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Thanks for coming to our beautiful and very expensive country Callum. It used to be nicer, not as much these days thanks to immigration. That pizza looked horrendous 😅 I liked this video, you did a fair assessment of our country.
@@thearpox7873 Das rite! A proper ice breaker, breaks ice as little as possible to get the job done! This is so they could minimize time and energy waste on such meaningless task.
Calling Swedish speaking Finns Swedes is incredibly triggering to all Finns, I guess it's how Irish people feel when someone calls an Irish person british.
That Ed guy sure seemed to like his own imaginary view of finland. Shame you didnt get an actual finn to travel with you instead of a guy who hasnt been able to integrate in 19 years.
I think he moved there mainly because he married a Finnish woman. Also, England sucks, but Finland seems to be doing it's best to bug chase after the same societal contagions that ruined his home country.
My Finn story. I was dating a Finnish girl here in Canada. I used to sauna with her whole family...naked. It was normal and accepted. Eventually we broke up and I met my wife. My Wife's family (not Finnish) had a massive reunion. We were at a resort and our chalet had a big sauna. My father-in-law suggested we all sauna. Aunts, Uncles, all the in-laws headed down to enjoy the heat. I walk into the sauna, totally nude, to find my new family clad in bathing suits.... Finnish culture, you gotta love it!
That's pretty common because anywhere you go you get the 'tourist explanation' of a place that incorporates the old traditions and customs, rather than how how things are typically quite mundane for the locals and that is true almost anywhere you go.
Do you know what other languages translate "railways" as "iron road"? Welsh, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian, German, -Dutch- , Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Icelandic, Polish, Hungarian, Russian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese. Just to name a few. Sometimes the linguistic ignorance of the "lotuseaters" is too annoying.
@@LarsPallesen It's slightly worse, he described it as a weakness of the language or culture (if I recall correctly), when almost every language does this. It's not a bug, it's a feature. Even the English word "carriage" used to mean "horse-drawn carriages" in the 19th century. Also "railway" - rail is the name of the pair of steel tracks, way is a synonym for road. So basically, even English does the same.
I once saw a great headline about Finland being rated the happiest country on earth. The headline was, "Finland is the happiest country in the world, and the Finns aren't happy about it."
In Finland, there are no happy people anywhere, just brainwashed slaves who settle for their slave wages and the brainwashing that mainstream media reports. And I'm Finnish, I've lived here all my life.
13:28 "Moomin is a Finnish cartoon series." Well yes, but more importantly it's a collection of great books illustrated by the author, also a Swedish-speaking Finn. There are a several animated films and series, but the classic one, done in an anime style, was of course a collaboration with Japanese animators.
I have been married to a Finnish woman for 11 years. I am Greek. We have been living in Finland for 5 years, and yes the Finns are a different culture, but they are what they are and they are authentic and honest. As a nation they have suffered many hardships. They are hardworking people. Although it is very difficult to make friends here, I love them for who they are.
I've been listening to Robert Garland's 38 Great Courses lectures, which convey an integrated Greco-Roman history. I find myself loving all things Greek as much as Nero! I'm laughing, but it's so true. I love Greece, and I love Finland; go have a wonderful day!
We "sided with Hitler" because no one else helped. All the allied countries gave mostly platitudes apart from some voluntary donations. We surprisingly wanted to stay independent so lesser evil it was.
@@unter1103 I think ordering millions of people to be killed is bad and so do most finns. Siding with Hitler was an unfortunate neccesity for our nation's survival.
i wasn't a fan of how pro-soviet the war explanation was, with the video painting the continuation war as a rabid expanse rather than as a reclamation of some of the largest cities lost (viipuri and sortavala, for example, were both important culturally, not just militarily). the idea of a greater finland, even "just" the one of the whole of karelia and kola, was one only entertained by jingoist nationalists. also, finland didn't transport any jews to germany, and forbade german soldiers from discriminating finnish jewish soldiers. similar in that fashion to americans in britain trying to segregate black british people to no avail.
@@MERIPURSUThis is somewhat of a misconception, as while we didn't give up any Jews who were Finnish citizens, we did transfer some Jews who had taken refuge here from the pogroms etc. happening Nazi Germany. We did transfer some under a dozen Austrian jews (one of whom had volunteered to fight in the winter war) who came here originally as refugees from Germany, but that was more so because our idiot right wing police chief agreed to hand them over in what was (if I remember correctly) his own decision which hadn't been approved by the government or his superiors in the government. Nevertheless, approved or not it still happened and is a stain in our history, though some would argue siding with Germany no matter the circumstances at that time is as well. Some 47 more jews were also extradited to the USSR in 1942 during a POW exchange with the Soviets, though their religious identity wasn't afaik the reason for their extradition. They might've been Soviet Jews or Jewish refugees from elsewhere in Europe.
Beware if you watch this video as it's just wildly inaccurate. I'm bit over 5 minutes in and decided to just give up. Looks like the dude did a single ChatGPT question worth of research and called it a day. He's just completely off the reservation for even for the simplest of things like nationalities of people, even when the first sentences in their Wikipedia page classify them as Finns (hint, speaking swedish or born in "Swedish Empire" might not mean what you think it does). And a quick glance at the comments doesn't give me any hope for anything better. So, I'd just head over to next video if I were you. Toodles!
@@danieldelaney1377 Lol. If your goal for today is to argue about facts on the internet then go argue with the Swedish speaking Finns who overwhelmingly identify theirselves as Finns. They clearly could learn a thing or two from you. Or any other hundreds of countries that have non-native speaking minorities. Best of luck to you on your journey!
My finn friends died inside, then slowly turned away. They are a few generations removed from the old country, however, so this is all based on built in genetic programming, not anything cultural...
If you want to experience the Finns in their natural habitat, go to a random rally and just yell "oioioioioi" whenever a car goes by. They will accept you as their own in an instant.
They are insanely good really drivers. Unique among all rallying nations, they dig vicious little ditches at the side of their roads just for the extra challenge.
The swastika is an ancient symbol and motif used and spead across the world by the Indo-Europeans. I'm pretty tired of American/Jewish culture of being in a constant state of guilt.
It's actually present in all cultures, even pre-columbian Americans. It is a universal symbol for changing winds and times. But yes, we need to get over the pearl clutching when it appears.
Finns aren't Indo-European but you're right. As the commenter before me already pointed out, it appeared in pretty much all cultures from Native Americans to Europeans, Indians, East Asians and even in very early Judaism.
Helsinki: “A decadent hell hole”, Turku: ”The A**hole of Finland”, Åland: ”A weird place”’, Porvoo: ”Deserted”, Eastern border: “Ruins and swastikas”. I’m glad you were able to have a good look around and make lots of friends. 😂 At least you found Taleban run Afghanistan up to your standards, I’m very glad for both of you.
The asswhole of finland is a very common joke. Are you finnish, because this is a showcase of one national feature that we are very sensitive to critisism
Finnish can be silky smooth honey to ear like: "aja hiljaa sillalla" or brutal like shooting machinegun and rubbing it with barbwire "älä rääkkää sitä räkäjätkää".
@@juhajuntunen7866 "älä rääkkää sitä räkäjätkää" still sounds pretty smooth compared to the average of many other languages. You - and I - are being biased by the meaning of the words.
Dated a Finnish girl for years, and listening to hear voice was the most amazing anti-depressant yet created. Finnish just sounds magical for some reason, it's really beautiful to hear.
Neither Runeberg nor Lönnrot were Swedish. Runeberg spoke Swedish as his first language but was from Finland. While Lönnrot did publish a number of works in Swedish, his first language was Finnish (he didn't learn Swedish until school) Edit: forgot to mention they were ethnically Finnish
@@molotovribbentrop2839 Runeberg was most definitely a Finlandswede, born in Jakobstad, but his ancestry was probably Swedish. Fun note - Mannerheim never properly learned to speak Finnish.
@@robinlindholm1525 Sure, but historically Finlandswedes trace their ancestry to Swedes that moved to what is now Finland from the 12th century onwards. And J. L. Runeberg's grandfather was born in Sweden.
I'm an American. I parked behind a car today, they had 2 bumpster stickers. One was an "autistic pride: because you can't cure who you are" sticker and the other was simply a Finnish flag. I laughed.
We must be the paradise country for autists because instead of small talking and playing a role in public we just ignore each other. No need to do painful masking when people are already acting like you :D I wonder if that could be a strength for getting skilled immigration. All autistic coders welcome
Im a fin and i found this video strange and untruthful. Summers in finland are really beautiful and all the places are full of people, but yes, in the end of summer / autumn, all these public places like moominland will go completely empy(Impressive how dull you could make it also look). You go to every city and find those very few patriotic / nationalistic / USSR vibe things and present it as the true image, which it is very far from. This video felt like a fever dream when i compare it to my finnish reality.
Agreed. Every two minutes he says something that just baffles me. Most of the stuff isn't straightforwardly inaccurate, but presented in a way that is strongly misleading. Even stuff like calling Runeberg et al "Swedish" is an odd choice - they were Finnish, they just spoke the Swedish language. I can't help but wonder whether these choices in presentation were made to make the video more interesting, catchy, or provocative.
Why are you surprised? He is a well known russofile. It's not like you were ever going to get a truthful view from him. This was a good view into how the Russians want everyone else to see Finland. Treat it as a dive into the mind of an English russofile rather than a travel vlog about Finland and it starts making a lot more sense with all the distortions and outright lies.
@@MTB53850 Im not surprised or not not surprised. I dont know him and this video just popped im my feed. I watched it and left a message because i dont want other people from around the world to think this video as truthful
@@lundamyrstrollet1 Fair point. I guess this video gained traction outside the usual suspects who would already know what to expect from Putin's useful idiots.
Fun fact, Mannerheim is the only World War 2 leader who doesn't have an English-language biography...... Because nobody can be bothered enough to learn Finnish for it
The busy Times of tourism are over. 10-20 years ago, on every corner somE Kind of activity or nature Center opened. But the cost to maintain em for 5-10 visitors per day made em unsustainable. And the self servicing places at least in the south were robbed by New inhabitants of finland, so they also are in a desolate state.
"No fun allowed" is the SOP of any government since the 1100's. Remember "huvilupa" or the official government fun regulation bureau fun permit which still sort of exists.
@@WednesdayFin86 are you serious? The change of how ppl spend their freetime is Not regulated by the gov. Its more the fact that young folks rather stay at home playing games or the other ones have the financial possibility to travel through the whole world instead of staying in finland. And by the way you dont often meet folks who obey so strong to their officials like the fins. No matter who is in Charge 🤣
Wouldn't call Finland naive about the rest of the world at least when it comes to Russia. While most of the Europe has been "asleep", Finland has been continuously preparing against potential Russian hostilities for the past 75 years.
Finns certainly have that "depressive realism" thing going on that's often the case with the people's from around the Urals. Probably one of the few ways Finns can relate to Russians by. That "Oh well, it is what it is" -kind of attitude.
@@MidWitPride Honestly, we really don't have much do to do with Urals. I would much rather point these similarities to shared ancestry in northeastern and eastern Europe, which would of course encompass Russians.
With such a negative attitude made , looking only for something stupid to tell, with so many mistakes and lies, this was a sad video.Actually, most of small and big supermarkets are open every day, also sundays. Fortunately, most people are intelligent and do find the truth themselves.
That comment felt like a joke to me. We do pride ourselves to be Northern or Western, but we do have Eastern influences if not from denying it. Even the coats of arms shows this
Mannerheim got kicked out of the Finnish army in his youth for drinking too much, so he joined the Russian army. Whilst serving the Tsar on an expedition to China and Tibet, he taught the then Dalai Lama to pistol shoot.
A bit more complicated than that. He was kicked out of the Cadet school in Hamina, so the only possibility to complete an officer's training was to get to a military school in Russia.
@@EdMcF1He was born in one of the spookiest baroque manor houses in Finland, which is an excellent museum now. The place was bought using the money donated for his equestrian statue; the donations were so huge they could not possibly be spent on a statue. His father went bankrupt and fled to Paris with his mistress. The family was one of extremes, Mannerheim himself was a Dinosaur from another epoch.
@@danieldelaney1377Most of the finns who are swedish speaking are basically almost 100% finnish. Those who are not are still mostly finnish. Are the jihadists in your hometown english because they speak english?
On holiday in Spain I made a made a comment about the weather, (the way I'd do to a British person as a matter of course) to a Finnish woman who was at least 20 years older than me. She took this innocent comment as a pass. I don't know who was more mortified, me or her. My guess is that Finns aren't used to speaking to strangers.
Lumping all Fennoswedes as 'Swedes' is ignorant. Swedish speaking does not mean that you are not a Finn to begin with but in many cases Finnish speaking Finns have adopted Swedish language so if you're trying to figure out if someone is a human or a Finn then language is not sufficient.
He does address this in and seems to use it to emphesize that Fennoswedes are not really the same as Finns, which I at least agree with. It is incorrect in the sense that Swedes would not agree that they are Swedish either but something unique. Something in between what the Afrikaans are to Dutch and the Baltic Germans were to the Germans.
Finland was not an Axis country, and there was nothing to "get away with.' It was fighting against an enemy that wanted to destroy it and the West refused to help, and Germany did help
Well don't take this as an endorsement of Russian colonialism but Finland had been a Russian subject for 100 years and wasn't destroyed, and in fact was far more independent than it had been under Sweden. There's no indication that Soviet leadership had any intent beyond taking land, whereas the Germans openly intended to wipe out the "asiatic" non-aryan races, which certainly includes the Sami if not the Finns as well.
