Surprisingly... I don't really disagree that Eagle is a tank specialist. Anyone who's been on the receiving end of a good Eagle player's Lightning Strike in AWBW should understand that his reach in an offensive push is unmatched.
*EXTRA MOVE?* *Y E S* Green Earth's Mechs: Panzerfausts goes woosh woosh. There's a minor graphic bug with Green Earth's battle copters firing on infantry where the machine guns don't move. I do agree with someone else in the comment section. Make Eagle more smuggier.
And yet nobody questions how there's a rocket surrounded by pipes, like nobody questions why there are sometimes Battleships in lakes (except in the rom hack Andy's Adventure)?
The headcanon for me is that the forest used to be a city, which got destroyed by BH during invasion. then when those pipes are built, that city was a mess so pipes were built around it. it appears as forest due game limitation, and the survivors managed to squeeze out a rocket unit hoping to aid their eventual rescuers.
Maybe Rocket chan was already there when Black Hole came. Crew members were taking a break in a forest, and they didn’t realize Black Hole installed those giant air-unit-blocking pipes. Of course Black Hole giant pipe technicians didn’t check the forest because they get paid for installing giant pipes, not for checking/clearing forests, that’s the reason they installed the pipe that way :)
Waaaa i didn't knew about this factory on the bottom right, i always tried to send some units from there. This " mech dance " is probably the best strat i've ever seen =D
This is the one mission where Hawk is genuinely as competent and calculating as the game wants to portray him as. Also there is that one early mission against Andy I guess
But the biggest question is... How did that rocket get stuck inside the forest in the pipes?! Unless there's some path inside the pipe that's only accessed story-wise.
I only managed to beat this map with Eagle. That extra turn from his CO super power is so crucial, if you want to cap the base imo. Edit: Good to see I'm not the only one.
Crackhead theory about why the pipelines are not traversable: they give off strong EM waves that interfere with sensitive equipment that flying vehicles require, dumbfire round are fine, but even the Black Bomb is too sophisticated to be able to traverse it.
this is the only map in the hard campaign where the difficulty is actually winning as opposed to getting a good rank, It feels like it would be a pretty average difficulty mission if the time limit was 10 days, but the large amount of choke points and 9 day limit has led to me losing with a unit or two at 1-3 hp way to many times.
poor Drake. He has to babysit those two. This mission is much more diffucult blind or using the other two COs. With Eagle however. it's much easier. the extra power on the battle copters and lightning strike really help.
I had to reset maybe eight times to complete this mission. I eventually won by destroying the pipe seam with a bomber then delivering infantry to the lab with a transport copter. Then I realized that I managed to destroy every unit except a single Mech on the turn I was about to cap the lab. I'm glad I'm not just stupid and this mission is actually as hard as I thought it was.
huh, somehow beat the game without seeing this mission myself, so this was an extra dope episode. thanks for all the Advance Wars content, I live for that stuff lol.
Man, this mission is so fkn hard! I tried for hours until I got with the solution. I'd say it's the hardest in hard campaign. Sadly I don't remember very well how I managed to win with Jess, it was more than 10 years ago. I really appreciate you are doing the HC again, it brings me a lot of memories playing AW2 back then :)
Yeah I've come to find that eagle and Andy don't really have a rivalry it feels more forced but Jess and Eagle have a legitimate rivalry kind of reminds me of Sasuke and Naruto
I always been bothered by Eagle's super power, and I would like Mang's input. If Eagle is an air specialist, why does his superpower affect ground units? Wouldn't it make sense for it to just affect air units? That's like Jess being a ground specialist gives her air units +1/+2 movements as well. Now I know this would nerf by a lot but would it be more balanced?
It is a sort of global power, his trashy naval units also gets their turn recovered. But his day2day power still only benefits his air units (and both his Powers only increase the offense of his Air units, so, he remains being a specialist in every moment).
