I’ve recently moved to Cohoes and man is it a dead town. It’s sad because there really is soooo much potential with this city… cute but small downtown area, cheap housing (compared to neighboring cities), super close access to the Hudson/Mohawk River… Hope one day it sees its revival like how Troy is experiencing right now!!
Thanks so Much for this view of Cohoes, New York. I was born there - I am celebrating my 85th birthday this month. My memories of Cohoes are many and full of love and "growing up". I live in Florida now. Sandie
This is great material, capturing the essence of New York State. Telling it how it is, not coming up with fake narratives, just showing how things really are.
@@bojan80 I can relate. I'm moving to Cohoes from downstate because it's cheaper than where I am, and I needed a new place to live. Good luck to you at the post office, or with whatever you decide!
Man Congratulations on a well done video it was really exceptionally done, Ronnell this is what you are best at ! Keep doing more videos like this showing upstate hidden gems from long time fan and renewed subscriber and to the people behind the production of this video I enjoyed your professionalism and integrity .
Have been subscribed for some time. This vid seemed exceptional! The videography, cuts, transitions, angles...everything was top-notch, professional quality! Well done! AND, the music choices & level audio throughout was great! / Aloha, from a former “Albany-ian”!
Those periscopes are part of the city's water system the water intake is just up the street where the power plant is and the building you're standing in front of has the pumps for the city's water supply There were actually three separate canals that ran through Cohoes The Champlain canal ran where 787 is now and the Erie power canal ran along Mohawk Street and the Erie canal used for barges was to the west of the power canal The power canal fed the Mills and drove the water wheels and the belts that ran the sewing machines in the Mills before there was electricity and the Mills had water tanks in the Attic that supplied water for the manufacturing process long before there was electricity or even running water in the city
Very good film. Please consider looking at the old Matton's shipyard which is on Delaware Avenue, Last I heard, it is owned by the state of New York and was going to be developed as a historical landmark. They built and repaired ships and tug boats before the Troy dam was built.
Great to see a a brand-new one among the more formalized Rennell Reed documentaries. It's excellent in every aspect! I think Cohoes has quite a future, but the general society is going to be slow still in getting around to it. What you showed is in good shape. And none of this is about the nastier versions of "gentrification." And the Cohoes Carrybag Company lives on around the world among vinyl record collectors, or let's say a select few. Thanks again for a fine video!
I remember when Peebles Island was still active and I remember the trains going along the Hudson River passed the shipyards just before peoples Island and over the bridge and the train used to run through the middle of Waterford and connect up with the D&H main line on the colony sub running from Albany to Mechanicville
The owner of the mills was given huge grants and tax deferment and when it came time for him to start paying tax he said he would close up the apartments and leave so they have let him keep making money and not having to pay any tax which is what they were touted as a tax base when he started his campaign to renovate the Mills I had access to the plans drawn up by the company that did the initial work and it showed several of the low-income housing high-rises as being gone and when I made the people aware the mayor of the city came looking for me and demanded to know where the hell I got the plans
I moved here four months ago this Sunday. It's a weird hybrid of city/country. I like it so far. Sure, it's not "exciting" and there's not much to do.. but it's quiet, while still being accessible to downtown Troy and Albany by bus if you want to do other things.There's also a lovely bit of nature with the Cohoes Heritage Trail.🙂❤️
When I was a kid we would climb down the rock walls to the river and we would climb up the falls and spend the day on the top of the falls in one of the pools No lots of us spent our summers climbing the falls back when there was very little water that would flow over them
Well-- Am I very pleasantly surprised. Firstly, I am quite ignorant of almost ALL things technical-- particularly as it refers to the present day and age. I was born in Cohoes on 19 September 1832 abd I noticed one other comment or indicate thst he too hadbeen born there and was presently 85 years young. I do not remember a thing about Cohoes as by the time thst it was ever revealed to me that that was my origin, our family had moved around the area and lived in Albany and Troy abd then in Warrensburg before moving to California in 1946. Anyway-- I am aghast at having come upon this videography. It gives me pause as although I am not a religious person-- is someone giving me a clip of a memory to my beginning just before my end? Thank you very much for the very nice look around my Birth place.
It was one of our regular places to traverse/play as kids; incl roaming around the “castle” (Capitol) & spying Albany from far above in the AES observation deck - lived 2 blocks away.
