Here's a few pointers from my findings. I tried to list them on the wiki, but it seems I can only make a handful of comments in a certain amount of time. 1. Relic fragment level only cares about difficulty. I have not yet experienced any change in brackets while leveling all 11 archetypes. It seems to only be affected by changing the difficulty. 2. The max level fragment stats will be listed below (mythic tier, as of patch 1.000.006, pre dlc, pre any nerfs/buffs) Ammo Pickups: +30% Ammo Reserves: +20% Armor Effectiveness: +15% Blight Resistance: +30% Casting Speed: +20% Charge Melee Cost: -30% Consumable Duration: +20% Consumable Speed: +15% Damage Reduction: +5% Elemental Damage: +10% Elemental Resistance: +10% Grey Health Rate: +20% Healing Effectiveness: +20% Health: +15% Melee Attack Speed: +15% Melee Critical Chance: +10% Melee Critical Damage: +20% Melee Damage: +15% Mod Cost: -10% Mod Damage: +10% Mod Duration: +15% Ranged Critical Chance: +10% Ranged Critical Damage: +20% Ranged Damage: +10% Ranged Fire Rate: +10% Recoil: -30% Revive Speed: +25% Shield Effectiveness: +20% Skill Cooldown: -10% Skill Damage: +10% Skill Duration: +15% Spread Recovery: +30% Stagger Damage: +20% Stamina: +15% Stamina Cost: -20% Stamina Recovery Delay: -30% Weakspot Damage: +15% Weapon Spread: -30% Weapon Swap: +20%
@madtrips9349 damage reduction is super low. even with a build I'm running with 87 armor and 35% damage resist with rings, things still hit pretty hard
For the mytic you need apocalypse difficulty but not all classes at 10, if you look at the advance stats of your build you need that the archetype lv is above 78 which is base of all the lvs of your classes so leveling all to 5 and then the one you are interested in makes it way more easy to get mythic relic fragments this way
@@aprioris.knowledge2765 i beat it ( im on console) and i have the bug that doesnt register that i clear it but still manage to get all the fragment mythic
@@aprioris.knowledge2765same i beat the game and didn’t get any of the completion rewards just the material to get the boss weapon. No rings, melee weapon, or new brabus weapons
A super fast relic farm for everyone is wear the 1 true king amulet tge. Go to the staute right in fron of the world stone and it'll give you the unsilled heart and if you already have it itll give you 15 relic dust then just leave the world and keep rerolling until you get the palace courtyard rinse and repeat i got 750 in a hour
In all honesty it would take the casual player a LONG time to get to mythic without using exploits like the severed hands/relic dust. They need a drastic increase to dust, scrap, and drops in general.
I think there is a bug. I am at the highest difficulty but can not upgrade to mythic nor one of my relics go get even plus one which is the armor relic.
Man! Thanks for that video. I was about to waste my relic dust on dran while not being in apocalpyse. I think it's very stupid, that you can only upgrade these fragments to mythic while in apocalypse difficulty. Thanks a lot for this guide! ❤
Not bad...maybe I'll gambled on the 3000 I have. I am just worried having all of mine at solid, well I do have mythic elemental damage for my ritualist/engineer build. I like having different builds for different situations. I wonder if relic fragments save with loadouts? Edit: yep, you can different relic fragments per build using the same relic. Great to know!
@@patrickdezenzio4988The upgrades are gradual but the good thing is mythic is just that, mythic, no ranks, just flat massive boost. Defo try to farm dust and get it done ASAP, they're massive bonuses
I wish i had seen this earlier....just used like 10k relic dust, but i was in my adventure mode that was on recruit for easier hunting for specific drops...gonna have to build up again, and when i hit archetype 80, go to apoc and roll. Thanks for the video, even if i checked it out a smidge too late
@PlayingQuietly great video, and it did the job. I just hadn't seen it yet sadly. Still appreciate the vid! Simple, short, to the point, and I don't think anyone else (that I've seen) have gone over this
Considering what people are saying about the levels-- im gurssing i dont need to really have all classes level 5 to meet the level requirement in reality. For example-- i have 3 max level classes and lets say my Challenger, Medic , and Trainer are level 0 they can stay 0 because the extra 5 levels from the 3 of my max can counts towards them as total for the level requirement
I hope this is the case...alot of contradicting , confusing information in the comments. I really dont wanna level up all archetypes, i have 5 leveled. I hope thats enough.
