Let's BREAK this thing | sub250g build
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- #sub250g #FPV #2fiddy
Time for some crash testing. How will this sub250g frame break? Find out!
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I felt worse for the tree than the quad; well done.
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Shame on you thommy
Maybe it's just me but it's kinda hard to hear what you're saying over the music in some parts! Great video and production value though!
agreed, needs audio ducking :)
I can hear it well on my speakers
hmmm ill start paying closer attention and use headphones. thanks for the heads up
@@ummagawdFPV dont stress too much man, its already one hell of a production 😎
@@ummagawdFPV I personally didn't have any issues, but can see where some people could. That's a sick build and you're making me want to get a CNC so I can make my own frames from sheet carbon.
Love seeing this come along!
bot in da housssssssssse
Botgrinder I enjoy the long distance live video today (01-12-21) you almost shit your self when the quad was heading to the river and that was awesome!!!
@@edgarreyes4815 haha thanks bro
Such a nice build series you're creating here, I'm on the edge of my seat in every episode, awesome work 😊
Thanks! It’s a bit of work to make this kind of content, so I appreciate the comment. Let’s me know it’s worth it
I fully agree! Keep it up,@@ummagawdFPV ! 👌
Damn homie way tougher than I thought! I guess this is one of the main directions the hobby is going in! I appreciate your hard work and great skillz while at the same time wishing we didn’t have to worry about all these regulations!
Instead of throwing you should have flown it line of sight into concrete wall for last test! 🤩🤓👹
I love this channel! You and cricket are awesome bro! I hope I get to work with you guys one day!
i feel ya, i wish 350g was the number, it feels awesome there
@@ummagawdFPV build a micro efficient battery and you will be rich!
When is this thing going to be on the market tommy!? I can’t wait for this bad boy!!
well I wasn't planning to release it this early, but y'all are determined lol. So I'm working on launching pre-order this week as soon as I get some confirmation dates from my MFG
@@ummagawdFPV I want one
@@ummagawdFPV I want this frame, :) love you work, can't wait to see what I could do with it. Good job 👍🏾
@@ummagawdFPV love your work! Can I have one to further test?
That "...old-fashioned hand-tossing it..." is what made you the best 'Durability-Reviewer'. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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Tommy, good sir, you are a huge success and it is apparent.
What I felt was important to mention however, is that your realness and transparency are off the charts bro.
WE ALL APPRECIATE those qualities in you thoroughly, and I myself hope to channel those aspects through my work daily as well.
Thank you and MASSIVE CONGREGULARIANS on this sweet new frame.
Looking forward very much to having the little 'fiddy' in The Wulff Fleet soon.
See You In The Sky!
....And that ´s exactly why I´m never gonna design a frame. My soul just wouldn´t survive this.
lol, i have carbon splinters all over my hands and fingers that remind me how much it hurts to break a frame on purpose
Amazing frame tommy!! You Keep pushing our hobby further and further.. first the acrobrat, than the reverse cinewhoop (like beta 95) and now a great durable frame under 250gr.. you're the best of all us!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
7:19, when the tommy flips from qwad love mode to send it mode. This is the R&D I love to see!
It’s painful to do lol
Just before flying my 2Fiddy, watching this video always makes me super confident!!! 😁😆
This is why I have just purchased the Demibot frame. You just can’t do this with bnf, yes they look good and fly great but just don’t have balls to stand an impact. Way to go guys. Keep up the good work.
11:44 what a montage! 😆 💥 😬
Excellent stuff Tommy. Why didn't you fly VLOS into the wall? Just wonderin :-)
hey Bruce! my LOS skills are limited (like bringing the kwad back after losing video), I dont think i could have sent it to the wall with the same speed
Clearly because VLOS flying is too safe, he'd never collide with anything ;)
@@remotecontrolaholic Hahaha
@@remotecontrolaholic Whahahaha, good one!
Bro that thing is awesome. I bet I could break it. Seems like I have the worst luck with little crashes breaking everything and bad crashes don't break much except for my last crash.
The music selection for the pole crash had me HOWLING! So phenomenal to see your process and filming it must have been fun/time consuming!
This is on some serious next level stuff!
The unsung hero in all this is that Li-Po!
11:58 don’t lie to yourself man, it makes perfect sense that the arm broke there since it’s the place with the least carbon on the arm, plus it has a joint with metal, which isn’t flexible, meaning it won’t absorb the energy, therefore making the carbon take all of it, what u need is to reinforce that small point and maybe compensate for the weight with a couple holes elsewhere.
Regardless, this is an amazing job you’ve done so far. And I’m really impressed, not gonna lie. I’ve been thinking about getting into the 250g world and these videos are definitely very informative.
