Bass players and batytone players don't overlap... Not the same range, musical scope, not the same tone, not the the same function in a band, not the same playing... Kidding apart, you do'nt have to fire your bass player, anyway. Not for that reason.
Totally agree! I've been playing baritone for a couple years now and strongly encourage every guitar player to get one. Great for stoner rock, metal and sits perfectly between regular guitar and bass!
This "sitting" is the discussion I want to have. Been totally interested in a Baritone for a while but always worry about how this would work. Do you feel you compose (alto?) guitar parts differently because you have baritone? I feel like the overlap is so huge.
Saam I don’t really write the songs differently because of it. It all depends on the style and the key of the song I’m writing. I use it about 50% of the time in my stoner band. There’s another guitarist playing standard guitar, so that range is also covered. I have an alternative rock band with my brother and there I just use it sometimes to add some balls to certain parts. It’s all about trying things out and seeing if it works for the song. The tuning needs a bit of getting used to, but you quickly get the hang of it!
@@JubbyDubbis I made a baritone with a Duesenberg Les Trem and it worked really really well (I messed around with it and managed to screw up the tension or anti tension but set up right it worked great - I got someone to pull back on the bit holding the strings while I tightened the bolt to set the resistance right)
I’m starting up a new wave / post punk revival project and this guitar might be just what the doctor ordered! It has a unique and quirky sound that I find absolutely enticing. Fantastic video!
HOLD THE PHONE: get a baritone with a long enough neck "scale length" to accommodate your tuning. I play drop g on a 28" baritone, and the intonation is solid, its amazing to be intune up the whole neck. 27" will" intonate to A, and 27.75" will intonate Ab. Remember, its a solid sound, and boy do you hear it. Using a 7 string will get you there partially. But doesn't have the dense saturated tonal abilities the baritone has naturally. A standard 25.5" scale 7 string will only intonate to A tops in my experience. Now if you want all the range, get a 7 string mutiscale 28"- 26.5" , and youll be able to do drop F#, and keep that high E string. Thats my dream guitar. Ps: everyone needs a subcontra bass guitar. :)
I am the proud owner of a Yamaha AES520 Drop 6 (baritone guitar) and I can say that baritones are very inspiring guitars and fun to play too. One can also approach a baritone guitar as a 7 string guitar without the high E string.
B-B is two and a half, not three and a half steps down. Also if you use thick enough strings it won't get floppy, I use 13-62 in a Les Paul and it's just perfect.
Man! A Bass VI will give you the most haters if you cannot play at least like gedy lee, because he plays with a freaking 4.... and they look bad. Get a Baritone! :-)
So what makes the baritone guitar? Is it the strings? You said that if you try to tune a standard guitar to match a baritone's tuning the strings will be floppy, but couldn't you just buy tighter strings to put on a standard guitar?
I use a regular scale 6 string in B standard but I just use 12-54 gauge strings and it works great. I'd still love to get a baritone though but I have an 8 string as well for really low tunings.
The29.5 " scale isn't too hard if you play power chords ? I have a big hesitation between this one and the 27" of the Eastwood ... hmmm... what do you think ?! This one sounds soooo cool too
I just bought my first baritone guitar. Happened to see a schecter baritone on Ebay at a steal of a price. Had to get it. I'll admit it'll be a bit alien to me for awhile. Even more excited after watching this.
I've been looking into getting a baritone for quite some time. I love my 7 string, but I'd love to try a something new like a baritone guitar. I've also been looking to play a 6 string in Ab tuning. Would that tuning work well for a baritone guitar...or should I just stay with my ugly 7 string, lol?
I play a six string with the low strings from a 7 string with the G string being tuned a half step. So tuned B E A D F# B so so the open chords still work
Would love to own one (especially a Danelectro!!!) But it's hard justifying getting one since I own a Whammy DT that can with ease turn any guitar in a baritone :/
I want a baritone 7-strings guitar to play with a looper and a sequencer/sampler/beatbox laying down bass lines and funk-like guitar lines xD Am I weird?
