DID MUHAMMAD EXIST? "Nope", here's why! (#1)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Here's the 'million dollar question'...Did Muhammad ever Exist?
Everything we have been told about Muhammad by the Muslims, about his life, about what he said, even about his city Mecca, and his book the Qur'an is now proving to be suspect.
And the reason?
Because we now know that none of what they have been telling us was known or written down by anyone who actually knew him, or even lived in the same century he lived.
In fact, we now find that everything about early Islam was compiled hundreds of years later, and hundreds of miles away, written down by those who never saw him, nor heard him, nor even knew him.
Yet, they created his story and then redacted it back 200-300 years earlier, without realizing the many historical mistakes they were making.
So, why haven't we been told this before?
Why have the Muslims kept this a secret from us?
Well, obviously because that fact alone means Islam is nothing more than a man-made religious belief, concocted in the 8th - 10th centuries, and then continually embellished up to, and including, today.
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What a gentleman Al Fadi is. He is a breath of fresh air.
He licks fresh red lipstick. Perhaps, it soooo yummy. He is now showing his true color. Rainbow. -11-22-23
Seems like a reasonable man.
Not both?
@@defenderoftruth3212 here comes some of mutha
Never thought people could be this stupid. The Qur'an says the earlier jews and christian wrongdoers misinterpreted, lied and misinformed despite knowing the truth and seeing the signs of Allah SWT thereby earning themselves the curse of Allah SWT. This fellow exceeded all bounds and claims something unimaginable. Should be taken to hospital for urgent care and checkup.
Fascinating, I have always been a history buff, but this is really fascinating to learn about the twists and turns of documentation.
Do you mean, his story. Everything is a lie..
@@maxipower6932prove your statement
without LIES islam DIES
@allhumdullilah for islam Tell us all Again how Old was mohammad when he Forced himself on top of a Nine yr old, Brother???
@allhumdullilah for islam The Reason why You Fail to Understand this Brother, is Because in Christianity, God Commands us to be HONEST.
@allhumdullilah for islam The koran Dose NOT Restrict to Puberty Brother, on the Contrary, it SPICIFICALLY states that Pre-Pubescent GIRLS are Permissible... Such as Aisha was....... Sura 65:4
@allhumdullilah for islam There You Go... See how Muslims claim that they LOVE Jesus MORE than Christians do! haha! That is because they have to say ANYTHING to try to defend their "Prophet"...
without LIES islam DIES.
I'll be Praying for You, Brother... I Really will. God Bless You. xo
@allhumdullilah for islam ad hominems, refute if you can.
When a man builds his house on rock, it will stand.
Jesus, You are my rock and my foundation.
I think there was a big rock slide and his house came tumbling down .
@@gordonlynn8300 I'd father live in a house built on stone than a house built on Islam.
Jesus might be a farud as well😂😂 who knows
jesus ? , what shakespeare play was he in ?
Great presentation from both sides, very educational/ scholastic presentation. Keep up the great work. May our Lord bless you both, Jay and Al Fadi ❤
Al Fadi, now I will remember your name for all time and when I attend the place my Father has prepared for me, I will bear witness to your most honourable work.
@@normangale3159 ......
Precisely, you would remember Abdul Fadi and Jay Smith. You would cry: "Please double to them the punishment I am suffering now. Had it not because of them, I would have submitted myself to Allah SWT, the Lord of the Worlds." -11-07-23
@@defenderoftruth3212 Allah hates Muslims. This is why he makes them suffer so much for so long.
Even without ANY god ! Let's go on like that instead of personal interpretations of all those crooks calling them holy .......all just interested on their OWN things ....
@@defenderoftruth3212 Do a comparison of the traits and characteristics of Allah vs. Satan.
They both have the same traits and characteristics in every way and in every department.
It is as easy as 2+2=4.......Allah IS Satan.
Prophet Mohammad police be upon him
This is beautiful information for most of us who have been ignorant before. Thank you, so much!
Ignorant people are easily fooled and manipulated!
Mudfossil University , Tyson's Mudfossil Adventures ,, Stellium7 ,, 3 sights that will challenge your comprehension of what is in front of your eyes ,, A 1000 mile long fossilised dragon for eg. see it for yourself on Google Earth ,,
You are looking for answers in the wrong places, don't thank this channel. They did the same to Jesus Christ. Just google it.
@shamsdoha952 Muslim is already dying dude..in 50 years no more abduls
@shamsdoha952 Don't forget that Umm Jamil had deep hatred for mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM)
Also, they are giving history. NO muslim scholar disputes their information. Show me otherwise...
mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM) is a FALSE prophet :
allah SPOKE to Adam, Moses, David and other prophets, BUT allah NEVER spoke to mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM).
mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM). NEVER did any signs
mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM) NEVER did any prophecies
mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM) was DECEIVED by SATAN
mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM) is NOT a prophet.
Outstanding stuff. I feel like I am in a college course, great presentation. I am looking fwd to the other programs. Thank you for doing this.
It's easy to get people to believe in things that happened thousands of years ago. Today you can't get them to believe in the facts that happen before their eyes. Awm
Agreed, can you imagine how people could possibly believe Jebus existed?
@@yorkazuna5934 lol, the problem here being Jesus is a well recorded historical figure talked about by several historians.
@@mathewsteven All religions are man made constructs meant to control people. No god could be as cruel as man has purported them to be and why? To rule by fear and have mankind tremble before leaders. I don't buy a word of it.
@@yorkazuna5934 Got it, so you just reject all evidence because you think God is mean.
@@mathewsteven I've heard pretty compelling argument from a few historians that Jesus never existed, either.
I love this content. It's been a question to me and these gaps are now answered.
It's funny that it's "controversial" to ask if Muhammed (the profit) ever did exist, when the exact same question was asked about Jesus. 😂 Thank you for this wonderful video, good sir. God bless you!
But then answers are given for that question about Jesus. There’s enough reason to back his existence
@@andrewo2001there's not, unfortunately
I dont understand thelogic and way how human being judging data and facts
@@smedusri5138 Noone understands everything, but if one is open to learn and keeps studying they can eventually understand most anything.
