You're a gangster, Jay! Some more additional info from a guy who's not a professional but a pretty experienced Builder and nerd. The mpu 6000 was at end of life, and it was not being mass-produced anymore. I do believe the company stopped making it for a couple of years, and now they are making them again in small numbers, but at a much higher price. That's why a lot of manufacturers have shifted over to the BMI 270 and the ICM 42668p. I was having a hell of a time tuning the ICM gyro, until I learned recently that the increased sensitivity was not jiving with the board design on many of the flight controllers. More filtering was needed, not from our end, but in betaflight software. That's now been addressed as of betaflight 4.5. Now my two best flying quads are on the icm onn4.5, but to your point, they do need to be clean of excess vibration resonance. Mumbo jumbo...shut up NERD! 👆🏻🤪 Always love the videos, and I'm always down for storytime. Stay juicy, bro! ❤👊🏻
Dude that's actually really well put, thanks for sharing that. I never actually fully understood it so that's cool! Yeah I'll definitely chuck this tune on 4.5 and see how it goes
Dude you might've just saved me God knows how much more time I've been having the same freaking issues and I'm realizing it just needs to be cleaned up. Fingers crossed. I hope you're right as far as my fc is concerned. Flew Amazing and now it's terrible, seemingly overnight.... thanks G
@@jacuzzijay I think the other lesson im getting from this is that I am dropping the ball on making useful Content like this, because I never feel confident that anyone else is having the same problems I am.... but they probably are... and even if it just helps one person? It's the world to them in that moment! Big! Ty!
If you remember Calculus it's Proportional f(x), Derivative f'(x) and Integral Sf(x). P = how fast the quad will PUSH to obey your commands D = how much will the overshoots be DAMPENED I = While the overshoot is being DAMPENED, it avoids going into infinite back and forth oscillations. It's like a security belt for the D term.
My favorite FC at the moment is the Jhemcu gf30f722 it has the icm gyro, but not all versions of betaflight seem to work with it well, but they are cheap and fly amazing once you do find a firmware version that works properly, i have 4 builds with one of those in it with a skystars ESCs, had to repin the connector of course, they are so good! but i can't stand the bmi gyro at all, has several of those and hated them all, i could never seem to get a good tune with those at all...
Aw yeah I haven't tried a BMI gyro that I know of, but yeah when this ICM one is clean it flies great! Next video ill go over the tune incase your interested
Nice one Jay,Smooth and sharp like laser cut...feels like my quad sounds like a chainsaw now..waiting patiently for your goodness damien,vas y montre nous la bonne sauce!❤
Aw dude if I went back to back with everything as identical as it could maybe I'd notice a difference, but not really overall, it feels a bit crisper but that's about it, pretty much the same though
Haha, your balls were crossed. How do you know that's not the reason for the flight improvement? Now you're gonna have to put that wire back over the Gyro, cross your balls and do another test. Cheers!
Hahahahaha 😂😂 if I'm to do a proper scientific experiment then absolutely I'll have to! Can't be leaving you guys with false information, I won't sleep right!!!
To the naked eye it didn't look like it was touching, so my guess is mostly electrical but possibly in my case I'm sure there must have been a little bit of physical noise, especially if when I was flying around, the wires moved around. Good question, thanks
Rates # rateprofile 0 set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT set roll_rc_rate = 127 set pitch_rc_rate = 129 set yaw_rc_rate = 118 set roll_expo = 23 set pitch_expo = 23 set yaw_expo = 23 set roll_srate = 72 set pitch_srate = 72 set yaw_srate = 68 set tpa_rate = 40
I always try to build as cleanly as possible, if my quad flies like shit it’s not gonna be from a messy build, it’s gonna be from my lack of tuning skills
@@jacuzzijay not sure if your in the same neck of the woods as them but I used to be pretty good friends with some og fpv bros from down under, Vek and Mr.Sue. If you know em tell ‘em I said hey
Yeh bro ICM gyro’s suck tbh, only gyro’s i even like flying on my quads nowadays are MPU6000 and BMI270, they’re the only ones that have got real juice in em 😊
Absolutely dig ya style man. Pretty sure i watched every damn vid of yours 😅 not in a stalker kinda way but more how the fuck did he do that shit! attempts to do jay style sbang ends up stuck in a fricken tree 😂
HEY MATE: our team quadmafia would like to have you as a featured guest on one of our upcoming livestreams we do every Saturday night (flyzonefpv) we usually do q and a, community videos, and have a featured pilot!! Would you be interested?!?! Let me know!!!!!!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
@@jacuzzijay awesome my team pilot leader and the one who does our livestream will reach out to you to set up the Saturday to be on!!!! Can I please get email address or a way he can get in touch with you... his name is Michael Toto flyzonefpv.....he's super chill mate just like you!!!