Hindsight, Mangs didn't "need" to do this mission at this time. The other 2 starting missions in Green Earth don't require neotanks in the slightest. But since he did this in the first try, it was worth it!
for me this is prob the hardest mission in advanc wars 2 the worst part is you start capture the lab and he drops his power and you need a day more to capture AND you failed
I have found that Jess can be just as good if not better than Eagle on this map. Eagle seems like the logical choice given the time restraints but you have to be very technical and meticulous with him. Jess you can spam her little power and go blow to blow against Hawke. Also, I think there are 3 variations of this map depending on your CO. With Jess you get a land army, Eagle the Battle Copters, and Drake some ships. I could be wrong.
I love how the AI just cheats and fires at units outside of their vision range, like both the last rocket and artillery shot at units that their 1 vision wouldn't have been able to see combined, lol.
@@claudioalejandro9731 now I want Senator Armstrong to be the Next Black Hole CO. Daily: +20% defense CO power: College Ball +50% Defense, CO Super power: NANO MACHINES SON: + 100% Defense
But, following the logic that the pipes are too big for air units to cross, missiles and rockets shouldn't reach other units. It would be an interesting mechanic that you cannot shoot over the pipe.
Hmm nice. What i do in this mission is that i make 1 recon on the bottom, when he comes with the indirect i destroy it with both the mech and recon, both being in the woods will make so he cant see them, he them will continue going foward. Then i make a tank and hide it as well, if any of his units enter into repair mode to flee i pick them out with the tank. Also the tank helps deal with his 2nd rocket.
Eagle is better against the AI than against other players. Against other players, by the time you get to his best feature, his superpower, you have often already lost, or at the very least lost all momentum and are on the back foot. Against the AI, and with the small number of predeployed units you often get, you can reach your superpower before you lose momentum, and can use its incredible power to push right through the enemy army.
Dream AW Game relevant buff Notes: Eagle: He would get back his +10% defense buff and his Carriers and Crusiers would have neutral firepower. Everything else about him would stay the same as he was in Dual Strike. Hawke would have had some changes, but I ended up cutting them. However Javier would get a nerf: Com Towers would only give him 5% defense each.
@@xelius2683 then how do you propose I make Black Wave not overpriced for what it does then? That is without altering the power meter as that's something I'm not the most keen on doing.
@@AceAviations2 Black wave is overpriced because that's his drawback for having a free +10% attack on all units. Hawke is a pretty balanced character the way he is now so i don't see a need to change him.
Did he just say drakes dilemma is a fun mission… how!?!? Edit: also small note when mangs was explaining eagle he said he had the most expensive cost of super co power in the game that is false there is one co with 10 stars
hey,it wouldn't be interesting to play campaign,but with AI and player swapped? I mean for example playing as black hole COs in aw 2 campaign. It's hackable or something?
@@vodkawhisperer3923 In what aspect? In Andy´s Adventure you just play with Andy and some Black Hole COs, against the owners of the respective countries, is not like you are playing with the bad guys trying to conquer the land, far I remember they are actually trying to escape xd.
@@gicrueldad9520 you get to play as the black hole cos in the campaign in adnys adventure, you cant do that in the original game. you kinda answered your own question
@@vodkawhisperer3923 This person basically wanted to know if you could switch sides and play as the AI in the campaign. Andy's Adventure doesn't do that at all, it's the same campaign, but with different story, maps, playable characters, and foes. It's not you playing as "Flak and that 1 mission with Lash trying to conquer Orange Star", is a new stort that goes with Andy being stupid and rescuing Black Hole COs not knowing who they are and what they did xd (and Orange Star group wanting to get rid of Andy).
@@gicrueldad9520 if the ai and player swapped the campaign would be very easy. Im gonna assume he meant the commanders swap instead of ai, would make more sense. And in andys adventure you do conquer the 4 countries.
Hawke can since he has +10% firepower, but most other CO's can't, at least not with B-copters. B-copters deal 95% damage to transports, so it's a 50/50 coin flip that decides if they destroy them with the first attack. Eagle's T-copters have 10% more defense, so they never get shot down by B-copters in a single turn.
I have a question mangs? Would you play the hard campaign of dual strike? Love your videos about advance wars, pd:I haved an idea for de Co showdown that you made but because I don't know how to draw (and maybe also the time) I couldn't swowed sadly... O well, keep this good content man.
