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The Rumbling! Attack on Titan 4x21 "From You, 2000 Years Ago" Reaction/Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2022
- The Rumbling! Attack on Titan 4x21 "From You, 2000 Years Ago" Reaction/Review
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moment of silence for the people who avoid watching anime because they think "it's lame" without giving it a chance
@Inazuma Eleven better than LOTR? 😂
@Inazuma Eleven holy shit this is such a horrible take. AOT is not at the same level as these shows. LOTR and GOT are LIGHT YEARS better and it's not even close
@Inazuma Eleven Wait until the ending lol you will be eating those words.
AOT goated, beat all the series you can think of
That was me…then I watched AOT. Still haven’t found another good anime but AOT up there with the best shows ever.
We went from “To You, 2000 Years from Now” to “From You 2000 Years From Now” it really left like 2000 years worth of answers. Attack on Titan is truly masterclass storytelling
Until that ending hits
@@admiral_chika6780 I mean he's not wrong....
AND THEN BECOME A BIRD WEEE
@@themontypython7316 bruh, the ending was fine tf
@@hyun-ki_hei objectively it wasn’t, how the fuck are you going to go through all this effort to stop war but then at the end you still didn’t stop it after everything and nothing has changed.
For Ymir, it’s not just 2000 years. She probably felt like she’s in the Paths for billions of years. :(
She built everything, all the Titans, each titan that formed, each injury sustained, she fixed it. If that was me, I’d totally be like, damn fuck this place and this king, I’m out this bitch.
@@usmantasayev4057 how she got so much patience to create all that Titans from scratch 💀💀💀💀
@@usmantasayev4057 fuck them titans imma built a castle here in paths and watch u kill each other. Me probably lol
bro, imagine just you, building all those nasty ass titans for thooousaaands of years.
ID GO FUKIN CRAZY
@@xxi404 tbh, that makes sense why they look so disproportional and shit sometimes, maybe she makes the head sometimes and she’s like forget the rest of it he’s gonna have tiny arms and legs 😂😅
Imagine chilling inside the walls then all of a sudden you hear “SUBJECTS OF YMIR, I AM EREN YEAGAR” 😂😂😂
Walls was crashing down at that point but def crazy
😂😂😂
“anyways im gonna trample 80% of the population so sit tight"
@@kevinj4631 more like 99 percent there is only like 100k population within the walls my guy
@@xoshnax5962 he is refering to the whole world not just inside the walls
If you think about it, The Attack Titan is probably the little will of Ymir to rebel against King Fritz, but because she's too attached to him (Stockholm Syndrome), she just couldn't do it by herself, that's why she gives the successor of The Attack Titan a will to free her (Eren Jaeger) 2000 years later, hence why The Attack Titan goal is to seek freedom (for her) and never obeying the self-righteous king
That’s a sick observation and makes a whole lot of sense !
You're spoiling. Stop it.
@@baronn9809 Dumbass. All this information has just been revealed this episode.
@@baronn9809 bruh its already been revealed 💀
@@mimiAnime1 When did it say why Ymir follow Fritzs orders?
If you think Eren breaks his fingers from the chains look terrifying, imagine what he did to his limb and his left eye when he was at Marley
That guy feels no pain
What chapter was it?
What's pain to someone who can regenerate lost limbs?
@@War_Maker lol any sane person would pass out even think about genuinely cutting of their leg with a knife
@@War_Maker even though he can regenerate, he still feels the pain from every wounds he gets, look how Pieck reacted when Porco chopped her hand
This is basically the opposite of what Itachi did, Itachi chose the village over the clan and Eren chose his people over the world
On a surface level
itachi is more honorable while eren is more fun to watch
Tbf itachis main objective was saving sasuke but on a grander scale he had to sacrifice the rest of his clan. so yeah in general it was the opposite but coming down to main motives both eren and itachi was trynna protect those closest to them
@@barryg578 Beautiful
when u realise how similar zeke n itachi are....
Rob understood it perfectly, we don't need to justify eren actions, but it's pretty obvious were he's coming from, can you really blame him?
I think Eren stomping the whole world, was a terrible ending to such a good story.
@@hoxxes exactly!! How it should've ended. Everyone's complaining but can't give a legit solution.
@@peacepipe6695 Literally not a single soul dislikes the rumbling, most people exclusively have an issue with the last chapter which in some part is justified
@@hoxxes With people hating him and not seeing him as a hero. Like armin and mikasa
@@Jl-qg5xz chill bro not many people have read manga, please don't spoil them, who knows they may just decide to like ending to spite y'all haters
as a manga reader, delete it
Eren basically told us his plan last episode. "Rather than letting someone steal my freedom, I'll steal theirs first." He wants the people of Paradis to have freedom too. He will get rid of anyone/anything threatening his and their freedom.
Edit: I read the manga. I wrote this to get a reaction out of people and see where they stand for both the manga readers and anime only. Did I start arguments? Yes. Do I regret it? No. Does this make me a bad person? 🤷♂️
Eren also did say what his true intentions were even before the episode you are qouting.
Sound like a fascist.
@@MadsoKuest he literally is lol what was the point of saying this
Dudes made it clear his a extremist take zero chances freedom fighter at this point. Man’s literally told the world I won’t gamble paradise’s safety.
@@MadsoKuest Marley and the rest of the world are
He's not just getting rid of people who threaten his people. He's getting rid of EVERYONE. can you not comprehend the difference
12:51 Bro, literally nobody is talking about this. Gabi literally shot Eren's head off and ended the war. You know for like two seconds, she thought it was all over and everything was going to be okay. Then but then IMMEDIATELY, with NO EXPLANATION, this big ass alien monster spine juts out of his head and reconnects to his body, lightning strikes, the walls come down and the Rumbling begins. That had to be the fastest, craziest and most confusing emotional roller coaster of all time.
considering just how much kickback there was on that rifle, she probably didn't see much since she fell all the way back
@@Michaelonyoutub in the manga she was looking directly at the skeleton forming
It’s like Reiner said, “the one person who shouldn’t have this power is you Eren.” Because he’s was willing to get things done and sacrifice the world for his people/friends
Edit: One thing I don’t understand though is how he plans to help the Eldians in Marley. They will undoubtedly be crushed so why would he address them through his announcement?