There are tunnels under the Capitol and up Western Ave. There were tunnels to Green St. The incinerator was there and OGS moved a lot of the paper waste from the office buildings to the incinerators You can get from downtown all the way to the office campus and the tunnels are big enough to drive a truck through. There are photos in the state museum of where they took down all the houses to make way for the empire state plaza and the foundation work you can see the sub basement is 8 stories deep. The state health labs are under there, S6 level, and other departments that I didn't know what they were, but very secure. Cool place to get to see when I was a kid and my dad worked for the State. He had to work Christmas and I went with him. There was no one there and I ran around all day. It went on forever. I only saw a fraction of the place. All of the buildings are connected by underground tunnels. The entire state complex is connected and the tunnels even connect to the phone company. They have the main switching center there and they had microwave transmitters on their roof. Really amazing.
i live in cohoes. 3 years on 84 main st, a year on 50 pleasant, and 2 at saratoga sites. if im being honest you just gotta come outside at the right time and people be deep asf.
There are literally hundreds of tunnels underneath the city where the water used to flow to run water wheels in the city and they are still there and I've been in most of them They are sealed off now but back in the seventies and '80s they were easy to access and a lot of them were still filled with running water
@@Lucifersgate999 in front of the Cohoes Community Center, the power canal runs along side of Ogden Mills and it is still underground. It is massive. Many of the tunnels can be accessed from that tunnel. If you look in front of the community center there is a square manhole cover. This opens up to a ladder that goes down about 40 - 50 feet to the bottom of the old Erie power canal. The city was planning on paving over this street, but the manhole is still there. Or it was there when I was there. There is a manhole just up the street from the bowling alley before high street. That one has no ladder. You can hear water flowing in that one. It comes from up on the hill, under the houses along Gardner and makes the turn under the house at high and Columbia st and goes under the right sidewalk in front of the rite aid and under spindle city market. In the 70s there used to be a small open canal from Columbia to New Cortland st. Behind the gas station and burger King. Using a boat you could sail up the underground tunnels that ran parallel to the train tracks and up Columbia st and there are tunnels under mohawk and under remsen that come off that tunnel. There are actually 3 tunnels under Columbia st. At one time one was an open canal, one was for sewage and storm water and the third one I don't know what it was used for. I have looked for an old map showing exactly where all these tunnels are, but I can't find it. The state museum in Albany should have one. The city hall used to have some of these tunnels mapped because they were for sewage. If you are in the Mohawk River behind mill 2 and look up you will see the sewage tunnel high up on the shale cliff. This one runs up parallel to vliet street. On the northwest corner of vliet and n mohawk in front of the building with the smokestack there is a square manhole that goes down into this tunnel. Where the elks is if you go north along the wall there is an opening for the tunnels that ran under n mohawk st. If you walk up the river from the parking lot across from Mohawk st just below the eoks you will find a tunnel at river level. On the south side of town in the canal park there is a stream that runs to the entrance of another tunnel that runs under the south end of town and come out on the other side of 787 This one they put a large cage with a locked gate. In the 70s all these were easy to access and some of us spent years walking around under the city. It is crazy how many tunnels would have access to basements of all the old buildings. Most of them are sealed up but a few doors still exist in basements that go into these tunnels. There is a tunnel under the Shelter Enterprise on the other side of 32. Not sure if you can get in there any more. These tunnels used to have water in them Some of them had sewage that dumped straight into the river. In the 2000s the city had to put in new CSOs and they sealed up some of them so people could not get in them. There is a lot of history in the power canal as it was the original Erie canal that ran from up at the river along Cohoes Crescent road down behind the mills and through the city. The gates of the old locks are still intact under the city in these tunnels. It is incredible to see them. Take lots of flashlight batteries and walkie talkies and make sure 2 people stay above ground and one at the manhole so the radio signal gets to them and check in every 5 minutes And get a gas detector for hydrogen sulfide and CO and CO2 There is no fresh air in the tunnels An air tank is a good idea There was a college professor at union college I think who was down in the tunnels with the mayor in 2005 He would have updated information if you can find him. Video everything if you manage to get in Very few people have ever seen what I saw You will be lucky if you get to see them
@@ocsrc do you know the name of the mayor that was in the tunnels under Cohoes in 2005 I will try to contact him I will try to find his name if you dont know