for a relic dust farm, you can get one fragment every run if you wear the one true king amulet and roll the palace courtyard. picking up a duplicate of the relic that's right at the start will give you a free 15 relic dust
Just started playing this game two nights ago. So these Red Relic Fragments have nothing to do with the main campaign of the game ? Or do they add something to the campaign ? I crafted one just to see what would happen, and I can’t even find it in the menu to slot it somewhere. Again, I just started this game and only 3 hours in.
@@PlayingQuietly at least I didn’t suffer alone hahaha but nah, i definitely appreciate the video, brother! I would’ve been making that mistake over and over for who knows how long hahaha
more or less, yes. For a build I was working on I recently spent like 400 dust before I got the shard upgrade I needed. Just make sure you are on apocalypse, you have your architypes leveled up, and you should be EVENTUALLY get the shard you are looking for.
If you get a Relic Fragment, you loose 15 Relic Dust. But if you don't get a Relic Fragment, you've only spent 10 Relic Dust and you get 5 back in return.
So how does that work are you rerolling the actual relic fragments to mythic and then they level up to +10 right how does that work this mechanic is still so confusing
So I think I am screwed, maybe someone has some ideas, but my secret box in the back rooms to get Archon bugged. I cannot pick it up. The first time I was able to get the secret box I was in a 3-player group and was dead when they did it. My screen was black while they were doing it. But when I respawned I got the 2 other gear but not the secret box to turn in at Wallace. I tried to run it again in someone else's campaign- they were able to pick it up but I still was not getting it. I think my char is bugged and cant get the 10+ on all chars.
I unfortunately don't have any tips for that, but you don't need all 11 classes to be able to get mythic. from what people are saying it seems like you need total archetype lvl 80, so max out 8 classes
A little late, but I thought the same when I got it myself. Have you tried getting close to it? It wasn't visible to me until I was like a foot away from it.
Sorry for the late reply, but I am curious if you were able to get it after this most recent patch? Also, a lot of people have pointed out that I might be mistaken on needing all archetypes to be at level 10.
Maximizing Explorer is all that you need. I leveled them all up today to flawless +4 For console players don't miss the hand glitch which you will trade the hand later in nightweaver's web i manged to get around 20K out of the dust thing... hurry before the update!!! Be aware Too much farming will break the game take it easy 😅
I've heard some people saying that the fragments you unlock are tied to the archetypes. Lol really I've heard a lot of conflicting info, that's why I just recommend leveling everything. Especially if you are gonna spend all that dust
from what people are saying, you seem need 80 as your overall archetype level. so if you have all 11 archetypes, and get all of them to lvl 5, then you need to gain another 25 levels somehow, i guess max level ur 5 favorites. that seems like a LOT, because it is, but mythic are meant to be end game drops
@robnoel9306 nothing is. You got Hunter, Medic, Gunslinger, Handler and Challenger as starting classes. Then Summoner, Alchemist, Engineer, Invader, Explorer and Archon
Yes and no, my German friend. They work passively while equipped to a heart, but that heart must be equipped. The only thing that happens when consumed is what the heart says in its description (70hp over 0.5 seconds, for example)
Ok im not fully understanding why we have to upgrade all archetypes first? You just sayin that so we can get a lot of relic dust n shi to buy them, or bc that affects the rarity of items to get mythic and higher tier relics in the first place? If it affects the drop rate and tier then i think thats just dumb as hell😂, im not ab to go waste countless hours trying to get the archon n others i dont have ect to lvl them up for no reason jus for the relic thats the dumbest shit i ever heard
It affects the rarity. It would seem you don't have to have every class leveled up, but you do need most of them. I believe one of the top posts says the number. I only said level up everything because I wasn't 100% sure of the actual number at the time of recording, and given the scarcity of relic dust, I figured it would be better to be cautious. That and if you follow my leveling guide along with using the save guardian, leveling everything is really pretty fast
IMHO, this is seriously the stupidest mechanic I've ever seen of this type in any game. Pissing away stuff players grind for on RNG "chances" for high-quality mods, etc., is a lame "engagement" mechanic that disprespects the player's time. Like so many other aspects, there's no reason this aspect of the game needs to be so ridiculously cryptic. Without access to online resources, few players will have the unlimited patience required to figure the things out that 'content creators' are essentially paid to uncover. Gaming has been completely corrupted by this dynamic, sadly.