Personal Problems well sure you could but most guitars aren't meant to have that kind of tension of the necks, henceforth why a baritone neck is thicker and wider to accommodate the tension. I'm pretty sure if you put heavy gauge on any regular guitar you'll snap the bridge/ saddle before you get anywhere.
i want one but not now, i have only one electric guitar (Sx Stratocaster) , it's good but not awesome, doesn't really inspire me, can you guys recommend me a second guitar to buy? i want to sell my strat and get a better guitar
Don't let anyone BS you with the "get what you pay for" schtick,- 2019, you're paying dearly either for woods that matter little, or a brand name.Squier and Epiphone are putting out plenty that rivals their parent counterparts,- China, Indonesia, Mexico,- all good now.Be a musician instead of a fashion victim, and you'll be able to get a decent baritone as well.Were you having specific issues with the SX? Most I've seen and heard were pretty nice; they have a good rep among those who know what matters-
If I buy a baritone guitar it’s because I want to play Amon Amarth and Staind. Maybe Breaking Benjamin, but I have a guitar that I tune down to C standard drop A#.
It’s always nice to find quality youtubers that aren’t just spewing bs, awsome vid dude, subbed fer sher... Question, what would you suggest when looking for a baritone? I’m totally lost on brands or pickups or gear or whatever for this relatively niche instrument
If you get a chance to try one, be aware of its scale length & suggested standard tuning. This will be the main selling point... the extra string tension/length on strings gives them a tone that literally sounds like thicker strings tuned tighter. Very cool sound if that's what you end up preferring instead of going as low as possible. See how it feels!
Is that the tone of the guitar? 1:52 That editing didn't convince me, neither did the low rumble in the background. Is this really this guitar you used to track this?
Hey, it's for sure the guitar! One track on the right side, and one on the left with different amp plugins. Part of the video is in slow motion though, maybe that sets you off?
Im thinking on getting one. but I play mostly D and C standart, and i'm most confortable with 10 or 9 gauge strings. Is it posible on a baritone to play on those tunnings with those strings and not get super super thight strings?
I play mostly Mastodon. And I know Bill Keliher uses like 60's on his guitars but i would like to avoid that. I've been playing on a normal guitar with 10 but on D its just to floopy. Maybe with 9's it would be the perfect tension for a baritone on D but I would have to try it out first. Thank you anyways for the reply!
There are a lot of 7, 8 and 9s that are really ugly, but it depends. Schecter makes some pretty extended range guitars, but basically anything looks nicer than an Ibanez.
Furthermore, the point of getting a 7 (or more) strings guitar is for their extended range. A standard baritone only shifts the range of the instrument, even if they have other qualities.
Hahah what a great video, u worked very hard! I love danelectro! I want at least 3 including a bari lol, idk y but when i think of "alternate" guitars i always think of danelectro
reason no. 5: The bassist can just put a 5set on his 4 string bass and use that last string to choke anyone who says, or even thinks, that a lower tuned guitar doesn't need bass :D
Nah, just get a Bass VI, then all the same string tuning but an octave lower EADGBE. You don't have to transpose to a different key, and you can hit the bass frequencies of the bass player you just sacked.
The local GC can't unload those once pricey 7's to save their lives- zero selling points.On the other hand, lucky if there's a single baritone in store.The take away? Lots of people had the same bad idea; want to drop tune? Dan Electro have been making these from the start.
lol that fat chick on the skateboard was so random .....
thanks for the complement, you're making the world a better place with your comments.
your welcome :-) @@LivingroomGearDemos
*you're
yes @@LivingroomGearDemos
Livingroom Gear Demos *compliment
Just called my bass player, I explained the whole thing and fired him... He's pretty pissed at you, watch out!
let me pull out my baritone bass
Leo Morales holy shit i want that
Satan yea, they use those alot in metal, search it up, you will be *AMAZED*
Bass players and batytone players don't overlap...
Not the same range, musical scope, not the same tone, not the the same function in a band, not the same playing...
Kidding apart, you do'nt have to fire your bass player, anyway. Not for that reason.