@@Lucifersgate999 I can't remember. I was in contact with him about the redevelopment plan for the upscale apartments in Mill 4 and the park that was due to replace Cauga Plaza and the community center. The park would sit right on top of the old Erie Power Canal and infrastructure needed to be built to reinforce the ground above the canal. We had a collapse of the roof of the tunnel next to Mill 4. I remember looking over the architect plans for the redevelopment and what would be required to build a new roof in that location before the park would be built. The Mayor may have been the one that was arrested for beating his wife. I remember it was a professor from the college and his assistant and the mayor and 2 DPW workers. The DPW opened the manhole and it was a small opening and the ladder was old and it went down at least 40 feet. The professor was pushing for the city to open up the tunnels as tourists attractions. He had a great plan, but the city didn't pursue it. If you have access to a drone, launch it from the back of the Elks club and fly along the river just north of the Elks. There is a huge opening into these tunnels at the water's edge. When they built the parking lot for Mill 2, they pushed a lot of dirt and debris over the side, but I don't think they sealed it off completely. If it is still there, at low river levels where the height is less than 12 feet, you can wear knee high boots and walk up the river and get to the entrance. There is a parking lot across from Cauga Plaza and you can walk right into the river and go north about 500 feet and enter there The tunnel has a V about 300 feet inside and the one to the right goes another 600 feet to the Erie canal. The Left goes to the tunnels under the city If you go up Vliet street and behind Mill 1 you will see National Grids natural gas equipment and there is a grate and if you look down with a high power flashlight you will see where the right tunnel ends I don't know if that grate opens but there is no ladder, so you can't get down there. But you can see the tunnel from there. There are tunnels running north and south on mohawk st above this tunnel. They run between mill 1 and the street. This was part of the power canal that was covered over. It is a maze of tunnels at different levels. But it is really worth the effort to get into them. The one directly under Mohawk st just about 100 feet from the Elks on the same level as the Elks, it is almost filled with dirt, to block the entrance, but you can climb over the dirt and access the tunnels running north and south. When I was a kid the tunnel entrance there was open and you could walk right in. It was amazing to see how long that tunnel is going up to the water plant where the "periscopes" are. I remember there was a door if you turned left and on the right was a door that opened into Mill 4 basement. It is a wild place to explore. So much of the city's history is hidden beneath the streets. In the middle of remsen street, just south of Columbia is a manhole cover with no label and a couple holes. That accesses one of the tunnels that goes up to the hill. When I was a kid every time it rained that tunnel filled with the water from all the streets and the force of the water would blow that manhole 50 feet in the air and a guest of water would erupt out of it. This happened because they blocked off the exit on the other side of the railroad tracks and put in a pipe that wasn't big enough to handle all the water. When they built the Rite Aid they tapped into that tunnel and added a pipe that runs along the west side of Rite Aid and they added a box underground to hold the water and connected it to the tunnel that runs under the street that connects to White st. I think that is Congress st where they connected to. There is always water and sewage in that one, so you can hear the water at each manhole. If you go, please video your trip. I would love to see these again.
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I’ve recently moved to Cohoes and man is it a dead town. It’s sad because there really is soooo much potential with this city… cute but small downtown area, cheap housing (compared to neighboring cities), super close access to the Hudson/Mohawk River… Hope one day it sees its revival like how Troy is experiencing right now!!
Very interesting - I’m a new Resident and love the area.
Thanks so Much for this view of Cohoes, New York. I was born there - I am celebrating my 85th birthday this month. My memories of Cohoes are many and full of love and "growing up". I live in Florida now. Sandie
Very well done Rennell! I never realized Cohoes had a waterfall. Just beautiful!
No?? Really? Where do you live?
@@m.t.426 Frrr we got a beautiful waterfall only reason this city exist 😂😂
This is great material, capturing the essence of New York State. Telling it how it is, not coming up with fake narratives, just showing how things really are.
I always wondered about Cohoes. Thank you for this docu.
hey i live in cohoes! thanks for teaching me a little more about this place
Thank you. Glad we could be of help. Thank you for watching.
Hi i Got job offer from post office in Cohoes .how is there i am from downstate , looking for cheaper places for living
@@bojan80 I can relate. I'm moving to Cohoes from downstate because it's cheaper than where I am, and I needed a new place to live. Good luck to you at the post office, or with whatever you decide!