Well it’s his own views and musings as a foreigner to Finland. He’s not going to make correct deductions/observations about social customs and beliefs.
@@kpg1973 By copying someone else's work, I imagine. He does seem exactly the sort of pseudo-intellectual, dimwitted bigot that the Scrotus Eaters and their unwashed fanbase like to fawn over.
A finn here, and I thought it was quite amusing. I just felt bad that you didn't get some finn to take you under their wing, and show you all the finnish things people like here to do, such as sauna, fishing, hunting, hiking, and doing mythical things deep in the forest where no mortal dare enter nor can the leave. Ps. I hate the cold nature and cold people, but it's a stockholm syndrome at this point, so its hard to leave this place. Its safe and you can trust what the people say. Cheers.
I love the Finns! I was blessed to meet my Hanu and Liza. Was invited to the wedding. What y’all call white nights. It was mid July. We smuggled liquor across the border because of the cost in Finland. I’m talking 20 gallons + of vodka and whiskey. I made so many lifelong friends at that wedding. (It’s been 20 years) we got shit hammered for 3 days. 😂 proper and respectfully full livers. Also what amazed me was the level of conversation. Not personal but deep philosophic conversation. It was great. Like “how do you think?” I was judged more about my thoughts and beliefs than my personality. Breathtaking. It was kinda like I need to know how you think before I open up to you. I really respect that and you don’t get that most places. I couldn’t do that hard cracked dark bread. Sucks the moisture right out. And no body shame. I love Finland. The people, the culture, the land. Anyone born there is blessed.
Irish are not English because the speak English. The same holds to Swedish speaking finns. Most of those 19th century elite guys who spoke swedish and shifted to Finnish, had mixed ancestry, Lönrot, who wrote Kalevala, mostly Finnish. Few proper Swedes became Finnish nationalists. Why is this so difficult to understand to foreigners?
@@TommyMiikhail No, they are never called "swedes". To call a "Finland's swede" (suomenruotsaleinen) a "swede", is kind of offensive, at least in southern F, and certainly something that will be corrected. There is no significant genetic difference between Finnish and Swedish speakers of the same regions, the difference between eastern/northern and western Finnish speakers is genetically much bigger. Jolly heretic is a habitual bullshitter and speaking like expert on subject he knows nothing about. That idiot knows absolutely nothing about Finnish history, but lectures about it like a professor. For instance, he does not even know that in 19th century most finns had Swedish names, and he thinks finns outbred swedes in Oulu, when they just changed names.. That he's married to a Lutheran priest tells all you need to know this pervert.
@@TommyMiikhail No they are not they are called Finnish-Swedes at most. Never just Swedes. And if a Swede moves to Finland he isn't called a Finnish-Swede he is still a Swede.
Most countries do not have this situation. An "Asian American" is simply that, an Asian in America, same goes for any other hypenated American. It does not mean that that particular American speaks Japanese despite being of white ancestry. Same goes for a Somali-Swede or an Afghani-Swede, if such a term even exists. They aren't simply ethnic Swedes who speak Pashto, they are of a different ethnic origin. The Swedish-speaking Finn situation is less common.
> Son of Swedish Nobles > Fight for Russian Empire > Fight for newly established Finnish state > Become national hero > Go into the middle of nowhere to start a business > Fight again in WW2 against both USSR and (GERMANY) > Go back to your business > Still loves Tsar Nicholas II Least confusing part of anything Finnish related
As it was often the case, the Swedish elite didn't disappear under the Tzar, they just swore loyalty to the new leader, but kept the values and ideas of aristocrats. They didn't necessarily care about having a nation state as much as they cared about figthing communism.
Your pal seems like a very dislikeable fellow with the attitude of a sneering and arrogant imperialist, so no wonder he doesn't enjoy himself here. We probably don't enjoy him either. Glad you liked the food though.
@@jarnovilen5259 The only ones coping here are Finns lmao. Maybe do some reflecting before commenting. You are the most bitter people I've ever met. You never take accountability for anything and always deny everything.
Brit here , lived in Finland for over 2 yrs before moving back to good ol' blighty :( the finns arent the happiest people in the world but they are the most content and know where true happiness comes from- great work/life balance,nature,peace of mind and family.
A Finn here. I think in the Finnish version of the happiness survey is actually using the word content instead of happy. Tyytyväinen = content, satisfied Onnellinen = happy, joy
@浅野旅団 Because Finland used to be part of Sweden and Swedish remained as the primary language of administration and education until 1920's. There was a fight to change that, which was mostly done by Swedish-speaking Finns for nationalistic reasons, it never had anything to with whose a Swede as there were no Swedes around.
The Finns were forced to clear mines also in Soviet waters. About 20000 mines were laid by the Soviets, which were the problematic ones, as the location of these was not known.
Considering how many people also died in order to clear all the mines as part of the peace treaty, i'd say a little brass sign is least bit of respect that could be shown to them.
That swastika explanation was completely out of the woods. The swastika was the emblem of the Finnish Air Force before World War II. That is, in use before the nazis took it over. Finns still don't associate the swastika only with the nazis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force
We also had our own "swastikas" long before that (tursaansydän) but the video is meant to be 50% comedic I'm sure rather than a factual documentary. Lots of the stories told in the video are quite made up.
Katsoitko edes saman videon? Tais mennä täysin ohi kohta missä selitettiin ihan oikein tuon symbolin alkuperä mutta oli pakko tulla vinkumaan kommentteihin :D
Saying that Finnish cultural persons etc are Swedish is same that claiming all Irish people British for they have been under Britsh crown and talked same language. No - they were Finns.
How can they Finnish Sweds can be Finns if they even look different? 😂 I knew some swedish girls from Finland and trust me they looked a little bit more...ehm...how to say that... different 😂 in a good way 😂 And obviously when your surname is Karlson and not Karlsonien you aren't Finn.
Kalevala was not collected by a "Swedish" guy. Elias Lönnroth was a Finnish speaking Finn, despite of his name, which was not uncommon at the time. Also the man who composed the national anthem was not Swedish but German, who had emigrated into Finland.
Similarly Mannerheim wasn't Swedish. His family had migrated to Sweden from Germany a few hundred years earlier but it was already his great-grandfather who had moved to Finland from Sweden. His grandfather was the governor of the Viipuri province in the Grand Duchy of Finland under Russia. I think the big mistake being done here is assuming the people with Swedish names or speaking Swedish were Swedish. It was common for people higher up in the society to use Swedish and adopt Swedish or Swedish-sounding names. It aided them due to Finland's history of being ruled by Sweden and Swedish having been the language of the ruling class. Many families also had some origins in Sweden but had since moved to Finland and become Finnish, yet they retained the Swedish names and even language. Finally, Christianity had been introduced to Finland through the Swedes. When the Finns started adopting Christian names, many would initially adopt the Swedish form. If he was trolling to get under the Finns' skins, well played.
@@bennyklabarpan7002 karelians are a different people from finns? arent they all uralic? p.s. i dont like these two fucking limey cucks...they dont know what theyre talking about...they do a dis-service to the finns imo
Finland's suicide rate is lower than the USA, yet I've never heard anyone descripe the US as ridden with suicide, like they do with Finland and other Nordic countries.
Suicide is not accurately counted in America. Murders are often counted as such, as in people on Clinton suspected kill list for example, and people overdose and do dangerous things hoping for chance of dying are counted as accidents. Suicide in death has to do with motive and motive cannot always be proven. Personality disorders such as borderline and anti-social use threats of suicide to try to manipulate and control others and sometimes are known to accidently die in suicide because person they expected to find them over dosed and save them worked late that night. They plan to be found and saved and scare somebody into capitulating to their demands. They have not been listed as suicide but accidental, self-inflicted accident when they have that cluster B personality diagnosis and medical history of admitting wanting to self-harm for attention. When they say suicide treats are a call for help, it is a call for attention and person wants you to stop everything and turn your world upside down to give them anything they want. It is holding themselves ransom instead of taking somebody else as ransom, but you are the person truly held ransom. So, toxic manipulators turn off would be helpers who burn out eventually and stop trusting people and manipulation receive countless aid where real people struggling are silent and often neglected. Toxic manipulators also turn some people depressed and suicidal because those toxic people use and discard people as they see people only as tools for themselves. To get back at people not helping them personality disorders will call up jobs of people they are angry at and try to get them fired and try to slander people and destroy lives. Makes a new depressed and real suicidal person at times depending upon victims own resilience. Therefore, if we were real in trying to address suicide rates, we would remove indefinitely criminals and documented malicious cluster B personality disorders as they make everybody else's lives unnecessarily worst. We do not need them for progress or self-growth (saying good cannot exist without evil) because enough adversity already exists naturally. Any place with criminals and toxic personalities running around will have a high suicide rate. Cities are not called riddled with suicide because cause of death is what they are called riddled with, unusually as deaths from firearms or overdoses on drugs. Places with homeless people looking like zombies, like San Franscico and Philadelphia are Americans who can be said to be suicidal but not quite finished. Those are called cities of high drug abuse instead. Leading cause of death with firearms is suicide, but firearms is called leading cause of death, not suicide. 6 out of every 10 gun death is a suicide. In 2022 gun suicide rate among black teens surpassed gun suicide by white teens. Firearms are a tool and not the motive, yet firearms are blamed. Then we can continue to refuse to address the causes by blaming the tools. And that is how America hides its ugly problems.
Even some Finns think that Finland's suicide rate is particularly high. In reality, Finland's suicide rate is currently at the European average. Suicides have decreased in Finland since 1990. However, the suicides of young people are worrisome.
I think its more normal for countries where there is no poverty to be more suicidal. Having what you need but still depressed is a bigger reason to end your life than to have nothing and everyday is a fight for survival. Then you would strive for survival.
Finland (and to a lesser degree Sweden and Denmark) has become the default option of "problem deflection" for most Europeans. Whenever you start criticising a country for the problems of organisation and discipline they always deflect it as "we are passionate" or whatever else word they like using and they bring these countries to further feed the misunderstanding by telling you how "those robot like soulless countries end up being so depressed and alcoholics", being stuck back to the numbers of the 90s, because of course they only can recall the numbers of their favourite news shows from their times and looking up on statistics is too advanced. Honestly France is worse in every category. Germany is following closely. Finland and Denmark are actually doing very well and at this point in terms of numbers they are getting closer and closer to southern Europe. Sweden is a different case because of their crisis. Norway is all over the place but honestly still doing good in terms of improvement. Btw I grew up in a French speaking household and I've travelled in Germany more than any other country, I don't have any issue with them, but also growing up in southern Europe those are seen as the "passable" and the Nordics as the "too soulless" Also I want to emphasise one thing, Scandinavia and Finland are not perfect and they will never be, but they are the only countries in Europe that strive for constant improvement and that shows. As a Greek that is *EVERYTHING* I could ask for, fuck sun and fuck social life, trust in a society is far more important and comforting.
@@georgemulford2910 Alcoholism, culture that emphasizes not complaining and handling your own shit, dark winters and lack of proper care. There is so much less stigma about mental health problems, care is not that much better but they do take it more seriously. Gen X already was much better at talking about their problems more openly and consider it normal to have problems. The newer generations are even better at that. Boomers and the Great Generation were taught to shut up and deal with it, to suffer quietly and to be ashamed of having mental issues, depression, anxiety etc. If anyone had known that you go to therapy you would've been social pariah... Which lead to widespread alcoholism as people tried to self medicate.
there is an old irish saying - If two neighbors are fighting, it means that an englishman visited one of them yesterday. and now those brits are in Finland
Finns just want to be left alone and do as we please. Whether it is on the individual or international level. However, the rest of the world doesn't seem to comply, so we have been forced to intermingle and much ill and woe has befell because of it.
resmarted@@resmartedTypical middle-class Brit who failed to achieve any form of status in his own country and is now whoring abroad where he might get visibility just by being a foreigner.
This is a great demonstration of why we Finns are so happy. This really is the worst you can find in Finland! First you hired a cynical ignorant immigrant as your guide. Then you made sure to sleep long enough to miss all the fun every single day on your trip. And even chose to sleep in an old asylum. (Which is actually very classy!) The only persons you (said to have) interviewed were not even Finns. Well, not by your own definiton at least - if they speak Swedish they are not Finns, right? You really tried, and still I can only see beauty and happiness in the subject material. And we seem to agree on the most important point: we Finns don't care how videos like this see us! :)
This comment sections has like 20+ finns who “don’t care”, including yourself, being somewhat disappointed or even feeling bad over a guy reading wiki and filming his actual experience without any bad words or intentions towards Finland and it’s people. Never met a Finn in my life, so I am curious, are Finns such an egocentric whiners as this comments section shows, or this video was just posted on some Finnish right-wing resource?
@@浅野旅団 "Never met a Finn in my life, so I am curious, are Finns such an egocentric whiners as this comments section shows" Not really, it's just that RUclips comment sections bring out the worst in and worst of people.
This might be a somewhat unfinnish attitude but I think the inaccuracies and stereotyping etc. were a deliberate choice and added to the humour. The perspective is that of an Anglo explorer in a strange land. Of course the culture seems confusing to them. Sure, it's a missed opportunity to provide relevant insight. Though I don't think even an average Finn could be sufficiently pedantic with the facts for a Finnish audience. Luckily the comments are always full of helpful people with corrections.
@@juho9703 What is it with this term 'Anglo?' I'm from England and I find that (younger) Finns relate to American culture and society more than I do. "Anglo" is not a real thing. I don't even particularly like other English-speaking countries.