Totally agree! I've been playing baritone for a couple years now and strongly encourage every guitar player to get one. Great for stoner rock, metal and sits perfectly between regular guitar and bass!
This "sitting" is the discussion I want to have. Been totally interested in a Baritone for a while but always worry about how this would work. Do you feel you compose (alto?) guitar parts differently because you have baritone? I feel like the overlap is so huge.
Saam I don’t really write the songs differently because of it. It all depends on the style and the key of the song I’m writing.
I use it about 50% of the time in my stoner band. There’s another guitarist playing standard guitar, so that range is also covered. I have an alternative rock band with my brother and there I just use it sometimes to add some balls to certain parts. It’s all about trying things out and seeing if it works for the song.
The tuning needs a bit of getting used to, but you quickly get the hang of it!
Danelectro. Please. For the love of God, if you are seeing this, release a baritone in a reflective copper finish WITH a bigsby. You’re welcome.
I don't think a bigsby would go very well because of the increased tension of a baritone. But hey, give it a shot. Let me know if it works or not 😊
@@JubbyDubbis I made a baritone with a Duesenberg Les Trem and it worked really really well (I messed around with it and managed to screw up the tension or anti tension but set up right it worked great - I got someone to pull back on the bit holding the strings while I tightened the bolt to set the resistance right)
@@ericlayton8888 I mean hey, whatever works 🤣🤣
I’m starting up a new wave / post punk revival project and this guitar might be just what the doctor ordered! It has a unique and quirky sound that I find absolutely enticing. Fantastic video!
Just bought a baritone from a local luthier a couple of months ago. I love it.
I own a Dano doubleneck 6/12. The 6 string side is setup as baritone. Fun galore!!
HOLD THE PHONE: get a baritone with a long enough neck "scale length" to accommodate your tuning. I play drop g on a 28" baritone, and the intonation is solid, its amazing to be intune up the whole neck. 27" will" intonate to A, and 27.75" will intonate Ab. Remember, its a solid sound, and boy do you hear it. Using a 7 string will get you there partially. But doesn't have the dense saturated tonal abilities the baritone has naturally. A standard 25.5" scale 7 string will only intonate to A tops in my experience. Now if you want all the range, get a 7 string mutiscale 28"- 26.5" , and youll be able to do drop F#, and keep that high E string. Thats my dream guitar. Ps: everyone needs a subcontra bass guitar. :)
I am the proud owner of a Yamaha AES520 Drop 6 (baritone guitar) and I can say that baritones are very inspiring guitars and fun to play too. One can also approach a baritone guitar as a 7 string guitar without the high E string.
B-B is two and a half, not three and a half steps down. Also if you use thick enough strings it won't get floppy, I use 13-62 in a Les Paul and it's just perfect.
i love baritones, but it is pretty sad that there are only very few to choose if want a somewhat affordable instrument.
this one isn't too expensive?
Chapman ml1 Baritone is 450-500 new. Love mine. Just got one
Welcome to the world of niche instruments
ESP LTD Viper 201B it's great and like 350 new I got mine for 290
@@norlanderduwallis9074 omg yes i have the same one it sounds amazing
"Fire the bass"
Fucking heresy
Lol I couldn't stop laughing at the spagetti western one, I want to get a baritone now!!!
😉🍝
The bassist one had me literally laughing out loud alone in my house
... Spaghetti western.. Yes!
Good job on the skit for it, the effort you put in for the western is much appreciated :D
Sergio Linguini
Why?
Couldn’t agree more! I have a bari and love it. I don’t know why more guitarists don’t own one.
Don't fire the bass player. Give him heavier strings and tune him to B0. >:)
Harry Van Twistern or a 5 string 🤘🏻
WHY I CANNOT GIVE THUMBS UP MORE THAN ONCE????
I’ve been debating between a Bass VI or a baritone.
You just sold me on a baritone.