Wow that's a great observation bro
At this point Reiner is undoubtedly the protagonist of the whole show.
@@botheredbiskit no eren is the protagonist. protagonist can be evil but it's the main character
More like because Eren is a monster and should not be trusted with such power
@@charan775 nah eren is antagonist since season 4 and reiner was protagonist at least in part 1 and eren was antagonist, in part 2 Zeke kinda seems like protagonist at least till now, we have few more eps to go
edit: why tf are y'all assuming im calling eren or reiner a good guy or bad guy? can you even read? Im basing this on how much of and whose POV we were seeing in season 4 part 1 and part 2
Protagonist does not mean “the good guy”. Protagonist just means the main person the story is focused on. Antagonist doesn’t mean “the villain”. The antagonist is the character opposing the protagonist. It just so happens in this anime/story, the protagonist has characteristics people would consider dark/bad/evil. That’s what makes Eren such a complex protagonist and AOT so unpredictable
Exactly wellz don’t know what it even means saying “he’s both” like it’s one or the other
Then it is Mikasa then
@@classicplug No, she literally isn’t the main character. It’s Eren
@@classicplug what u smoking? Did u hv weak reading comprehension or what, he said the chracter of which the story focused on. Mikasa is a side character
Yup that’s why the story is called Shingeki no kyojin, the attack titan aka eren, is the story of eren pretty much
Rob for the first time ever actually understood the show AND made valid points at the same time 🤣
Rob don’t play when it comes to Attack on Titan😂
Rob is only intelligent in aot he just shouts will power in battle shonens
Except the show is making the exact opposite point lol
It's not the first time especially with AOT . Hop off nuts
, is a complex show so people can understand the show in different ways.
AOT and DS fans eating good today. That scene where the spine forms and the wall crumbles gives me goosebumps!
This episode for me man as an AOT fan was 🔥🔥🔥! Probably one of the best episodes in the series so far and I know that there is even better content ahead and I am not going to spoil it for the anime only fans because I want them to see and judge it for themselves without the manga folks spoiling it for them
@@wailord07 Respect brother
@@titanoriginel7823 you know that I am not going to ruin it unlike some people
DS? Dark souls or am I lost
@@oogaboogaa21 Demon Slayer
it’s sad how the royal family saw ymir as “ladylike” and “always helping people and thinking of them” when really she was a slave… how insane to depict a girl who was a literal enslaved human as “helping because she was nice and wanted to” HISTORY BOOK PROPAGANDA.
The Reiss family probably didn't know. Or maybe that is how Ymir daughters want their mother to be remembered, so they pass that history.
The crazy thing is this has real world parallels. If you read some history books of how they would talk about US slaves in plantations you would think they were holding hands and working in harmony
Eren and Zeke are the ones to recieved special treatment since they are just the only two that Ymir actually met within the paths or at least after Karl Fritz, since other royals might have know this before the brainwash thing happened.
@@darkale658 Yep and with the Indigenous Americans too
Yeah it’s literally propaganda since the royal family is trying to follow the will of the king and his ideals which is why they probably depicted ymir in such a way
Rob is speaking straight facts. For all Eren knows, the entire world wants to see the annihilation of his people. He's been through the worst pains imaginable, an animal backed into a corner with no other options. Eren is justified in his actions given the knowledge and perspective he's gained through the series. As a viewer, we have more information than he does, so you could argue he's morally apprehensible for the rumbling. However, the same argument does not hold for Eren.
The thing is though same applies though what did someone random out the walls did to Eren you can't hold them to what other people did so regardless it's not justified , cause if a kid outside the wall gains the power an crush paradise for what Eren did everyone would say they're wrong
Isn’t he a virtual god with the founding and all those memories? He acknowledges that there’ll be many innocents will be killed but he will do it anyway because they might hold a grudge or fear them.
You are literally defending a fascists genocidal.
They brought hate to the island for a long time. Now its the islands turn to bring back the hate
@@tah1240 He is only connected to other Eldians. Right now, if he saw memories of other Eldians. He will only saw them getting discriminated, which wouldn't help lol
Protagonist just refers to the main character of the story. It's not synonymous to a "good guy". A protagonist can be a villain and the good guy who opposes the main character can be an antagonist.
Or it can be neither like eren
Yup, just like joaquin phoenix joker
Kind of like Hank and Walter in a way
It only takes one bad day to become a villain
@@jonsitoa Eren is a Protagonist
Rob had a point. They poked eren and his people until he snapped. It doesn’t justify what he does, but it explains it.
Edit: I am NOT defending eren, or anyone. I think everyone is wrong. But eren knows (and has known) he is. And that’s what make his character writing and stance/viewpoint that much more heartbreaking and storytelling. But to reiterate, every side in this anime (yeagerists, eldians, marley) are wrong - and that’s what makes this anime so amazing and complex. you can say right and wrong is subjective, but ultimately there is always mutually correct rules or morals in life. That’s how you distinguish between bad and good. Ok I’m done y’all go ahead and discuss (nicely pls lol) in the comments tho 😭✋
Nah fr I was surprised rob had such a good point he def got the point
The fans who defend eren’s actions didnt understand his character in the slightest, bc even Eren knows what he’s doing is evil
@@alyssao517 too bad no one cares eren on top
@@JustIce-hs5rx stop fucking spoiling
@@tajr6789 sry i’ll delete
A lot of people missed this: after Eren gets the founder power and addresses the people he calls them “subjects of Ymir” instead of “Eldians” even he doesn’t consider himself eldian anymore
Its sorta wrong ya know. Eldians were the kings people. But the king is nothing. Ymir was everything. So subjects of ymir is more accurate
It's just kinda a "more correct" address, I guess?
