Why I'm Ditching Carbon Shoes..
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2024
- I'm ditching carbon shoes for my training. What are your thoughts on training in carbon shoes? Drop your comments below and let's spark a conversation! 🔥👟
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Literally reducing his carbon footprint.
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actually carbon shoes is a good way of storing carbon :P
Winner 😂
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Damm Lionel is fking running bro I’m so fkin happy to see this
This dude would rather be running than fking
I keep coming back to this video. The editing, the lessons, and the overall vibe is just a winner.
Bro it's the music I'm telling you, it matches so perfectly with his vibe, his mission, who he is. Makes it absolutely perfect.
Sitting here eating my breakfast getting absolutely pumped for my workout later watching this. Awesome content!
love that motivation in the second round of 200s by the camera man 😂
Cameraman's on a Segway 😂
what a great episode guys! awesome light and edit Talbot!
Beautiful edit on this one Talbot….had me hooked from start to finish.
Ditto
Me too
Agreed man, top quality production, and the music was wikid. Need to find out those track listings 😂 (pun intended)
Ditto
Its just the guy running and music. I kinda scrolled through and skipped parts and found it still boring.
FANTASTIC editing Talbot! Watched this running off bike on the treadmill. Loved the video angles, music, info on splits, your commentary on those last efforts - fantastic. More of these training vids please!
Damn! Gotta find a way. Me too. Im 65 and after 7 years of no running I am back! Well not quite yet, comeback in progress! I even want to get back on the track after this clip.
Following Lionel since the start of this channel now, actually seeing a difference and loving it- keep it up!
That consistency set to set was 👌
FInd a way! That hit me hard, so simple, but yet such a strong mentality which applies to everything in life.
Brilliant. And I am looking forward to see some top of the podium results coming from this change in training. Never understood why so many train in carbon shoes but I suppose I am just old school too.
No more doubts - the real Lionel is born again! And with him - his self motivation at its best!
And with it, free motivation for all of us 😁
hard work pays off !!! mega job Lionel!
I’m glad to know you will be using carbons on race day. When I saw the title I thought: Lionel don’t do what everyone else is doing to win! Glad is just for training.
Damn it Lionel - i just got hit by a car last week on my run & I'm supposed to rest, but this video makes me want to run... keep up the hard work. This year is the year for you to win again
Awesome workout Lionel ! You are going to kill it in your next race !
Liking how much content your putting out. Keep it up!
That run looks strong. Looks like your pretty much healed up from last couple years,sometimes the body just needs time to heal. Way to stick with it,you know your body and you know what you need. Do what feels right,your doing great and as always still Motivating us all!
Talbot’s choice of music is impeccable as always
Just rewatched this after the Oceanside win. Amazing Lionel! No Limits. I like my HOKA Mach 5s too.
Loving the fire in his belly and the video is just ace, nice work Talbot
Lionel it looks like your running form has gotten better! Keep going brother and put the work in now to celebrate later!!!
Great job on the video Talbot, edits and music were perfect
It’s strange to see Lionel with hair
I train in a heavy shoe and race in a lightweight shoe (both non carbon). It feels so good to run in a lightweight shoe come race day.
That’s the thing, people seem to have forgot that the race shoes give you a benefit when RACING. If you train in them too, no benefit.
Same here, good strategy
What a difference of stride at high speed! Well done!
Impressive how he hits those numbers with almost no springiness on his feet and heel striking, imagining how colossal his aerobic base is
Human eye (not even the best coaches') can't tell which running technique/style is more economical than the other. So this doesn't really say anything 😅
a decent amount of top proffessionals heel strike
heel strike has zero impact on efficiency
I'm on the other side of the world but when I watch your running videos I feel a connection.
Super nice and motivating video, as usual. Keep going ! Any news about the aero testing in the wind tunnel in Germany with the Canyon guys (as announced in a previous video) ?
Quietly video - only just found your channel - great work 👍🏻👍🏻
These videos are an inspiration. Lionel never give up. No Limits for life! Keep it up brother!
Giving up on carbon shoes though. ;)
Beautifully shot and edited 🤟🏽
that bit at the end was so motivational
Find a way!! 💪🏽
8:00 @Talbot such a motivator!! Onwards and Upwards 💪🏽❗️❗
Incredible video production!!