Man! A Bass VI will give you the most haters if you cannot play at least like gedy lee, because he plays with a freaking 4.... and they look bad. Get a Baritone! :-)
I started out as a bass player, so I may not be so bad lol
Ruben Colombe for sure you are good. I think you could do more with the baritone!
You can string a bass vi with baritone strings, tuned A to A though
You can string a danelectro with bass strings and have a v6
I was with you until you fired the bass player. Then I got an 8 string and fired the guitar player.
4:04 best failed attempt at winking 2018
Hahaha 100% correct!
Yeah. I’m sold on this. Gonna pick one up.
Also, if you have trash can lids for hands. 27" scale length makes lead play on the upper frets possible.
I've been thinking about whether I should get a baritone for a while and this video convinced me :-)
Awesome! Go for it!
That bass player had pink pants on. He would not been in my band at all, to get fired.
So what makes the baritone guitar? Is it the strings? You said that if you try to tune a standard guitar to match a baritone's tuning the strings will be floppy, but couldn't you just buy tighter strings to put on a standard guitar?
Man, that guitar begs to have some Qotsa be played on it! I loved the heavy dirty speedy riffs a bit before the middle of the video!
I have such a big concern: is it not very muddy????
Baritones are so good ! But I always have problems with their low frequencies messing with my bass parts ... :'-(
Then fire the bass player ;)
maybe use less bass on the Mix/band practice etc.. Use a Eq pedal to cut out some of the Low end before hitting the amp
get a 5 string bass
I use a regular scale 6 string in B standard but I just use 12-54 gauge strings and it works great. I'd still love to get a baritone though but I have an 8 string as well for really low tunings.
Your score for video was very Twin Peaks-esque. I dig it! Long live the baritone.
Thank you kindly!
The29.5 " scale isn't too hard if you play power chords ?
I have a big hesitation between this one and the 27" of the Eastwood ... hmmm... what do you think ?!
This one sounds soooo cool too
I just bought my first baritone guitar. Happened to see a schecter baritone on Ebay at a steal of a price. Had to get it.
I'll admit it'll be a bit alien to me for awhile. Even more excited after watching this.
I've been looking into getting a baritone for quite some time. I love my 7 string, but I'd love to try a something new like a baritone guitar. I've also been looking to play a 6 string in Ab tuning. Would that tuning work well for a baritone guitar...or should I just stay with my ugly 7 string, lol?
Well done pieces in many different genres. All of them sound authentic to me, and well played!
OK, stupid question alert, so do you play a baritone exactly the same as a regular guitar, chords fingered the same in the same place etc?
Yes, it’s just a lower tuning without the strings getting all slinky and gross
Where is the Danelectro made, do they still sell them?
Korea. And yes, they still sell it.
@@danielleinad6019 Korea? Bummer.
I play a six string with the low strings from a 7 string with the G string being tuned a half step. So tuned B E A D F# B so so the open chords still work
I cheat on my recording and use it as a bass
really cool to see and hear the Dano 66 in action, in baritone
Well done!
Cheers!
You forgot the best part. You and a 5-string bassist can do a slight downtune to B flat and have a 3 octave sync with a tenor sax
Hey, man! Lovin the new filmmaking approach of the channel. Keep it up! Congrats!!
Thanks Rafael!
Would love to own one (especially a Danelectro!!!) But it's hard justifying getting one since I own a Whammy DT that can with ease turn any guitar in a baritone :/
Hey what plugin are you using to model the amp? It sounds stellar.
I want a baritone 7-strings guitar to play with a looper and a sequencer/sampler/beatbox laying down bass lines and funk-like guitar lines xD
Am I weird?
🤯
Can you name chain you used for metal demo? That chug is so organic!
I was a combo of Mercurial ReAxis and Bias 2!
alright I’m convinced
Great video - both the humour and review were on point! Cheers!
Thanks! :)
I don't need one, but a great video nevertheless.
Very cool video man! Thanks! Now I know what is a baritone guitar. Sweet!
Does a baritone guitar work using standard E to E tuning?
It could be E to E if you tune it one step down, but it would be a whole octave down from the E standard.