It's not that serious buddy... it's called game ingagement.... the more time you put in the better items you get. What would be a better game mechanic ? Instead of complaining about a minor part of the game how about just enjoying the game for the masterpiece it is.... you apparently are a crabby ass who had his cheerios shat in that morning. It's a good mechanic for the game it's in.....
TLDR: get all archetypes to lvl 10 and have a world on apocalypse to get max lvl relic fragments to drop (edit) with all archetypes on lvl 10, there's higher chance/probability for mythic to drop, i got full mythic without having 3 archetypes unlocked at all.
Here's a few pointers from my findings. I tried to list them on the wiki, but it seems I can only make a handful of comments in a certain amount of time.
1. Relic fragment level only cares about difficulty. I have not yet experienced any change in brackets while leveling all 11 archetypes. It seems to only be affected by changing the difficulty.
2. The max level fragment stats will be listed below (mythic tier, as of patch 1.000.006, pre dlc, pre any nerfs/buffs)
Ammo Pickups: +30%
Ammo Reserves: +20%
Armor Effectiveness: +15%
Blight Resistance: +30%
Casting Speed: +20%
Charge Melee Cost: -30%
Consumable Duration: +20%
Consumable Speed: +15%
Damage Reduction: +5%
Elemental Damage: +10%
Elemental Resistance: +10%
Grey Health Rate: +20%
Healing Effectiveness: +20%
Health: +15%
Melee Attack Speed: +15%
Melee Critical Chance: +10%
Melee Critical Damage: +20%
Melee Damage: +15%
Mod Cost: -10%
Mod Damage: +10%
Mod Duration: +15%
Ranged Critical Chance: +10%
Ranged Critical Damage: +20%
Ranged Damage: +10%
Ranged Fire Rate: +10%
Recoil: -30%
Revive Speed: +25%
Shield Effectiveness: +20%
Skill Cooldown: -10%
Skill Damage: +10%
Skill Duration: +15%
Spread Recovery: +30%
Stagger Damage: +20%
Stamina: +15%
Stamina Cost: -20%
Stamina Recovery Delay: -30%
Weakspot Damage: +15%
Weapon Spread: -30%
Weapon Swap: +20%
Skill cooldown would be among the weakest smh
@madtrips9349 damage reduction is super low. even with a build I'm running with 87 armor and 35% damage resist with rings, things still hit pretty hard
@@Rahnonymous even at 50% with 90 armor they still hit like a truck
@revolverjesus98 is this 100% because I’m in apocalypse difficulty and have spent over 1500 relic dust and had no mythic
@w4yne3d61 it depends. I've had to spend like 7k for a single mythic Health fragment because rng wasn't being kind.
For the mytic you need apocalypse difficulty but not all classes at 10, if you look at the advance stats of your build you need that the archetype lv is above 78 which is base of all the lvs of your classes so leveling all to 5 and then the one you are interested in makes it way more easy to get mythic relic fragments this way
Good info, thanks!
You need to complete the game? The game doesn’t register that I beat it
@@aprioris.knowledge2765 i beat it ( im on console) and i have the bug that doesnt register that i clear it but still manage to get all the fragment mythic
@@aprioris.knowledge2765same i beat the game and didn’t get any of the completion rewards just the material to get the boss weapon. No rings, melee weapon, or new brabus weapons
Isn't the archetype level account bound? Like if I get the necessary levels on one char, does that mean I can mythics on other characters?