One correction, liquorice and salmiakki are not the same thing. Liquorice is made of mainly liquorice root but salmiakki is when ammonium chloride is added, so they do not taste the same. And Finnish people do not consider them the same thing
True, but they are kind of similar, but salmiakki is salty while liquorice is not. I hate them both and here it isn't easy to find bags of candy without some black ones in it, be it salmiakki or liquorice.
I grew up in Minnesota and I've read some interesting history about Finns coming to America (I have some Finnish ancestry). Evidently when the Finns started immigrating to the area to work the iron mines they ended up having to organize protests to be considered "White enough" to receive comparable wages to their counterparts who immigrated from more western regions of Europe. Some have said that the Swedish immigrants in the area disparaged them and claimed they were Asian in an attempt to discourage Finns from coming to the area lol.
Lol, terrible food cultures stick together :D I'm a Finn and fucking love the Nordics and it being so easy to live a good life here. A safe high trust social democracy rules. But Nordic food is overall pretty bad. I like some weird Finnish stuff but mostly just eat food that originates from other places.
This guy is too stupid to even realize that. Edward Dutton is his name. He is also a plagiarist, and was fired from a Finnish university, everyone can google that out.
Britain declared war on Finland during WW2 but mostly to please their ally the Soviet Union. Churchill recognized Finland's problem and was actually sympathetic to the Finns plight. Hence Britain did not get into military fighting with Finland and to this day maintains good relations with Finland, signing military assistance pledges even before Finland joined NATO.
if my memory servers me right, it is the only time two democratic countries have been in war. At least on paper. ( But then again UK is an old empire with kings and such.) Tho they did come here during the Napoleonic wars when Finland was part of Russian empire. There is still a British war ship maintained in Kokkola that was capture from the Royal Navy, probably only one in the world. They still pay us for keeping that thing in public display.
Just because for example Elias Lönnrot spoke swedish doesnt make him swedish😅 He was born in Finland and Finland indeed has two languages. Finnish and Swedish.
I don't know if socializing is exhausting for us finns but it's more like why bother or why to get to know some random neighbor. If someone comes to me and start a conversation i will talk with him/her but i don't want to make a friend out of that person necessarily so making friends in Finland is hard but when you get a friend you get a loyal friend.
I'd love to talk with random people here in Finland, but it always feels like I'd just be a bother if I just started randomly talking 😂. If everyone is drunk, it's pretty easy & natural to talk with randoms though.
Being a direct descendant of the Lapuan Liike founder I feel like this is a great opportunity to elaborate on some of that. The reds lost the civil war mostly due to poor training and organization. The whites had a bunch of people trained in Germany. Then they managed to seize a lot of Russian equipment when things started to heat up, this wasn't too hard since the russians didn't really know what to do with their own command chain being as fucked as it was. During the 1920s the government made a bunch of concession to the socialist side to repair the rift caused by the civil war. Meanwhile in soviet Russia the commies were doing their thing and a lot of people got killed. This of course made people very suspicious when the communists in Finland kept up with their demands of more socialism. So it was decided that the safest move was to just rid the country of communists so they can't try another coup or act as partisans when the russians invade. All of that ended surprisingly peacefully with first most of communist activity being shut down and them being denied all kinds of democratic rights we take for granted nowadays. Ironically those same laws the the Lapuans got into effect were later applied to ban the Lapua movement after the most extreme members did a drunken "we're totally gonna coup you up" declaration and then got even more drunk and managed to achieve absolutely nothing. Most members then moved onto a slightly more democratically oriented party (the original movement wasn't even an actual party) and even got some people into the parliament. They got shut down by the soviets however after ww2 along all the other meddling they did to influence finnish politics.
During the attempted drunken coup my grandfather took the task of driving the car as the leaders were too drunk. The police searching for Kosola in the local bars and restaurants could not find him as he was staying overnight at our house. My grandfather was later in a police hearing but was not found guilty of anything illegal. Was later member of parliament.
funniest thing is the longest running president of the american communist party Gus Hall, was a finnish american who was also Vihtoris 3rd cousin. Definetly interesting political history in your family.
You're very wrong about calling every second person Swedish. Those people are Swedish-speaking Finns, didn't consider themselves Swedes. Language (which in the case of Finnish Swedish is quite different from proper Swedish anyway) doesn't go hand in hand with national identity all the time. The difference between them and Swedes is so large that actual Swedes ask them to speak English when they hear them.
I have met and spoken to Swedish speaking Finns and I definitely did not have to ask them to speak English. I do agree with the rest of what you are saying though, they should be refereed to as Swedish speaking Finns.
Being Swedish, I can confirm that we absolutely understand the Swedish-speaking Finns without issue. Maybe immigrants in Sweden have trouble understanding them, but it would be the same kind of people that have trouble understanding the southern Swedish dialect skånska. If Swedish is your first language, you will understand it.
It's more like some customer service worker in Stockholm might answer in English to a Swedish-speaking Finn out of politiness, as they first think he's speaking bad Swedish.
@@skurt9109 They are not. For example, Lönnrot had Finnic N1c paternal line, not Scandinavian I1. The same also goes for Sibelius and the Jansson family at least.
Finnish language originating from Ural mountains doesn't equal most Finnish people originating from there. Finland has been inhabited since the end of the last ice age, much before uralic languages arrived. People then spoke ancient now-extinct languages unrelated to modern languages. We have a hint of those languages in some place names, such as Saimaa, Päijänne and Inari, which are names of some of the biggest lakes in Finland.
The common ancestor of Baltic-Finnic peoples (Finns, Estonians, Karelians etc. many more) originates from the Volga river region in Russia. The common ancestor of all Sami peoples also comes from there, but they populated Fennoscandia and Western Russia earlier than Baltic-Finnics did. The Uralic language group as a whole, which contains the latter groups both, and more groups with their origins in central Siberia, likely does originate from Siberia truly. So, one could say, yes, the earliest roots of Finnish language are quite possibly in Siberia, but we're talking about a time before even the divergence of Pan-Baltic-Finnic ancestors. Uralic peoples/cultures do share genetic ingredients in common. We all have some North Asian ancestry. The most eastern Uralic people like Nganasan or Selkup look more North Asian than they look "European", and many other Uralic groups really look like a sliding scale from North Asian to European ("white" or whatever) looking. Finnish people are a mix of that North Asian but also local European ingredient. Some Finns have a more 'Eastern' genome while others have a more 'Germanized' one, especially in the west coast of the country where Swedes settled heavily during their crusades into Finland. Good amount of ethnic Finns also probably descend from culturally assimilated Sami peoples as well, with no modern connection to Sami culture or identity. So. Finns have many origins as people. Both Finns and Sami have probably mixed with the "paleo-european" now-extinct culture that lived here before either group. Said culture was most likely Indo-European linquistically, and Sami languages have loanwords from their extinct language. I think these ancient Indo-European groups of northern Europe might be whom the North Asian Uralic ancestors mixed with, creating those Uralic groups that look like a mixture of European and North Asian.
Most of us finns still have n-haplo group genes wich are asian and uralian. Of course we have mixture also like all people on earth. But its stupid or ignorance that many finns think they are indoeuropeans and even western. The western colonialisimg in the past and modern western politics have brainwashed most of modern finns. Our fathers were not western nor liberal. We are finno-ugrics.
@@gabrielgabriel5177 You are stupid, you are more indoeuropean (swedish) than uralic. Why dont you have monolid eyes? It is becouse you got fucked to bad you turned swedish.
@@knarme5160 Germanic ancestry in Finns is much older than Swedish colonization of Finland, unless those Swedes then gave Swedish women to Finnish men. Most likely scenario for that admixture is that prior to early Finnic people expanding from the Baltic to Finland, Finland was settled by Germanic-like people who were then assimilated by the coming Finnic people. This also makes sense in paternal haplogroups, as only 5% of the I1 lines in Finland are clearly Swedish in origin.
I liked the video, even though i'm a finn 😅 As seen from these comments, we are fairly proud people, but maybe some of us have a sense of humor also 😊 On another point: there was ALOT of russian tourism in finland in the 2000's, but the turn started in 2014, when first eu sanctions hit. After that many malls etc in eastern finland suffered, especially near the border. Tax free tourists dissapeared. So the border cafe you went to might have been closed for much longer.
Ive always wondered about the "true finn" translation, how they even came up with that one - sounds super far right and ethnic when compared to the actual finnish reading of boring "average finn".
@@iivarilappalainen9836 I suppose calling your party "Basic" or "Normal" just sounds quite boring, which might not be very good in electoral politics. The word "perus" could also be translated as "foundational", especially in some context. So I guess "perus" is just a trick word to translate in a way where you're using the closest English language match, while not sounding overly bland.
@@Z1tu0 the english name has very little meaning to the elections in finland though. Could be they just flipped coin or went with what sounds coolest. Now that i think about it again, they could be actually rebranding to "finns party" in english. Think they had some material with that name recently.
So many factual mistakes right from the get go, like considering Elias Lönnrot a swede, that I couldn't watch further. So let me just state for the record as a Finn, no we don't particurlarly like to be considered as being human.
"This is just a big bunch of cherry-picked out of context facts and semi-truths" might sound cliche, especially in this day and age, but as a Finn I can say that in this case it's quite true. This is a beautiful example of taking and highlighting individual facts, isolating them from the larger context, and peppering them with half truths and outright made up stuff in order to create a very misleading picture. Although I get a bit the impression this was done a bit tongue-in-cheek, but it's hard to tell. If it's humor, it's a bit too subtle.
A few months ago my family and i visited Helsinki and i saw happy, relaxed and smiling Finns enjoying their lives. They were very helpful and kind. I am jealous of their society and way of life. I don't usually comment on videos i dislike but in this one i felt that I had to.
I think the question should be are finns native europeans, unlike most europeans who arent native to europe but migrated to europe en mass. Then answer would be kind of, given the very small percentage of hunter gatherer dna left in finnish genome. But not really, as all native europeans/native european genome were basically wiped out by one way or another by the neolithic farmers who took over europe. Likely mostly by breeding the hunter gatherers out over time. Replacing the small native populations of europe. But if one asks are modern finns just general europeans, then the answer is more or less yes. As most "europeans" genome is similar enough to categorize them into one larger more generic group compared to other people/groups. In case of many european countries, they are the same exact people but just living in different countries with different languages and customs. Because reasons i guess. This is why one cant say ones genetic heritage based on language. I mean im finnish, not english, even though i speak and write english. And i am not swedish even though i speak and write swedish. To a british person that might seem weird given how some people speak and write many languages but british only one. Thus language spoken and/or written is a very defining characteristic to a british or such while its not to many others.
Well, depends what is a high rate. It is higher than in India, Austria, Canada, Kenya or Sweden for example. Even Japan has lower suicide rate than Finland.
@@SavolaxMitsu Pohjanmaalla asuvat suomenruotsalaiset eivät geneettisesti juuri eroa Pohjanmaan suomenkielisistä jollei ruotsalaisia oteta vertailuun mukaan. Etelärannikon hurreista ei valitettavasti olla tehty vastaavaa tutkimusta.
@@FrazzP Niin ja kun Ruotsalaiset otetaan mukaan vertailuun, niin ovatko sitten Pohjanmaan rantahurrit geneettisesti lähempänä sveduja vaiko Pohjanmaan suomalaisia?
@@SavolaxMitsu Muistaakseni jakoivat noin 70% geeneistään suomenkielisten kanssa. Itäsuomalaiset ja länsisuomalaiset taas eroavat geneettisesti yhtä paljon kuin Saksalaiset ja Englantilaiset, pitääkö niitäkin ruveta eri etnisyyksiin jakamaan? Englanninkielisten ei pitäisi tehdä turistivideoita Suomesta kun eivät saa edes perusfaktoja oikein. Tää jätkä on muuten sympaattinen ryssille niin sisältö on sen mukasta.
I love how watchers of this channel have now grown entirely used to having North Korean music used as a score, no matter what the subject country might actually be.
A lot of Finns have Swedish last names, but most of these actually do not speak Swedish, they just have a male ancestor with a Swedish last name. Most of these names were given by Swedish priests, who couldn't spell Finnish names, so they replaced the unintelligible name with a Swedish one that sounded remotely similar.
@@jonnenne Wrong. People had last names well before the 20th century, they just weren't always hereditary. I'm Swedish, my last name Andersson is a patronym of one of my ancestors who lived in the 1800s.
This video is littered with a whole bunch of absolutely wild inaccuracies but my favorite bit's gotta be 41:28 and the word "fetish store" when the store in question is just your average Underground, a chain piercing studio/clothing store for alternative folks lmao.
this was actually much much better than most travel youtuber stuff. Great mix of not making it about yourself, but the country. There's great chemistry with the Dutton guy, like two different perspectives. Really really good stuff.
Calling Elias Lönnrot Swedish is almost as bad as calling Merlin French. Elias Lönnrot (1802-1884) was a Finnish physician, philologist, and folklorist best known for compiling and editing the “Kalevala,” the Finnish national epic. He gathered folk poems, songs, and stories from the oral traditions of Finnish and Karelian culture, combining them into a cohesive narrative that has had a significant influence on Finnish national identity and literature. Lönnrot’s work helped preserve these traditions and played a crucial role in promoting Finnish language and culture during a time when Finland was under Russian rule. His efforts also contributed to the development of Finnish as a literary language. Greetings from Finland! Love your show mate!!