It's very old, but he already made a Dual Strike hard campaign let's play. DS is his least favorite AW game I think so he's probably not gonna play it again.
@@Posby95 oh OK, it's understandable of course, it's is his channel after all, it's just in my case dual strike is the first advance wars that I have play and i never have been able to play the 2 games, so I have nostalgia and love to the 3 game, and I am very excited for the remakes.
Eagle calls Jess "Red" because she has red hair but you're colorblind.
Also too, and I'm actually not sure about this, but calling someone with red hair "Red" might not be common outside of English-speaking countries.
@@ScrambledAndBenedict It´s definitely not common, I´m telling you xd.
She does???
@@Mangs1337 Yes, she does, although, is nothing confirmed, but if Eagle doesn´t call her Red because her hair is red, I don´t know why he does then.
@@ScrambledAndBenedict it's like refering to someone as blondie, too.
Eagle: as a cruiser you are... replaceable, farewell!
this does not boat well
@@Hone_mor2525 Whoa, what a sinking situation!
It's certainly sub-par
@@DimitryViktorovich привет, Дим
@@byronvonedmund Да, привет :-)
Eagle to his cruiser crew:
"Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"
That's basically every AW CO and player lol. We're all sociopaths.
"Some of you may die"
I think you mean ALL of them will die
@@theoutlander1411 Psychopaths
Surprisingly... I don't really disagree that Eagle is a tank specialist. Anyone who's been on the receiving end of a good Eagle player's Lightning Strike in AWBW should understand that his reach in an offensive push is unmatched.
Eagle: "Can anyone explain why AIR UNITS cannot fly over this giant pipeline on the ground?"
Drake: "Fuel budgets?"
There isn't a landing spot. You can land on a mountain if there's a big enough space.
Wars World canonically exists as a 2D realm
@@assault410 The reboot...
@@jaxpot7775 shhhhh
Its just a very big pipe.
*EXTRA MOVE?*
*Y E S*
Green Earth's Mechs: Panzerfausts goes woosh woosh.
There's a minor graphic bug with Green Earth's battle copters firing on infantry where the machine guns don't move.
I do agree with someone else in the comment section. Make Eagle more smuggier.
Mangs: I don't understand why he calls her red.
Me: BECAUSE OF HER HAAAAAAIIIIRRR!!!!
Wasn't Mangs colorblind? :-P
Guus van Voorst I didn't actually know that. Huh!
Red is a nickname that all gingers (aka red heads) have automatically.
"I don't understand why Eagle calls her Red."
*Jess stands there with bright red hair.*
Huh, really? Jess has red hair? I learned something new. (No, not sarcasm, I can't see red.)
@@VanillaVictini can you see any color or dp you see in black and white like old TV shows?
Mangs is colorblind. Literally. Not a "lol he's so dumb" kind of thing.
@@Syngrafer if mangs is really colorblind then why is he racist?
@@WetBoy what?
Rocket-chan spent the rest of the war gathering resources in the lone forest tile and lived a quiet life surrounded by impenetrable metal.
And yet nobody questions how there's a rocket surrounded by pipes, like nobody questions why there are sometimes Battleships in lakes (except in the rom hack Andy's Adventure)?
The headcanon for me is that the forest used to be a city, which got destroyed by BH during invasion. then when those pipes are built, that city was a mess so pipes were built around it. it appears as forest due game limitation, and the survivors managed to squeeze out a rocket unit hoping to aid their eventual rescuers.
XD
Maybe Rocket chan was already there when Black Hole came. Crew members were taking a break in a forest, and they didn’t realize Black Hole installed those giant air-unit-blocking pipes. Of course Black Hole giant pipe technicians didn’t check the forest because they get paid for installing giant pipes, not for checking/clearing forests, that’s the reason they installed the pipe that way :)
Waaaa i didn't knew about this factory on the bottom right, i always tried to send some units from there. This " mech dance " is probably the best strat i've ever seen =D
This is the one mission where Hawk is genuinely as competent and calculating as the game wants to portray him as.
Also there is that one early mission against Andy I guess
Air units: can i fly over these pipes?