@@andrewo2001 ...............
Go to Israel and ask the Jews if they know "Jesus", their answer is a resounding NO. What became of the Jews? Nothing. They remained the Jews who professed Judaism.
Go to Saudi Arabia, or anywhere in the Middle East, and ask the Arabs if they know "Muhammad", their answer is a resounding YES.
What became of the Arabs? They became Muslims because of "Muhammad" and Islam.
Which one do you think that did not exist? -11-17-23
And the sad thing is these folklores have led to a lot of bloodshed on this earth.😢
The devil use it to deceived people...
@@daddada2984 Even early Christian sources show that Mohammad EXISTED ruclips.net/video/_mZgSIlX20U/видео.html
@@abunajam6787 Christian scholar? Who do you mean?
Time-line show it more he did exist...d
But even if did he exist.. his teachings is false & dangerous to the people..
so, stay away from islam.
@@abunajam6787 sure the Christians before muhammad knew of him because JESUS spoke of him as a false prophet
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire.
20 Therefore, by their fruits ye shall know them.
@@daddada2984 If Mohammad did not exist, who is this Mohammad mentioned in the Qur'an (revealed between 610-632)? Intelligent people substantiate their charge/claim. Please provide proof that Mohammad's "teachings is false & dangerous to the people." Here are some gems from Christianity: -“He that is not with me is against me”-(Matt. 12:30. And a person can be neutral).
-“If any man come to me, and HATE NOT his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple”-(Luke 14:26).
-“I am come to send FIRE on the earth;” “Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth, Nay; but rather DIVISION: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; and the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law”-(Luke 12:49, 51-53).
-“Think NOT that I am come to send peace on earth: I came NOT to send peace, but a SWORD”-(Matt. 10:34).
“But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me”-(Luke 19:27. Even though these enemies may not militate against him).
(Apostasy): Those who “secretly” entice another to follow an unknown God are to be stoned to death:
“And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt….If thy brother…entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers…thou shalt surely kill him”-(Deut; 13:5-16).
“If there be found among you…man or woman…. And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded…..Then thou shalt bring forth that man or that woman …and shalt stone them with stones, till they die”-(Deut; 17:2-5).
A “stubborn and rebellious son” is to be stoned to death-(Deut. 21:18-21).
(Honor killings): Married damsel without the “token of virginity” is to be stoned to death: “But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you”-(Deut. 22:20-21 Notably, the man with whom she played the “whore” is not stoned).
A virginal damsel who lies with a man other than her “betrothed,” both are to be stoned to death-(Deut. 22:23-24).
A witch is to be put to death-(Exodus 22:18).
Who curses his father or mother is to be put to death-(Lev. 20:9).
Punishment for adultery is death-(Lev. 20:10-12; Deut. 22:22).
Homosexuals are to be put to death-(Lev. 20:13).
A man who takes a “wife and her mother,” both shall be burnt with fire-(Lev. 20:14).
Who commits bestiality is to be put to death-(Lev. 20:15-16).
(Blasphemy): “And the Israelitish woman’s son blasphemed the name of the Lord, and cursed….And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying…let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.…And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death”-(Lev. 24:11-16, 23). Want mare see here nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=2730. Moreover, CHRISTIANITY DUPES PEOPLE nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5090
This video is awesome because it goes to demonstrate clearly that Islam in it's rudimentary form was probably something very simplistic. It took all these scholars from more sophisticated civilized neighbors to perfect the religion by taking from other pre existing faith systems ... and for that matter it took more than a couple centuries
heres the thing, if the other scholars couldn't, why could they be able to? we believe god sent the same message, people modified, and god sent another prophet to give the same message, and there are many evidences of muhammad, these video has many many lies, if you look carefully, lets start with first book, they say its bukhari, you can go if there were books before, and we have Quran carbon dating during the time of prophet muhammad :)
@@shahriar0247 doesnt prove Muhamad's existence
@@shahriar0247 hundreds of years AFTER his supposed death. meaning there is no eye witness evidence. muslims are allowed to lie to further islam. mmmmmm.
@@shahriar0247 Quran carbon dating, BIG LIE !
Bad believer you are indeed. I wonder if Rabbi Tovia would support you, Jay Smith and El Fadi
in your own misguided beliefs about the so-called Apostle Paul's New Testament.
Jay Smith and El Fadi would do themselves a great service by first consolidating and affirming the
authenticity of the Gospels and the Triune God and Jesus as the man God.
Many Christian scholars are leaving Christianity in droves because of what they are
discovering about the foundations of Christianity and its Founder Paul who
wants us all to believe that Jesus will wash all our sins away by simply
accepting Jesus into our lives as Saviour.
No self responsibilty or self examined lives. Really?!!!
Wake up and so should Jay Smith because all he has done with
all his work is bring many more Christians and Atheist and others
into the fold of ISLAM,
THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD.
What an incredible ministry!!!!!!!!!!!!
The truth is far worse than I thought👍
It does not matter what you say or think. Truth will always remain TRUTH.
That's not really the issue. The point is what is the truth?
@@teryarty177 Exactly. That’s the question. And we shouldn’t come to any conclusion with any hurry.
Does it matter whether truth is said?
The truth will always prevail, but lies & deception will fail as a matter of course.
@@hdl135605 Well -- how long has this one flourished?...... Since the 8th, 9th century?....And now how long will it take for the museums and textbooks to embrace the truth??
This knowledge is a 'Life Saver' for Weatern Civilization!!! England especially, if only itt can be circulated AND be expressed by persons of Authority WITH A BACKBONE!!!
So what you're saying is that
there's "Nohammad"
I commented on Jihad Watch when Robert Spencer talked about his book _Did Muhammad Exist_ . I suggested to him he should have subtitled it: _From Mohammad to Nohammad in 14 Centuries Flat_ .
