@@minuszero163 It's content, if the bases come out absolutely terrible, it's a funny video, if it somehow comes up with something revolutionary, its also a win :D
Tbh the second base defense would have gone alot different if the defenders didn't leave every door open, I get why you would leave doors open but then don't leave basically every bedroom open, if they wanted the shooting floor gdoor open they should have used the one on the other side since they probably wouldn't break those turrets. They also missed every opportunity to close the doors in favor of getting one kill and then dying.
As a base builder with 3k hours just on ukn, honestly I can say you want peaks, but too many just give the raiders a ton of advantages. Especially with tower raiding being the meta now, a good compound/funnel can win most defenses
@@dweeb25trying to block your own peaks during a raid is nooby af, if you need to block angles during a raid it means you need better peaks or you need to learn the basics of how to control line of sight
Max, I love this idea....But I just thought of something. Logan not putting deployables on the base is almost perfect. You should never order a base with deployables but instead force the people who will defend it to actually USE (I see you had them fill it with loot in the boxes and whatnot, but i mean, go gather shit, use furnaces, build the doors and shit) the base for a couple hours or so building their deployables and getting comfortable inside it, placing what they want, where they want. With of course some quick base tour and guidance by the base builder on his vision of what he would do.
@@carsonfuller3681yeah throwing 3 guys into a base they didnt build and then asking them to defend it is just a recipe for a bad defense ngl, you have to know your base pretty well to have a good raid defense
@@Surr3alD3sign I even struggle building a new design and defending for the first 2-3 times. I tend to not stay in the base a lot to learn it lol I like the PvP aspect of the game😂😂 normally I don’t get to defend much though as everyone offlines nowadays. Although a base someone else builds is even harder to defend. I’d be so confused😂
Defenders did not do a very good job at defending either base. Should have repaired and rebuilt defenses and pushed the attackers back. Steal the attackers rockets and the raid is instantly over.
Great video as usual Max and crew, well done! Honestly, in both instances the defenders didn't utilize either base to it's full potential. On a 3 man, the usual defense consists of one roof, one mid and a compound defender. In both instances they just all stayed on roof. I didn't see any mines, smoke/grenades ore even rockets of any kind ... all of which are extremely important as defense mechanisms for duo/trios going up against bigger raid teams. Everyone is always concerned about the BASE being the focal point to defend where, given the right circumstances, what you USE to defend is even more important than trying to let the base do the work for you. The defenders didn't utilize the compound spawn points or use a ground push strategy because there were a couple of times in both raids where they could have taken a lot of the boom out of the hands of the defenders if they had. Now I am not sure you gave them access to those defense mechanisms I stated but I am sure if they had been able to use them, the outcome with both bases would certainly have been more difficult for the raiders. Just my 2 cents.
I'm a little surprised such a high hour team struggled to utilise the bigger base, maybe that's why the small base held out so well though? Because they didn't need to learn the base all that much or understand how it works, everything is right there in front of you and super close together
@@MaxsRust Small base held out so well you say but i didnt see anything like that they lost full control of the base just by rocketing 4 rockets on small base 2 ladders and they lost full control of the small base u basically lost there , on bigger base they didnt do anything good they stayed on roof dying from raid base again and again while they could try to hold the breach by the help of the turrets which they got many kills , defends didnt do good job maybe because they didnt know the base which is normal , but its not acceptable to leave all doors opens doesnt matter the size of the base.
I'm surprised at the lack of Rust hitmen for hire there are. Like imagine someone just annoys the hell out of you in Rust and you hire guys to pummel their base, or to grief them. I know people would be willing to pay some money to ruin someones day.
idea (you seem to get a lot of these Max): When you can see the raiders are about to find tc, would be cool to switch to the raiders audio to hear their reactions. It basically means the end of the raid at that point so it's the biggest moment from the raiders perspective. Would be cool to hear them on coms as they find/ break tc each time.
Theres lots of builders with Patreon who design custom bases or have exclusive designs for subscribers. You could try to reach out to them and do the same kinda video but with RUclips builders
9:33 - JUMP up onto furnace, and up on roof of furnace, jump over to the base, then up half level to the floor near the top floor... a little too ez to get up there.
