings?
@@LanceRazon have it set to 80% and never go above or below that. So it maintains it to stay steady
the best gap is 50 to 70 as far as i can remember
@@dennis.lc8407 nope, it's for longer battery life in using
Comment from ITALY
Did you know that “Al Dente” in Italian means when the pasta is still a bit hard, but soft enough to eat it.
Bye from Italy!
Ok but the MacBook Air newest version uses power adapter power when plugged in (despite how weak the adapter is)
As someone who works on batteries for a living and dailies a 10 year old thinkpad running linux, this is some basic shit
as an italian “al dente” is the time used to cook pasta to make it medium hard
macOS already does that automatically with “optimized battery charging”
Isn’t this effectively already built into your Apple device/MacBook? Pretty sure Apple has some sort of smart charging where it will charge up to 80% and trickle charge to 100% contributing to battery longevity improvements. And whatnot. I don’t think an app to make using your MacBook only have 60% of usable battery will improve anything except be more of an inconvenience
I don’t know what you’re complaining about. 6 months is an unbelievable battery life, I only get 16 hours
DONT USE THE APP WITH NEWER MACS, they already manage all those things about battery, DO NOT LET 3RD PARTY apps manage your battery
imagine spending lot of money to buy one of the top machine in the market and still worrying about battery charge
Asus have this feature way to long before macbook
Unfortunately Apple will not allow a similar app to be available on the IOS App Store.
at the start i tat ur screen was glitched
Cycle count has been a lie to me. I've been charging it from 30% to 80% and I've done that 6 times and it says 6 cycle counts, when it's supposed to be 3. Not sure why it's done that. I could charge it to 90% and let it go to 20% I guess
My macbook has a setting that limits charging to 80% without the app
How?
@@vithusanjudrathanraj2785 system settings -> battery -> battery health -> optimised battery charging. It needs to be on for some time so the Macos learns when you usually have your laptop on the charger, so it will charge up to 100% shortly before you have to take it with you
No. Not true. It last the longest if you keep it between 40%-60%. But expert says you can keep it 20%-80% because it's hard to manage
Now that is actually really useful
And it costs 16,000 or some rubbish like that
Apple already has this feature built in. It can determine your habits, and if you have your mac plugged in for a long time, it will only charge up to 80
yeah ok. Until you leave clamshell mode and restart. then bb the 80%. apple is trash on some tactics.
yeah I don't work a 9-5 job, so there are not habits for it to learn. I use it til it about to die then charge it. apples way never worked for any of my devices.
@@sly2792004 hate to say it, but that’s a habit
@@Panagiotis-Skordilis you’re exactly right. Even aside from that bug they’ll never fix, Apple has a shit algorithm for optimized battery charging.
@@bren.r optimised battery charging is a joke. Actually is a bug it self like many bugs they don’t fix.
I love my 2023 MacBook Pro. The Battery is insane. I can use it the whole day withouth charging and even longer.
Bruh all laptop windows and Mac ignore the battery and power it self by the cable
I’m on the fence about this app because I’ve had an iPhone 11 Pro Max for about 5 years now, and the optimized battery charging has kept the battery health at 90% even with plugging it in at night most of the time. So even though technically keeping the charge lower should be better, maybe apples algorithms are smarter than me… not sure
I hear mixed reviews, and think apple(the creator of MacBook) knows better how to charge the battery
maybe I am not right but playing with system things is risky
Ayo battery works? My did like 2 years ago since then it can't even turn on without charger 😂
Does it mean that I can use it conected all the time if I want?