Beautiful video production 😊
Wow what happened to Lionel’s “limp”… it seems to be smoothing out some…. Crushing it💪
With Lionel rocking the blonde hair the theme song for this video should have been Quit Playing Games (with my heart)
Great content and video work.
Brilliant video. Super motivational guys.
And doesn't Lionel's form look better when he's doing speedwork?
Way to go Lionel! Out hustle and out grind everyone, then transcend this work in your races. You do Lionel. Gut it out until the finish line.
I had gone to carbon shoes for a summer and loved having the faster splits in training but in the end I stopped and run only in the taper in my carbon racers… With this approach I’ve hit so many more PBs. I’m not as quick as you but now that you’re on to my secret no chance of catching you.. Also I’ve added in some zero drop shoes for one run a week and that is usually a trail run, I found that helps too.
Every video in which Lionel makes a change, my confidence in him is renewed
So your confidence is renewed weekly lol
Good training motivation Lionel 🔥
Those are cool pair of shades..what are those? And these footage pump me to go back to running, great work
thanks for putting paces in km too
I try to use my carbon a few times a year for hard efforts and races, but otherwise use normal and trail shoes. I like the mental boost for races that carbons give me.
Yeah the mental, and the lack of pressure on knees is a game changer. I always keep 2 pair and break them in then use one for training once a week. Important to train in it regularly to get the full benefit. Hopefully they get cheaper!
Wear one carbon plated shoe and one regular shoe and change every mile.
carbon takes a lot of strain off your lower leg muscles and ligaments which means you're more fresh the next day but also impedes growth and strength development in those ligaments. i thikn it's better longterm to keep carbon for races. i like using the NB1400v6 on the track because it's a super simple flat but they're discontinued. the hoka mach 5 you're using is probably too heavy for a track session but i recommend something like the takumi sen. it doesn't have a carbon plate and is lightweight enough for a fast track session. good middleground between carbon and a low-cushion flat
Takumi Sen still has fiberglass rods though. I am glad I still have a few pairs of Reebok Run Fast Pros to use for track sessions.
it's like Lionel forgot that he almost won the Ironman World Championship in a pair of Skechers.
Those sketchers were pretty good carbon racers
@@MilanSmorethey were not carbon shoes
@@jmw2224 look up Skechers GOrun Speed Elite Hyper
This is exactly it. I have said it over, over and over. Apparently not in any place where people see it. The best approach to training and race day times is to save the carbons for your last two weeks before a race. This will give your body time to adjust to the race day set up and pace. Glad to see you taking up this approach. As you said... put in the work now, enjoy the benefits later!
Love it Talbot Cox!!! Just love it!!
Love my Mach 5’s. Recently switched to the Mach X they’re superb.
He is absolutely right - you lose something. I also ran in them for years and yes they help, but they also make your hoof lazy or lazier. Lionel has especially lazy hoof, he has very little airtime in his step.
If his foot spends more time on the ground it would require more foot strength 🫤
I like his point. You should train in hard conditions to be at your best on race day. I´ve been using carbon over the last year and I feel I am slower than before when I go back to non-carbons
Love to see Lionel do a pure marathon event as part of prep
The reason people like you Lionel is because you represent the idea that working harder makes you better. 👏 bravo
Was there any rest in between each rep? You killing it bro💪🏽🔥
Dude, how late are you training? What happened to getting it done early, food and recovery? Cool video though, great edit. Heart on sleeve ❤
one helluva workout! awesome!
I am sensing something coming!!
Lionel D1OS Sanders!!! We are two brothers of 9 and 10 years old, we are from Spain, we are your number 1 fans!!! Someday we will win the Ironman of Hawaii, but first we want to see you being the king of the island.
Would love to see him run in Raramuri sandals in the next video
There is some thought that the carbon shoes reduce injuries, allowing for increased volume and training. Will be interesting to see if that has any impact on Lionel.
I asked him this in the video but I did not feel it needed to be added but we looked it up and that’s just opinion no scientific evidence behind that statement but you’re right time will tell
its actually the opposite .. carbon shoes can increase injuries
@@David-rh2feno they don’t. The opposite has been proven
@@TalbotCoxMediaruclips.net/video/v_5j7B31V9Y/видео.html
@@Juan_More_Mile "Long term usage of carbon shoes weakens the achilles" Jordan Donnelly, Athlete Innovation Lead at On
Lionel what was your "rest" during the 200s? A 200m jog?