Historically they were Subjects of Ymir first and were called Eldians by their oppressors later. So he just opts for the "pre-oppression" name.
Seeing the rumbling finally get animated feels so surreal, Eren’s voice gives me chills honestly. Ymir Fritz also had such a tragic backstory, definitely deserved better.
As a manga reader, I was very impressed with how well done MAPPA did with the rumbling!
no she didn't
@@bendover7841 "Bro, who cares if she was born a slave, suffered on a daily basis, was used as a tool, forced to bear children to this awful man who didn't give a fuck about your people and when you died, he still called you a slave, that's not tragic, that's just boring, yawn."
@@lockerbuddy2039 Yet she still loved the guy who enslaved and tortured her. She went back to the tribe who tried to get her k1lled. She murdered other people for them. She deserved everything she got.
There’s some kid somewhere who started anime with Attack on Titan. Kid was literally born into greatness.
Though that kid will probably have a bloated expectations for anime if that were the case. Since he probably will have preconceptions that all anime is on the se level as AoT.
Bro i named my son eren and i dont regret it
@@Snzn18 Facts
@@Snzn18 this is facts, but maybe not a bad thing. Every new anime should try to be better than what came before. If we can consider Naruto and One Piece the “next DBZ” then I look forward to the next “AOT.”
I started anime with aot back in the day if that counts
I was looking forward to 2 things today:
1. This episode dropping.
2. You guys reacting to it.
Ikr 😂
And demon slayer too bro
Some neat trivia about this episode. The creature that attached itself to Ymir’s spine resembles/is designed after an ancient organism called Hallucigenia, which lived around 500 million years ago, during the Cambrian period (and discovered in the Burgess Shale, Canada). The location itself is kinda symbolic because the Burgess Shale is sorta considered an "Origin of Life" in terms of its archaeological significance, thanks to the vast records of biodiversity preserved in it, which lead to the majority of life forms that exist today on the planet. So one can say Ymir "made contact" with the "Source of Life” in a symbolic sense, like Eren Krueger hypothesized back in Season 3 of the anime.
This episode also had a lot of Norse mythology imagery and inspiration. In addition to the mythological Ymir being the first Jötunn and ancestor of all Jötnar (i.e. giants/titans), the Hallucigenia-like creature likely also symbolizes Níðhöggr, the dragon/serpent/wyrm who knaws at the roots of the world tree Yggdrasil (which is represented by the giant tree Ymir falls into and later on “The Paths” that connect all Eldians). Also Ymir’s Titan powers later splitting into the 9 Titan shifter powers is also a likely reference to the 9 Realms in Norse mythology that the world tree Yggdrasil maintains. Also the ancient Eldians seem to resemble Norse/Vikings in terms of their design (with the ancient Marleyans resembling Romans).
Also the Wall Titans won’t just be killing all humans outside of the island of Paradis, they will also end up destroying the majority of all other life (flora and fuana larger than microorganisms) as well, which is a huge ecological/environmental disaster to the Biosphere in general (which admittedly is partially something that Isayama himself likely didn’t fully appreciate/consider when writing the story as well).
Nah the Flora and Fuana are fine. Remember way back in season 1 when Eren half shifted to protect Mikasa and Armin from the cannons? It was just dirt and grass and after Eren shifted there were flowers around the area something that Armin noticed wasn't there before. I think the Titans actually make the earth richer you know after stomping over it lol.
@@steak5038 Uh, no they do not do that. Also Colossal type titans emit so much heat they burn everything in proximity to them. Even if one wanted to concede that maybe the trampled soil left behind could be considered fertilized, that’s still killing nearly every single type of animals and plant that are larger than microorganisms. And while microorganisms are the most important in regard to the biosphere, killing all organisms larger than them would still devastate the biosphere’s ecological health in general.
@@steak5038... 🤦🏻♂️
no need to speak.. - Olenna Tyrell
@@TheoVorster And yet they did do that. Marley has theorized that the source of all organic material is responsible for the titans powers. One second Eren,Mikasa, and Armin are standing on a brick road and the next second flowers have sprouted after being exposed to the heat and steam of Erens titan. I get what you're saying but you're trying to bring our logic into a show where people turn into giants. I'm using the shows own logic to support my claims. But I think you are right about the animals I can't imagine them not getting squished or roasted.
@@steak5038 okay I went back and rewatched the bits of episodes 9 and 10, and yes Armin does comment on some flowers being there that weren’t there before. Unfortunately though, that was a anime original scene Wit added. I also went back and checked the equivalent manga chapter (chapter 11), and there isn’t any equivalent scene to that. Also I’ve read the manga already and I can tell you that the idea of Titan’s making plants/life grow, doesn’t pop up later or at all.