Frrrr
Man Congratulations on a well done video it was really exceptionally done, Ronnell this is what you are best at ! Keep doing more videos like this showing upstate hidden gems from long time fan and renewed subscriber and to the people behind the production of this video I enjoyed your professionalism and integrity .
Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
Have been subscribed for some time. This vid seemed exceptional! The videography, cuts, transitions, angles...everything was top-notch, professional quality! Well done! AND, the music choices & level audio throughout was great! / Aloha, from a former “Albany-ian”!
Those periscopes are part of the city's water system the water intake is just up the street where the power plant is and the building you're standing in front of has the pumps for the city's water supply
There were actually three separate canals that ran through Cohoes
The Champlain canal ran where 787 is now and the Erie power canal ran along Mohawk Street and the Erie canal used for barges was to the west of the power canal
The power canal fed the Mills and drove the water wheels and the belts that ran the sewing machines in the Mills before there was electricity and the Mills had water tanks in the Attic that supplied water for the manufacturing process long before there was electricity or even running water in the city
Fantastic video Rennel!
I know a lot about Cohoes and the history and so much is literally under your feet
Thank you for visiting my city
Thanks for shari g ..nice video. I’ll be coming that way from nyc in January
Very good film. Please consider looking at the old Matton's shipyard which is on Delaware Avenue, Last I heard, it is owned by the
state of New York and was going to be developed as a historical landmark. They built and repaired ships and tug boats before the Troy dam
was built.
As a resident of Cohoes, I approve🤗
Very informative.
Great to see a a brand-new one among the more formalized Rennell Reed documentaries. It's excellent in every aspect! I think Cohoes has quite a future, but the general society is going to be slow still in getting around to it. What you showed is in good shape. And none of this is about the nastier versions of "gentrification." And the Cohoes Carrybag Company lives on around the world among vinyl record collectors, or let's say a select few. Thanks again for a fine video!
It does? How? In what way?
This has high production value. The gentleman presents the information well and the music is also nicely chosen.
This was well thought out and i learned something about my wifes home city. Thanks and keep making these videos.
AND....the storyline was very interesting & informative, too. Excellent production!
I live in Cohoes and I never new the history of it great video
I remember when Peebles Island was still active and I remember the trains going along the Hudson River passed the shipyards just before peoples Island and over the bridge and the train used to run through the middle of Waterford and connect up with the D&H main line on the colony sub running from Albany to Mechanicville
Thank you for the video..
Just read Mohawk expanding its economic footprint there. Hope it helps. Ps the Downtown reminds me of Utica in the 80s.
I live and cohoes and you did a very nice job
Nice work 👏
i have lived in cohoes my entire life and when i was a kid on congress street it wasnt dead at all
The owner of the mills was given huge grants and tax deferment and when it came time for him to start paying tax he said he would close up the apartments and leave so they have let him keep making money and not having to pay any tax which is what they were touted as a tax base when he started his campaign to renovate the Mills
I had access to the plans drawn up by the company that did the initial work and it showed several of the low-income housing high-rises as being gone and when I made the people aware the mayor of the city came looking for me and demanded to know where the hell I got the plans
I moved here four months ago this Sunday. It's a weird hybrid of city/country. I like it so far. Sure, it's not "exciting" and there's not much to do.. but it's quiet, while still being accessible to downtown Troy and Albany by bus if you want to do other things.There's also a lovely bit of nature with the Cohoes Heritage Trail.🙂❤️
It's a very walkable city.Its got some nice restaurants.Its got a lovely music hall.
@@m.t.426 Yes yes my city does
When I was a kid we would climb down the rock walls to the river and we would climb up the falls and spend the day on the top of the falls in one of the pools
No lots of us spent our summers climbing the falls back when there was very little water that would flow over them
Well-- Am I very pleasantly surprised. Firstly, I am quite ignorant of almost ALL things technical-- particularly as it refers to the present day and age. I was born in Cohoes on 19 September 1832 abd I noticed one other comment or indicate thst he too hadbeen born there and was presently 85 years young. I do not remember a thing about Cohoes as by the time thst it was ever revealed to me that that was my origin, our family had moved around the area and lived in Albany and Troy abd then in Warrensburg before moving to California in 1946. Anyway-- I am aghast at having come upon this videography. It gives me pause as although I am not a religious person-- is someone giving me a clip of a memory to my beginning just before my end? Thank you very much for the very nice look around my Birth place.