A super fast relic farm for everyone is wear the 1 true king amulet tge. Go to the staute right in fron of the world stone and it'll give you the unsilled heart and if you already have it itll give you 15 relic dust then just leave the world and keep rerolling until you get the palace courtyard rinse and repeat i got 750 in a hour
Hey that is pretty slick. Do you mind if I make a video on this and shout you out with the credit?
@PlayingQuietly yeah go ahead
What statue and where?
In all honesty it would take the casual player a LONG time to get to mythic without using exploits like the severed hands/relic dust. They need a drastic increase to dust, scrap, and drops in general.
You are not wrong!
Drops are being increased with the new update that just dropped on pc which should be coming to console soon
It was fixed unfortunately
Just got to play adventure mode and clear with people.
I think there is a bug. I am at the highest difficulty but can not upgrade to mythic nor one of my relics go get even plus one which is the armor relic.
Man! Thanks for that video. I was about to waste my relic dust on dran while not being in apocalpyse. I think it's very stupid, that you can only upgrade these fragments to mythic while in apocalypse difficulty.
Thanks a lot for this guide! ❤
No problem! Glad I could help
Took me a good 1300 relic dust but thanks to ya I have mostly mythic only fragments! Appreciate the guide!
Np! Glad I could hrlp
Not bad...maybe I'll gambled on the 3000 I have. I am just worried having all of mine at solid, well I do have mythic elemental damage for my ritualist/engineer build. I like having different builds for different situations. I wonder if relic fragments save with loadouts? Edit: yep, you can different relic fragments per build using the same relic. Great to know!
@@patrickdezenzio4988The upgrades are gradual but the good thing is mythic is just that, mythic, no ranks, just flat massive boost. Defo try to farm dust and get it done ASAP, they're massive bonuses
I wish i had seen this earlier....just used like 10k relic dust, but i was in my adventure mode that was on recruit for easier hunting for specific drops...gonna have to build up again, and when i hit archetype 80, go to apoc and roll. Thanks for the video, even if i checked it out a smidge too late
Yeah my aim was to help people not waste resources.
@PlayingQuietly great video, and it did the job. I just hadn't seen it yet sadly. Still appreciate the vid! Simple, short, to the point, and I don't think anyone else (that I've seen) have gone over this
Noooooooo, my brother in Christ, please tell me you still have a good sum left over 😰
@@Rahnonymous nope, completely drained the reserves haha. All good tho. I'll get more
From my experience you start getting mythic relics drops and from the shop, when you have at least 7 lvl 10 archetypes
A little hack, for everyone set your difficulty for adventure mode to apocalypse and then do that routine it’s scales by the difficulty
Short and sweet, thanks for the quick guide!
My pleasure, hope it helped!
All Praise The Oracle And Her Never-ending Gifts 👏🏻 maxed out my 8 classes in a couple hours.
Subscribed! Finally someone explained this!!!! I was about to lose my mind trying to figure out how the heck you leveled these up!
Thanks!
Glad I could help!
Considering what people are saying about the levels-- im gurssing i dont need to really have all classes level 5 to meet the level requirement in reality. For example-- i have 3 max level classes and lets say my Challenger, Medic , and Trainer are level 0 they can stay 0 because the extra 5 levels from the 3 of my max can counts towards them as total for the level requirement
I hope this is the case...alot of contradicting , confusing information in the comments. I really dont wanna level up all archetypes, i have 5 leveled. I hope thats enough.
Ty u dude I'm Ben trying to upgrade them n didn't know u can do that ty
Awesome I just reached level 10 so thanks for the great tip.
Make sure your overall archetype is level 80
I’m here in the description looking for the link in how to level archetypes fast and there are no links
Wow I cant believe I never added that. Thanks for letting me know. The link is now there
just spent 700 relic dust and 0 mythic updates on apocalypse difficulty.