So a wire was vibrating against the gyro ic and causing a stutter. Makes perfect sense that the gyro is by its nature, very sensitive to being smacked around by a wire knocking on its package. Sorta like your testicles, it doesn't take much of a tap to have you make a funny face.. But Bro, it took you near 7 min. to get to the point, and then you weren't very clear. Glad you got a solution, nothing more frustrating than a problem that doesn't change, not matter what you change in the setup.
Thanks dude, next time I have an issue I'll get your expertise. The solution was also in the description like 1 line in... So I apologise you can't enjoy a couple minutes of fun freestyle before getting to a part of the video you don't even need help in.
All FPV videos should have JJ overdub, telling stories and whatnot. That would be my favorite thing.
Dude that's a good video idea hey, just talking random shit over a raw freestyle pack 😂
This!
Do a radio audio pack haha
@@jacuzzijay please do that. Thank.
@@LumpyFPV it's on dude I love it
I love your commentary…it adds the special Jacuzzi sauce on top that just makes your vids the best!!!
Aw thanks so much man!!! Yeah I might keep it up, appreciate it
You're a gangster, Jay! Some more additional info from a guy who's not a professional but a pretty experienced Builder and nerd. The mpu 6000 was at end of life, and it was not being mass-produced anymore. I do believe the company stopped making it for a couple of years, and now they are making them again in small numbers, but at a much higher price. That's why a lot of manufacturers have shifted over to the BMI 270 and the ICM 42668p. I was having a hell of a time tuning the ICM gyro, until I learned recently that the increased sensitivity was not jiving with the board design on many of the flight controllers. More filtering was needed, not from our end, but in betaflight software. That's now been addressed as of betaflight 4.5. Now my two best flying quads are on the icm onn4.5, but to your point, they do need to be clean of excess vibration resonance.
Mumbo jumbo...shut up NERD! 👆🏻🤪
Always love the videos, and I'm always down for storytime. Stay juicy, bro! ❤👊🏻
Dude that's actually really well put, thanks for sharing that. I never actually fully understood it so that's cool! Yeah I'll definitely chuck this tune on 4.5 and see how it goes
"Oh we are at that part of the relationship" 🤣🤣🤣
Love it!!! Haha
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Rip as always!!!
Hahaha thanks dude, yeah the relationship is going faster than I would've thought 😂
@@jacuzzijay 🤣🤣🤣
How is some of your audio not clipped and used as viral audio 😂😂😂 it’s beyond me. You’re amazing and you know it 😎
Hahahahaha man I gotta start making my stuff more 'viral' 😂
@@jacuzzijay this is better than all the clipped audio I hear on IG or TikTok, you’ll become a gazillionaire dontcha kno!! 😆 keep slayin it my guy!
Dude you might've just saved me God knows how much more time I've been having the same freaking issues and I'm realizing it just needs to be cleaned up. Fingers crossed. I hope you're right as far as my fc is concerned. Flew Amazing and now it's terrible, seemingly overnight.... thanks G
Aw dude how good is that!!! I'm super glad you got it sorted
@@jacuzzijay I think the other lesson im getting from this is that I am dropping the ball on making useful Content like this, because I never feel confident that anyone else is having the same problems I am.... but they probably are... and even if it just helps one person? It's the world to them in that moment! Big! Ty!