Well played.. 😏
@@saminmahfuz2381 Yeah, meanwhile, all Jesus did was create everything that ever existed, including Muhammad and all those people he and his friends slaughtered and raped, and then came to earth as a man to die for their sins. But hey, I'm sure that Michael Hart book you all love to mention is a great read. 😉
@@saminmahfuz2381 You'll find out one day when you pass out of this life and into the next. But while I don't have to be vulgar and classless to get my point across, I think it's sad that Muslims who claim to serve the true God can't even defend him without putting their mind or their mouth in the gutter. We will all find out who the true God is when we die though, and on that day, we will all give an account for how we represented God in this life. You might want to reconsider your words and your choices before that day comes. Whoever has the true God, he certainly deserves to be represented tastefully and respectfully.
@@amp179 Your prophet did rape people he enslaved. The women who were kept alive were kept or sold as slaves, and whoever owned those slaves was allowed to use them for sex. That might be vulgar, but it's only because it's the truth. Calling captured woman what his right hand possesses, doesn't change the fact that they were slaves. And any man who forces themselves on the ones their right hand posseses doesn't make it any less rape.
If your mother or sister were taken as spoils of war and their bodies used against their will, I would hope you would see that and call it what it is. But this is what your prophet did according to his own testimony, so you can't blame the rest of the world for calling it shameful and barbaric.
You have gone one step ahead and questioned the existence of Muhammad itself
Jay Smith is amazing; I just found him and his teachings, it is liberating to finally find someone who is brave enough to expose the fallacy of Islam. I’ve studied Islam a little in the past and found it to be incredibly weak. I lost interest and said to myself: “I’m a Christian, old, retired, and don’t doubt my faith.” I’ve said for a long time that: “We’re going to end up fighting these Moslems”, this thought now seems to be coming true with world events. It helps to know about who may become your enemy. The better action would be for Moslems to become Christians!
You know why the Muslims don't react to Jay's rubbish Cause he just talk nonsense
@alcoholfree .................
Do you mean to say you would like to drag the Muslims to the raging fire of Hell. I think no right thinking Muslim would ever like to be invited to endure the unbearable sufferings in Hell. You must know that all the things you're doing are being recorded religiously by the angels assigned to you by Allah SWT from all sides - front, back, right and left. Not a single deed of yours escapes them. In the Hereafter, the Record Book will be spread-opened before your very eyes. And your eyes will bloat out to see about what had you done on earth. Not one dot of your deeds is left unrecorded. That is the basis for your judgment. You'll be justly judged based on your Record Book. And your tongues, hands, and feet will speak and testify against you. And for those people whom you had convinced with will ask Allah SWT to double on you the punishment they are suffering.
13:11. For EACH (such person) there are (ANGELS) in succession, BEFORE and BEHIND him; They guard him by command of Allah.
50:17. Behold, TWO (guardian angels) appointed to learn (his doings) learn (and note them), one sitting on the RIGHT and one on the LEFT.
24:24. On the Day when their TONGUES, their HANDS, and their FEET will bear witness against them as to their actions.
17:13. Every man's fate We have fastened on his own neck: On the Day of Judgment We shall bring out for him a SCROLL, which he will see SPREAD OPEN.
17:14. (It will be said to him:) "READ your (own) RECORD: Sufficient is your soul this day to make out an account against you."
18:49. And the BOOK (OF DEEDS) will be placed (before you); and thou wilt see the sinful in great terror because of what is (recorded) therein; they will say, "Ah! Woe to us! What a book is this! It leaves out nothing small or great, but takes account thereof!" They will find all that they did, placed before them: And not one will your Lord treat with injustice.
39:69. And the Earth will shine with the glory of its Lord: The RECORD (of DEEDS) will be placed (open); and the prophets and the witnesses will be brought forward; and a just decision pronounced between them; and they will not be wronged (in the least).
Here on earth, it's all praises that you received from them. But in the Hereafter, it will be all recrimination from them to you. But, it's not yet late to ponder upon the Truth against Falsehood. So come to the Truth. Allah SWT is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. -11-06-23
Amen; there is enough of the One True God’s love for all.
@saleggadavids-dg6ly yet, you cannot give a valid argument against any of what Jay or Al said.
@@lynnmarie2962 ..............
What Jay Smith is doing is refuting the facts about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) existence. So, there is no need to make a valid argument since he is himself arguing by making the truth to become false. But no matter how he would argue, the existence of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) cannot be denied. No Muslim would ever believe in him. Only Christian like you who would swallow every word he utters. But never to Muslims. -11-17-23
I love listening to Jay, his testimony about living in India and and being a street preacher in England
A. External references to Prophet Mohammad!
Early external references to Prophet Mohammad can be found in a book entitled “Seeing Islam as Others Saw It”. Written by Robert G. Holland, published in 1997..
Please do find free pdf file this book on the internet.
The book presents the evidentiary text of over 120 seventh century manuscripts, one of which (the manuscript of Thomas the Presbyter) contains what Hoyland believes is the "first explicit reference to Muhammad in a non-Muslim source:"
1) The first explicit reference to Muhammad in a non-Muslim source
The 7th-century Chronicle of 640 was published by Wright who first brought to attention the mention of an early date of 947 AG (635-36 CE).
In the year 945, indiction 7, on Friday 7 February (634) at the ninth hour, there was a battle between the Romans and the Arabs of Muhammad (tayyaye d-Mhmt) in Palestine twelve miles [19 km] east of Gaza. The Romans fled, leaving behind the patrician Bryrdn,[2] whom the Arabs killed. Some 4000 poor villagers of Palestine were killed there, Christians, Jews and Samaritans. The Arabs ravaged the whole region.