I appreciate you taking us behind the design.
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LMFAO watching that crash footage in high speed with the ding at the end is freaking hilarious!!!! Awsome frame Tommy! can't wait to try it
Freaking love your editing style. I don’t want this series to end lol. If it does I’m hoping you have something else in the pipeline
I’ll pull some thin’ out of my sleeve
I'm convinced the frame for a Sub 250g build is one of the toughest I seen. Take my money I'm ready..lol
Thanks, Tommy - Absolutely love the journey to your 5" 250g build.
Just to let the tree huggers know that no trees where hurt during the filming of this video. Love it Tommy! Keep up the great work.
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I still have Tom's first frame MK1 early version with the little wheels and it's still going strong . I can tell already this one is gonna be Super Strong ...
The guy who helped design vortex250 ummagawd and know he keepd doing it goat and the 250, great job
dang you remember the vortex!!!! you OG!
Strip the Vista and save 13g of Heat sink! I love the Videos! So much work and the Result is awesome!
Great testing Tommy!!!!
Suggestion: For Frame testing only = Build the frame weight it down without using expensive electronics. Say just pieces of lead weight for battery weight camera FC ESC and motors.
That way you could just test the strength of the frame with an actual all up weight of 268 g without the expensive electronics on board smashing the frame into the concrete wall. Just a suggestion it would be a lot cheaper and you could repeat the test many times without fear of ruining your electronics.
yea I've thought of that... but I wanted the authenticity of exactly how it would crash flying vs throwing it.
@@ummagawdFPV I figured as much !!!! Awesome pushing the boundaries brotha keep on innovating!!!!
Tommy- that was astounding. If you were tightening screws, then they stretched from the impact, rather than breaking the arm. You flew it back! Stress fracture? Possibly, but you didn’t X-ray to know. Rinse and repeat a number of times? I was amazed that the motor bearings and shaft were good. Low mass! You have it really really great in that the arm acted as a fuse and absorbed the impact rather than the main body, as designed. Absolutely positively wondermus example of beta testing. Sales date? Need a little brother for your first one..........
5s is dawae...
Glad to see people paying attention to the weight/durability issue finally... Good stuff Tommy
thanks man
I love the music selection for these videos XD Well done my man, love the effort that went into this, keep it up ;)
It's a really nice looking frame, glad it's holding up well
If you needed it crashed, you should’ve called me. I got my Ph. D in “crashlogy” with a concentration in destructive behaviors.
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That is a slick looking frame design, Tommy
Jeebus I want it! Can't wait to see what you put together! I really wish we could petition the powers that be to nudge that weight limit to 300-350g. At the end of the day it's an arbitrary line in the sand and I think there is a lot of benefit/risk ratio left in the equation in favour of safe lightweight operation. It seems aimed at maximum kinetic energy/damage capability...160km/h (45m/s) at 250g = ~500 joules. I guess it's hard to be specific about top speed so they had to more explicitly limit mass...end of the day they all have enough mass to all cause catastrophic fod to a jet engine on ingestion. Rant over...I guess just give us this frame!
A "smashing" video Tommy...! Great job with this little guy, project is going well! 👌👌 stay safe brother 🙏
I see what you did there 😂
@@ummagawdFPV 🤣🤣👊👊 much love brother 🙏🙏
I really love the amount of time and effort that is put into editing your videos. I am also keeping fingers crossed for the project.
Thanks!
That quad is sick! I want one
2fiddy on its way to me super excited
Really excited to see the next in this series, I'm a little late catching this one but hope this comes as a better than never.
Your content is honest, it will keep your subs regardless of your investment into the production. This was brilliant, I grasped more at the cuts than the flights and felt myself engaging in my own builds over the last month allot more.
Thanks Tommy!!
Hi Tommy Great looking little quad. I just finished building my 4in 6s and I came in at 182gm with the same 6s 450ma lipo
I haven't had the nerves yet to do a crash test but it flys great. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
I don't know how to send you a picture of it. But I still have a video on my channel it's a FlexRC Skyhopper 16X16 6s flight stack, 1106 2400kv motors. Caddx Ratel baby.
Oh well... We had Schrödinger, the cat torturer... And now Tommy, the frame torturer! 😂😂😂😂😂
Fantastic job, dude!!!
Stay safe there! 🖖😊
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Having the ability to just send it, for real, has to have a great impact in how good you become at flying. You're proper, man. Maybe I'll chose an Umma frame next time I build something!