I think one of the biggest reasons as to why I'm still Team Eren, regardless of what is about to happen with the rumbling, is that even after everything that happened to them in the previous seasons, they tried multiple methods to achieve a peaceful ending. If I remember correctly, Paradis Island tried sending letters to the outside world as a symbol of raising the white flag saying that they don't wish to fight anymore and would rather the 2000 year long war come to an end. However, Marley didn't want to accept that peaceful ending and sent the message back saying they don't care esssentially. Understandably, it'd be hard to trust Paradis not to launch an attack with the power that they were in possession of so you can give them that. In Part 1 of this season though, Eren - whilst knowing the future - was hopeful that perhaps they may change their minds and chose to go undercover for the big announcement which resulted in the Declaration of War. The outside world is so bent on going along with Marley's ideals of prolonging Paradis' suffering for sins they didn't even commit themselves. The world really forced Eren to play this card which was only ever going to be the last resort if all else failed - which it did. If the entire world was coming after a small island of people who knew nothing of their past until recently, despite their peaceful efforts, I see no other way for Paradis to come out of this alive. You could argue that Eren was the one that influenced Marley's decision to go along with this final offensive attack but Paradis' end was inevitable and was going to eventually come around in time. This is evident when Marley sent Reiner and everyone else to infiltrate and attack the island. It's messed up but Eren's really trying to protect this little island that the world is trying to eradicate with what they have left which is unfortunately the deadliest option of all. It's no mercy from here on out
i honestly think eren is doing this to bring them together by becoming the main antagonist so everyone can join forces against eren kinda like when all the villages in naruto had to go against madara and obito, bringing peace but with a hard cost.
@@jay2d444 I like that
@@jay2d444 its more suitable comparison with Lelouch then
@@jay2d444 feels far too idealistic for aot world, I mean world hates eldians to current day for what their ancestors did like some 1000s of years ago, what makes you think that they will be all dandy with eldians now that one of their own will do same atrocity as past?
@@infamouspotato2028Well with the damage the rumbling will do causing anymore war after this event would be a bad decision on both sides.
Eren: Getting rid of our race? I could never agree to a plan that messed up. Sorry, brother.
Zeke: Oh. I see.
Eren: Instead, I'll get rid of all the other races instead..
Zeke: *NANI?*
Already saw this comment in a another reaction video. I`m pretty sure it was you. Gonna find you in other reactions and will like the comment. This was hilarious.
Racist Titan lol
U dont kill the victims but the killer basic Logic…something u lack
@@hamsa2903 ¿Were truly innocent the eldians?
@@elterrestresinmanos5078 the only reason marley attacked eldia was because of resources only eldia had
You know a series is good when both sides have valid arguments. Really appreciated listening to your afterthoughts conversation, it was great seeing you guys sort out how both Eren, Eldia and Marley got to that breaking point.
And hats off to you guys for recognising the real scum bag of this series, Fritz. And how that messed up Ymir so much, she remained enslaved in the afterlife.
Marley is stupid, they killed people of paradis for the crimes that eldian's ancestors did. This is not justified and so eren is doing right
@@aryan-zi1dn Fitting username, but no, even enslaving a whole ass people and routinely massacreing their kin doesn't justify the ultimate genocide.
Hell, if I had to assign myself to a team, I'd also be team Eren, but objectively it's not the right team to choose. I 100% understand where he comes from and how it's pretty much that or the people of Paradis are just murdered, while their peeps on the main land stay enslaved forever.
It's a choice completely based in emotion.
@@aryan-zi1dnEren is doing it to everyone, not just Marley. Even to friendly nations like Hizuru. He's the villain.
its crazy how ymir was waiting all this time for someone to ask her a simple question. ''do YOU want to do it?''
What I find funny is that Zeke is actually completely OPPOSITE to the goal of the King. He wants all Eldians to die out, he wants to Titan power to cease existing, but the way he's "commanding" Ymir like the King (also the fact that he's royal), makes people think like he IS a parallel to the King when in reality Zeke is quite far from it in terms of motive.
Idk about the motive part, king fritz also wanted to die out in the walls my the Marley if they ever attack. It was the founding titans ideology that king fritz imprinted in the found titans(explained on the declarationof war, ep) , like Frida Fritz.
I guess they are sorta the same in terms of just dying out.
@@oliviarose7090 I think you are mistaking King Fritz for KARL Fritz (the first King of PARADIS). KARL Fritz was a pacifist who decided to wall up, the actual first King Fritz we see in Ymir's backstory was a full-blown conqueror.
@@magicfist482 OoO omgosh your right, sorry for my mislead info comment. Ngl I've been sorta confused when people brought up the difference between Zeke and Fritz.
Now ik, thxs for clarifying this comparison for me :)
and for zeke freedom for eldians was dying out opposite to eren
different motive, but same way of doing things arrogantly
Zeke cant see past his own nose and ignorance. At this point Eden might as well be a literal satan, but at least he has a deeper devotion for his ideals that gives people the choice to fight.
I get Rob though. It's a fucked up world, and Eren is just giving back after years of being a victim himself
And after Paradis tried pacific methods That failed
that's like if all the black ppl suddenly decide to commit genocide, not only on whites but on all the other races. "Look I'm just protecting my people" tf
@@tra-guyd5209 its more like if white people getting fucked by black people because of what their ancestor did to the black people, and now one white people (eren) destroy the entire race including non black.
This i think make more sense.
@@tra-guyd5209 I feel like the white people would be the eldians in this case cause they started the it and the Marley people are black cause they got them back for what they did
@@tra-guyd5209 well no because it’s already been shown that just about everyone hates Eldians, (when they held the ball meeting with all the nations of power) Except the ones that are allied with paradise island
Technically speaking Ymir isn’t Eldian since she was captured and made a slave right? So I feel like the cruelty of the original eldian empire rests completely on the first king and his ideas and Marley and Ymir/her kids were both victims I guess
Exactly a lot of people are not catching that
Do we see anyone that is eldian but not a subject of Ymir? I think through the years descendants of ymir and eldians imtermingled to the point where all Eldians currently are subjects of Ymir especially on the island.
@@tako4mvp719
There actually are some known Eldians who are not Subjects of Ymir. This detail was basically left out of the anime but Reiner, Annie and Bertholdt spoke about them when they were in the walls. The Fake King and his family are non SoY Eldians who were given power by the Reiss family in exchange for their loyalty.