2). The Second explicit reference to Muhammad in a non-Muslim source
Fragment on the Arab Conquests are fragmentary notes that were written around the year 636 AD on the front blank pages of a sixth-century Syriac Christian manuscript of the Gospel of Mark. The fragment depicts events from the early seventh century conflict between the Byzantines and "the Arabs of Muhammad", particularly of the battle of Yarmouk.[1]
In January {the people of}[2] Ḥomṣ took the word for their lives and many villages were ravaged by the killing of {the Arabs of} Mūḥmd and many people were slain and {taken} prisoner from Galilee as far as Beth…
On the tw{enty-six]th of May the Saq{īlā}ra went {…} from the vicinity of Ḥomṣ and the Romans chased them {…}
3) The third explicit reference to Muhammad in a non-Muslim source
Another account of the early seventh century comes from Sebeos who was an Armenian bishop of the House of Bagratuni. His account indicates he was writing at a time when memories of sudden eruption of the Arabs were fresh. He knows Muhammad's name, that he was a merchant by profession, and hints that his life was suddenly changed by a divinely inspired revelation. Sebeos is the first non-Muslim author to present us with a theory for the rise of Islam that pays attention to what the Muslims themselves thought they were doing.
At that time a certain man from along those same sons of Ismael, whose name was Mahmet [i.e., Mụhammad], a merchant, as if by God's command appeared to them as a preacher [and] the path of truth. He taught them to recognize the God of Abraham, especially because he was learnt and informed in the history of Moses. Now because the command was from on high, at a single order they all came together in unity of religion. Abandoning their vain cults, they turned to the living God who had appeared to their father Abraham. So, Mahmet legislated for them: not to eat carrion, not to drink wine, not to speak falsely, and not to engage in fornication. He said: 'With an oath God promised this land to Abraham and his seed after him for ever. And he brought about as he promised during that time while he loved Israel. But now you are the sons of Abraham and God is accomplishing his promise to Abraham and his seed for you. Love sincerely only the God of Abraham, and go and seize the land which God gave to your father Abraham. No one will be able to resist you in battle, because God is with you.[60]
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4). The fourth explicit reference to Muhammad in a non-Muslim source
The oldest known source mentioning prophet Mohammad in relation to Saracens (people who were Muslims as referred to by Christian) dates to the 7th century. It was found in Doctrina Jacobi, a commentary that discussed the Muslim conquest of the Levant.
When the candidatus [i.e., Sergios, commander of the Byzantine army in Palestine] was killed by the Saracens, I was at Caesarea and I set off by boat to Sykamina. People were saying "the candidatus has been killed," and we Jews were overjoyed. And they were saying that the prophet had appeared, coming with the Saracens, and that he was proclaiming the advent of the anointed one, the Christ who was to come. I, having arrived at Sykamina, stopped by a certain old man well-versed in scriptures, and I said to him: "What can you tell me about the prophet who has appeared with the Saracens?" He replied, groaning deeply: "He is false, for the prophets do not come armed with a sword. Truly they are works of anarchy being committed today and I fear that the first Christ to come, whom the Christians worship, was the one sent by God and we instead are preparing to receive the Antichrist. Indeed, Isaiah said that the Jews would retain a perverted and hardened heart until all the earth should be devastated. But you go, master Abraham, and find out about the prophet who has appeared." So I, Abraham, inquired and heard from those who had met him that there was no truth to be found in the so-called prophet, only the shedding of men's blood. He says also that he has the keys of paradise, which is incredible.[8]
About Saracens
One of many lies jays invented is about saracen. Many event Hoyland book refer to saracen. Jay Smith invented lies that there is no record about Muslim. People who conquer Area around Syria are Saracens. These people called them Self Saracens not Muslims. Well that's one of jays smith big lies.
Who are these Saracens?
According to Wikipedia : Saracens (/ˈsærəsən/) were primarily Arab Muslims, but also Turks or other who were Muslims as referred to by Christian writers in Europe during the Middle Ages.
So saracens is a term used by Christian writers during the Middle Ages when referring people who were Muslims
In Doctrina Jacobi, there is this conversation
“What can you tell me about the prophet who has appeared with the Saracens (Muslims)?. He replied, groaning deeply: "He is false, for the prophets do not come armed with a sword.”
For us today, the answer is obvious, the prophet who has appeared with the Saracens (Muslims) and who often called by the Christian as a false prophets because it armed with a sword.” was prophet Muhammed
5) The Fifth explicit reference to Muhammad in a non-Muslim source
Ashtiname of Muhammad also known as the Covenant or Testament (Testamentum) of Muhammad is a document which is a charter written by Ali ratified by Muhammad granting protection and other privileges to the followers of Jesus the Nazarene, given to the Christian monks of St Catharine monastery in Sinai.
Muslims never claim the existing charter now in the moastery is the original charter. Around 1500 CE, the original chapter was handed over to Sultan Selim I's palace in Istanbul for safekeeping. A copy was then made to compensate for its loss at the monastery. The charter was renewed with the some additional right and obligations from the Ottoman sultan. Drawing of hand, minaret and some new words, most likely later addition.
Despite some additions, the copy of Ashtiname of Muhammad, retains most of its original wording, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the story that the charter is given by Mohammad remains intact in the mind of St Catharine monks for more than 1400 years.
Please enjoy the story told by St Catharine monk in this video.
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B. External references to Jesus
The following explains two External references to Jesus
1). The first explicit reference to Jesus in a non-Christians source
In the book Antiquities of the Jews, written by the first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus around 93-94 AD,
About this time lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was the achiever of extraordinary deeds and was a teacher of those who accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Messiah. When he was indicted by the principal men among us and Pilate condemned him to be crucified, those who had come to love him originally did not cease to do so; for he appeared to them on the third day restored to life, as the prophets of the Deity had foretold these and countless other marvelous things about him, and the tribe of the Christians, so named after him, has not disappeared to this day.
2). The second explicit reference to Jesus in a non-Christians source
The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.
But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.
C. Conclusions
There plenty of video disproving Jesus circulated on the internet, Here is one of such a video
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If we leave the proof as there are, there are Five external references to Prophet Muhammad but only two external references to Jesus.
so this is why he keep telling people Islam doesn't exist.
he came from a dying religion background.
@@begobolehsjwjangan2359 He never said islam doesn't exists lol.
@@rob7724 and what tell?
Converting Hindus by deceit & Greed. No shame in looting, torturing & manipulating us. Abrahamic desert cults are same.