@@TheJollyHeretic Yes, Elias Lönnrot was Finnish. He was born on April 9, 1802, in Sammatti about 5 miles where I was born, which was then part of the Swedish Empire (now Finland). Lönnrot is best known for compiling the “Kalevala,” the Finnish national epic, which played a significant role in the development of Finnish cultural identity and the rise of Finnish nationalism in the 19th century. He was also a linguist, physician, and an important figure in the promotion of the Finnish language and culture. Like myself, I was taught Swedish in school because Finland is a bilingual country. He spoke both languages coz you can’t write Finnish national saga in Finnish if you don’t speak the language.
@@TheJollyHeretic Unfortunately I'm not educated on the subject, or in fact I'm not educated at all. Would you be able to recommend some high class, respected university to study Finnish and Swedish history? I've heard about this "Asbiro University" where you could supposedly receive titles like "Professor of Evolutionary Psychology of Business", despite the fact the whole institution doesn't meet the standards to be considered a real university. Apparently it's an easy way for an entrepreneur to receive a fancy sounding title. Pretty neat, huh?
@@hevosenpaska114 What was his native language? It was Swedish. Though there seems to be a myth that it was Finnish. Elias Lönnrot, National Writer by Pertti Karkama says his native language was Swedish and I'll believe him over you.
@@TheJollyHeretic his native language matters why? Even if it was Swedish, how does that make him not Finnish ethnically, culturally and geographically? By your logic Ireland is just a country filled with Englishmen and the United States and Canada are still full of English people. This is obviously not sensible.
The Finnish relationship with the swastika is as ancient as the land itself. The design may have changed when that one swedish baron or whatever he was brought to finland from somewhere in 1917-18 but the ancient swastikas are also widely in use all over the place
@@Telefon-nu3ch yeah, it is different and is the least used. The older ones are much more prevalent and are even more different. In meaning and in design.
Finns are just as European as any other European people but Finns haven't mixed so much with other population groups. Majority of European populations are mixes of more than one different population groups when Finns are comprised mainly of one. Before someone goes "but what about muh Asian genes" there' are no Asian genes. There's a haplo group that we share with some Asian populations but that haplo group came to Europe before there were Asians or Europeans. The idea that Finns are Asians originates from Axel Olof Freudenthal who was very much a Swedish supremacist and anti-Finnish person.
Felt a bit offended by the assumption of a Swedish name = Swede. It's not like the finns weren't subhumans in their own country with a Swedish name as a mandatory to be middle class.
This guy doesn't know anything. Many Swede-Finns actually changed their names to Finnish names during 1800's, talking about hundred thousand. Edward Dutton is also a known Finn hater, he even got fired from a Finnish university for plagiarism.
@@Petjuspelailee You were not lol. Had the exact same rights as any Swede. Sure you needed to learn Swedish to have any higher, noteworthy education, but that's more due to the aristocracy and not so much to do with Finnish people being considered "subhuman".
It’s always tough as an ex British person to see these takes on Finland after having lived here for many years. They rarely ever represent what life is like.
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Thanks for coming to our beautiful and very expensive country Callum. It used to be nicer, not as much these days thanks to immigration. That pizza looked horrendous 😅 I liked this video, you did a fair assessment of our country.
@@Britannica1 visit Noristan province of Afghanistan please
Small correction; when you said that it was only Finnish sea mines, there were also plenty dropped by soviets and Germans.
come to norway, it is similar
Not eastern part but west and north part of norway😁
How ironic - the nation who built 60% of all ice-breakers hates small talk.
How has this not been pinned it's glorious and I hate you for it
A proper icebreaker pushes you past the small talk and straight to the point.
Very on brand, actually.
Brilliant work there, mate.
@@thearpox7873 Das rite! A proper ice breaker, breaks ice as little as possible to get the job done! This is so they could minimize time and energy waste on such meaningless task.
how about atomic ice brakers?
Calling Swedish speaking Finns Swedes is incredibly triggering to all Finns, I guess it's how Irish people feel when someone calls an Irish person british.
Cry harder
Which is easier to learn? Swedish or finnish?
@@jibblecain Swedish definitely
If you came from Sweden and kept your language.... Well...
It doesn't trigger me at all.
That Ed guy sure seemed to like his own imaginary view of finland.
Shame you didnt get an actual finn to travel with you instead of a guy who hasnt been able to integrate in 19 years.
I think he moved there mainly because he married a Finnish woman. Also, England sucks, but Finland seems to be doing it's best to bug chase after the same societal contagions that ruined his home country.
Maybe just cry about it.
@@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc or you know, dont post a shit video full of wrong and completely made up info
For real, the whole video is absolutely littered with wild inaccuracies.
We got an arrogant immigrant's view of Finland. Great...
My Finn story. I was dating a Finnish girl here in Canada. I used to sauna with her whole family...naked. It was normal and accepted. Eventually we broke up and I met my wife. My Wife's family (not Finnish) had a massive reunion. We were at a resort and our chalet had a big sauna. My father-in-law suggested we all sauna. Aunts, Uncles, all the in-laws headed down to enjoy the heat. I walk into the sauna, totally nude, to find my new family clad in bathing suits.... Finnish culture, you gotta love it!
😂
Swimwear in the sauna is a cardinal sin, even in Sweden!
To be fair wearing a bathing suit can affect some of the benefits of the sauna. I would say wear a towel if you don't want to go nude.
I'm confused, you're not Finnish though so why would you do that?
Your ex gfs family turned you into a flagrant exhibitionist.🤣
This english immigrant seem to know many old "finnish customs" we have no idea of
That's pretty common because anywhere you go you get the 'tourist explanation' of a place that incorporates the old traditions and customs, rather than how how things are typically quite mundane for the locals and that is true almost anywhere you go.
And outside perspective is a wonderful thing no?
@@simonnachreiner8380 not really if you want a truthful one.
Xenophobia much?
54:30 So same story globally then
Do you know what other languages translate "railways" as "iron road"?
Welsh, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian, German, -Dutch- , Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Icelandic, Polish, Hungarian, Russian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese. Just to name a few.
Sometimes the linguistic ignorance of the "lotuseaters" is too annoying.
He seemed to assume that every other nation's word for train is a translation of the English word for train.
@@LarsPallesen It's slightly worse, he described it as a weakness of the language or culture (if I recall correctly), when almost every language does this. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Even the English word "carriage" used to mean "horse-drawn carriages" in the 19th century.
Also "railway" - rail is the name of the pair of steel tracks, way is a synonym for road.
So basically, even English does the same.
Anglophone moment
he hasn't been in lotus eaters for quite some time dude.
Wow go cry about it sperg lord lmao
I once saw a great headline about Finland being rated the happiest country on earth. The headline was, "Finland is the happiest country in the world, and the Finns aren't happy about it."
They mostly are. There are exceptions of course.
yes because it is a lie finland is doing really bad now thanks to our lying government. Almost every day someone is getting stabbed. This is the end.
liquorice drink? Spore. They would chew it, bung it in a bottle and let it ferment. Spore. Ahahah.....
In Finland, there are no happy people anywhere, just brainwashed slaves who settle for their slave wages and the brainwashing that mainstream media reports. And I'm Finnish, I've lived here all my life.
Finns have bad Stockholm syndrome and a strong belief in anything, as long as you don't have to think about anything yourself.
13:28 "Moomin is a Finnish cartoon series." Well yes, but more importantly it's a collection of great books illustrated by the author, also a Swedish-speaking Finn. There are a several animated films and series, but the classic one, done in an anime style, was of course a collaboration with Japanese animators.
I have been married to a Finnish woman for 11 years. I am Greek. We have been living in Finland for 5 years, and yes the Finns are a different culture, but they are what they are and they are authentic and honest. As a nation they have suffered many hardships. They are hardworking people. Although it is very difficult to make friends here, I love them for who they are.
I bet you had to calm down a lot.
Weird question but do you, by any chance, play the game Dark and Darker? I recently talked to a guy there that was Greek and married a Finnish woman
@@GUITARTIME2024 That's what i was thinking lol!
That game is great@@Isaax
I've been listening to Robert Garland's 38 Great Courses lectures, which convey an integrated Greco-Roman history. I find myself loving all things Greek as much as Nero! I'm laughing, but it's so true. I love Greece, and I love Finland; go have a wonderful day!
There's a giant potato farm just outside of Finland. It's called Estonia 🇪🇪
kek
@@jonbaxter2254Poo
This reminds me of that one time an Estonian got into a Twitter argument with an Indonesian.
I thought it was Åland...
@@jonbaxter2254 translating kek means cake
We "sided with Hitler" because no one else helped. All the allied countries gave mostly platitudes apart from some voluntary donations. We surprisingly wanted to stay independent so lesser evil it was.
implying he was evil speaks a lot about you than him
@@unter1103 I think ordering millions of people to be killed is bad and so do most finns. Siding with Hitler was an unfortunate neccesity for our nation's survival.
i wasn't a fan of how pro-soviet the war explanation was, with the video painting the continuation war as a rabid expanse rather than as a reclamation of some of the largest cities lost (viipuri and sortavala, for example, were both important culturally, not just militarily). the idea of a greater finland, even "just" the one of the whole of karelia and kola, was one only entertained by jingoist nationalists.
also, finland didn't transport any jews to germany, and forbade german soldiers from discriminating finnish jewish soldiers.
similar in that fashion to americans in britain trying to segregate black british people to no avail.
@@MERIPURSUThis is somewhat of a misconception, as while we didn't give up any Jews who were Finnish citizens, we did transfer some Jews who had taken refuge here from the pogroms etc. happening Nazi Germany. We did transfer some under a dozen Austrian jews (one of whom had volunteered to fight in the winter war) who came here originally as refugees from Germany, but that was more so because our idiot right wing police chief agreed to hand them over in what was (if I remember correctly) his own decision which hadn't been approved by the government or his superiors in the government. Nevertheless, approved or not it still happened and is a stain in our history, though some would argue siding with Germany no matter the circumstances at that time is as well.
Some 47 more jews were also extradited to the USSR in 1942 during a POW exchange with the Soviets, though their religious identity wasn't afaik the reason for their extradition. They might've been Soviet Jews or Jewish refugees from elsewhere in Europe.
@@unter1103 to us he was
Beware if you watch this video as it's just wildly inaccurate. I'm bit over 5 minutes in and decided to just give up. Looks like the dude did a single ChatGPT question worth of research and called it a day. He's just completely off the reservation for even for the simplest of things like nationalities of people, even when the first sentences in their Wikipedia page classify them as Finns (hint, speaking swedish or born in "Swedish Empire" might not mean what you think it does). And a quick glance at the comments doesn't give me any hope for anything better. So, I'd just head over to next video if I were you. Toodles!
Yeah, I agree. But what else would you expect from a channel which calls itself "Britannica" 😂?! - Too much internalised colonial thinking I guess.
oh no, one of the happiest people on Earth, is not happy :-(
Yeah and @ 34:00 ''A German tank with Swastikas''......jesus fking christ this man....
They are sweeds because they speak swedish and have swedish blood. Living in Finland does not change that.
@@danieldelaney1377 Lol. If your goal for today is to argue about facts on the internet then go argue with the Swedish speaking Finns who overwhelmingly identify theirselves as Finns. They clearly could learn a thing or two from you. Or any other hundreds of countries that have non-native speaking minorities. Best of luck to you on your journey!
As expected, when I showed my Finnish friend this, he had next to no reaction.
😂
For a Finn, that's quite an extreme reaction.
My finn friends died inside, then slowly turned away.
They are a few generations removed from the old country, however, so this is all based on built in genetic programming, not anything cultural...
I don't know man. We Finns usually swarm every youtube video that has the word "Finland" in the title.
@@cassu6"as a fin" 😂😂😂
If you want to experience the Finns in their natural habitat, go to a random rally and just yell "oioioioioi" whenever a car goes by. They will accept you as their own in an instant.
Or shout "HANAAAAA". That also works
I was first thinking of a political (or so) rally and was really really confused.
"a random rally" = satunnainen poliittinen kokoontuminen
Meaning, a rally car race
They are insanely good really drivers. Unique among all rallying nations, they dig vicious little ditches at the side of their roads just for the extra challenge.
I can confirm that Finns are infact sentient snow.
Koska jää on vettä ja ihmiset osa vettä! Brilliant.
Meil' on hanki ja jää... 🎶
That has been debunked, in the book "Yellow Snow" by I.P. Freely!
This is lies and government propaganda.
The Finns are a subset species from the local Poro.
Oh, I just thought of a naughty joke.
The swastika is an ancient symbol and motif used and spead across the world by the Indo-Europeans. I'm pretty tired of American/Jewish culture of being in a constant state of guilt.
It's actually present in all cultures, even pre-columbian Americans. It is a universal symbol for changing winds and times. But yes, we need to get over the pearl clutching when it appears.
@@Peaches-i2i well yeah absolutely because the Indo-Europeans were settled before the Celtics or the Anglo-Saxons
Why would you even want to dispute it being a nazi symbol when you yourself are a nazi?
Finns aren't Indo-European but you're right. As the commenter before me already pointed out, it appeared in pretty much all cultures from Native Americans to Europeans, Indians, East Asians and even in very early Judaism.
the indo-european explaination probably isnt the one for finland since finns are finno-ugric, specifically finnic
Helsinki: “A decadent hell hole”, Turku: ”The A**hole of Finland”, Åland: ”A weird place”’, Porvoo: ”Deserted”, Eastern border: “Ruins and swastikas”. I’m glad you were able to have a good look around and make lots of friends. 😂 At least you found Taleban run Afghanistan up to your standards, I’m very glad for both of you.