Piperuner: NO ONLY ME
Wonderful grammer
@@windmage0168 Wonderful spelling.
@@Toast_94 Thanks, I did it on purpus
@@windmage0168 no you didnt
@@vodkawhisperer3923 shur, wutever you say
Eagle is such a condescending character in this game.
I hope in reboot camp they amp up on his smugness.
Tbh he was toned down his smugness in two, probably to make him easier to like as he is an ally now.
But the biggest question is... How did that rocket get stuck inside the forest in the pipes?! Unless there's some path inside the pipe that's only accessed story-wise.
I only managed to beat this map with Eagle.
That extra turn from his CO super power is so crucial, if you want to cap the base imo.
Edit: Good to see I'm not the only one.
Was barely able to beat it with Jess. I don't know how, but it was the last day
Me too, lightning strike FTW haha! =D
@@KalokesMysteries same
Took me a hell lot of time but I did manage to clear this mission with Jess
It's so weird they developed the same tank four times in four different locations
Probably had plans for the neotank as a precursor to future tech that was sent over from main research lab.
lol
It needs a lab to be made, after all in the web.
In the remake this one enemy infantry is passive. The little guy sits on the mountain next to the lab which is super annoying.
This mission is tough!
Especially if you pick someone other than Eagle. But after I did manage to clear it with Jess and am very proud of it.
For that you have my respect.
I NEVER beat this map with anyone but Eagle.
Tried the other two a couple of times, but I never win with them.
Same, Jess is a good choice too. Drake though would be a challenge
Crackhead theory about why the pipelines are not traversable: they give off strong EM waves that interfere with sensitive equipment that flying vehicles require, dumbfire round are fine, but even the Black Bomb is too sophisticated to be able to traverse it.
this is the only map in the hard campaign where the difficulty is actually winning as opposed to getting a good rank, It feels like it would be a pretty average difficulty mission if the time limit was 10 days, but the large amount of choke points and 9 day limit has led to me losing with a unit or two at 1-3 hp way to many times.
poor Drake. He has to babysit those two.
This mission is much more diffucult blind or using the other two COs. With Eagle however. it's much easier. the extra power on the battle copters and lightning strike really help.
I had to reset maybe eight times to complete this mission. I eventually won by destroying the pipe seam with a bomber then delivering infantry to the lab with a transport copter. Then I realized that I managed to destroy every unit except a single Mech on the turn I was about to cap the lab. I'm glad I'm not just stupid and this mission is actually as hard as I thought it was.
Battle of the Birds.
They even have the same amount of total COP stars
Eagle calls Jess 'Red' because she's a redhead.
They can hire mangs for voicing all characters in reboot and i wouldnt complain
Mangs: I'm not sure if I can do this on my first try.
Looks at video length
huh, somehow beat the game without seeing this mission myself, so this was an extra dope episode. thanks for all the Advance Wars content, I live for that stuff lol.
Did anyone wonder what's inside the pipe that supplies the factory?
I think its a railroad inside hahahaha.
Man, this mission is so fkn hard! I tried for hours until I got with the solution. I'd say it's the hardest in hard campaign. Sadly I don't remember very well how I managed to win with Jess, it was more than 10 years ago.
I really appreciate you are doing the HC again, it brings me a lot of memories playing AW2 back then :)
Just 1 question: how the heck did Green Earth get that rocket trapped inside that tiny forest surrounded by the pipes?!
Lander duh
I remember this mission when i was a kid. I wish there were more like this
Yeah I've come to find that eagle and Andy don't really have a rivalry it feels more forced but Jess and Eagle have a legitimate rivalry kind of reminds me of Sasuke and Naruto
I never realized this before but Hawk’s face looks like a recolor of NPC Wojak
12:48
The AI used the Anti -Air to take out your low HP Mech at 11:48
Rip that Mech - didn't even notice it was dead
It's vindicating when Mangs does the same strategy as I do for a mission :)
grats on the first try, man, this mission had me broken and battered back then
I always been bothered by Eagle's super power, and I would like Mang's input.
If Eagle is an air specialist, why does his superpower affect ground units? Wouldn't it make sense for it to just affect air units? That's like Jess being a ground specialist gives her air units +1/+2 movements as well. Now I know this would nerf by a lot but would it be more balanced?