And your bass player would try to kill you.
i recently fired the guitarist after getting my black 7string bass. i yelled "BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK NUMBER ONE" while he was leaving the room :D
But you can just down tune a standard guitar to baritone or to a drop A for example so what is the actual difference other than neck size?
Personal Problems on any typical guitar if you start dropping tunings past d standard the strings get hella floppy and don't sound proper
McKoy Lockridge But isn't that the point of getting heavier strings? Just trying to know a little more
Personal Problems well sure you could but most guitars aren't meant to have that kind of tension of the necks, henceforth why a baritone neck is thicker and wider to accommodate the tension. I'm pretty sure if you put heavy gauge on any regular guitar you'll snap the bridge/ saddle before you get anywhere.
McKoy Lockridge Fair enough, I usually use 11's and tune to Drop C# but I change my strings quite regularly to keep them fresh
Does it make sense to play a baritone in standard/dropD/dropC tuning?
No
The bit you play at 1:55, would that be tuned A - A ?
Or are you employing an alt tuning?
lust4kix looks like Drop A. Think Drop D tuning but everything’s tuned down an extra 2.5 steps
What if you just use a thicker guage string on a normal guitar and tune down?
that's absolutely possible :)
What about a 12 string guitar.
Does Josh Homme use Baritones for his Drop-C stuff?
Nope. Regular guitar in standard C.
Livingroom Gear Demos
Heavy gauge strings, no doubt, and a few mods to the guitar
I dig the preview for the score you made. It sounds very grizzly bear-like
thanks!
which guitar ?
Which one?
did you return the guitar?
nope
Very good!
This video is amazing
Thanks!!
I can I can just tune my standard scale length guitar to B, but I think I'll just invest in a proper baritone anyway
i want one but not now, i have only one electric guitar (Sx Stratocaster) , it's good but not awesome, doesn't really inspire me, can you guys recommend me a second guitar to buy? i want to sell my strat and get a better guitar
Don't let anyone BS you with the "get what you pay for" schtick,- 2019, you're paying dearly either for woods that matter little, or a brand name.Squier and Epiphone are putting out plenty that rivals their parent counterparts,- China, Indonesia, Mexico,- all good now.Be a musician instead of a fashion victim, and you'll be able to get a decent baritone as well.Were you having specific issues with the SX? Most I've seen and heard were pretty nice; they have a good rep among those who know what matters-
If I buy a baritone guitar it’s because I want to play Amon Amarth and Staind. Maybe Breaking Benjamin, but I have a guitar that I tune down to C standard drop A#.
just buy some 13 gauge strings and tune it down to B standard and drop A. you can even get down drop G if u dont have heavy fingers
Supernova 70 thanks, but it’s actually not good for your guitar to keep tuning it up and down. It’s best to just choose a tuning and leave it there.
Killer sounds, dude! And which pedal you used for melody in right channel, when the movie scene appeared (2:42 - 3:07)?
Anyone recommend a good baritone that's not a danelectro?
Sick down picking man!
thaaanks!
that kickflip was bolts
It’s always nice to find quality youtubers that aren’t just spewing bs, awsome vid dude, subbed fer sher...
Question, what would you suggest when looking for a baritone? I’m totally lost on brands or pickups or gear or whatever for this relatively niche instrument
If you get a chance to try one, be aware of its scale length & suggested standard tuning. This will be the main selling point... the extra string tension/length on strings gives them a tone that literally sounds like thicker strings tuned tighter. Very cool sound if that's what you end up preferring instead of going as low as possible. See how it feels!
Is that the tone of the guitar?
1:52 That editing didn't convince me, neither did the low rumble in the background. Is this really this guitar you used to track this?
Hey, it's for sure the guitar! One track on the right side, and one on the left with different amp plugins. Part of the video is in slow motion though, maybe that sets you off?
Cool, well done then! Great sounds, especially that soundtrack has a particular vibe that pairs well with the footage.
I'm sold!
Can you tune up to C#? I’ve seen that Staind has done, but they’re the same band who has a song in
G#
C#
G#
C#
F
A#
Dude how'd you practice those 16th note downstrokes?