Seems to me those guys up north who did the writing 200 years later, were heavily influenced by Jewish Hebrew writing. Why else mention Abraham, Moses.....?
I think it's clear that they had access to the hebrew bible(old testament) and each successive writer took the bits he wanted from the previous iteration and wove a bit the the hebrew bible stories into it.
@@neill392 With the story of Ismael being the first born of Abraham and Israel the second born the could argue that the arabs, not the jews, were the true descendants of the heir of Abraham.
@@The0ldg0at thing is Ismael is egyptian
@@The0ldg0at Isaac was born from Sarah Abraham's wife and Ishmael was born of Sarah handmaid, it's all recorded in the Torah/Bible hundreds Nd thousands of years before Muhammad started Islam.
@@The0ldg0at Plus the Islamic story is more in line with the militant messianism of the Jews that was crushed by the Romans. The Muslims were the true supercessionists of this branch of Judaism.
I was talking to a muslim a couple of days ago. I just felt in my spirit saying, "Muhammad is not real."
Things weren't making any sense at that moment for me, until i tried to look for it.
Thank you Lord for more clarification about the lies of islam.
Hmmmm but Fake White European Jesus Born In A Black Land But painted White Like Europeans was Truth huh? Ignorance is at an all times high!!!!
This message needs to get to the Imams and scholars of Islam once and for all. It shows that this was man made ideology.
pure cult
Maybe that is why we can see Islam is too controlling people if it is man made
Just like all other ideologies.
Please keep scratching. Their false teachings are being turned out.
There is also no proof that Jesus existed. Not taking a religious side but most religions are based mostly on false things.
One day the ultimate truth will be known and revealed,; but unfortunately it will be too late for so many.
Nohamhead
🤣 poor thing you can believe your fake prophet mohamed and fake book and fake history and fake religion got exposed?
Arabian nights story😂😂😂😂😂😂 author Gabriel
The most fascinating for me as an European who’s studied in KSA is this bedu who lived in that same country, he speaks Arabic, he can observe four Islamic schools that had physical connections with sahaba and after all that he is blind.
Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.
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When you say it is authored by Gabriel, that includes Prophet jESUs (pbuh). For it is Gabriel who approached Mary and told her about the glad tidings that she shall bear a child by the name of "Isa". -11-17-23
Really enlightening and informative!
I'll put my pet theory up and see how it stands once this series is finished.
There was a guy who went by the name or title Mohamed, he was famous at the time, he died around the right time. What he believed, why, where he lived , what he did bears no necessary resemblance to what is described in the traditions.
Some Caliph, I'd guess Malik, observed that Rome was united by Christianity, Persia had been united by Zoroastrianism and wanted a religion to unite his empire. So he collected, or had collected, stories that were in currently circulation, selected those that suited his purpose, rejected the rest-possibly altering some, and attributed the result to the well known hero Mohamed so he could claim to have a source
My pet theory is that Lucifer was crucified instead of Jesus.
Evidence is that:
1) Lucifer mimics Jesus in your bible...as the "Jesus" spoke and acted Out of Character in some bible verses..(proof can be given)
2) Lucifer has the same title (Morning Star) and is also a son of god (Job 1:6)
3) Both Lucifer and Jesus were called the LIGHT "light-bearer" or "light-bringer."
(Isaiah 14:12 and Revelation 22:16)
4) "Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Who laid the cornerstone thereof; when the MORNING STARS sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
-Job 38:6
5) Satan Paul said that Lucifer is the God of this world" in 2 Corinthians 4:4
as God SO LOVED THIS WORLD he sent his begotten son (John 3:16)
6) On the Road to Damascus Satan Paul saw a BRIGHT LIGHT and later admitted that Lucifer masquerades as a BRIGHT LIGHT (Corinthians 11:14)
6) The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he was Jesus as he always wanted to be God
7) As he was also fatally pieced with a Sword/Spear and became alive again (Rev 13:14)
@@aaaabraham837 so your theory is that Lucifer took the place of Jesus, or that they are the same person?
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Yes, Lucifer took the place of Jesus and they were 2 different creations.
@@aaaabraham837 Where do you get Lucifer from? Isn't he a medieval invention?
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Robert Spencer is one of the best, he should be given more credit and airtime than he does.
he's not p.c.
If he actually did the same for Christianity maybe. Because it's just as fake. Until then here just like the Muslims that believe the Quran.
He’s not very impressive.
His focus is the history and manifestation of jihad.
The internet is killing Islam.
The Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, is flooding the country with immigrants from Third World countries. There are a lot of Muslims in Canada now. Muslims stick together for cultural and social reasons. They do not ask if Islam is historically true. They stay with Islam because it is part of their identity.
Always following your video...Its a great belssing to know about the Man, the Book and the place of ISLAM. Thanks a lot
Thanks Alfadi and Jay I always appreciate your help Informing Us about the History of Moslems Religion 🙏👍❤
Wow. Thank you for this. I fell out with two Muslim former friends last year and I was so heartbroken because of the fallout. They sent me down this research path and boy has it been an eye opening journey. Thank God for The Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit of Truth. This darkness cloud of lies cannot overcome the Light that came and dwelt with us.
My awareness is that many scholars of Christianity do not assume that the Gospels were in any way eyewitness accounts.
Gospels were only letters by Jesus Christ's apostles who acted as eyewitnesses.
And there are many historians who argue convincingly that they are eyewitness accounts. What's your point? It's not who says what or how many make a claim but how good their arguments and evidence are. I've read some from both sides and find the eyewitness accounts camp to have the better arguments and evidence.
Shall we expand some awareness? I'll provide samples here:
LUKE 24:30-2 "When He was at the table with them, He took bread, gave thanks, broke it and began to give it to them. Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him"
JOHN 1:32 "Then John [the Baptist] gave this testimony: 'I saw the Spirit come down from Heaven as a dove and remain on Him.'"