I agree... when you don't have to worry so much about breaking, you can focus on trying the things you'd normally be scared to try
Love this video series so much, it shows us the exact reason you say and think the things you do, not just stating it as fact (bob, dronecamps, abert kim etc)
thanks king! im just doin my thang ;)
This series is great! Been watching since ‘1000 steps beach’ with the blackout.
whoa!?!? you are a true OG! ive been wanting to revisit that spot
That frame actually looks dope
Cutting micros is a pain because that 2mm hardware. Snapping 1.8-2mm burr bits for the small guys. Larger frames that let you get away with a 3mm burr bits are pretty trouble free by comparison. As for dust, that is why I chose the machine I did, all my milling is done under water and runs through a filter to capture my spoil/dust.
Wanted to know more about FPV frame designs for long . This series taught me quite a bit but also left with tons of unanswered questions . Hey Tommy why dont you make a more comprehensive video explaining the tools , sciences and expertise needed to be able to design a frame from scratch . After all some engineering minds wanna make it all by themselves and not just keep building other people's frame designs . Love this kind of content !!!
I think I would lose 98% of viewership 5minutes into it lol. I'll try to sprinkle more design logic in future vids though
@@ummagawdFPV really looking forward to it man😁
This is fantastic maybe have a thin bar that goes in between the two front arms, if it take a direct hit it will brake but could spare the camera but let's say one arm gets caught it transfers some of the load to the other arm over some tension. Could sacrifice some grams....
All the preparation, planning and work just to shatter it against a wall... kinda like my hopes & dreams. - I like it
Lol, I really wanted to get into more detail on all that goes into making a frame, but that could be a video all on its own.... because it does hurt to break one just for the sake of breaking it
@@ummagawdFPV I know it couldn't of been easy but you sacrificed for science.
There are a lot of "sub-250 5 inch" things out there, but I have much higher hopes for this one, coming from someone who not only really knows how to design a frame, but knows what freestyle pilots really want and need. Can't wait to try it.
This journey has been amazing! I can't wait until it is finished, you should do a giveaway when you are done! thank you for the amazing content!
thats a great idea. ill give one of the sample prototypes away on the next one
@@ummagawdFPV Thanks :)
It’s so interesting to see how a project like this takes shape, it’s way harder than it could look!
Really appreciate your efforts and what you bring to this hobby! Can’t wait to try out this new gear 🔥
Thanks for the comment Leo
the chills that go to my bones watching a quad get smash on purpose..my worst nightmare in fpv..lol
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Brutal man!
I love this! Knowledge is power and your giving power to the people! Can’t wait to build my own.. wait, does this thing have a name yet? How about the goatee?
My internal project name is the “2Fiddy”
Idk if it's practical on the router you are using but I found that it was worthwhile to cut the carbon underwater to deal with the dust. I just used a cookie sheet and put double sided tape under the carbon, just be careful not to cut into the cookie sheet!
Yup tried it, I it’s been more hassle than it’s worth the few times we’ve done it.
really enjoy this series 🤘🤘
I very much respect your transparency and brutal honesty 🙌🏽
Great crash testing Mr T
The editing on this is on point
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man this makes me fell so much better about crashing my quads... I've babied mine so much and was always worried about crashing. Looks like I've gotta start to go harder!
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You're a very clever and socially intelligent salesman.
👍👍Yep... 3:23 that is how most my crashes "Usually" sound.
Fyi, Aluminum wire is about 1/2 the weight of copper, but it's a whole world of pain to work with. (special crimp terminals or ultrasonic welding are required) Looks like silver wire could save 20% of the wire weight and would still work with standard solder joints. Higher temper insulation on thinner wire might be a better attack, as you can get insulation rated up to 200C pretty easily.
Tommy, very excited for this quad when you’re done. Looking forward to buying and flying it. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
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ever thought about some sort of shock absorbing camera bracket? some kind of shock system. so it has a little give... might be a thought.
Ummagawd! That’s awesome!
Great work buddy.
OMG this thing is strong!!! You did more damage to the grass and tree than the quad
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You da man Tommy. Went from ruining the hobby to saving the hobby! Hahahaha
Not that you ever really ruined it, just was accused of it..
Got my money ready... tell me where to order it from ! Thanks for all you've done brother 💪💣👍
really beautiful Frame and kwad. 😍👍🏻 you gonna hit HomeRun!!!
Great job and great series!
The final arm crash reminded me of an old cheap GE260 I had (or something like that) with foldable arms. They all folded after a crash, due to motor inertia
Quality Content this!
Loving this series
Love seeing the design process.
What's the chances, during an intentional crash, the drone gets deflected away from the object by the props and the frame doesn't even hit?
Maybe the light weight design makes it more easily defected by the props.
Anyone else wince every time you hear that bone crack? I've been all in on your Remixes, had to make some "Junk in the trunk" cages for the vista, but they fly beautifully. I'm all in on these ones too. Ready to switch it all over.