Crazy how people instead of closing the garage door/ seal or even just throwing a frag they try to kill 3-4 people as a naked with a picked up AK 😂 Like the defenders know there is a time limit right? 😅
You should do a video where you have 2 teams build 2 bases and then do instead of the usually team swapping you make the builders all on the same team (they'll be the raiders)and make the raid team defend for both bases >:] Reverse reversal
Hey there Max, I am a Rust player with over 3,000 hours with a lot of knowledge doing PvP and defending online raids. I am wondering If I could be apart of the next video that requires a base defender as I'd be really good at it and I would enjoy it also.
Max i want to ask are smokes and grenades and the most important is hight velocity rockets allowed because if they are i never see someone use them in this video, when i play i dont need the best base but i need smoke,grenade,rockets and sealing stuf like lockers, vending,doors and windows(windows bc if there is so many peeks the ussles ones just place window and shoot trough the better one) and flanks around the base are really good too i know in this video cannot use flanks but for other ones, also i will love to see a video you and your friends defend a raid and see what base are you going to build.
Yea so Max, i' sorry to say this but Logan has scammed you. The base he showed you is a youtube base made by @ninirust and is called the Aurora. Sad to see this to be honest but yeah just wanted to bring your attention to that.
Very close actually, however, we actually did this video the same day that got uploaded. I seen her video but didn’t think it was strong enough. So I used the footprint and then changed it in quite a few ways to make it stronger and more defendable. Good eye though!
@@loganellison9562 Hey, so what did you change? the mini chinawall is the same, the widegaps are, the bunkers are, the shooting floor is, the layout is. So what didn't you keep? the furnace placement? xD
@@miawhite-i5gfunny story, I did 2 renditions of the base because footage for the build got lost. But the turret placement is different in mine, the roof is completely different, parts of the honeycomb are changed and the compound is modified to make it something I would have preferred more. I used to footprint like I said, and there is no such thing as an original bunker anymore since facepunch updates them randomly.
Hey bro just found your new channel I used to watch ll your rust videos like 5 years ago on the your main channel I stopped watching nd playing for a couple years and forgot about you and you were one of my faves. You did kinda fall off I see on your main but I see you keeping the grin don your new channel I've subscribed keep it goin love the new content
It’s not hard to defend a base as a trio sounds pretty reasonable when you have a fully built base with compound turrets and kits it’s so much easier to defend than it is to raid
If you cant defend when you have base advantage its a legitimate skill issue. Ive defended 2v16 before, 1v6, 2v10 if you have an actual good design and are relative to the raiders in skill and gear you should be able to win 3-1 odds against you if not higher
I've seen duo's defend 8 mans in my videos, but they built the base themselves etc, so I figured 3 good players would do well, but the raiders played very smart too
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Max you probably allow them to be able to rocket there team8s bc they are rocketing wall etc and the team8s can just run in instead of being careful about it especially in the close places which is part of the base yea yea yea
Me and my mate won a 2 v 30 defence it would of been 4 v 30 but the other 2 got off when they got into shell because they had 3 raid base i have pictures
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gave em way to meany rockets. base is big but not alot of metal or hqm me as an solo could build this on vanilla no cap got 11,437 hours on Rust. my opinion Every defender feels like noobs leaving every door open anf are more focused on getting killa then sealing
120 for that base 😂 Bruh it doesn't even have stackable hqm floors or the open core pixel gap boxes that goes with it. Also the goal should be to find the boom since tc won't matter with externals...which btw aren't even bunkered 😂
you should get different AI models (bing, chatgpt, etc) to design rust bases and see how they do in an online
Great idea
@@MaxsRust But you need to buy chatgpt 4 or is going to do a 2019 base...
have you ever seen GPT AI play chess? you'd know it's a bad idea
@@minuszero163 It's content, if the bases come out absolutely terrible, it's a funny video, if it somehow comes up with something revolutionary, its also a win :D
so smart
those defenders always talking smack, but always playing so bad, hiding, pushing for no reason, not sealing but they make sure to shit talk damn
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Tbh the second base defense would have gone alot different if the defenders didn't leave every door open, I get why you would leave doors open but then don't leave basically every bedroom open, if they wanted the shooting floor gdoor open they should have used the one on the other side since they probably wouldn't break those turrets. They also missed every opportunity to close the doors in favor of getting one kill and then dying.
100% agreed the defenders literally were terrible
now that youve hosted so many of these id really like to see what max can do when hes put on the clock and see how well you do defending.