I think cohoes is fine I lived there for about 2 years if I lived in Troy for longer I now live in Miami Florida
There used to be a walking subway from the Albany Capitol building to the Alfred Smith bldg I do not know if it is still in use.
Not too sure on that one.
It was one of our regular places to traverse/play as kids; incl roaming around the “castle” (Capitol) & spying Albany from far above in the AES observation deck - lived 2 blocks away.
I remember that!
There are tunnels under the Capitol and up Western Ave. There were tunnels to Green St. The incinerator was there and OGS moved a lot of the paper waste from the office buildings to the incinerators
You can get from downtown all the way to the office campus and the tunnels are big enough to drive a truck through.
There are photos in the state museum of where they took down all the houses to make way for the empire state plaza and the foundation work you can see the sub basement is 8 stories deep.
The state health labs are under there, S6 level, and other departments that I didn't know what they were, but very secure. Cool place to get to see when I was a kid and my dad worked for the State.
He had to work Christmas and I went with him. There was no one there and I ran around all day.
It went on forever. I only saw a fraction of the place.
All of the buildings are connected by underground tunnels. The entire state complex is connected and the tunnels even connect to the phone company. They have the main switching center there and they had microwave transmitters on their roof.
Really amazing.
i live in cohoes. 3 years on 84 main st, a year on 50 pleasant, and 2 at saratoga sites. if im being honest you just gotta come outside at the right time and people be deep asf.
nice job
I have lived here my whole life.i"m glad it's forgotten.The less people the better
Frr I love my historical city
Periscopes?
So much of the city has been burnt down
Its gloomy because everyone is at work.
There are literally hundreds of tunnels underneath the city where the water used to flow to run water wheels in the city and they are still there and I've been in most of them
They are sealed off now but back in the seventies and '80s they were easy to access and a lot of them were still filled with running water
Do you know anyways to enter them I would love to explore them
@@Lucifersgate999 in front of the Cohoes Community Center, the power canal runs along side of Ogden Mills and it is still underground. It is massive. Many of the tunnels can be accessed from that tunnel. If you look in front of the community center there is a square manhole cover. This opens up to a ladder that goes down about 40 - 50 feet to the bottom of the old Erie power canal. The city was planning on paving over this street, but the manhole is still there. Or it was there when I was there. There is a manhole just up the street from the bowling alley before high street. That one has no ladder. You can hear water flowing in that one. It comes from up on the hill, under the houses along Gardner and makes the turn under the house at high and Columbia st and goes under the right sidewalk in front of the rite aid and under spindle city market. In the 70s there used to be a small open canal from Columbia to New Cortland st. Behind the gas station and burger King. Using a boat you could sail up the underground tunnels that ran parallel to the train tracks and up Columbia st and there are tunnels under mohawk and under remsen that come off that tunnel. There are actually 3 tunnels under Columbia st. At one time one was an open canal, one was for sewage and storm water and the third one I don't know what it was used for. I have looked for an old map showing exactly where all these tunnels are, but I can't find it. The state museum in Albany should have one. The city hall used to have some of these tunnels mapped because they were for sewage.
If you are in the Mohawk River behind mill 2 and look up you will see the sewage tunnel high up on the shale cliff.
This one runs up parallel to vliet street. On the northwest corner of vliet and n mohawk in front of the building with the smokestack there is a square manhole that goes down into this tunnel.
Where the elks is if you go north along the wall there is an opening for the tunnels that ran under n mohawk st.
If you walk up the river from the parking lot across from Mohawk st just below the eoks you will find a tunnel at river level.
On the south side of town in the canal park there is a stream that runs to the entrance of another tunnel that runs under the south end of town and come out on the other side of 787
This one they put a large cage with a locked gate.
In the 70s all these were easy to access and some of us spent years walking around under the city.
It is crazy how many tunnels would have access to basements of all the old buildings.
Most of them are sealed up but a few doors still exist in basements that go into these tunnels.
There is a tunnel under the Shelter Enterprise on the other side of 32. Not sure if you can get in there any more.
These tunnels used to have water in them
Some of them had sewage that dumped straight into the river.