Epic running montage
totally agree with this. I only plate up for races. I love the confidence of running decent session in Hoka Arahi's or similar non glamorous daily trainer.
I'm curious, do you ever run the track in reverse (clockwise) for any reps? great vids lately.....all the vids are great really.....thanks for creating the content!
I know you're asking LS and not me, but I thought I'd weigh in on this.. I run both directions, I'm left-handed and left foot Dominant. Clockwise is easier for me to achieve pace targets. But running both directions balances the force put through both sides equally so I try to ensure I stay balanced, help avoid injury. It also reminds me to push through my legs consistently on corners 💪💪
ohh new video!! awesome
Is LS going to revisit his lactate tests from the fall? The plan was every 8 weeks.
There was a time to watch Lionel run was painful for the viewer, he looks much more "pain free" and smooth in his running today....
Carbon takes the work/impact away from your feet and ankles. If I do track WOs in carbons, I do a barefoot cool down and always easy runs in non-carbons
Awesome video
Lionel will win this year & love the “that’s beta” comment
lol 😅
Haven’t tried the carbon ones yet. Rich people problems ?!?
i did. the same thing i went back to running my fast workouts in non carbon shoes after i really struggled to hit 3:45 min/k in Training sessions were i didn’t have any available.
In fact I still do some of my runs in a pair of 83 Pegasus which were used in marathons back when they were released with great results. This approach helps strengthen my feet and ligaments so that when I go with my Nike Kipchoge AlphaFly's I feel like I can't be stopped.
Good call on ditching the carbons.
Very good the sutitle in portuguese tks. For up, guy!
Wachitng from Brazil.
I for one have never tried carbons due to cost. I can’t afford to race right now much less afford that shoe. In another case I’m running 7:45 tempo pace now so don’t really need them till I can consistently be in the 6’s and faster.
I do all my fast stuff in non carbon shoes. When I put on the race day carbon shoes I almost feel like Im falling forward with every stride.
the overcast + sunrise aesthetic of this video + the music choices just hit for me idk.
Best training video in recent memory.
Yeah, I like the super shoes, but I don't wear them for every interval workout. It's nice to do some workouts in regular trainers to notice the difference more on race day.
It would just be INSANE to see what he could do if he changed his form to not have a heel strike
looks like you are slightly overstriding. a bit more of a forward lean and trying to land under your center of gravity might be a good thing to focus on
Great sound track
im using my novablast 3 for everything interval and Marathon Pace training. I had vaporflys, and i loved them. but they broke at the end of last year. i never really went back to plated shoes for my Street running. I am an ultra Trail runner primarily, and my shoe of choice in the Hoka Tecton X. probably the best shoe ive ever had. its like a slightly bouncier plated mach 5.
I just now bought a a metaspeed sky paris for a few HMs coming up. but thats about it.
#soinspiring. Incredible production value as always. May I ask the title & artists of the song used throughout? it's dreamy
Running with less shoe tech + more speed might be the best chance Lionel has at balancing and fixing his stride mechanics. From those of us in the biomechanics, physiology world, let's all wish him luck
I dont think he will ever "fix" his running form. Its 13+ plus years of running in that form, to change that now im not sure it would be positive, this technique his ingrained in his muscles, joints, neurology. I dont think you can change that and give benefits to his performance honestly.
Back to box section aluminum wheels on the TT bike?
Try the Mach 6 or Fuelcell Rebel v4. No carbon but both snappy .
That is the best I have seen his run form look in years. Does anyone else agree? Or disagree?
He is literally doing what people like me on budget do to conserve their carbon plated shoes. It is expensive so I only use them for fast workout few weeks before race day and race day.
Love it...save the plated shoes for race day. Its easy to get in a mindset of racing your training runs and its not a good thing.
I find that if I do speed work in carbon plates, I injure myself. Now I only use them for races and long runs but in general I try to rotate through my shoes so I don’t grow any imbalances
How long of recovery do you take between the segments of each distance?
Rate these so much and even have them in the same colour! 🎉
Love this.
I also like my Hoka Mach 5 shoes! Good choice