The asswhole of finland is a very common joke. Are you finnish, because this is a showcase of one national feature that we are very sensitive to critisism
@@thedudefromrobloxx asswhole? You mean the whole ass?
@@thedudefromrobloxx My good man, should you not begin such a comment with: ”As a Finn…”?
Karelia is just full of ruins and swastikas? ;d
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj Oh I’m sure as many as you have tattooed on your forehead
Finnish is low-key one of the best sounding languages on earth. Can see why Tolkien used it to create the sound of Elvish.
Finnish can be silky smooth honey to ear like: "aja hiljaa sillalla" or brutal like shooting machinegun and rubbing it with barbwire "älä rääkkää sitä räkäjätkää".
@@juhajuntunen7866 "älä rääkkää sitä räkäjätkää" still sounds pretty smooth compared to the average of many other languages. You - and I - are being biased by the meaning of the words.
@@arska-pelejavlogejajaautoj5030 Meh, every conversation with foreigners about which language is strongest can be ended with a single "PERKELE!".
Dated a Finnish girl for years, and listening to hear voice was the most amazing anti-depressant yet created. Finnish just sounds magical for some reason, it's really beautiful to hear.
He didn't, Elvish is based off of Celtic languages
Neither Runeberg nor Lönnrot were Swedish. Runeberg spoke Swedish as his first language but was from Finland. While Lönnrot did publish a number of works in Swedish, his first language was Finnish (he didn't learn Swedish until school)
Edit: forgot to mention they were ethnically Finnish
But they were still ethnicaly finnish. Your lies and decite is disgusting.
Not sure about Runeberg but we know paternal haplogroup of Lönnröt, and it's as Finnic as it gets.
@@molotovribbentrop2839 Runeberg was most definitely a Finlandswede, born in Jakobstad, but his ancestry was probably Swedish.
Fun note - Mannerheim never properly learned to speak Finnish.
@@sebastiansandvik825 Being a Finlandswede doesn't mean you have Swedish ancestry. It means you are a finn that speaks Swedish as your main language
@@robinlindholm1525 Sure, but historically Finlandswedes trace their ancestry to Swedes that moved to what is now Finland from the 12th century onwards.
And J. L. Runeberg's grandfather was born in Sweden.
The amount of negativity, misinformation and gross popularization in this video is truly baffling and really irritating. Made me sick.
😂😂 truth hurts derp
elä ota sanasta sanaan mun mielestä tää on iha hauska
Are you going to be ok?
54:30
@@studios.skO_Ga faustian idiot is running wild
He went there to try to find archeological relics from the Hyperwar.
so much history lost....
@@New525 Jackie Chan died that day...
Imagine a full imperial korean warship out in the woods just abandoned.
Please don't speak about our dark past. We are not the same people as we were during the hyper war.
@@Mal0Imperzia all of those ships were found long ago and recycled properly. There are no remnant of our violent past left in this world.
I'm an American. I parked behind a car today, they had 2 bumpster stickers. One was an "autistic pride: because you can't cure who you are" sticker and the other was simply a Finnish flag. I laughed.
Brilliant 😂😂😂🇫🇮
@@annatenhunen4887 What were the odds it'd be in the exact same day I see this video 🤣God has a sense of humor
We must be the paradise country for autists because instead of small talking and playing a role in public we just ignore each other. No need to do painful masking when people are already acting like you :D
I wonder if that could be a strength for getting skilled immigration. All autistic coders welcome
@@luisdawnfinder3188 As a Finn myself I’m 100% sure they made that on purpose 😂 A perfect example of our sense of humor 👌
That is so f**kn hilarious! 🤣
Im a fin and i found this video strange and untruthful. Summers in finland are really beautiful and all the places are full of people, but yes, in the end of summer / autumn, all these public places like moominland will go completely empy(Impressive how dull you could make it also look).
You go to every city and find those very few patriotic / nationalistic / USSR vibe things and present it as the true image, which it is very far from.
This video felt like a fever dream when i compare it to my finnish reality.
Agreed. Every two minutes he says something that just baffles me. Most of the stuff isn't straightforwardly inaccurate, but presented in a way that is strongly misleading. Even stuff like calling Runeberg et al "Swedish" is an odd choice - they were Finnish, they just spoke the Swedish language. I can't help but wonder whether these choices in presentation were made to make the video more interesting, catchy, or provocative.
@@Caroscribbles 👍 Sure is hella provocative 😁
Why are you surprised? He is a well known russofile. It's not like you were ever going to get a truthful view from him. This was a good view into how the Russians want everyone else to see Finland. Treat it as a dive into the mind of an English russofile rather than a travel vlog about Finland and it starts making a lot more sense with all the distortions and outright lies.
@@MTB53850 Im not surprised or not not surprised. I dont know him and this video just popped im my feed. I watched it and left a message because i dont want other people from around the world to think this video as truthful
@@lundamyrstrollet1 Fair point. I guess this video gained traction outside the usual suspects who would already know what to expect from Putin's useful idiots.
Fun fact, Mannerheim is the only World War 2 leader who doesn't have an English-language biography...... Because nobody can be bothered enough to learn Finnish for it
Lol
I smell a business oppu-
Nevermind, i just remembered what Finnish looks like. I'll stick to thankless eroge translation works
I found one by Jonathan Clements, it looks like a legit English-language biography?
I have a C.G. Mannerheim coin/medal thing.
No Brit would take the biography of Mannerheim seriously.. And it also would be too unbelievable to be another Monty Python sketch either 🥺
"It was closed"
The average finnish experience.
The busy Times of tourism are over. 10-20 years ago, on every corner somE Kind of activity or nature Center opened. But the cost to maintain em for 5-10 visitors per day made em unsustainable. And the self servicing places at least in the south were robbed by New inhabitants of finland, so they also are in a desolate state.
"No fun allowed" is the SOP of any government since the 1100's. Remember "huvilupa" or the official government fun regulation bureau fun permit which still sort of exists.
@@WednesdayFin86 are you serious? The change of how ppl spend their freetime is Not regulated by the gov. Its more the fact that young folks rather stay at home playing games or the other ones have the financial possibility to travel through the whole world instead of staying in finland.
And by the way you dont often meet folks who obey so strong to their officials like the fins. No matter who is in Charge 🤣
No Russian tourists. It's a different world outside Eastern Finland.
Wouldn't call Finland naive about the rest of the world at least when it comes to Russia. While most of the Europe has been "asleep", Finland has been continuously preparing against potential Russian hostilities for the past 75 years.
Finns certainly have that "depressive realism" thing going on that's often the case with the people's from around the Urals. Probably one of the few ways Finns can relate to Russians by. That "Oh well, it is what it is" -kind of attitude.
@@MidWitPride Honestly, we really don't have much do to do with Urals. I would much rather point these similarities to shared ancestry in northeastern and eastern Europe, which would of course encompass Russians.
You are a mere puppet of the international banking system.
"wouldn't call Finland naive"
- naive guy
@@mnemonicpie Thanks for your input
With such a negative attitude made , looking only for something stupid to tell, with so many mistakes and lies, this was a sad video.Actually, most of small and big supermarkets are open every day, also sundays. Fortunately, most people are intelligent and do find the truth themselves.
He's making the comparison to other countries. Good luck buying a bottle of wine after 21, or on Sunday.
Even sundays?!!! Nine‼️ 😂😂😂
Super smart person response ty for clearing that up. 😆
Finland is not east european country .Its northern european....a fuckin huge difference
That comment felt like a joke to me. We do pride ourselves to be Northern or Western, but we do have Eastern influences if not from denying it. Even the coats of arms shows this
I think he meant more "shares border with Russia" with Eastern Europe, and not literally Eastern European
We've been both. Today we just religiously want to be Nordic in order to not be East-European
Russians are almost half Finnish ethnically; that's why some of them are quite capeable.
Before Finland was described as a Baltic Country at least before ww2
Mannerheim got kicked out of the Finnish army in his youth for drinking too much, so he joined the Russian army. Whilst serving the Tsar on an expedition to China and Tibet, he taught the then Dalai Lama to pistol shoot.
He was also involved in the coronation of Tsar Nicholas, which he declared to be the proudest moment of his life.
A bit more complicated than that. He was kicked out of the Cadet school in Hamina, so the only possibility to complete an officer's training was to get to a military school in Russia.
@@EdMcF1He was born in one of the spookiest baroque manor houses in Finland, which is an excellent museum now. The place was bought using the money donated for his equestrian statue; the donations were so huge they could not possibly be spent on a statue.
His father went bankrupt and fled to Paris with his mistress. The family was one of extremes, Mannerheim himself was a Dinosaur from another epoch.
@@t.wcharles2171 That certainly must've been quite a sight to see
@@cassu6 he said it was 'indescribably magnificent.'
You would’ve gotten hours of content from interviewing an old guy at a bar about immigration
We did do this, but they spoke in Finnish and Ed could only translate so much whilst being drunk.
@@Britannica1 understandable, not the easiest task
@@Britannica1 Ed couldn't translate because despite living 19 years in Finland he does not speak Finnish. One example of bad integration right there.
@@Quammor He did speak what seemed to an outsider as a decent level of Finnish, less then I would have expected tho, so somewhat agree.
@@Quammor I can tell you he can.Once gave a lecture in Finnish... Mine's is better though
Swedish speaking Finns are not Swedes.. I don't how you can get that wrong
They are sweeds who moved into Finland. Does not make them into fins haha
@@danieldelaney1377 same as Americans who speak English are English as they moved there
@@freezedeve3119 if their blood is still englidh yes
@@freezedeve3119No, it's not
@@danieldelaney1377Most of the finns who are swedish speaking are basically almost 100% finnish. Those who are not are still mostly finnish. Are the jihadists in your hometown english because they speak english?
I like Finns, they’re brutally honest if nothing else. You always know where you stand with them.
On holiday in Spain I made a made a comment about the weather, (the way I'd do to a British person as a matter of course) to a Finnish woman who was at least 20 years older than me. She took this innocent comment as a pass. I don't know who was more mortified, me or her. My guess is that Finns aren't used to speaking to strangers.
@@DavidJames-p9f We don't do that. Why would we, again?
We are also very blunt, straight to the point. No meaningless words to disrupt the bliss of silence.
@@pekkajarvinen69 I was going to reply to your comment, but then I changed my mind. (Sorry, I'm an American.)
😆
@@DavidJames-p9fIt was probably the eye contact you made. Now you know why Finnish men tend to avoid making eye contact.
Lumping all Fennoswedes as 'Swedes' is ignorant. Swedish speaking does not mean that you are not a Finn to begin with but in many cases Finnish speaking Finns have adopted Swedish language so if you're trying to figure out if someone is a human or a Finn then language is not sufficient.
Also the Finnish dialect of Swedish is different from Sweden's Swedish.
He does address this in and seems to use it to emphesize that Fennoswedes are not really the same as Finns, which I at least agree with. It is incorrect in the sense that Swedes would not agree that they are Swedish either but something unique. Something in between what the Afrikaans are to Dutch and the Baltic Germans were to the Germans.
Finnish Swedes are more woke and descption was fair.
The ”Fennoswedes” he mentioned was still ethnicaly swedish so counts non the less.
@@karhu96As a Fennoswede I can confirm
Finland was not an Axis country, and there was nothing to "get away with.' It was fighting against an enemy that wanted to destroy it and the West refused to help, and Germany did help
Ahahaha
@@ludara8697shut up troll
Most people dont know about the lapland war were we fought away the germans.
@@ludara8697 ?
Well don't take this as an endorsement of Russian colonialism but Finland had been a Russian subject for 100 years and wasn't destroyed, and in fact was far more independent than it had been under Sweden. There's no indication that Soviet leadership had any intent beyond taking land, whereas the Germans openly intended to wipe out the "asiatic" non-aryan races, which certainly includes the Sami if not the Finns as well.
There were many things wrong in the video. Misunderstandings and poor knowledge shows.
Well it’s his own views and musings as a foreigner to Finland. He’s not going to make correct deductions/observations about social customs and beliefs.
Such as?
@@mkh123Nearly everything is wrong. Names of The places are correct
This is the worst video I've seen about Finland. Like, ever. Imagine living in Oulu of all places and ragging on Helsinki.
Edward Dutton is his name. He is also a plagiarist, and was fired from a Finnish university, everyone can google that out.
@@HeilAmarth Plagiarist how?
@@kpg1973
By copying someone else's work, I imagine.
He does seem exactly the sort of pseudo-intellectual, dimwitted bigot that the Scrotus Eaters and their unwashed fanbase like to fawn over.
A finn here, and I thought it was quite amusing. I just felt bad that you didn't get some finn to take you under their wing, and show you all the finnish things people like here to do, such as sauna, fishing, hunting, hiking, and doing mythical things deep in the forest where no mortal dare enter nor can the leave.
Ps. I hate the cold nature and cold people, but it's a stockholm syndrome at this point, so its hard to leave this place. Its safe and you can trust what the people say. Cheers.
Yes! So many missed opportunities. Imagine some cozy evening mökki-sauna.