I started getting Mythic fragments when i had an overall archetype level of 88
Wait, do you need to have all archetypes in the game up to 10 or only the ones you currently have?
Thanks for this vid!
No problem! I'll be posting another method in a few hours, but it requires a bit more prep
for a relic dust farm, you can get one fragment every run if you wear the one true king amulet and roll the palace courtyard.
picking up a duplicate of the relic that's right at the start will give you a free 15 relic dust
Yep, just made a video about it
Just started playing this game two nights ago. So these Red Relic Fragments have nothing to do with the main campaign of the game ? Or do they add something to the campaign ? I crafted one just to see what would happen, and I can’t even find it in the menu to slot it somewhere. Again, I just started this game and only 3 hours in.
I should have watched this video before dropping 2k relic dust all on red fragments on Survivor 😂
I may or may not have done something similar. May or may not have been the reason I made the video. ;)
@@PlayingQuietly at least I didn’t suffer alone hahaha but nah, i definitely appreciate the video, brother! I would’ve been making that mistake over and over for who knows how long hahaha
Why wood you nead to upgrade all 2 srchetipes are enougjt ?
Super helpful!
Short and sweet to the point thank you so much
My pleasure
You only need lvl 80 in archetypes . So you need 8 archetypes to level 10 in order to get mythic .
If you just upgraded one archetype . Don't have any of the other archetypes yet wouldn't that work?
maybe a bit late but maybe for others: no it's simply all your archetype levels combined, no matter which one
Do you have to consume a relic to get your relic fragments to work?
So no matter what difficulty it is, it’s still RNG?
more or less, yes. For a build I was working on I recently spent like 400 dust before I got the shard upgrade I needed.
Just make sure you are on apocalypse, you have your architypes leveled up, and you should be EVENTUALLY get the shard you are looking for.
If you get a Relic Fragment, you loose 15 Relic Dust. But if you don't get a Relic Fragment, you've only spent 10 Relic Dust and you get 5 back in return.
thank you
So how does that work are you rerolling the actual relic fragments to mythic and then they level up to +10 right how does that work this mechanic is still so confusing
Yeah, I know what you mean. Just look at the comments here, there is so much conflicting info.
Nice. It saves soo much time :-) does it works on console too?
It SHOULD, but I am not sure.
Hey man guess what? I just now found out you can upgrade relic fragments lol
So I think I am screwed, maybe someone has some ideas, but my secret box in the back rooms to get Archon bugged. I cannot pick it up. The first time I was able to get the secret box I was in a 3-player group and was dead when they did it. My screen was black while they were doing it. But when I respawned I got the 2 other gear but not the secret box to turn in at Wallace. I tried to run it again in someone else's campaign- they were able to pick it up but I still was not getting it. I think my char is bugged and cant get the 10+ on all chars.
I unfortunately don't have any tips for that, but you don't need all 11 classes to be able to get mythic. from what people are saying it seems like you need total archetype lvl 80, so max out 8 classes
A little late, but I thought the same when I got it myself. Have you tried getting close to it? It wasn't visible to me until I was like a foot away from it.
Sorry for the late reply, but I am curious if you were able to get it after this most recent patch?
Also, a lot of people have pointed out that I might be mistaken on needing all archetypes to be at level 10.
@PlayingQuietly Not for me, at least. I had only I think 4 max leveled at the time I obtained the cube
Shirt and sweet nice vid 😎
Thanks! 😁
Be careful I think it's bugged my fragments went down levels 😢 after the latest patch..
Oh geez. Thanks for the heads up
So mythic is the highest level after 4? I thought 4 was the highest!
Cool video but once I level all of my archetypes to 10 I hope I don't need help like this.
So getting a mythic relic fragment is random? You will spend so much and end up with a fragment you have no use for? 🤦♂️😂
Maximizing Explorer is all that you need. I leveled them all up today to flawless +4
For console players don't miss the hand glitch which you will trade the hand later in nightweaver's web i manged to get around 20K out of the dust thing... hurry before the update!!!