@@TheTheThe_ so are you saying the warriors/Marley knew of Ymir’s true origins and the fact that she wasn’t an eldian and was enslaved? It seemed to me like the true history had been lost to everyone. I haven’t read the manga so just speculating here
@@tako4mvp719 The noble houses during the Reiss reign didn't have Ymir's blood, hence why the Founding's memory erasure didn't affect them.
How is rob sometimes the dumbest one and other times a genius😂
Y’all still don’t understand the definition. Protagonist is simply the main character. Has nothing to do with being good or evil.
Would you be able to say Eren’s the villain?
@@eanderson9599 Yes. He is committing genocide.
@@eanderson9599 there is no villian in aot🤦🏽♂️do yall lack brain capscity…this is not OP its not that simple…..the whole world wanted to coming genocide against the whole Marion of marley….and he turned the tabel….nobody is good its just who wins and who losese
@@AfroWarren there is no villian in aot🤦🏽♂️do yall lack brain capscity…this is not OP its not that simple…..the whole world wanted to coming genocide against the whole Marion of marley….and he turned the tabel….nobody is good its just who wins and who losese
@Attack On Titan : The Final Season there is no villian in aot🤦🏽♂️do yall lack brain capscity…this is not OP its not that simple…..the whole world wanted to coming genocide against the whole Marion of marley….and he turned the tabel….nobody is good its just who wins and who losese
The most iconic anime Sunday ever. Eren said imma use racism to end racism 😭 Like that one Game of Thrones episode, the minimal dialogue and lone OSTs just leaves you speechless. Seeing Ymir's built up rage crumble with the walls is literally spine chilling. She was in some eternal pain that lingered through generations waiting for someone to free her from that sad reality.
Winds of Winter? The wildfire episode you mean?
Can’t be racist if there’s only one race
@@taviontaylor5742 did you forget onyankopon
God you people are embarassing, just spamming the word "racism"
@@CoolGuy-om4il I mean...the eldians are a race.
ymir was tormented by her need to be wanted, loved ,and acknowledged, she didnt want to be left alone,
which is something the manga didnt explain really well, the anime added a lot more exposition dialogues to actually make sense the whole thing, like fritz saying the build bridge and pathed mountains
when you look closely the Coordinate (the Paths) has only three projections in the beginning , when Ymir was eaten by her three daughters...later as the number of successors and more titan shifters started appearing the projections in the paths grew in number.
now we getting to these philospohpical talks. this is why Sahsa's dad is the smartest dude in the show. adults gotta shoulder the burden of the past and not pass it down or else the cycle continues.
Its funny how Eren's actions apply to what you had just qoute. Eren is not willing to pass his position to others so he will instead do it all her and now.
Yeah eren was about to end the curse of titans right there so that it wont be pass on to the next generations
@@Snzn18 pretty much
He feels it’s not worth the gamble to go with armins plan for example. Or to let the possibility of the rest of the world coming for paradise after Marley.
That's the whole point
Zeke stops the cycle by killing off Eldians
(slave mentality)
Eren stops cycle by killing everyone but Eldians (freedom mentality)
Eren Season 3: “If we kill all of our enemies beyond the sea will we finally be free?”
Eren Season 4: “Yes.”
Rumbling. Rumbling. It’s coming!
17:22 "Of all people, the cordinate.. has fallen into the hands of the worst possible person. The last person in the world who should posses that power... is you, Eren" - Reiner
"A hero will sacrifice you to save the world, but a villain will sacrifice the world to save you"
I see similarities in Anakin Skywalker and Eren Yaeger. You could argue that Anakin was convinced that the Jedi were the true enemy and that he was acting just to save his wife. The lengths people will go to to save there loved ones.
14:48 I can't believe this happened but out of all the reactors I watched I'm actually agreeing with Rob
When Rob actually is present in watching a show he's great. When he decides to hate one character for some made up ass reason he's annoying.
@@jblakk6768 Dude nobody is accusing anybody of anything. Chill
We all judge based on our own personal experiences anyway
@@jblakk6768 those innocent people and kids was gonna be groomed to hate paradise so either way it was kill or be killed nobody’s right or wrong but let’s not act like erens choice isn’t the only choice
@@jblakk6768 Eren isn’t doing this because he hates marley (or the world) or to get justiice for the eldians. He said so himself when he talked with Reiner, he acknowledges that not everyone outside of paradise is an enemy there are plenty of good people like falco mixed in with all of the scumbags just like on paradise. However he has to keep moving forward not out of hatred but the need to protect paradise and more importantly all the people he cares about (also his line when talking with Zeke about stealing someones freedom if they attempted to steal his). If you watched the attack on Marley you can see Eren listening to Tybur’s speech and almost looks saddened/resigned when he hears his suspicions/future memories are correct, when Tybur announces the attack and genocide of his people. I think we can all agree if we take a non biased viewpoint that Zekes plan is more humane and “good” (or atleast the lesser of the two evils) compared to what Eren wants to do.
Im not siding with eren because I think what he’s doing is the right thing to do I know objectively speaking what Eren is doing is evil. However I hope he wins because it’s the only way that can guarantee the survival of all the characters Ive grown to love over the years, because thats face it all the other options that were given to us and Eren would not give the characters a happy ending.
@@kwaaajohn9432 So basically... kill them before they are taught anything, before they even DO anything... because that is definitely not hypocritical...
The tree represents Yggdrassil, the Hallucigenia (that worm like creature in the sea) represents Níðhöggr, the Serpent that dwells inside Yggdrassil. The 9 titans represents the 9 realms of Norse Mythology.
Also since people haven’t been noticing but the entirety of Eldia is based on Germany.