The short days half the year would be my end. Lol
Even your syndrome is Swedish?
guy seems pretty infuriating though
I love the Finns! I was blessed to meet my Hanu and Liza. Was invited to the wedding. What y’all call white nights. It was mid July. We smuggled liquor across the border because of the cost in Finland. I’m talking 20 gallons + of vodka and whiskey. I made so many lifelong friends at that wedding. (It’s been 20 years) we got shit hammered for 3 days. 😂 proper and respectfully full livers. Also what amazed me was the level of conversation. Not personal but deep philosophic conversation. It was great. Like “how do you think?” I was judged more about my thoughts and beliefs than my personality. Breathtaking. It was kinda like I need to know how you think before I open up to you. I really respect that and you don’t get that most places. I couldn’t do that hard cracked dark bread. Sucks the moisture right out. And no body shame. I love Finland. The people, the culture, the land. Anyone born there is blessed.
Irish are not English because the speak English. The same holds to Swedish speaking finns. Most of those 19th century elite guys who spoke swedish and shifted to Finnish, had mixed ancestry, Lönrot, who wrote Kalevala, mostly Finnish. Few proper Swedes became Finnish nationalists. Why is this so difficult to understand to foreigners?
Important point
But they are called swedes of Finland, not swedish speaking finns
@@TommyMiikhail No, they are never called "swedes". To call a "Finland's swede" (suomenruotsaleinen) a "swede", is kind of offensive, at least in southern F, and certainly something that will be corrected. There is no significant genetic difference between Finnish and Swedish speakers of the same regions, the difference between eastern/northern and western Finnish speakers is genetically much bigger. Jolly heretic is a habitual bullshitter and speaking like expert on subject he knows nothing about. That idiot knows absolutely nothing about Finnish history, but lectures about it like a professor. For instance, he does not even know that in 19th century most finns had Swedish names, and he thinks finns outbred swedes in Oulu, when they just changed names.. That he's married to a Lutheran priest tells all you need to know this pervert.
@@TommyMiikhail No they are not they are called Finnish-Swedes at most. Never just Swedes. And if a Swede moves to Finland he isn't called a Finnish-Swede he is still a Swede.
Most countries do not have this situation. An "Asian American" is simply that, an Asian in America, same goes for any other hypenated American. It does not mean that that particular American speaks Japanese despite being of white ancestry.
Same goes for a Somali-Swede or an Afghani-Swede, if such a term even exists. They aren't simply ethnic Swedes who speak Pashto, they are of a different ethnic origin.
The Swedish-speaking Finn situation is less common.
I mean this video was pretty bad, and I could smell some Russian bias there.
> Son of Swedish Nobles
> Fight for Russian Empire
> Fight for newly established Finnish state
> Become national hero
> Go into the middle of nowhere to start a business
> Fight again in WW2 against both USSR and (GERMANY)
> Go back to your business
> Still loves Tsar Nicholas II
Least confusing part of anything Finnish related
It's simple. He hated communists.
> Trained soldier willing to fight for Finland.
Best we could do, as Finland did not have its own military at the time.
As it was often the case, the Swedish elite didn't disappear under the Tzar, they just swore loyalty to the new leader, but kept the values and ideas of aristocrats. They didn't necessarily care about having a nation state as much as they cared about figthing communism.
He was a man of the Empire and loathed the communists that came after.
But still always based.
Your pal seems like a very dislikeable fellow with the attitude of a sneering and arrogant imperialist, so no wonder he doesn't enjoy himself here. We probably don't enjoy him either. Glad you liked the food though.
:D I thought he quite liked to be here :D
Boohoo
@@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc I am starting to notice a pattern here. Some one is bitter and he is not a Finn😉
@@jarnovilen5259 The only ones coping here are Finns lmao. Maybe do some reflecting before commenting. You are the most bitter people I've ever met. You never take accountability for anything and always deny everything.
@@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wcu okay bro :D ?
Brit here , lived in Finland for over 2 yrs before moving back to good ol' blighty :( the finns arent the happiest people in the world but they are the most content and know where true happiness comes from- great work/life balance,nature,peace of mind and family.
A Finn here. I think in the Finnish version of the happiness survey is actually using the word content instead of happy.
Tyytyväinen = content, satisfied
Onnellinen = happy, joy
Great work-life balance. That explains why everything is closed all the time.
This guy is presenting Finns as dirt bags. That is a new take on Finland.
Mio’s is absolutely slammed
On a Monday!
Great minds think alike
My almost date was a no show
Widow
Still struggling with life
Those “swedes” are finns. We speak two languages in Finland. Not every national identity has one language.
Englishmen can't comprehend this.
I believe even Englishmen dont consider all English-speaking Irishmen to be Englishmen... Not more complicated
Why are they speaking Swedish then?
@@浅野旅団 same reason Americans don’t speak Cherokee or navajo. Colonialism. Still don’t call english speaking americans english.
@浅野旅団 Because Finland used to be part of Sweden and Swedish remained as the primary language of administration and education until 1920's. There was a fight to change that, which was mostly done by Swedish-speaking Finns for nationalistic reasons, it never had anything to with whose a Swede as there were no Swedes around.
A full hour video about Finns without showing a single Finn. I'm puzzled. Many good observations, though.
I thought the same
He has more in common with the Finns than he knows.
Seemed to me that there were barely any Finns in the country, lol. Are they all hiding in the woods?
We heard some... that was about as extrovert as they could handle.
And didn't go to sauna. :P
The Finns were forced to clear mines also in Soviet waters. About 20000 mines were laid by the Soviets, which were the problematic ones, as the location of these was not known.
Considering how many people also died in order to clear all the mines as part of the peace treaty, i'd say a little brass sign is least bit of respect that could be shown to them.
That swastika explanation was completely out of the woods. The swastika was the emblem of the Finnish Air Force before World War II. That is, in use before the nazis took it over. Finns still don't associate the swastika only with the nazis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force
We also had our own "swastikas" long before that (tursaansydän) but the video is meant to be 50% comedic I'm sure rather than a factual documentary. Lots of the stories told in the video are quite made up.
Yea a lot of incorrect info being spoken with authority in this video
Katsoitko edes saman videon? Tais mennä täysin ohi kohta missä selitettiin ihan oikein tuon symbolin alkuperä mutta oli pakko tulla vinkumaan kommentteihin :D
@@jm-holm Basically every European country had their own swastikas
@@RaffieFaffie not just europe, all the world, including the new-world had sun wheels aka swastikas.
Saying that Finnish cultural persons etc are Swedish is same that claiming all Irish people British for they have been under Britsh crown and talked same language.
No - they were Finns.
True
How can they Finnish Sweds can be Finns if they even look different? 😂 I knew some swedish girls from Finland and trust me they looked a little bit more...ehm...how to say that... different 😂 in a good way 😂 And obviously when your surname is Karlson and not Karlsonien you aren't Finn.
@@Telefon-nu3ch A little known fact (to ignorant idiots such as yourself) is that many "Swedish" surnames overe here were created not that long ago.
I actually lost a Finnish friend because I didn't hate Russia enough. He thought that was immoral, so he didn't love me any more. What the actual.
Kalevala was not collected by a "Swedish" guy. Elias Lönnroth was a Finnish speaking Finn, despite of his name, which was not uncommon at the time. Also the man who composed the national anthem was not Swedish but German, who had emigrated into Finland.
Similarly Mannerheim wasn't Swedish. His family had migrated to Sweden from Germany a few hundred years earlier but it was already his great-grandfather who had moved to Finland from Sweden. His grandfather was the governor of the Viipuri province in the Grand Duchy of Finland under Russia.
I think the big mistake being done here is assuming the people with Swedish names or speaking Swedish were Swedish. It was common for people higher up in the society to use Swedish and adopt Swedish or Swedish-sounding names. It aided them due to Finland's history of being ruled by Sweden and Swedish having been the language of the ruling class. Many families also had some origins in Sweden but had since moved to Finland and become Finnish, yet they retained the Swedish names and even language. Finally, Christianity had been introduced to Finland through the Swedes. When the Finns started adopting Christian names, many would initially adopt the Swedish form.
If he was trolling to get under the Finns' skins, well played.
Yeah what an idiot.
Most finnish people aren't finns either, there are more tavasts, swedes and karelians than actual finns
"man discredits entirety of sweden."
@@bennyklabarpan7002 karelians are a different people from finns? arent they all uralic?
p.s. i dont like these two fucking limey cucks...they dont know what theyre talking about...they do a dis-service to the finns imo
Finland's suicide rate is lower than the USA, yet I've never heard anyone descripe the US as ridden with suicide, like they do with Finland and other Nordic countries.
Because the stat youre looking for is "gun violence deaths" in the US.
because it used to be a lot higher here nad has only declined to the EU average, which is still a lot, in the last decade
There is a strong urge to find something - anything to attack them with. It's politically motivated of course.
@@thedudefromrobloxxdid it really decline or migrants just don't do it as opposed to finns
Suicide is not accurately counted in America. Murders are often counted as such, as in people on Clinton suspected kill list for example, and people overdose and do dangerous things hoping for chance of dying are counted as accidents. Suicide in death has to do with motive and motive cannot always be proven. Personality disorders such as borderline and anti-social use threats of suicide to try to manipulate and control others and sometimes are known to accidently die in suicide because person they expected to find them over dosed and save them worked late that night. They plan to be found and saved and scare somebody into capitulating to their demands. They have not been listed as suicide but accidental, self-inflicted accident when they have that cluster B personality diagnosis and medical history of admitting wanting to self-harm for attention. When they say suicide treats are a call for help, it is a call for attention and person wants you to stop everything and turn your world upside down to give them anything they want. It is holding themselves ransom instead of taking somebody else as ransom, but you are the person truly held ransom. So, toxic manipulators turn off would be helpers who burn out eventually and stop trusting people and manipulation receive countless aid where real people struggling are silent and often neglected. Toxic manipulators also turn some people depressed and suicidal because those toxic people use and discard people as they see people only as tools for themselves. To get back at people not helping them personality disorders will call up jobs of people they are angry at and try to get them fired and try to slander people and destroy lives. Makes a new depressed and real suicidal person at times depending upon victims own resilience. Therefore, if we were real in trying to address suicide rates, we would remove indefinitely criminals and documented malicious cluster B personality disorders as they make everybody else's lives unnecessarily worst. We do not need them for progress or self-growth (saying good cannot exist without evil) because enough adversity already exists naturally. Any place with criminals and toxic personalities running around will have a high suicide rate. Cities are not called riddled with suicide because cause of death is what they are called riddled with, unusually as deaths from firearms or overdoses on drugs. Places with homeless people looking like zombies, like San Franscico and Philadelphia are Americans who can be said to be suicidal but not quite finished. Those are called cities of high drug abuse instead. Leading cause of death with firearms is suicide, but firearms is called leading cause of death, not suicide. 6 out of every 10 gun death is a suicide. In 2022 gun suicide rate among black teens surpassed gun suicide by white teens. Firearms are a tool and not the motive, yet firearms are blamed. Then we can continue to refuse to address the causes by blaming the tools. And that is how America hides its ugly problems.
finally, a travel youtuber who doesnt just stay at helsinki
You will never be a woman
There is something outside Helsinki? JK
It's amazing how full of shit youtubers are when it comes to that sort of thing
@@SamiJuntunen1 Yes, Finland.
If I left Helsinki could I find a goth gf?
My dad said he had more friend’s in Finland than he ever had in the US. ❤
Even some Finns think that Finland's suicide rate is particularly high. In reality, Finland's suicide rate is currently at the European average. Suicides have decreased in Finland since 1990. However, the suicides of young people are worrisome.
They're being replaced within their own nation. Thier leader is willing to thrown them all in the meat grinder against Russia for America.
I think its more normal for countries where there is no poverty to be more suicidal. Having what you need but still depressed is a bigger reason to end your life than to have nothing and everyday is a fight for survival. Then you would strive for survival.
Finland (and to a lesser degree Sweden and Denmark) has become the default option of "problem deflection" for most Europeans.
Whenever you start criticising a country for the problems of organisation and discipline they always deflect it as "we are passionate" or whatever else word they like using and they bring these countries to further feed the misunderstanding by telling you how "those robot like soulless countries end up being so depressed and alcoholics", being stuck back to the numbers of the 90s, because of course they only can recall the numbers of their favourite news shows from their times and looking up on statistics is too advanced.
Honestly France is worse in every category. Germany is following closely. Finland and Denmark are actually doing very well and at this point in terms of numbers they are getting closer and closer to southern Europe. Sweden is a different case because of their crisis. Norway is all over the place but honestly still doing good in terms of improvement.
Btw I grew up in a French speaking household and I've travelled in Germany more than any other country, I don't have any issue with them, but also growing up in southern Europe those are seen as the "passable" and the Nordics as the "too soulless"
Also I want to emphasise one thing, Scandinavia and Finland are not perfect and they will never be, but they are the only countries in Europe that strive for constant improvement and that shows. As a Greek that is *EVERYTHING* I could ask for, fuck sun and fuck social life, trust in a society is far more important and comforting.
What else happened in 1990? 🤔
Finnish economic chrisis caused by the collapse of the USSR their main source of money @@DzinkyDzink
Are we human? No. We are finns.
You are Ukko's chosen people!
Indeed.
Finland should hire the two Britts to do PR work.
Finnoids. Are you drunk right now?
You guys talk too much
Suicide rates are not skyhigh anymore, they are EU average. This has happened in the last decade so many people still don't know about it.
As that priest said all the sad people killed themselves.
Why was it high beforehand?
@@georgemulford2910 growing pains from joining the new world order.
@@georgemulford2910Eu elections maybe?
@@georgemulford2910 Alcoholism, culture that emphasizes not complaining and handling your own shit, dark winters and lack of proper care. There is so much less stigma about mental health problems, care is not that much better but they do take it more seriously. Gen X already was much better at talking about their problems more openly and consider it normal to have problems. The newer generations are even better at that.