I was worried someone would say this one day haha
As a base builder with 3k hours just on ukn, honestly I can say you want peaks, but too many just give the raiders a ton of advantages. Especially with tower raiding being the meta now, a good compound/funnel can win most defenses
Lol tired of losing guns to peaks 😂
Nah gimme peaks, u can just windows up where u getting shot fron
@@dweeb25trying to block your own peaks during a raid is nooby af, if you need to block angles during a raid it means you need better peaks or you need to learn the basics of how to control line of sight
@@Surr3alD3sign watch gorlic or even aloneintoykio i think has done it
Max, I love this idea....But I just thought of something. Logan not putting deployables on the base is almost perfect. You should never order a base with deployables but instead force the people who will defend it to actually USE (I see you had them fill it with loot in the boxes and whatnot, but i mean, go gather shit, use furnaces, build the doors and shit) the base for a couple hours or so building their deployables and getting comfortable inside it, placing what they want, where they want.
With of course some quick base tour and guidance by the base builder on his vision of what he would do.
Underrated comment for sure. This would give them way more understanding. I feel this should def be included in the next one
@@carsonfuller3681yeah throwing 3 guys into a base they didnt build and then asking them to defend it is just a recipe for a bad defense ngl, you have to know your base pretty well to have a good raid defense
@@Surr3alD3sign I even struggle building a new design and defending for the first 2-3 times. I tend to not stay in the base a lot to learn it lol I like the PvP aspect of the game😂😂 normally I don’t get to defend much though as everyone offlines nowadays. Although a base someone else builds is even harder to defend. I’d be so confused😂
Defenders did not do a very good job at defending either base. Should have repaired and rebuilt defenses and pushed the attackers back. Steal the attackers rockets and the raid is instantly over.
The backwards hqm wall on the tc on first base was a nice touch lol
Great video as usual Max and crew, well done!
Honestly, in both instances the defenders didn't utilize either base to it's full potential. On a 3 man, the usual defense consists of one roof, one mid and a compound defender. In both instances they just all stayed on roof. I didn't see any mines, smoke/grenades ore even rockets of any kind ... all of which are extremely important as defense mechanisms for duo/trios going up against bigger raid teams. Everyone is always concerned about the BASE being the focal point to defend where, given the right circumstances, what you USE to defend is even more important than trying to let the base do the work for you.
The defenders didn't utilize the compound spawn points or use a ground push strategy because there were a couple of times in both raids where they could have taken a lot of the boom out of the hands of the defenders if they had.
Now I am not sure you gave them access to those defense mechanisms I stated but I am sure if they had been able to use them, the outcome with both bases would certainly have been more difficult for the raiders.
Just my 2 cents.
I'm a little surprised such a high hour team struggled to utilise the bigger base, maybe that's why the small base held out so well though? Because they didn't need to learn the base all that much or understand how it works, everything is right there in front of you and super close together
@@MaxsRust Small base held out so well you say but i didnt see anything like that they lost full control of the base just by rocketing 4 rockets on small base 2 ladders and they lost full control of the small base u basically lost there , on bigger base they didnt do anything good they stayed on roof dying from raid base again and again while they could try to hold the breach by the help of the turrets which they got many kills , defends didnt do good job maybe because they didnt know the base which is normal , but its not acceptable to leave all doors opens doesnt matter the size of the base.
erebus is a W base builder on youtube
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@@ErebusRustyou gotta drop this base design
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the first base is stolen, it's my design the aurora (uploaded on my channel), crazy hes actually selling it on fiver lol
yep ur right, he stole it wtf
I'll let Max know, but you can probably report him on Fiver if you want to
Like you bases nini
Ur bases suck nini
I'm surprised at the lack of Rust hitmen for hire there are. Like imagine someone just annoys the hell out of you in Rust and you hire guys to pummel their base, or to grief them. I know people would be willing to pay some money to ruin someones day.
idea (you seem to get a lot of these Max): When you can see the raiders are about to find tc, would be cool to switch to the raiders audio to hear their reactions. It basically means the end of the raid at that point so it's the biggest moment from the raiders perspective. Would be cool to hear them on coms as they find/ break tc each time.
Theres lots of builders with Patreon who design custom bases or have exclusive designs for subscribers. You could try to reach out to them and do the same kinda video but with RUclips builders
Holy shit, erebus!?!?!? I've used his 2x2 on his YT multiple times!!!!!