ACTS 5:32 "We are witnesses of these things"
The scholars you were exposed to may make such assumptions, but the text of the New Testament is explicit despite them: the Gospels (and the Book of Acts) are substantially eyewitness accounts.
One really interesting thing too about the Quran: the "first" accepted standardized, and supposedly "correct" Quran was written and published in the 1960's. So, for the majority of time (1500 years), there were literally thousands of different versions of the Quran floating around Muslims were using written by "whomever".
Wasn't the first standardised quran from the mid 1920s in Egypt?
Yet Muslims claim that the Quran is the perfect book.
@@Sneakyboson ...............
That was the 796 Qur'an used by the University student in 1924. But because it was used in 1924, Jay Smith deceived the Christians like you that it was a 1924 Qur'an and was standardized in 1924. That is how cunning and deceitful Jay Smith is. -11-17-23
@@defenderoftruth3212you are the deceitful one. Jay said this Quran was standardized in 1924 which is true. He never said this Quran was written in 1924.
As usual not a slightest understanding of logic or concept. You are all about rhetoric.
Standardized means before that this Quran was not any truer than any of the other ones. And that it was chosen as the true one by humans in Egypt in 1924, not before. As the canonical bible was also not the first bible. Though it was canonicalized before Muhammad.
Interestingly these guys are agreeing that there was Prophet Jesus(pbuh) who doesnt have a burial place on earth but dont want to admit there was Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) who has a proper burial site where millions of people visit every week to pay their respects, which is again a sign that the Quran is right,
“Indeed (O Prophet), we have given you abundance. So pray to your Lord and sacrifice. Indeed, it is your enemy who will be cut off (forgotten).” Quran 108:1-3
Great that you guys have been putting this information out there for so long because the truth, facts, they are important. In this politically correct world where it is fine for white peoples to criticise Christianity but not Islam it is great that you guys arm us with the factual information that exposes the flimsy-ness of the intellectual foundation upon which Islam has been concocted.
Walt Disney produced interesting stories about Donald Duck. Thankfully, some of us realise the're just stories & we don't use those stories as motivation to hack the heads off of people who don't worship Donald Duck. If some vast army of Donald Duck worshippers decided it would be a great idea to hack the heads off non DD worshippers, that would be unfortunate and we would quickly learn to stay the hell away from Disneyland. However, if the halfwit maniacal murderous DD worshippers spewed out of Disneyland & started invading & hacking ordinary women & children in cities throughout Britain, Europe, Australia & elsewhere, drastic action would need to be taken. That might be a vaccine program. It might be a broad spectrum one that cannot distinguish between DD worshippers & worshippers of any other similarly stupid rubbish.
@@johnbrooks9523 That’s quite a mouthful. However, let’s not conclude that simply because one religion is false, all of them are. That wouldn’t be scientific, frankly.
Never once have I heard of a man who could convince Christopher Hitchens of a lie. Have never heard of an honest man who could detect a lie from Hitchens. Only superstitious types who believed in fantacies who tried. Hitchens devoted much of his life to travel & meticulous study. His observations are based on fact & reality. He never blamed a convenient concocted devil for any mistake or misdeed. He demonstrated to all that human beings can live their lives in peace, show consideration & act decently without consulting a manual. He did not require an imagined eternal life as a reward for compliance.
Some of us are immune to ancient superstitious nonsense.... We have evolved & moved on.
We can all choose & it isn't simply a choice of this load of nonsense or that... We can choose no nonsense. Then we risk attack from the unfortunates who want to attract us to their chosen army of deludeds & who brand us athiest & undesirable until deluded. Even common sense is imaginary.
@@johnbrooks9523 Those guys were spouting nonsense, Muhammad did exist, and the ultimate proof is the Qur'an, and the Qur'an is protected forever by Allah, never to be corrupted in its original writing, Allah promise that Himself. If He failed to do this, than the Qur'an is just like any other story telling Books.
Now, what kind of God fail to uphold His promises?
And the next, where in the world you can find a corrupted Qur'an in its corrupted writings? None can be find, and you guys cant find it either, even if you try to do it yourself.
Because if somebody try to challenge Allah authority, they simply die.
It is so easy for Allah to take the life of His creation, afterall He is the creator.
There is scientific miracles in the Qur'an, you can even search it up. :)
(42) - وَلَا تَحْسَبَنَّ اللَّهَ غَافِلًا عَمَّا يَعْمَلُ الظَّالِمُونَ ۚ إِنَّمَا يُؤَخِّرُهُمْ لِيَوْمٍ تَشْخَصُ فِيهِ الْأَبْصَارُ
And never think that Allah is unaware of what the wrongdoers do. He only delays them for a Day when eyes will stare [in horror].
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@@mclifer ............
It's the Doomsday. There will be great earthquakes. There will be convulsion of the earth. The mountains will be flattened and turned into dust. All will die. Humans. Animals. Birds. Angels. Satan. Jinns. All living creatures. Everything will turn into nothingness. No one will be left alive. Only Allah SWT. -11-17-23
Jay is well learned and has the facts. Thanks for enlightening many people. God bless you🙏👍
Jay just talking nonsens I think he read the Koran that the Israelis right
@@saleggadavids-dg6ly so why don;t you provide the facts? 😄 let us hear your version
Learned enough to start a hate movement that goes against Christianity. As a medical student who has traveled the world I have met many Christian communities that believe in Muhammad peace be upon him. Georgia Tblisi for example, Christians there believe in him. Is this the so called love that Jesus taught, try to destroy his successor. Your clearly one of those people who if told pigs fly, you would believe it without looking into it. I have seen his misleading videos, watch the one where he gets caught lying to his audience. Have visited many Christian and Islamic holy sights with respect to both faiths. People that follow Jay and David Wood, do not follow Jesus but hate groups. Everything Jay says about the Quran you can apply that to the different testemants. Who keeps changing the bible? GOD? Jesus? The original bible was the true word of GOD, now there is so much lying in the church, Christians are leaving it to seek the truth. Find any video where Jay actually tells you about the details of Prophet Muhammads (PBUH) life, if he did his audience would leave him. Such things as charity, fasting, avoiding alcohol, looking after parents, eating healthy, how to speak to others with manners and the list goes on, oh and not to mention the amazing scientific facts about atoms, rotation of the earth, how mountains anchor the plates on the earth to stabilise it. I can keep going. That was all during his time. IF you carefully look at todays society and apply Christianity and Islam the world would be a better place but people like you want to spread hate. Shameful
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What Jay Smith is doing is refuting the facts about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) existence. So, there is no need to make a valid argument since he is himself arguing by making the truth to become false. But no matter how he would argue, the existence of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) cannot be denied. No Muslim would ever believe in him. Only Christian like you who would swallow every word he utters. But never to Muslims. -11-17-23
Brother asked a Very good question 😂😁😂
Hope this answers the question. 😂😂😂😂
Well explained, I liked this conversation of you two gentlemen.Thanks.