"send me a photo of ur quad i was like oh we are at that stage of the friendship"
Damo moves fast... And smooth
I love this video so much. Absolute crack up. Koozi magic dialled to 10! 🤣❤
Hahaha thanks heaps man I'm glad you liked it!!
Awesome man.. You should do a review on the bench for your new setup. Great info bro.
Hell yeah man, it's the next vid 🤙🏻
@@jacuzzijay Looking forward to it bro!
Icm42688p is the one to go. It rips balls if built clean. Amazing video mate and rip session was wicked good. Thanks for the chat and the tip.
Legend dude!! Yeah I'm impresse
If you remember Calculus it's Proportional f(x), Derivative f'(x) and Integral Sf(x).
P = how fast the quad will PUSH to obey your commands
D = how much will the overshoots be DAMPENED
I = While the overshoot is being DAMPENED, it avoids going into infinite back and forth oscillations. It's like a security belt for the D term.
Legend!!! So good !! Love the chit chat .. great info !And a bit of a laugh !!! Need more jujujuice !!!
Thanks man!!! I loved telling a little story while flying, might do it again
My favorite FC at the moment is the Jhemcu gf30f722 it has the icm gyro, but not all versions of betaflight seem to work with it well, but they are cheap and fly amazing once you do find a firmware version that works properly, i have 4 builds with one of those in it with a skystars ESCs, had to repin the connector of course, they are so good! but i can't stand the bmi gyro at all, has several of those and hated them all, i could never seem to get a good tune with those at all...
Aw yeah I haven't tried a BMI gyro that I know of, but yeah when this ICM one is clean it flies great! Next video ill go over the tune incase your interested
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Nice ! Did you use a tvs diode or just a cap ?
Cheers, nah just a cap
Man you’re entertaining 😂 Insane flying too! 👏 Hmmm I could be tempted back to try betaflight again with a blackbird stack!
Damn right dude!!! Honestly it's so easy to setup that I never see myself trying anything else
Jacuzzi jay may you PLEASE tell me your rates or make a profile so we can use them? Or make a video about it
Loving the content brother, keep ‘em coming son Getcha pull! 🤘
Legend dude thanks! They'll keep rolling in don't you worry 🤙🏻
Always fun! Keep it clean baby
Cheers dude!!!
Balls crossed HAHA
Icm feel the best when they mount correctly 🖤
Fucking nice flying btw 💪🏻
Helps when I've got the best tune and stack in town 🙏
Nice one Jay,Smooth and sharp like laser cut...feels like my quad sounds like a chainsaw now..waiting patiently for your goodness damien,vas y montre nous la bonne sauce!❤
Hahahaha dude if mine sounded like a chainsaw id be pumped!!
So, after a good tune with a clean FC do you notice any performance differences in ICM vs MPU gyro?
Aw dude if I went back to back with everything as identical as it could maybe I'd notice a difference, but not really overall, it feels a bit crisper but that's about it, pretty much the same though
2:34 the mr jaku recharge baterry hahah lol saludos genio !!
Hahaha recharge and rip again bro!!
Haha, your balls were crossed. How do you know that's not the reason for the flight improvement? Now you're gonna have to put that wire back over the Gyro, cross your balls and do another test. Cheers!
Hahahahaha 😂😂 if I'm to do a proper scientific experiment then absolutely I'll have to! Can't be leaving you guys with false information, I won't sleep right!!!
You mean the wire is physically touching the gyro or the wire is making electrical noise that interferes with the gyro?
To the naked eye it didn't look like it was touching, so my guess is mostly electrical but possibly in my case I'm sure there must have been a little bit of physical noise, especially if when I was flying around, the wires moved around. Good question, thanks
@@jacuzzijay where exactly do u move the wires to if they have to go from back to front or front to back ? under the esc ?