9:33 - JUMP up onto furnace, and up on roof of furnace, jump over to the base, then up half level to the floor near the top floor... a little too ez to get up there.
34:16 who got DOMED by that shotgun trap?
first base kinda seams more like a duo base, pretty small
honestly maybe even a solo. If I was playing for like 8 hours and did very well, I could get this up in a day I reckon. I'd need BP's ofc aswell
Crazy how people instead of closing the garage door/ seal or even just throwing a frag they try to kill 3-4 people as a naked with a picked up AK 😂
Like the defenders know there is a time limit right? 😅
You should do a video where you have 2 teams build 2 bases and then do instead of the usually team swapping you make the builders all on the same team (they'll be the raiders)and make the raid team defend for both bases >:]
Reverse reversal
It doesnt help that the defenders left EVERY door open on the bedroom floor so they lost vertical control very quickly on the second base.
The issue is that the deffenders are bad. No cap
yea one defender picked up an ak while covered by a turret and didnt put on armor and died because of it lmfao
why do the raiders never use compound its got the best peaks
i gotta say now that i can see the full base tours aswell i still think u got ripped of but it was fun being in video ty for that
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you should have the defenders show there pov
37:14 that was personal lmao
this kind of video is the best
Hey there Max, I am a Rust player with over 3,000 hours with a lot of knowledge doing PvP and defending online raids. I am wondering If I could be apart of the next video that requires a base defender as I'd be really good at it and I would enjoy it also.
Max i want to ask are smokes and grenades and the most important is hight velocity rockets allowed because if they are i never see someone use them in this video, when i play i dont need the best base but i need smoke,grenade,rockets and sealing stuf like lockers, vending,doors and windows(windows bc if there is so many peeks the ussles ones just place window and shoot trough the better one) and flanks around the base are really good too i know in this video cannot use flanks but for other ones, also i will love to see a video you and your friends defend a raid and see what base are you going to build.
the 10 dollar base is the aurora lol, if u check the build video it has roof bunkers aswell, metal cost and upkeep is easy as a solo/trio
16:00 he didnt put the siren lights u need for the roof peaks, this is what happens with stolen designs i guess
Yea so Max, i' sorry to say this but Logan has scammed you. The base he showed you is a youtube base made by @ninirust and is called the Aurora. Sad to see this to be honest but yeah just wanted to bring your attention to that.
dont worry lmao im dming his admin team about it rn noticed the same thing instantly
Very close actually, however, we actually did this video the same day that got uploaded. I seen her video but didn’t think it was strong enough. So I used the footprint and then changed it in quite a few ways to make it stronger and more defendable. Good eye though!
@@loganellison9562 Hey, so what did you change? the mini chinawall is the same, the widegaps are, the bunkers are, the shooting floor is, the layout is. So what didn't you keep? the furnace placement? xD
@@Not_QuilzzzHD Thank you
@@miawhite-i5gfunny story, I did 2 renditions of the base because footage for the build got lost. But the turret placement is different in mine, the roof is completely different, parts of the honeycomb are changed and the compound is modified to make it something I would have preferred more. I used to footprint like I said, and there is no such thing as an original bunker anymore since facepunch updates them randomly.
Walski would have done it for 5$ and made it 100x better than the 250$
Walski is not a better builder than Erebus 😂😂😂
@@knuckle Drama XD
@@MaxsRust just my opinion/ but it’s the truth am I wrong ? 🤦🏼
I really like the second base design. Is there anywhere I can find the build video?
6:55 he cooked. i thought it was honey comb too lol not bad
$10!!!?? Logan bro DO NOT sale yourself cheap!! $25+ per hour at a bare minimum!