In the 2000s the city had to put in new CSOs and they sealed up some of them so people could not get in them.
There is a lot of history in the power canal as it was the original Erie canal that ran from up at the river along Cohoes Crescent road down behind the mills and through the city. The gates of the old locks are still intact under the city in these tunnels. It is incredible to see them.
Take lots of flashlight batteries and walkie talkies and make sure 2 people stay above ground and one at the manhole so the radio signal gets to them and check in every 5 minutes
And get a gas detector for hydrogen sulfide and CO and CO2
There is no fresh air in the tunnels
An air tank is a good idea
There was a college professor at union college I think who was down in the tunnels with the mayor in 2005
He would have updated information if you can find him.
Video everything if you manage to get in
Very few people have ever seen what I saw
You will be lucky if you get to see them
Thank you for the advice I will do anything I can to explore the history barried under my city
@@ocsrc do you know the name of the mayor that was in the tunnels under Cohoes in 2005 I will try to contact him I will try to find his name if you dont know
@@Lucifersgate999 I can't remember. I was in contact with him about the redevelopment plan for the upscale apartments in Mill 4 and the park that was due to replace Cauga Plaza and the community center. The park would sit right on top of the old Erie Power Canal and infrastructure needed to be built to reinforce the ground above the canal. We had a collapse of the roof of the tunnel next to Mill 4.
I remember looking over the architect plans for the redevelopment and what would be required to build a new roof in that location before the park would be built.
The Mayor may have been the one that was arrested for beating his wife. I remember it was a professor from the college and his assistant and the mayor and 2 DPW workers.
The DPW opened the manhole and it was a small opening and the ladder was old and it went down at least 40 feet.
The professor was pushing for the city to open up the tunnels as tourists attractions. He had a great plan, but the city didn't pursue it.
If you have access to a drone, launch it from the back of the Elks club and fly along the river just north of the Elks. There is a huge opening into these tunnels at the water's edge.
When they built the parking lot for Mill 2, they pushed a lot of dirt and debris over the side, but I don't think they sealed it off completely. If it is still there, at low river levels where the height is less than 12 feet, you can wear knee high boots and walk up the river and get to the entrance.
There is a parking lot across from Cauga Plaza and you can walk right into the river and go north about 500 feet and enter there
The tunnel has a V about 300 feet inside and the one to the right goes another 600 feet to the Erie canal. The Left goes to the tunnels under the city
If you go up Vliet street and behind Mill 1 you will see National Grids natural gas equipment and there is a grate and if you look down with a high power flashlight you will see where the right tunnel ends
I don't know if that grate opens but there is no ladder, so you can't get down there. But you can see the tunnel from there.
There are tunnels running north and south on mohawk st above this tunnel. They run between mill 1 and the street. This was part of the power canal that was covered over.
It is a maze of tunnels at different levels.
But it is really worth the effort to get into them.
The one directly under Mohawk st just about 100 feet from the Elks on the same level as the Elks, it is almost filled with dirt, to block the entrance, but you can climb over the dirt and access the tunnels running north and south.
When I was a kid the tunnel entrance there was open and you could walk right in. It was amazing to see how long that tunnel is going up to the water plant where the "periscopes" are.
I remember there was a door if you turned left and on the right was a door that opened into Mill 4 basement.
It is a wild place to explore.
So much of the city's history is hidden beneath the streets.
In the middle of remsen street, just south of Columbia is a manhole cover with no label and a couple holes.
That accesses one of the tunnels that goes up to the hill.
When I was a kid every time it rained that tunnel filled with the water from all the streets and the force of the water would blow that manhole 50 feet in the air and a guest of water would erupt out of it.
This happened because they blocked off the exit on the other side of the railroad tracks and put in a pipe that wasn't big enough to handle all the water.
When they built the Rite Aid they tapped into that tunnel and added a pipe that runs along the west side of Rite Aid and they added a box underground to hold the water and connected it to the tunnel that runs under the street that connects to White st. I think that is Congress st where they connected to.
There is always water and sewage in that one, so you can hear the water at each manhole.
If you go, please video your trip. I would love to see these again.
You definitely left out a lot of info.
I live in cohoes and a lot of this is not true
1/3 of the city is on assistance
It is the poorest city in upstate NY
I live in cohoes
My grandmother lived on park ave. And growing up would visit her and my mom's family every summer