Thanks for the long time support man!
@@ummagawdFPV thank you for supporting this community! I appreciate what you've gone through to get here.
@@ntgCleaner Remix for DJI is in the works too :)
@@ktranization NICE! I have 3 remixes flying and will probably switch them over to either the frame you're talking about or the sub 250 frame here. I'm a big fan of the design!
I think what you have created is less 5" replacement and more of a better explorer lr quad. Some pretty interesting stuff even if a little misguided. 3.5" props, 1806 motors and keeping it dense with a smaller build body is really the answer for what you want. A 5" doesn't fly like a 5" because of the prop size but because of a balance of parameters such as thrust, weight, density and disc loading.
I think that's subjective (a 3.5" on 1806). It sounds like it would be fun. But I'm simply trying to see what can be squeezed out of a 5" lightweight setup, having flown 2.5, 3, and 4" already
@@ummagawdFPV I've built one before, they're a blast for proximity and small area flying and I'll be building another. Also, I found back then that 5050 props tended to "swim" through the air and were actually more efficient than lower pitch props.
I'm digging the soundtrack, especially that first jam!
conclusion; it its like the terminator 1000 from t2, indestructible expect you are a sadist :) excellent job 👍👍👍👍
Great video man! I’m stoked the frame is durable. I can’t wait for it to go on sale!!
That’s strong I brake arms and motor bells almost every time I’m out . Plus the ease of change is really nice when I hit a wall full on only a few minutes to swap one out on location 👍
That was the goal 👍
No, not easy peesy 😁 I really appreciate how much you put into designing the remix it was an awesome frame.. I recently sold my rotor riot remix build for 580🇬🇧 that's around 8OO🇺🇸
More content Tomski😀👍
Wow! That’s an incredibly durable frame for a sub250g 5” quad. I’m so excited about this project! Keep up the great work and stay safe. Ps, that poor tree 🤣
Hey tommy you fly as well as I do when I’m not even product testing!!
Love this video. The transfer of energy from the arm strike into the other arm reminds me of aikido. Also, I now understand more why the arm setup with the contact points. Makes me wonder, if one put a high tension sprint between where the arms touch, if that could help absorb some of the impact without moving it into other parts of the frame. As both arms are still the path it would take.
It should help, but then more weight. The arm ends actually have a hole there so I could attach a brace but after this, I don’t think it’s necessary
@@ummagawdFPV Surely, a small spring, like the yellow on we us on 3d printbeds, can't weigh to much more than the parts of carbon that would need removed to fit it..
And yes, don't call you Surely.. ;)
P.S. - I am still very much a drone newb, hence why I have loved your recent videos. :)
Your production value is insane T! Keep it up
Another killer video in th series, so well made 👍 This quad is looking bombastic, I feel like once the whole thing is all finished up, I'm going to have to shell out some pennies, buy all the bits and build myself one. Keep up the awesome work Tommy, and Happy New Year!
Kudos buddy!! leading the way into the future of sub 250. Jumping on this as soon as released, soldering iron warmed and ready :)
DUUUDE, I'm really impressed by how much abuse the frame can take!!!
Where can I buy it? I want one kit!!!
Great job Tommy! Really appreciate your work on this!
Thanks man! I’ll be opening up pre-orders on my store www.ummagawd.com as soon as I get some confirmation on some dates from my MFG
No trees were harmed, in the production of this video. Ok, ok, 1 tree, but it was fully compensated.
I have the same hat. Looks great on the 3 y/o daughter too
I'm impressed with the ability of the Cadix to stand up to that abuse.
Same! Btw I reseated the ribbon cables yesterday and all is good again
Impressively durable sub 250g freestyler🤟
Oh man, this hurt to watch! Great job!
Man i can’t wait til this is done . 🔥🔥🔥🔥 . Always changing the game 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Hopefully it doesn’t have the same issue as the Moongoat. I purchased a couple of Moongoat frames and after several crashes, the housing that holds the camera has routed out the grooves it sits in and causes jello. No way to avoid other than to never crash....
looks good, shocked those motors survived so well,
3mm shaft, big oversized bearings = stronger than you think :)
Dude's squat sit is legit. Deep squat with feet very close together. Most impressive. It's hard for me to get my feet that close. Oh yeah....and he flies quads pretty good too. J/K. Nice test pilot experiment.
Lol... I got that Asian squat down
My wife , so why do you need this drone ???
Me , because this ones different 😂
Loving theses videos, Tommy!! Really excellent stuff and can't wait for the next one! 👍👍👍
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Perfect design man, get it to break on the arms before anything else. Multiple impacts will damage any frame design. Send it!