he stole the base i off of nini
Hey bro just found your new channel I used to watch ll your rust videos like 5 years ago on the your main channel I stopped watching nd playing for a couple years and forgot about you and you were one of my faves. You did kinda fall off I see on your main but I see you keeping the grin don your new channel I've subscribed keep it goin love the new content
logans base for the win
Personaly.. I would like 3 defend 5 attack instead of 8.. or just 3v3 not only you check their skills but also the build at the same time
the first base is not comparable to the 250 dollar base, because the first base is a solo/duo base and the other base is a 5-6 man base
Aren’t you Ninis mod and isn’t the first one her base lmao
@@Blue69-_-z yeah, the guy who sold the base design stole it xD kinda cringe
Favors the raider so much why is it a 8v3 I think it should just be a 5v3
I feel like it's pretty realistic for a trio to get online by an 8 man or bigger team. Online raiders like having numbers to their advantage
It’s not hard to defend a base as a trio sounds pretty reasonable when you have a fully built base with compound turrets and kits it’s so much easier to defend than it is to raid
If you cant defend when you have base advantage its a legitimate skill issue. Ive defended 2v16 before, 1v6, 2v10 if you have an actual good design and are relative to the raiders in skill and gear you should be able to win 3-1 odds against you if not higher
I've seen duo's defend 8 mans in my videos, but they built the base themselves etc, so I figured 3 good players would do well, but the raiders played very smart too
SKS WHEN OMFG
i like the format of video
You should do this but have people defend the base and raid it I would for sure watch that vid
Nevermind
Honestly the defenders didnt play with enough urgency
now i wanna see the raiders choice base and have them defend in an 3v8.
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Just a thought...... Put a maze in one of the clan video.?
Let's get real where are the f1 granades smokes and hvs for defenders... who defends a raid like that..
Have you ever seen a alone in tokyo defense??
Max you probably allow them to be able to rocket there team8s bc they are rocketing wall etc and the team8s can just run in instead of being careful about it especially in the close places which is part of the base yea yea yea
the cheap builder was moaning while talking with maxtwo LMAOO
I bet after this video, theres gunna be 500 ppl on fiver selling bases, would also be cool if you could get ob to defend
secret looking sigma
where can i find erebus base
Can we use the base for wipes like can u make a link to the tuto they made
for $10 was completely shit
Ngl, I think this was the defenders fault, not the bases fault.
You should drop the 2nd bases tut
Did Erebus post that base on RUclips
"I know the base it's a 2 by 2 what did you expect". I really cqn't be playing with a child.
Where are the counters?
Sectioning off shooting floor with chain link is very annoying for raiders
love ur vids but u rated the first base wayyyy to high even tho it has ok peeks its outclassed by any thing else
Bro if you gotta play for 3,000 hours to make that jump we got issues.
Maybe try 4 defenders 3 - 8 is a little bit harsh
What gun were you holding?
$250 base came with an attack boar lol
erebus base looks sort of like the anvil from dust
Only thing is in a real server the defenders would have rockets too and probably would just wipe that raid base
one of the defender's sounds like morgz 😭
Me and my mate won a 2 v 30 defence it would of been 4 v 30 but the other 2 got off when they got into shell because they had 3 raid base i have pictures
Since when was a sks In rust pc
the clan raiding were clueless
Love the build
I really enjoy watching your videos. I really dont like promotion of gamblingpages. Especially where there is a younger audience. I hope you find other sponsors and continue delivering good videos.
I would like the video on the 250 base
gave em way to meany rockets. base is big but not alot of metal or hqm me as an solo could build this on vanilla no cap got 11,437 hours on Rust. my opinion Every defender feels like noobs leaving every door open anf are more focused on getting killa then sealing
13:43 am i bricked or is 10 + 9 + 4 not equal 23???? wait it does no??
What gun is that
shoulda bought the design off of spinky
the defenders probably should have just sat AFK in the second raid, they didnt do jack lol
one hundo percent those guys who say "i would build you this for free" will not show up for work day 1,, specialy not with the qulity
WHO THE HELL, is paying $250 for a base build?
How much hours have raiders?
Another vid lets gooo
I don't know if this works on but i'll try thanks!
outnumbered by too much but besides the point the denfers def sold the 2nd base they coulda done better.
is this really rust dosent look like any normal server
120 for that base 😂 Bruh it doesn't even have stackable hqm floors or the open core pixel gap boxes that goes with it. Also the goal should be to find the boom since tc won't matter with externals...which btw aren't even bunkered 😂
Lmao I could’ve been in this vid but my builds are too cheap 😭
I don’t understand why you always favor raiders so much
another amazing video
does this have friendly fire turned off? kinda cheesy
16:40 bros math aint mathin
u can shoot theru the ramps so its useless now
Mate second base was 40 rockets to full raid why u give them 3x that 😂
Nice vid)
defenders were ass tbf
goofy ass defenders never sealing
selling stolen base is crazy :D
ngl i could build you a better base for like a frostbite facemask but still cool video