Eagle: At last, a chance to demonstrate my specialty
Apparently he was secretly a vehicle specialist this whole time
@@PALWolfOS well I guess he just needs a rewording in his bio.
It is a sort of global power, his trashy naval units also gets their turn recovered.
But his day2day power still only benefits his air units (and both his Powers only increase the offense of his Air units, so, he remains being a specialist in every moment).
Hindsight, Mangs didn't "need" to do this mission at this time. The other 2 starting missions in Green Earth don't require neotanks in the slightest. But since he did this in the first try, it was worth it!
no one's asking the real question of how that rocket got wedged in the pipes
for me this is prob the hardest mission in advanc wars 2
the worst part is you start capture the lab and he drops his power and you need a day more to capture AND you failed
I have found that Jess can be just as good if not better than Eagle on this map. Eagle seems like the logical choice given the time restraints but you have to be very technical and meticulous with him. Jess you can spam her little power and go blow to blow against Hawke. Also, I think there are 3 variations of this map depending on your CO. With Jess you get a land army, Eagle the Battle Copters, and Drake some ships. I could be wrong.
which came first: the rocket, or the pipeline?
Advance wars: the rocket.
Real life... Probably the pipe line.
Yes
Godamn, you sure make these missions look easy Mangs
12:55 He used it to finish the 2 hp mech xD
he calls her red because of her hair.
I love how the AI just cheats and fires at units outside of their vision range, like both the last rocket and artillery shot at units that their 1 vision wouldn't have been able to see combined, lol.
Hawke: Nanomachines, son
@@claudioalejandro9731 now I want Senator Armstrong to be the Next Black Hole CO.
Daily: +20% defense
CO power: College Ball +50% Defense,
CO Super power: NANO MACHINES SON: + 100% Defense
@@ComradeCommissar17 *y e s*
You certainly made this one look no harder than the standard campaign version lol
But, following the logic that the pipes are too big for air units to cross, missiles and rockets shouldn't reach other units. It would be an interesting mechanic that you cannot shoot over the pipe.
The antiair around 12:50 or smth didn't freeze up, it attacked your mech instead -- idiot AI XD
And I guess Eagle calls Jess red cuz of her hair
I always lose with my infantry mid capture. This mission took several tries before I randomly won by route
Not sure he can do it first time.
I check video length.
Yep, Mangs will be fine 😊.
13:00 he did use his AA. he attacked the mech
At 13 the antiair attacked your mech, it didnt freeze
Everyone, going for lab capture is much easier than route. FYI.
Hmm nice.
What i do in this mission is that i make 1 recon on the bottom, when he comes with the indirect i destroy it with both the mech and recon, both being in the woods will make so he cant see them, he them will continue going foward.
Then i make a tank and hide it as well, if any of his units enter into repair mode to flee i pick them out with the tank.
Also the tank helps deal with his 2nd rocket.
12:53 that anti air shot the mech that the tank couldn't kill but yes the ai does freeze at times for some reason
@Mangs Challange - Beat this map with Drake.
Mangs : Only one CO shines here
Me : Jess?
Mangs : Its Eagle
Me Remembering of Mangs putting Eagle on C Tier:
*Insert Surprised Pikachu here*
tier lists are for 1v1, not campaign bruh
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 i know that, but still shocking XD
Eagle is better against the AI than against other players.
Against other players, by the time you get to his best feature, his superpower, you have often already lost, or at the very least lost all momentum and are on the back foot. Against the AI, and with the small number of predeployed units you often get, you can reach your superpower before you lose momentum, and can use its incredible power to push right through the enemy army.
Man I never even beat this mission on Normal
I definetly have no clue why Eagle calls Jess Red
21:15 GINGERS HAVE SOULS
Awesome!!
21:18 Who's gonna tell him?
I don’t have the rockets/missiles in the middle pipe in my version of this map, and cannot beat it
Not first... but still
Comment.
but is it one of Mangs' Favorite Maps?