Be aware
Too much farming will break the game take it easy 😅
I've heard some people saying that the fragments you unlock are tied to the archetypes. Lol really I've heard a lot of conflicting info, that's why I just recommend leveling everything. Especially if you are gonna spend all that dust
@PlayingQuietly read explorer perks and you'll see 🤍
I prefer not to do the exploits or cheats whatever you want to call them. I enjoy grinding the game plus it gives me something to do and work towards
i heard that glitch fixed ?
@@Enacht1811 The patch hasn't come out on consoles yet
So do u just need 2 level 10 archetypes or do u need to max them all?
from what people are saying, you seem need 80 as your overall archetype level. so if you have all 11 archetypes, and get all of them to lvl 5, then you need to gain another 25 levels somehow, i guess max level ur 5 favorites. that seems like a LOT, because it is, but mythic are meant to be end game drops
11 archetypes? What's after Archon?
@robnoel9306 nothing is. You got Hunter, Medic, Gunslinger, Handler and Challenger as starting classes. Then Summoner, Alchemist, Engineer, Invader, Explorer and Archon
@@im2shady4u13 great thanks for clarifying
Is the highest tier flawless or mythic?
Mythic
I think it goes Cracked 1-4, Ordinary 1-4, Solid 1-4, Polished 1-4, Flawless 1-4, Regal 1-4, and finally Mythic
Do those fragments work passivly oder only when I use my relic?
Passively
Sure?
Yes and no, my German friend. They work passively while equipped to a heart, but that heart must be equipped. The only thing that happens when consumed is what the heart says in its description (70hp over 0.5 seconds, for example)
Ok im not fully understanding why we have to upgrade all archetypes first? You just sayin that so we can get a lot of relic dust n shi to buy them, or bc that affects the rarity of items to get mythic and higher tier relics in the first place? If it affects the drop rate and tier then i think thats just dumb as hell😂, im not ab to go waste countless hours trying to get the archon n others i dont have ect to lvl them up for no reason jus for the relic thats the dumbest shit i ever heard
It affects the rarity. It would seem you don't have to have every class leveled up, but you do need most of them. I believe one of the top posts says the number.
I only said level up everything because I wasn't 100% sure of the actual number at the time of recording, and given the scarcity of relic dust, I figured it would be better to be cautious.
That and if you follow my leveling guide along with using the save guardian, leveling everything is really pretty fast
IMHO, this is seriously the stupidest mechanic I've ever seen of this type in any game. Pissing away stuff players grind for on RNG "chances" for high-quality mods, etc., is a lame "engagement" mechanic that disprespects the player's time. Like so many other aspects, there's no reason this aspect of the game needs to be so ridiculously cryptic. Without access to online resources, few players will have the unlimited patience required to figure the things out that 'content creators' are essentially paid to uncover. Gaming has been completely corrupted by this dynamic, sadly.
It's not that serious buddy... it's called game ingagement.... the more time you put in the better items you get. What would be a better game mechanic ? Instead of complaining about a minor part of the game how about just enjoying the game for the masterpiece it is.... you apparently are a crabby ass who had his cheerios shat in that morning. It's a good mechanic for the game it's in.....
Soooo much wasted dust. Damn. :/
This is why you fucking look up shit before you waste resources lmao rip me
We all been there, man.
This has been patched
Patched on PS Consoles yet ? No Joy here. Nothing above +4. No Mythics. $2900 spent in Dust.
THIS IS THE MOST USELESS VIDEO IVE EVER SEEN ABOUT THIS GAME
Thanks, 🌞
wow. isnt that stupid that you can run trough the game on "easy" then just spam everything on "apocalypse".....
what the heck. so dumb stuff.
TLDR: get all archetypes to lvl 10 and have a world on apocalypse to get max lvl relic fragments to drop
(edit) with all archetypes on lvl 10, there's higher chance/probability for mythic to drop, i got full mythic without having 3 archetypes unlocked at all.
It's base on total level at level 80 mythic starts to drop pretty consistently