@@maydaymalone1275 yeah facts, makes sense when Rob says Eren is like Germany fighting rest of the world
@@maydaymalone1275 That doesn't really require calling out. It's a very obvious reference to WWII. Too obvious, one could argue, given the "wear your armbands" thing in the first few seconds of that flashback.
Although I will say that it's nice to see a story criticize the "generational guilt" bullshit that's pushed on Germans even today.
You know what's more depressing? 2000 years is like a Zillion years in the paths because time moves a lot differently there. Ymir has been waiting for that long man, poor girl.
True, time is so slow there. Like in the real world Eren’s head was in Zeke’s hand for like 1 second. But in the paths they were going through years of memories.
Can’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree with Rob 100% on this take. They literally want to WIPE OUT all eldians. They declared war on eldia, they turned innocent eldians into titans to keep them inside the walls, but that STILL wasn’t enough for them. They then brought the war straight through the walls and killed innocent eldians. The outside world was literally never going to stop. The world declared war on Eldia, and they lost; how exactly does this make Eren evil? It’s either eradicate your enemy, or let your enemy eradicate you…
Facts. There’s all of these people online trying to get philosophical but they know damn well if they had a nuke, and the ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET showed up to their backyard family reunion to wipe them out, they would push that button.
eldians started it. they started war against marley
@@tra-guyd5209 And they aren’t excused. I don’t blame Marley for rising up. But we are talking 1 persons perspective. Erens
God, you people are embarassing, a small rumblig to defend Paradis would be enough but Eren wants freedom, and killing millions of innocent foreigners is what makes Eren feel free. That's it, that's the point of Eren character, that's why the narrative shows him as a villain, live with it.
@@Phillyd-cy3ex Wow Hitler would be proud of you.
This episode was so great! Another 10/10 from the walks breaking,the OST’s,Eren escaping the chains and the ymir backstory! Eren message aswell was 😮💨
All I kept hearing throughout this episode was: 🎶Rumbling, Rumbling, it's coming
Rumbling, Rumbling 🎶
Man Rob just gave the most humble lesson about the never ending cycle of hatred and when you don't deal with the PTSD of that pain. What did you expect it was going to happen? Right? Loosing loved ones, being slaves to despotic rulers, sacrificing yourself and your loved ones for the satisfaction of their interests, course Ymir, and Eren 2000 years later, were going to react when being subject to an act of unprovoked violence?
Eren's course of action was the only one to take, just like Rob said.
Eren said: “This World beyond Paradis Island shall know Pain”
29:38 yooo pat trying not to laugh at his voice crack got me dying he was out of it 😭😭😭
ABOUT HOW YMIR GOT THE POWERS.
It's loosely based on an organism called Hallucigenia that basically a lot of life dervies from. It looks exactly how it did in the anime, like a spine without a head.
Also the creature is somewhat based on the tree of life from norse mythology.
That's the short version. Someone in the comments will probably explain it more.
Either way, the author did his research!
This is truly one of the best episodes that has dropped in the AOT series! Yimir's backstory is sad because she was used like a tool and Eren was the first human that saw her a human being and gave some of her power to Eren to unleash the rumbling
rob is always spot on with his analysis!
As a motion graphics creator I want to say that you guys have so cool graphics identity! I usually create not so dynamic video templates, but anyway it inspired me to create similar project. Great job!
AOT truly shows what generational trauma can cause. Good lord. Storytelling in this anime is wild and truly unmatched.
It’s also scary how Slavery can actually leave a conditional effect on people minds. She granted the most powerful and terrifying gift to shift into a giant colossus and she remains loyal to a tyrant douchebag that treated her through as though she was nothing more than a mere weapon. She did nothing for her people other than conquer. Her mind was corrupt but her heart was still pure. That’s the type of shit nice people are until they snap. Be nice long enough to see yourself turn into a slave and conditioned. She really didn’t know how far she could go as a person. She has no identity to herself. That’s the literal tyranny and what slavery could do to a person even remain loyal to guy pulling the strings. No sense of rational thought other than trying escaping the punishment that may come from the master. In the name of survival and not getting beat you will do anything. No one knows better other than a child whose in trouble. She’s another victim of what we call the matrix.
Team Eren since the beginning! I love how this episode divided everyone to stand for Eren or call him absolute evil. And if you're suprised that Eren used the Rumbling remember what he said at the end of season 3: if we kill everyone on the other side of the sea, we'll be free. He told you years ago!
I can’t help but remember what he said at the end of the first season as he was about to devour Annie. “I will destroy the world.”
Only until you barely survive a massive attack of the rumbling leaving all your loved ones trampled. The lack of empathy is impressive.
Really love the discussion that you guys got there. Lit.
I have waited so long for this few chapters to be animated. Mappa truly nailed it with their adaptation. Also Yuki Kaji's voice acting is insane in this episode man.
The thing people don't understand about aot is that NO ONE is evil or good, eren isn't evil, buts he's also not good. same with Mikasa, Armin, Zeke etc. you also don't need to kill someone to be considered either. People keep saying wether eren is evil or not but he literally isn't either of them. Aot isn't a traditional shonen anime, eren isn't a traditional shonen character. Shonen animes and main characters see the world black and white, (friendship saves the day bs) eldians are the white and everyone else is the black, no. This anime shows the world is grey. eren from season 1-3 saw the world and acted like the world was black and white and he was the good guy and anyone to appose him was a bad guy. Now he sees everything for how it is, i bet he even doesn't think of himself as a hero or a bad guy.
RT TV, what we just witnessed, that right there, is the epitome of storytelling. Isayama stay GOATED for writing one of the greatest stories ever told. The Rumbling.. has finally started. There is no going back from this. All the walls in Paradis have crumbled. There are no walls in Attack on Titan anymore. 2000 Years in the making, and Isayama's writing finally paid off. Let that fact sink in. And to think there is more to come. From episode 1 "To You, in 2000 Years" to "From You, 2000 Years Ago" finally came to light and is in the books of history. Unreal.