You had me subbed at testes crossed!!🤞🏻🤙🏻
Aw legend!
THE MF JUICE GOOOOOOSSEEEE 🪿💦
Ka kawwwww baby!!!
Man that intro got me so hyped! I'm gonna go cross my balls RIGHT. NOW.
Hahaha sit on em real right dawg
insane as always 🤘
Thanks bro!!!
What rates are you flying in this vid ?
Rates
# rateprofile 0
set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT
set roll_rc_rate = 127
set pitch_rc_rate = 129
set yaw_rc_rate = 118
set roll_expo = 23
set pitch_expo = 23
set yaw_expo = 23
set roll_srate = 72
set pitch_srate = 72
set yaw_srate = 68
set tpa_rate = 40
Can u help me tuning a Flylens 85??
Yo your nice wit dem sticks yo!
Yewwww cheers dude!!
I always try to build as cleanly as possible, if my quad flies like shit it’s not gonna be from a messy build, it’s gonna be from my lack of tuning skills
Me too, but I would've never thought that a wire *not touching* but near the fc would make it fly worse
@@jacuzzijay the new generation of flight controllers I guess, super sensitive just like the majority of the world
@@jacuzzijay not sure if your in the same neck of the woods as them but I used to be pretty good friends with some og fpv bros from down under, Vek and Mr.Sue. If you know em tell ‘em I said hey
It’s almost like I know what I’m doing.
almost.
Dude fricken credit where's credit is due you know your credit how to due credit on tax when credit return is due, dude, credit 🙏
balls crossed🤣🤣
Stack em up man
Yeh bro ICM gyro’s suck tbh, only gyro’s i even like flying on my quads nowadays are MPU6000 and BMI270, they’re the only ones that have got real juice in em 😊
Right!! Same, but honestly man after fixing this little issue I'm frothing how it flies
Nice RIP bro 🔥
Absolutely dig ya style man. Pretty sure i watched every damn vid of yours 😅 not in a stalker kinda way but more how the fuck did he do that shit! attempts to do jay style sbang ends up stuck in a fricken tree 😂
Hahahaha don't stress bro it's all good I love it! Fingers crossed it's a short tree, I always seem to get them stuck in the tallest ones 😂
SenT!!!
CAPITAL T!
HEY MATE: our team quadmafia would like to have you as a featured guest on one of our upcoming livestreams we do every Saturday night (flyzonefpv) we usually do q and a, community videos, and have a featured pilot!! Would you be interested?!?! Let me know!!!!!!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
So sorry bro, yeah we can try find a time that works!
@@jacuzzijay awesome my team pilot leader and the one who does our livestream will reach out to you to set up the Saturday to be on!!!! Can I please get email address or a way he can get in touch with you... his name is Michael Toto flyzonefpv.....he's super chill mate just like you!!!
Jeez I was wondering why your rips had been so average lately. Jks 😂👍♥️
Hahahaha same hey!!!!
@@jacuzzijay jay could you do a vid on getting into racing or prep for nationals freestyle comp / how the free style comp actually works
@@RookieRay that's a cool idea man, yeah I could. I don't see myself competing in one again unless they're close to home but I could give some tips
@@jacuzzijay just even a ramble over a pack or two about how race days or the nationals free style comp works would be cool
So a wire was vibrating against the gyro ic and causing a stutter. Makes perfect sense that the gyro is by its nature, very sensitive to being smacked around by a wire knocking on its package. Sorta like your testicles, it doesn't take much of a tap to have you make a funny face.. But Bro, it took you near 7 min. to get to the point, and then you weren't very clear. Glad you got a solution, nothing more frustrating than a problem that doesn't change, not matter what you change in the setup.
Thanks dude, next time I have an issue I'll get your expertise. The solution was also in the description like 1 line in... So I apologise you can't enjoy a couple minutes of fun freestyle before getting to a part of the video you don't even need help in.
you shouldnt cross your testicles!
Fark dude it's too late 🥴