Boomers and the Great Generation were taught to shut up and deal with it, to suffer quietly and to be ashamed of having mental issues, depression, anxiety etc. If anyone had known that you go to therapy you would've been social pariah... Which lead to widespread alcoholism as people tried to self medicate.
Having Dutton as your companion was a real disservice to your trip. That guy is in no way qualified to represent Finland
Yes, a total dickhead who talks of his arse.
there is an old irish saying - If two neighbors are fighting, it means that an englishman visited one of them yesterday.
and now those brits are in Finland
Did the old Irish saying spell 'neighbours' without a 'u' on purpose?
@@dannyarcher6370 oh shush
They love there Fabian tactics don't they?
Finns just want to be left alone and do as we please. Whether it is on the individual or international level. However, the rest of the world doesn't seem to comply, so we have been forced to intermingle and much ill and woe has befell because of it.
I feel you, man. I wish the world had not come to my country, either. It's a culturally polluted mess now.
❤
This is so so true.
You vill not escape ze bugz. You vill not escape having no property. You vill not escape the happiness.
@@Rezec75 We will escape into the forests like we always did if things get too dire.
Ed on Helsinki: decadent hell hole
Ed on rural cuisine: peasant food
middleclassism?
He is a caricature of a Edwardian middle class man, what do you expect?
@@SuperFranzs Uh, I don't know, I'm American.
resmarted@@resmartedTypical middle-class Brit who failed to achieve any form of status in his own country and is now whoring abroad where he might get visibility just by being a foreigner.
Helsinki is a hellhole and decadent 😂they say its the best city but all i see is junkies, hobos, thiefs and expensive prices😢
@@ForbiddenSecretsManuscripts This!
This is a great demonstration of why we Finns are so happy. This really is the worst you can find in Finland!
First you hired a cynical ignorant immigrant as your guide. Then you made sure to sleep long enough to miss all the fun every single day on your trip. And even chose to sleep in an old asylum. (Which is actually very classy!)
The only persons you (said to have) interviewed were not even Finns. Well, not by your own definiton at least - if they speak Swedish they are not Finns, right?
You really tried, and still I can only see beauty and happiness in the subject material.
And we seem to agree on the most important point: we Finns don't care how videos like this see us! :)
This comment sections has like 20+ finns who “don’t care”, including yourself, being somewhat disappointed or even feeling bad over a guy reading wiki and filming his actual experience without any bad words or intentions towards Finland and it’s people.
Never met a Finn in my life, so I am curious, are Finns such an egocentric whiners as this comments section shows, or this video was just posted on some Finnish right-wing resource?
@@浅野旅団 "Never met a Finn in my life, so I am curious, are Finns such an egocentric whiners as this comments section shows"
Not really, it's just that RUclips comment sections bring out the worst in and worst of people.
the inaccuracies in this video made it barely watchable… and having a british guy trying to lecture you in finnish culture is laughable
yeah, sad how he fumbled this video, was quite excited to watch it too, disappointing
This might be a somewhat unfinnish attitude but I think the inaccuracies and stereotyping etc. were a deliberate choice and added to the humour. The perspective is that of an Anglo explorer in a strange land. Of course the culture seems confusing to them. Sure, it's a missed opportunity to provide relevant insight. Though I don't think even an average Finn could be sufficiently pedantic with the facts for a Finnish audience. Luckily the comments are always full of helpful people with corrections.
@@juho9703 What is it with this term 'Anglo?' I'm from England and I find that (younger) Finns relate to American culture and society more than I do. "Anglo" is not a real thing. I don't even particularly like other English-speaking countries.
I disagree , everything said in this video was factual and correct.
you clarify, please.
One correction, liquorice and salmiakki are not the same thing. Liquorice is made of mainly liquorice root but salmiakki is when ammonium chloride is added, so they do not taste the same. And Finnish people do not consider them the same thing
Yumm ammonium chloride, my favourite food topping!
True, but they are kind of similar, but salmiakki is salty while liquorice is not. I hate them both and here it isn't easy to find bags of candy without some black ones in it, be it salmiakki or liquorice.
Salmiakki is the ammonium chloride that is added SOMETIMES to liqourice for specific candies. Salmiakki isn't a word for a salty liqourice.
The card game character is Mustapekka. Which is like a black man named Pekka. = Black Pekka
@@nicechock Also the round blackpepper cheese/ -cheese-sauce !
I grew up in Minnesota and I've read some interesting history about Finns coming to America (I have some Finnish ancestry). Evidently when the Finns started immigrating to the area to work the iron mines they ended up having to organize protests to be considered "White enough" to receive comparable wages to their counterparts who immigrated from more western regions of Europe. Some have said that the Swedish immigrants in the area disparaged them and claimed they were Asian in an attempt to discourage Finns from coming to the area lol.
The eternal Swedes...
That's right, Finns were called China Swedes and roundheads.
Sweden is gay version of Finland lol.
@@MrRaitzi No, Finland is the angry version of Sweden. Norway is the special ed version and Denmark is the drunk version. And Iceland is... Iceland.
TSD
"Everything is closed in Finland" ..... That should be on their Welcome to Finland signs.
Never seen a tourist in Finland who thinks that the best part here was food. Amazing.
Well to be fair, everything else he tried to do was closed.
He was right about the food, though. It's honest, real. Just like the Finns.
He is British. They eat beans for breakfast.
Lol, terrible food cultures stick together :D
I'm a Finn and fucking love the Nordics and it being so easy to live a good life here. A safe high trust social democracy rules.
But Nordic food is overall pretty bad. I like some weird Finnish stuff but mostly just eat food that originates from other places.
@@yarsivad000.5i was just about to say no wonder he liked our food.
You didn't show or speak to a single Finn in this video about Finland. That was weird.
nah that was perfectly expected. finns are like swedes in that matter. aka dont talk to strangers
You'd have to wonder if the Sub-Saharans heading to Finland could even point to it on a map before they left
They haven’t got maps.
Apparently, the American midwest, middle-nowhere, podunk town that I reside in was priority on their “vision board” too.
They can't even read
The people who sent them there probably just said to them that there's good welfare and blonde women.
They're biological weapons....
All the ''Swedes'' talked about in the video are Finlandswedes, not Swedes. A Finlandswede is just a Swedish speaking finn.
This guy is too stupid to even realize that. Edward Dutton is his name. He is also a plagiarist, and was fired from a Finnish university, everyone can google that out.
What's so wrong about rolling in the snow after getting out of the Sauna? What are you a prude?!
Yes.
@@vorynrosethorn903 I suspected as much. I bet you wouldn't even consume the local delicacy of river lampreys.
@@suspiciousentity9305 I would not consume lampreys even if my life depended on it. Salmiakki is the only Finnish delicacy I'll eat.
The Brits can be rather uptight about these sorts of very natural things.
Not prudish, we just rarely have snow, otherwise...
Britain declared war on Finland during WW2 but mostly to please their ally the Soviet Union. Churchill recognized Finland's problem and was actually sympathetic to the Finns plight. Hence Britain did not get into military fighting with Finland and to this day maintains good relations with Finland, signing military assistance pledges even before Finland joined NATO.
if my memory servers me right, it is the only time two democratic countries have been in war. At least on paper. ( But then again UK is an old empire with kings and such.)
Tho they did come here during the Napoleonic wars when Finland was part of Russian empire. There is still a British war ship maintained in Kokkola that was capture from the Royal Navy, probably only one in the world. They still pay us for keeping that thing in public display.
@@omiq7761 👌👌👌
Look at the world map of 1942 and find the shortest route through which Churchill could have sent a military force to fight against Finland.
@@justaddsrbs6867 northern route to murmansk, same as the equipment shipments to the soviet union
@@yeast7485 you may want to read how well PQ-17 fared on that route.
Somehow you found the craziest man in Finland
No wonder he's so mad about immigrants.
Just because for example Elias Lönnrot spoke swedish doesnt make him swedish😅 He was born in Finland and Finland indeed has two languages. Finnish and Swedish.
Socializing is exhausting for finns and I welcome everyone who thinks so. I have a house and I don't even know the neighbors I've had for 8 years.
I talk to my neighbours a couple of times a year. I consider them quite close, therefore.
Bliss. I'd 'fit right in' in Finland... if that's even an appropriate term for being terminally 'anti-social'. 😆
I don't know if socializing is exhausting for us finns but it's more like why bother or why to get to know some random neighbor. If someone comes to me and start a conversation i will talk with him/her but i don't want to make a friend out of that person necessarily so making friends in Finland is hard but when you get a friend you get a loyal friend.
I'd love to talk with random people here in Finland, but it always feels like I'd just be a bother if I just started randomly talking 😂.
If everyone is drunk, it's pretty easy & natural to talk with randoms though.
Not for us. Maybe the Finns just don't like you.
Of all the Brits living in the country, you picked Mr. Dutton. 🤣
Edward Dutton is his name. He is also a plagiarist, and was fired from a Finnish university, everyone can google that out.
@@HeilAmarth Not true
Being a direct descendant of the Lapuan Liike founder I feel like this is a great opportunity to elaborate on some of that. The reds lost the civil war mostly due to poor training and organization. The whites had a bunch of people trained in Germany. Then they managed to seize a lot of Russian equipment when things started to heat up, this wasn't too hard since the russians didn't really know what to do with their own command chain being as fucked as it was. During the 1920s the government made a bunch of concession to the socialist side to repair the rift caused by the civil war. Meanwhile in soviet Russia the commies were doing their thing and a lot of people got killed. This of course made people very suspicious when the communists in Finland kept up with their demands of more socialism. So it was decided that the safest move was to just rid the country of communists so they can't try another coup or act as partisans when the russians invade. All of that ended surprisingly peacefully with first most of communist activity being shut down and them being denied all kinds of democratic rights we take for granted nowadays. Ironically those same laws the the Lapuans got into effect were later applied to ban the Lapua movement after the most extreme members did a drunken "we're totally gonna coup you up" declaration and then got even more drunk and managed to achieve absolutely nothing. Most members then moved onto a slightly more democratically oriented party (the original movement wasn't even an actual party) and even got some people into the parliament. They got shut down by the soviets however after ww2 along all the other meddling they did to influence finnish politics.
During the attempted drunken coup my grandfather took the task of driving the car as the leaders were too drunk. The police searching for Kosola in the local bars and restaurants could not find him as he was staying overnight at our house. My grandfather was later in a police hearing but was not found guilty of anything illegal. Was later member of parliament.
It's a shame communists are granted democratic rights today.
One common misconception about the civil war is that a lot of people think that the red side had a lot of Russians. This was not the case.
@@pettahify That is true. Most of them left Finland to defend Petersburg from germans and only a few thousand remained
funniest thing is the longest running president of the american communist party Gus Hall, was a finnish american who was also Vihtoris 3rd cousin. Definetly interesting political history in your family.
That was a really weird video. I am not sure if its just a "troll" video since you didnt even speak to a single Finish guy on video. Dafuq was that?
Hw explained that he couldn't find any Finnish that wanted to have a conversation
@@DogratDavis And he decided to include a British man that was talking about his ideology in a tourist video? Idk bro, i find it hard to believe that.
I always thought bald and bankrupt would come to Finland first but we probably don’t have enough soviet stuff
Also not a cheap country where you can get 😸 just by showing off your passport
@@McDuggets lol
Maybe there's not enough strip clubs for him to visit there
Bald really likes Hesburger and Finlandia Vodka, but he probably thinks Finland is too liberal and not poor enough for him to visit.
@@McDuggets The women are notoriously easy though
You're very wrong about calling every second person Swedish. Those people are Swedish-speaking Finns, didn't consider themselves Swedes. Language (which in the case of Finnish Swedish is quite different from proper Swedish anyway) doesn't go hand in hand with national identity all the time. The difference between them and Swedes is so large that actual Swedes ask them to speak English when they hear them.
The men he mentiond are still ethnicaly swedish, so they count.
I have met and spoken to Swedish speaking Finns and I definitely did not have to ask them to speak English. I do agree with the rest of what you are saying though, they should be refereed to as Swedish speaking Finns.
Being Swedish, I can confirm that we absolutely understand the Swedish-speaking Finns without issue. Maybe immigrants in Sweden have trouble understanding them, but it would be the same kind of people that have trouble understanding the southern Swedish dialect skånska. If Swedish is your first language, you will understand it.
It's more like some customer service worker in Stockholm might answer in English to a Swedish-speaking Finn out of politiness, as they first think he's speaking bad Swedish.
@@skurt9109 They are not. For example, Lönnrot had Finnic N1c paternal line, not Scandinavian I1. The same also goes for Sibelius and the Jansson family at least.
Finnish language originating from Ural mountains doesn't equal most Finnish people originating from there. Finland has been inhabited since the end of the last ice age, much before uralic languages arrived. People then spoke ancient now-extinct languages unrelated to modern languages. We have a hint of those languages in some place names, such as Saimaa, Päijänne and Inari, which are names of some of the biggest lakes in Finland.
The common ancestor of Baltic-Finnic peoples (Finns, Estonians, Karelians etc. many more) originates from the Volga river region in Russia.
The common ancestor of all Sami peoples also comes from there, but they populated Fennoscandia and Western Russia earlier than Baltic-Finnics did.
The Uralic language group as a whole, which contains the latter groups both, and more groups with their origins in central Siberia, likely does originate from Siberia truly.
So, one could say, yes, the earliest roots of Finnish language are quite possibly in Siberia, but we're talking about a time before even the divergence of Pan-Baltic-Finnic ancestors.