The guy of the left corner describe my entire reaction to this episode jejjeej I feel you dude!
You go Rob! Love your takes. Spitting 🔥
Everyone is forgetting that there was a plan to use a partial Rumbling to intimidate the world in order to give Eldia enough time to form diplomatic relationships with other nations because of their resources.
Eren rejected that plan because it meant Historia would have to have kids and the Founding Titan would have to be passed down for a few generations. Historia was on board for this plan for her people and even still went and got pregnant. Instead of a possible peaceful solution, Eren went with global genocide.
He’s a complete psychopath. “Snapping” like rob suggests, isn’t a good excuse or justifiable to killing off the WHOLE world so violently. Being near a wall titan incinerates you. And being underneath one turns your into paper. So Eren leveled and BURNED most of the landmass.
@@peacepipe6695 he’s not justifying, he’s just explaining 16:34, he explained it perfectly
Either y'all dont pay attention or watch with your brains turned off . Am so tired of this argument. You really think the people hell bent on destroying paradis are suddenly going to finally backoff because of partial rumbling. That will only further prove to the world how much more of a threat paradis really is and the more reason why they need to be destroyed.
After the kings warning they waited for years and still attacked..same will happen if they partial rumble.They will keep sending eldian warriors as spies to steal the founding
or advance weaponry to attack..which will be them against the world
You have to understand that the world will never leave paradis alone until they are wiped out.Peace with paradis is never an option to the world. Eren literally has no choice
@@foxx8x preach 👌🏾💯
@@foxx8x well as a manga reader they definitely think that's the case
If you go back to one of the attack on Titan endings, there was a painting of Ymir’s daughters eating her. In other words, they were hinting about it the entire time
Great discussion fellas. This show is my favorite to listen to after the reaction.
This episode was actually insane. I’m hyped to see what happens next.
Rob speaking fax tho, Eren is a monster created by the outside world’s ignorance, hatred, and evil intentions.
Marley is stupid, they killed people of paradis for the crimes that eldian's ancestors did. This is not justified and so eren is doing right
@@aryan-zi1dn and on top of that, they declared war on them with the summit of the world.
@@impyasad ikr
The coordinates started with 3 breaches rose , sina and Maria then it expended with Ymir grandchildren great grandchildren etc as Ymir bloodline goes on you can see more branches
Not just grand childrens though.
Include the eldians that are injected with titan juice too.
Since it is just the royal blood that are direct descendants of Ymir.
Meanwhile All eldians became "Compatible" into turning into a titan because the possess similar genes to Ymir since they are of the same race. Or we could you use the information that eldia did came face to face with plagues and for the founding to use its powers as a cure, every eldian was forced to ingest titan fluid so that the Founding can alter their body to be immune with the said plague
The commentary you guys do is great!
LEGGOOOOO!! Been waiting all day for this to drop! Lol
6:48 The number of fingers pointed at Ymir was 13.
And the number of flower petals in the picture when Yumir fell was 9.
What do you think this mean
@@1clean35th 13 years to live and 9 titans. I think it’s symbolism
This is the most realistic theory about Eren and his titan right now. (i say theory because it hasn't been confirmed 100% but i believe its like 95% true.) Because the Attack Titan has the power to view the memories of it's future inheritors, it has the ability to convey and sway one's actions into a certain direction. Eren had a strong sense of freedom ever since he was born (this is where it gets a bit confusing) using the Founding Titan's ability to connect to the subjects of Ymir, Eren set his will and sent it to every single Attack Titan inheritor to ensure that he will receive the Attack Titan in the present we know. (An example of this is when Eren used Zeke and the founding titan ability to appear in the memory with Grisha so that Eren can convince him to steal the founding titan.) Hence the reason why the Attack Titan "fights for freedom" is because Eren instilled his will in all the inheritors of the Attack Titan. The founding titan is not bound by time so ever since Eren was born, future Eren already planned out everything. That is why this future is determined and unchanging, this is the only future that is possible because if not it will create a paradox in time and Grisha would never be on Paradis Island because Eren Kruger wouldn't have fought against Marley for the freedom of Eldians.)
loved the review , understanding the story
I've been waiting for this one, ustedes son los mejores.
Bro... Im feeling a little emotional. The fact that this is the core arc. Ive been watching since 2013, and I see the walls opening up, FINALLY. Damn, such a masterpiece. I might worship Isayama for this 😂
Left dude spits facts. Everything about AoT is so fucked up. Every character is tragic. Eren had no choice in the end, and lived a terrible life
*I WAS WAITING FOR THIS REACTION TO DROP LESGOOO*
*THIS EP WAS INSANE AN ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWING REVELATION LITERALLY HAD ME SPEECHLESS*
My man rob was speechless for a majority of this reaction.
He finally saw his girl Ymir get abused for 2,000 years 😭
Marley is stupid, they killed people of paradis for the crimes that eldian's ancestors did. This is not justified and so eren is doing right
Eren isn’t a hero or villain. He is an anti-hero. Someone with his own code, his own plan. At least his plan, in theory, is for the betterment of his people.
He’s a villain until they switch up in the ending cause no way those inner monologue chapters make him sounds like a hero
He's more-so an anti-villain
He understands and sympathizes with the pain of loss and suffering
However he continues to wipe out all of life outside of the walls, even civilizations that had nothing to do with Marley.
You’re literally calling hitler a anti hero
@@zavthe1371 you know how to read?
@@zavthe1371 hitler doesn’t exist in this anime, stop being hyperbolic.