Dream AW Game relevant buff Notes:
Eagle: He would get back his +10% defense buff and his Carriers and Crusiers would have neutral firepower.
Everything else about him would stay the same as he was in Dual Strike.
Hawke would have had some changes, but I ended up cutting them.
However Javier would get a nerf: Com Towers would only give him 5% defense each.
Bruh 2 global dmg for 5 stars is bullshit
Awful idea. In the campaign he gets his power every 3-4 days, and i know because i played it recently
@@xelius2683 then how do you propose I make Black Wave not overpriced for what it does then? That is without altering the power meter as that's something I'm not the most keen on doing.
@@AceAviations2 Black wave is overpriced because that's his drawback for having a free +10% attack on all units. Hawke is a pretty balanced character the way he is now so i don't see a need to change him.
@@xelius2683 I've never thought of it that way, you made a very good point there. But is a 3HP Black Storm too good or not?
Did he just say drakes dilemma is a fun mission… how!?!?
Edit: also small note when mangs was explaining eagle he said he had the most expensive cost of super co power in the game that is false there is one co with 10 stars
Also want to know why Eagle calls Jess "Red". I don't get it either.
Prop because of her bright red hair?
We get it you see in tv static
Red because of red hair
Mangs is colorblind so he didn't know her hair was red.
@@federicopalacios7439 oh now I feel bad
2:45
Is Eagle the only one whose Power from the original game became his Super Power here?
Think we will get an "advanced wars 3" if the remake sells well?
Someone made a romhack thats basically aw3
You forget about Dual Strike?
Speed is key
Green Earth's infantry reminds me of Al Qaeda
Eggs can’t see red
I think green earth has the best looking units
Not to be a grammar nazi but I think the title is supposed to be pronounced Danger times nine
Cuz she’s a red-head?
hey,it wouldn't be interesting to play campaign,but with AI and player swapped? I mean for example playing as black hole COs in aw 2 campaign. It's hackable or something?
It would be easy and boring, but andys adventure is a romhack that implements this well
@@vodkawhisperer3923 In what aspect? In Andy´s Adventure you just play with Andy and some Black Hole COs, against the owners of the respective countries, is not like you are playing with the bad guys trying to conquer the land, far I remember they are actually trying to escape xd.
@@gicrueldad9520 you get to play as the black hole cos in the campaign in adnys adventure, you cant do that in the original game. you kinda answered your own question
@@vodkawhisperer3923 This person basically wanted to know if you could switch sides and play as the AI in the campaign.
Andy's Adventure doesn't do that at all, it's the same campaign, but with different story, maps, playable characters, and foes. It's not you playing as "Flak and that 1 mission with Lash trying to conquer Orange Star", is a new stort that goes with Andy being stupid and rescuing Black Hole COs not knowing who they are and what they did xd (and Orange Star group wanting to get rid of Andy).
@@gicrueldad9520 if the ai and player swapped the campaign would be very easy. Im gonna assume he meant the commanders swap instead of ai, would make more sense. And in andys adventure you do conquer the 4 countries.
You can't shoot down Eagle's Transport Copters in a single turn?
Hawke can since he has +10% firepower, but most other CO's can't, at least not with B-copters. B-copters deal 95% damage to transports, so it's a 50/50 coin flip that decides if they destroy them with the first attack. Eagle's T-copters have 10% more defense, so they never get shot down by B-copters in a single turn.
7:46
36% damage and it took off 5 HP--
I miss when you did character voices.
Show us how to beat this with Jess.
I have a question mangs? Would you play the hard campaign of dual strike? Love your videos about advance wars,
pd:I haved an idea for de Co showdown that you made but because I don't know how to draw (and maybe also the time) I couldn't swowed sadly... O well, keep this good content man.
It's very old, but he already made a Dual Strike hard campaign let's play. DS is his least favorite AW game I think so he's probably not gonna play it again.
@@Posby95 oh OK, it's understandable of course, it's is his channel after all, it's just in my case dual strike is the first advance wars that I have play and i never have been able to play the 2 games, so I have nostalgia and love to the 3 game, and I am very excited for the remakes.
This mission irritates me beyond belief.
🥚
Maybe because she has red hair?