Uralic peoples/cultures do share genetic ingredients in common. We all have some North Asian ancestry. The most eastern Uralic people like Nganasan or Selkup look more North Asian than they look "European", and many other Uralic groups really look like a sliding scale from North Asian to European ("white" or whatever) looking.
Finnish people are a mix of that North Asian but also local European ingredient. Some Finns have a more 'Eastern' genome while others have a more 'Germanized' one, especially in the west coast of the country where Swedes settled heavily during their crusades into Finland. Good amount of ethnic Finns also probably descend from culturally assimilated Sami peoples as well, with no modern connection to Sami culture or identity. So. Finns have many origins as people.
Both Finns and Sami have probably mixed with the "paleo-european" now-extinct culture that lived here before either group.
Said culture was most likely Indo-European linquistically, and Sami languages have loanwords from their extinct language.
I think these ancient Indo-European groups of northern Europe might be whom the North Asian Uralic ancestors mixed with, creating those Uralic groups that look like a mixture of European and North Asian.
@@knarme5160 majority of finns today share most ethnic simularity to swedes becouse most of them are
Most of us finns still have n-haplo group genes wich are asian and uralian. Of course we have mixture also like all people on earth. But its stupid or ignorance that many finns think they are indoeuropeans and even western. The western colonialisimg in the past and modern western politics have brainwashed most of modern finns. Our fathers were not western nor liberal. We are finno-ugrics.
@@gabrielgabriel5177 You are stupid, you are more indoeuropean (swedish) than uralic. Why dont you have monolid eyes? It is becouse you got fucked to bad you turned swedish.
@@knarme5160 Germanic ancestry in Finns is much older than Swedish colonization of Finland, unless those Swedes then gave Swedish women to Finnish men. Most likely scenario for that admixture is that prior to early Finnic people expanding from the Baltic to Finland, Finland was settled by Germanic-like people who were then assimilated by the coming Finnic people. This also makes sense in paternal haplogroups, as only 5% of the I1 lines in Finland are clearly Swedish in origin.
I liked the video, even though i'm a finn 😅 As seen from these comments, we are fairly proud people, but maybe some of us have a sense of humor also 😊 On another point: there was ALOT of russian tourism in finland in the 2000's, but the turn started in 2014, when first eu sanctions hit. After that many malls etc in eastern finland suffered, especially near the border. Tax free tourists dissapeared. So the border cafe you went to might have been closed for much longer.
The "True Finns" party would be more correctly translated to "Basic Finns" or "Normal Finns".
Ive always wondered about the "true finn" translation, how they even came up with that one - sounds super far right and ethnic when compared to the actual finnish reading of boring "average finn".
@@iivarilappalainen9836 I suppose calling your party "Basic" or "Normal" just sounds quite boring, which might not be very good in electoral politics. The word "perus" could also be translated as "foundational", especially in some context. So I guess "perus" is just a trick word to translate in a way where you're using the closest English language match, while not sounding overly bland.
@@Z1tu0 the english name has very little meaning to the elections in finland though.
Could be they just flipped coin or went with what sounds coolest.
Now that i think about it again, they could be actually rebranding to "finns party" in english. Think they had some material with that name recently.
@@iivarilappalainen9836 I would go with the cool name theory if I had to make a guess.
Isn't it their Swedish name which is translated into English as True Finns?
_Sannfinländarna_
So many factual mistakes right from the get go, like considering Elias Lönnrot a swede, that I couldn't watch further. So let me just state for the record as a Finn, no we don't particurlarly like to be considered as being human.
thanks for your input and now crawl back into your hole...
"This is just a big bunch of cherry-picked out of context facts and semi-truths" might sound cliche, especially in this day and age, but as a Finn I can say that in this case it's quite true. This is a beautiful example of taking and highlighting individual facts, isolating them from the larger context, and peppering them with half truths and outright made up stuff in order to create a very misleading picture.
Although I get a bit the impression this was done a bit tongue-in-cheek, but it's hard to tell. If it's humor, it's a bit too subtle.
A few months ago my family and i visited Helsinki and i saw happy, relaxed and smiling Finns enjoying their lives. They were very helpful and kind.
I am jealous of their society and way of life. I don't usually comment on videos i dislike but in this one i felt that I had to.
Survive the Jive: Are Finns European?
Britannica: Are Finns human?
Who's going to be the one to ask if Finns are even Earthlings?
Funny, as a Finn I always thought that all the foreigners were aliens 👽
As the video didn’t find any Fins, the jury’s still out
I think the question should be are finns native europeans, unlike most europeans who arent native to europe but migrated to europe en mass. Then answer would be kind of, given the very small percentage of hunter gatherer dna left in finnish genome. But not really, as all native europeans/native european genome were basically wiped out by one way or another by the neolithic farmers who took over europe. Likely mostly by breeding the hunter gatherers out over time. Replacing the small native populations of europe.
But if one asks are modern finns just general europeans, then the answer is more or less yes. As most "europeans" genome is similar enough to categorize them into one larger more generic group compared to other people/groups. In case of many european countries, they are the same exact people but just living in different countries with different languages and customs. Because reasons i guess.
This is why one cant say ones genetic heritage based on language. I mean im finnish, not english, even though i speak and write english. And i am not swedish even though i speak and write swedish. To a british person that might seem weird given how some people speak and write many languages but british only one. Thus language spoken and/or written is a very defining characteristic to a british or such while its not to many others.
Atlantean gardens: Are Finns... everybody?
A slight correction. Finland hasn’t had high suicide rate after 90s. Since then things have improved.
Well, depends what is a high rate. It is higher than in India, Austria, Canada, Kenya or Sweden for example. Even Japan has lower suicide rate than Finland.
@@jukkam19 Above 30 is high rate, below 10 is low. We are at the middle with 13 per 100k
For a tourism video about Finland, there sure weren't many Finns shown.
There were parts of the video what explained pretty much what you typed
What can you expect from a brit...
They hibernate for most of the year
Have you been to tourist spots? It's all foreigners.
Maybe he wasnt even visiting Finland but made video using empty AI scenery
Why do you consider Swedish speaking people in Finland SWEDES? They are Swedish speaking Finns. Language and nationality are different things.
Because he don't think about nationality, he think ancestry / genetics.
Geenit ja kulttuuri ovat tärkeämpi hänelle kuin jokin passi.
Because he's retarded.
@@SavolaxMitsu Pohjanmaalla asuvat suomenruotsalaiset eivät geneettisesti juuri eroa Pohjanmaan suomenkielisistä jollei ruotsalaisia oteta vertailuun mukaan. Etelärannikon hurreista ei valitettavasti olla tehty vastaavaa tutkimusta.
@@FrazzP Niin ja kun Ruotsalaiset otetaan mukaan vertailuun, niin ovatko sitten Pohjanmaan rantahurrit geneettisesti lähempänä sveduja vaiko Pohjanmaan suomalaisia?
@@SavolaxMitsu Muistaakseni jakoivat noin 70% geeneistään suomenkielisten kanssa. Itäsuomalaiset ja länsisuomalaiset taas eroavat geneettisesti yhtä paljon kuin Saksalaiset ja Englantilaiset, pitääkö niitäkin ruveta eri etnisyyksiin jakamaan?
Englanninkielisten ei pitäisi tehdä turistivideoita Suomesta kun eivät saa edes perusfaktoja oikein. Tää jätkä on muuten sympaattinen ryssille niin sisältö on sen mukasta.
I love how watchers of this channel have now grown entirely used to having North Korean music used as a score, no matter what the subject country might actually be.
Edward Dutton is his name. He is also a plagiarist, and was fired from a Finnish university, everyone can google that out.
what is the title
@@HeilAmarth I've seen you post this under every other comment. My dude. Give up. No one cares.
A lot of Finns have Swedish last names, but most of these actually do not speak Swedish, they just have a male ancestor with a Swedish last name. Most of these names were given by Swedish priests, who couldn't spell Finnish names, so they replaced the unintelligible name with a Swedish one that sounded remotely similar.
It's more like people didn't have last names and were given a random one. It wasn't before 20th century that people had to have last names.
@@jonnenne That was indeed the case with a lot of people, but not everybody.
@@jonnenne Wrong. People had last names well before the 20th century, they just weren't always hereditary. I'm Swedish, my last name Andersson is a patronym of one of my ancestors who lived in the 1800s.
This video is littered with a whole bunch of absolutely wild inaccuracies but my favorite bit's gotta be 41:28 and the word "fetish store" when the store in question is just your average Underground, a chain piercing studio/clothing store for alternative folks lmao.
this was actually much much better than most travel youtuber stuff. Great mix of not making it about yourself, but the country. There's great chemistry with the Dutton guy, like two different perspectives.
Really really good stuff.
Calling Elias Lönnrot Swedish is almost as bad as calling Merlin French. Elias Lönnrot (1802-1884) was a Finnish physician, philologist, and folklorist best known for compiling and editing the “Kalevala,” the Finnish national epic. He gathered folk poems, songs, and stories from the oral traditions of Finnish and Karelian culture, combining them into a cohesive narrative that has had a significant influence on Finnish national identity and literature. Lönnrot’s work helped preserve these traditions and played a crucial role in promoting Finnish language and culture during a time when Finland was under Russian rule. His efforts also contributed to the development of Finnish as a literary language. Greetings from Finland! Love your show mate!!
What was his native language?
@@TheJollyHeretic Yes, Elias Lönnrot was Finnish. He was born on April 9, 1802, in Sammatti about 5 miles where I was born, which was then part of the Swedish Empire (now Finland). Lönnrot is best known for compiling the “Kalevala,” the Finnish national epic, which played a significant role in the development of Finnish cultural identity and the rise of Finnish nationalism in the 19th century. He was also a linguist, physician, and an important figure in the promotion of the Finnish language and culture. Like myself, I was taught Swedish in school because Finland is a bilingual country. He spoke both languages coz you can’t write Finnish national saga in Finnish if you don’t speak the language.
@@TheJollyHeretic Unfortunately I'm not educated on the subject, or in fact I'm not educated at all. Would you be able to recommend some high class, respected university to study Finnish and Swedish history? I've heard about this "Asbiro University" where you could supposedly receive titles like "Professor of Evolutionary Psychology of Business", despite the fact the whole institution doesn't meet the standards to be considered a real university. Apparently it's an easy way for an entrepreneur to receive a fancy sounding title. Pretty neat, huh?
@@hevosenpaska114 What was his native language? It was Swedish. Though there seems to be a myth that it was Finnish. Elias Lönnrot, National Writer by Pertti Karkama says his native language was Swedish and I'll believe him over you.
@@TheJollyHeretic his native language matters why? Even if it was Swedish, how does that make him not Finnish ethnically, culturally and geographically? By your logic Ireland is just a country filled with Englishmen and the United States and Canada are still full of English people. This is obviously not sensible.
Edward Dutton has lived 19 years in Finland yet he dosn't speak finnish. One example of bad integration right there.
Not true, I've heard him say racist in Finnish and other jolly gibberish
I have done lectures in Finnish at Oulu University, and that was in 2011. One example of a silly Finnish person right there.
Well, I know what a rautatieasema is.
PWND!!
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@@TheJollyHereticonko videoita niistä missään katsottavissa?
The Finnish relationship with the swastika is as ancient as the land itself. The design may have changed when that one swedish baron or whatever he was brought to finland from somewhere in 1917-18 but the ancient swastikas are also widely in use all over the place
Haha great example of how to say "it's different" 😂
@@Telefon-nu3ch yeah, it is different and is the least used. The older ones are much more prevalent and are even more different. In meaning and in design.
@@flameofudun4238 suuuure
@@Telefon-nu3ch you're not obligated to believe, I can't expect everyone to be able to think critically
@@flameofudun4238 sure, I am just expressing my opinion :) freedom of speech, you know :)
"Only Finland - superb, nay, sublime" - Winston Churchill
Finns are just as European as any other European people but Finns haven't mixed so much with other population groups.
Majority of European populations are mixes of more than one different population groups when Finns are comprised mainly of one.
Before someone goes "but what about muh Asian genes" there' are no Asian genes. There's a haplo group that we share with some Asian populations but that haplo group came to Europe before there were Asians or Europeans. The idea that Finns are Asians originates from Axel Olof Freudenthal who was very much a Swedish supremacist and anti-Finnish person.
Felt a bit offended by the assumption of a Swedish name = Swede. It's not like the finns weren't subhumans in their own country with a Swedish name as a mandatory to be middle class.
This guy doesn't know anything. Many Swede-Finns actually changed their names to Finnish names during 1800's, talking about hundred thousand. Edward Dutton is also a known Finn hater, he even got fired from a Finnish university for plagiarism.
Exactly when were Finns subhumans in their own country? What time are you referring to?
Wow you're incredibly uninformed of your own history. At no point, ever, were finns considered "subhuman" in Finland lol.
@@Lars-Liam-Vilhelm During the swedish reign we absolutely were tf.. how dare you
@@Petjuspelailee You were not lol. Had the exact same rights as any Swede. Sure you needed to learn Swedish to have any higher, noteworthy education, but that's more due to the aristocracy and not so much to do with Finnish people being considered "subhuman".
It’s always tough as an ex British person to see these takes on Finland after having lived here for many years. They rarely ever represent what life is like.
Me too. I live in Pori. This is my take on Finland ruclips.net/video/g5-xLvQ9KHg/видео.html
This guy is a total tool as well. Edward Dutton. He is a plagiarist, and was fired from a Finnish university.
@@HeilAmarthNot true