The contents of the Quran were dictated by God and recited by Muhammad and were supposed to be the definitive and final revelation. Now, if these were so then somebody ought to have written them down already in an original manuscript certified by Muhammad himself with his own handwriting. But why is it that it was compiled decades later from scraps. God surely knows better than this to preserve His definitive revelation. At least, the Bible was the result of the divine inspiration of men who preached and wrote the Good News. If it were the result of divine dictation then it would have been written down as it was dictated by God and not as it was dictated by men. If it were from the dictation of men, then it would not be said to have come from heaven but from men. That is the foundational problem of the Quran. It is like the Moronic Plates of Mormonism.
Lol everything you said is bullshit. The university of Birmingham has stated that the Quran that exists today is the same Quran that existed 1400 years ago when mohamad was alive by carbondating (Birmingham Quran look it up). However, all historians agree that the Bible is certainly written at least 30 years after the death of Jesus, and its main author (Paul) never met Jesus in his life and wasn’t one of the 12 apostles that Jesus handpicked himself. Finally, I will prove the preservation of Quran by giving a simple example, imagine that we burn every single copy of all the Bibles and Qurans of the world, the Quran would be re-written within 2 hours and the Bible will be lost forever, because Muslims (more than 100 millions) memorize the Quran word for word, letter by letter and no Christian memorizes the Bible word for word letter by letter. This how Quran is preserved and will preserved until the end of times.
@@brianzar1943 your Birmingham Quran contains a mere three Surahs of 114, and this is hardly the preservation of a definitive revelation that we are looking for.
@@winstonbarquez3373 Lol can you bring me one verse of the bible that is preserved for 2000 years ago?
At least the Birmingham Quran shows that this video is bullshit and Mohamad indeed existed, and at least we have a proof that the quran is preserved, do you have any proof that its not preserved?
Some of the companions used to write the revelations, like Mu’awiya. The prophet was illiterate (a sign of his prophethood), and so the companions read the Quran to the prophet, with all the established readings (that have subtle changes in vowels). There you go, they both wrote and read the Quran to him.
It wasn’t compiled decades after. It was written within his life and compiled no more than 2 years after his death. Some companions had their own compilation already. It was memorized by many, any mistake by someone will be instantly corrected by others, I see this in mosques all the time.
My only criticism of this book is that I bought the 1st edition on Kindle, now I have to pay again for the revised edition. There ought to be a discount.
Why would you want to read it again - you’ve read the main message move on
Because there's a fair bit of new information in the revised edition!
@@andreas-pryce you already know the truth ?
I'm tempted to put a $2000,000 life insurance on those guys.
I'm muslim, and although most of these stuff these guying are saying is bullshit he is debating islam and not insulting all of us. No need for life life insurance.
Yes I agree the chances that they die eventually is certainly 100%!
@@sidney6021Just because you're not plotting to murder them doesn't go mean no one is. I'm no fan of Christianity but making fun of Jesus is a lot less likely to get you killed.
@@allenhanford you need to think very hard about what you just said. MAKING FUN. Muslims have never made fun with Jesus because we view God's messengers with reverence. Some of you guys on the other hand have very little respect for your own parents so I can understand why the enormity of such actions is not much bother.
Discuss, debate, criticise no problem. Don't take the piss.
@@sidney6021 It's only enormous to you. To me, Muhammad and Jesus are people who may or may not have existed. In either case I don't believe they they have any connection to a god that I believe to be fictitious.
I don't know where you're from but here in America we have free speech and satire is protected. The only thing that's wrong with making fun of religions is that it offends people which is impolite. However, you seem to think that everyone everywhere should be observing the rules of your religion, and THAT offends ME. You should think very carefully about what effect your beliefs have on free societies.
La ilaha illa Muhammad. Allah Rasool Muhammad
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Have a Rasgulla
@@bharatmahaan2991 Should I have Halal Rasgulla or Haram Pork ?
Mohammad rasgulla
Now, if you only applied that skepticism to the historical existence of Jesus.
Even islam says that Jesus Chritst was real, just as they recognize the existance of Moses and Abraham.
The Gospels were written by men who knew Jesus. The book of John even begins with emphasis that he was an eyewitness of everything he wrote. Moreover, Paul wrote that there were 500 eyewitnesses of the resurrected Christ living in the 1st century church.
@@markdouglas8073 He would, since Paul invented Christianity
We have Roman account of him. I dont believe he was the Christ. I'm pagan, but indeed we have record of this confused man.
Both Mohammed and Jesus almost certainly existed. The real question is how close are the religious text and tradition to reality. The Gospels were closer to the source. I find it unlikely that Mohammed was a whole-cloth fabrication, but I think a lot more of the words of Mohammed were manufactured after the fact. Yet another question is were either imbued with supernatural connections.
Finding muhammad like finding nemo...
U mean.wheres waldo when there is no.waldo to begin with
" Hendrick subianto followers of pagan trinity like you...
@@saminmahfuz2381 because all jr n sr high school indroduced n teached more about newton than Jesus Christ, as simple like that...
@@saminmahfuz2381 Is this the best you have got in defense of Muhammad?
@@aldredtawasil9339 Better than Muhammad followers of pagan black box Kaaba & Black Stone.