Start slow I guess.
dammit i just bought a danelectro innuendo thinking it was the baritone model but its just a normal guitar :'(
😔
Im thinking on getting one. but I play mostly D and C standart, and i'm most confortable with 10 or 9 gauge strings. Is it posible on a baritone to play on those tunnings with those strings and not get super super thight strings?
C standard would be possible I think, but D might be difficult.
I play mostly Mastodon. And I know Bill Keliher uses like 60's on his guitars but i would like to avoid that. I've been playing on a normal guitar with 10 but on D its just to floopy. Maybe with 9's it would be the perfect tension for a baritone on D but I would have to try it out first. Thank you anyways for the reply!
this is all stuff u can do with a regular guitar just buy some 13 gauge strings and tune it to b standard. i do this and it sounds the same
that's a sweet shirt man!!!
thanks!
You are adoreble
Haha
I love baritone guitars. And I really like your video. But I disagree with the fact that 7 strings are ugly. Loads of cool designs out there!
7 strings are ugly?!?! I beg to differ my friend.
Danny Kross 9 are ugly, 7's are botiful bob and vagene
There are a lot of 7, 8 and 9s that are really ugly, but it depends. Schecter makes some pretty extended range guitars, but basically anything looks nicer than an Ibanez.
I'd hate to hear what he thinks of me having a 10-string in my arsenal.
Furthermore, the point of getting a 7 (or more) strings guitar is for their extended range. A standard baritone only shifts the range of the instrument, even if they have other qualities.
I don't give a two sh#ts about the looks
But the sound 🎸
I want one of these to set up as a bass vi
this thing is just screaming to play some joy division riffs
WAIT... is that NR firebird yours?!?!?
searching your videos, I fkng love that guitar
NR Firebird?
haha, in your intro at 0:19
I eventually found another vid where your play it!
gorgeous guitar, ever since Sonic Youth 'bull in the heather'
Que Dableyou It's a Fano PX6!
*hides under keyboard*
Super Groovy!
🤟🏻
You're Norwegian! I recognized the word Takk on the documentary part hahah. My cousin is half-norweigian that's why I knew.xD
Hahah what a great video, u worked very hard! I love danelectro! I want at least 3 including a bari lol, idk y but when i think of "alternate" guitars i always think of danelectro
Thanks dude!
dude what i that documentary about? Looks amazing!
It's about young people trying to get into the job marked. Thanks!
The spaghetti in a can was pretty great 😁
But Does it Djent?
yes
Danelectros are really cool
They are!
Subbed ya!!!! Hoping some great content like this 🤘🤘🤘
Thanks!!
I was blleding from the eyes when I saw the canned spaghetti (solo gli Italiani capiranno).
reason no. 5: The bassist can just put a 5set on his 4 string bass and use that last string to choke anyone who says, or even thinks, that a lower tuned guitar doesn't need bass :D
Or alternatively, the bassist could get a baritone, tune it down a bit and sack the guitarist.
A literal spaghetti western!🤠
🍝
7-strings are just baritones with a high E string change my mind
The F# on the baritone is tuned up to G on a 7 string.
Veton Ademaj yes, then they add a high E string
woah there those are nice quality stuff dude , congrats !!11!1@
You forgot one...to play the brutals!
And djent, doom and sludge...
Eirik, you gotta give us the name of that documentary you did the soundtrack for.
Døråpnerne. It's on Vimeo, but it's all in Norwegian though.
Thank you!
Nah, just get a Bass VI, then all the same string tuning but an octave lower EADGBE. You don't have to transpose to a different key, and you can hit the bass frequencies of the bass player you just sacked.
The local GC can't unload those once pricey 7's to save their lives- zero selling points.On the other hand, lucky if there's a single baritone in store.The take away? Lots of people had the same bad idea; want to drop tune? Dan Electro have been making these from the start.
you arent supposed to be eating spaghetti from a can, you're supposed to be eating b e a n s
it's a reference to spaghetti westerns