Episodes like this just make me appreciate Aot and Anime in general
The creature that came out of Eren’s neck resembles a Cambrian lifeform called Hallucigenia, which lived 500 million years ago, during Cambrian period, it was discovered in the Burgess Shale in British Columbia, Canada.
The Burgess Shale is known as the "Origin of Life", due to the vast biodiversity fossilized in it. All lifeforms on the entire planet come from it. We could say Ymir "came into contact" with the Origin of Life, represented by Hallucigenia.
Jig saw would be proud at eren for having the determination to break out of the wrist chains like that in the beginning of the episode. He would be jigsaw’s best player in his challenges
Ymir spent eternity every instant building every titan by hand that was made. Every time someone turned into a titan she would build their body, that’s where it comes from and why it’s so light-it’s made form the sands of Ymir. She fucking spent eternity doing this for the king as a slave-she finally broke free
Imma need comp that sweater as a tank top muscle shirt bout right yesterday.
28:54 the vow renouncing war and the walls were created at the same time by karl fritz which is like 1900 years after ymir died… ymir is not bound by any vow but even after death she still keeps on creating and passing down titans from the coordinate because she is just a slave obeying the order of king fritz (the one who impregnated her) to continue titan dominance. Eren finally makes her realise that she too can make her own choices.
You can see how much Isayama was inspired by Norse mythology. Also, the Great Wall of China has rigor mortis bodies in the wall because the workers would die while building it and they were stuffed into the wall by other workers because of their bodies' stiffness. So he could've gotten the wall titan idea from there as well.
He grew up in a small town that was surrounded by mountains so he always felt trapped and Eren is all the things he doesn’t want to be .Birds can fly so they are free etc..
Watching this anime just reminds of what Pain was saying about the endless cycle of hatred
Honestly, the storytelling and world making of this show is remarkable. True piece of art, the foreshadowing of how Jean & Reiner saw how crazy and deranged they saw Eren was back in the early seasons, down to the language of how Eren saw the outside world(monsters/titans were thought to be the only thing outside the walls) like, see how it all comes together in this episode is crazy. + Ymir backstory is crazy sad but real based on raids & slavery. This might be a Top 2/3 story ever told on television. Animated or not.
As usual Rob with a quality review.
Ik bout as usual
I love how everyone has a different opinion about Eren. Insane well written character.
Inconsistent writing
Shame in the end he's character got massacred
@@yami4277 wdym bruh, his character was written very well all the way end. Which part do you think messed it up?
@@Axel-ye8tt 😂😂😂😂😂😂i only have to laugh cuz we all know that ur a troll u cant be seriouse…i would be worried if u where
@@Axel-ye8tt No, I don’t want that! Eren’s writing finding another consistency? I want his writing to be consistent for 10 years at least!
Protagonist literally means the "main character" of a story. The character of central focus. It doesn't really matter whether or not he's the good guy or the bad one. Therefore, Eren can still be called the protagonist.
Thank you guys for your reaction. I enjoyed your chatting after the video and your different opinions about the conflict in story.Greetings from Ukraine
Im glad my guy on the left brought the context of the situation into the convo
Merliyans used titan powers for their own though like making them slave battle slave fighting against other country with titan so it doesn't really matter who started it first though.. since they were fighting even before yamir got titan powers.. meyliyans kept sending Titans to walls even though people inside the wall had no idea about anything.. they send armored titan colossal Titan to break the wall and kill thousands of people inside now eren is just retaliating..
But if erens retaliation is justified even if innocents will die then Marley is justified because Marleyens have been being oppressed for 1900 years
@@yehyaali4701 I am pretty sure they are the one making slaves out of eldians and brainwashing them.. also they asked for it they send Titans and spy's in wall killed thousands of people when they had no idea why this is happening to them.. so let's just say you got to do whatever to survive and protect what's precious to you
I think you guys completely misunderstood Zeke here. He wanted to sterilize Eldians so that they would die off slowly but "naturally" and in the end people would get their wish of having the Eldians die while they go to the after-life and are freed from this hell, at the same time freeing the world from the Titans. Eren is the one killing everyone else so that only Eldians exist meaning everyone is equal again, since everyone can become a Titan.
Key word Paradis Eidians not all of them
wellz as a fellow manga reader i have the same face watching these episodes get animated from when i read these chapters last year. Mappa doing AOT justice 👏🏼
i really like Rob's insight on these conversations
Eren created a paradox where he manipulates some events to his way in the future. Simple manipulation goes a long way. Also if you know the ending it is called “child of evil” and some lyrics include “Ill do whatever it takes to protect you”.
He did not manipulate every single event, that is just exageration. Lol
He just influenced and let some things happen. Grisha is the only one who got really actually manipulated.
Things still happens without Eren superceding things.
If the founding was super convenient then Eren would not even resort to the rumbling.
thats Overexaggeration, otherwise he wouldn't get his head blown off, more like he controlled wills of all past attack titan's to get this result
Gabi: "Fuck... Did I make another mistake again?"
This is one of y'alls best discussions I've witnessed. No trolling or nothing, jus straight analysis and deep-divin' discussion. Good shit. I also agree with Rob. I mean maybe there's some other way Eren could use the power to protect Paradis without genociding the world AND keeping the Paradis Eldians alive. However, he only has like 3-4 years left so whatever "non-violent" solution he comes up with will only be temporary and will change depending on who next inherits the founder. Though his plan is the most crazy and drastic, it's efficient for his goal which is the freedom of the Eldians (especially Paradis Eldians). I include all Eldians because he seems to have sent out a warning to all Eldians to perhaps give them time to prepare or evacuate, but surely he knows the brainwashed Eldians like in Marley are just going to tell the Marleyans rather than run to the island of devils to seek refuge. Then again I guess their fate is their choice at that point (assuming they have the means to flee at this point in time).
this ep got yall sounding like my socratic circles in my ap english class