May Allah guide those who are sincerely seeking for the truth aaminn ✨❤
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You'll find no truth in your made up god allah....
He already has been doing it. They are called scientists. The track they leave behind is called enlightenment. Amen. Do you still "believe"? Well, I will THINK for you, then, brother.
@@alienlovesecrets9379 🤗💖☝️alhamdulillah, as non-Arab, I'm doing my research too, in fact I once studied on that field علوم الحديث و علوم القرآن and learn Arabic almost 7 years now. Alhamdulillah, all the points they presented here are refutable unless if they don't bother to seek for the truth sincerely. ✨ In addition, it's funny when I saw them try to criticise Arabic language in Quran when they don't even speak Arabic properly. It's like someone criticise Chinese poetry when they don't even speak Chinese themselves or can read the pinyin of it. 🙏✨They can try to find faults in Quran or Islam as hard as they could, at the end, Allah and all believers will still choose on this path. 🤗
Surah as-saff
7. And who does more wrong than the one who invents a lie against Allah, while he is being invited to Islam? And Allah guides not the people who are Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.
8. They intend to put out the Light of Allah (i.e. the religion of Islam, this Qur’an, and Prophet Muhammad ) with their mouths. But Allah will complete His Light even though the disbelievers hate (it).
9. He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad ) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islamic Monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah and in His Messenger Muhammed ) hate (it).
ايت سهاج دري ساي، سكيان تريما كسيه👐
May he guide all away from this semetic darkness into the light of humanity and civilization. Om shanti. 🙏
Allah banned intellectualism from Islam. Quran 5:101 reads, “O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain (simple, clear) to you may cause you trouble (grief).” In the next verse, Allah explained why no Muslims must seek “Intellectualisms” such as innovations, creativities, free flows of ideas, and thoughts: Quran 5:102 reads, “Some people (Muslims) before you did ask such questions, and on that account, lost their faith.”
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In Judaism (Old Testament), the greatest Prophet is Moses - a university graduate who excelled as a distinguished honor-roll student at the University of Cairo, Egypt. Moses spoke in the name of “YAHWEH”, his God; and He (YAHWEH) proved Moses’ prophethood by not only speaking with Moses face-to-face, but also by allowing Moses to perform miracles (signs and wonders).
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In Christianity (New Testament), the greatest Apostle is Paul - a distinguished Law Degree student at the prestigious School of Gamaliel and a graduate at the University of Cilicia, Syria. Paul spoke in the name of “Jesus Christ”, his Lord; and He (Jesus Christ) proved Paul’s apostleship by not only speaking with Paul face-to-face, but also by allowing Paul to perform miracles (signs and wonders).
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In Islam (Quran), the greatest Example of Mankind is Muhammed - a lowly un-educated, demon possessed goat herder (goat-keeper) of the Arabian Desert who enjoyed the appetites (hungers, cravings) of a man - lust, deceit, greed, power, and treachery. Muhammed spoke in the name of Allah, his god, who never once proved Muhammed’s claims of apostleship and prophethood by either speaking with Muhammed face-to-face, or by allowing Muhammed to perform miracles (signs and wonders).
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Old Testament Deuteronomy 19:15 reads, “At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses shall a matter be settled.” In Islam, Muhammed is his own witness - even to the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Muhammed, alone, goes behind the house, and then comes back with revelations from his god that say things like: “O Muhammed - Jesus did not die on the Cross, but someone was made (created) to look like Jesus; why do you forbit for yourself that which Allah has made lawful for you such as having sexual intercourse with both your daughter-in-law and a nine-year-old child; and the killings of Jews and Christians.” With those revelation from Muhammed, the matters in Islam are settled.
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Interestingly, there is no death penalty in all of Islam for questioning and insulting Allah. But for questioning and insulting Muhammed, you invoke the death penalty on yourself - a punishment Allah enforces not even for himself, but for Muhammed. Allah exists to make sure that nobody hurts Muhammed’s feelings and lives. You can see and understand why Allah bans intellectualisms such as innovations, creativities, free flows of ideas, and thoughts from Islam.
These two should discuss about the life of Jesus too.
Why were 24 books of Gospel that were written but only 4 books were included in the Bible? What were the stories of the other 20 books?
Than, what happened and where were Jesus between his age of 13 to 30 years?
Hello.where do you have the information of 24 books from? I know there´s a book of Thomas read by Indian christians, but those other 19 (!!!) books???
Any way around about the quantity, it only reconfirms the existence of Jesus. Not mentioning the historical books produced by the Roman historian and other.
Thus the comparation is too much to bear and it keeps counting/increasing if we include recent archaelogic digging discovery.
@@HesadrianBoediman You mean the historian Tacitus? His "report", written in after the year 70, cannot seriously count.
@@ruedigernassauer thanks for information, gladly received, one more historian added would create a definitive and abundant list to confirm past events.. yes of course the approx date released would count to its validity factor as a secondary historical source.
Islam is carnal fabrication of submission and sex slavery of women. If you are a Muslim with this knowledge you are a deceiver.
Thanks to the work of Robert Spencer, this work enlightens and broadens the problems within this cult. When Jesus is turned away, no good can come to life.
when there is hole in the narrative and a hole in the hole of the narrative
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Universal Flamethrower Even early Christian sources show that Mohammad EXISTED ruclips.net/video/_mZgSIlX20U/видео.html
@@abunajam6787 all sources aside, what have abdools done for the world
@@universalflamethrower6342 Islam and knowledge and benefits to man nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=364. What have other religions "done for the world"?
@@abunajam6787 Currently MBS getting rid of the Hadith because he recognizes they are made up, maybe het takes the bold step of getting rid of everything else that has to do with Islam. Because he recognizes that with Islam he can't enter into the 21st century, it is going to be fun to watch the Muslim world schism and tear itself apart by its inner contradictions. Islam is fit for pre-modern conquest, ever since modenity the Muslim world has been irrelevant but for the oil. So no the Muslim world did not contribute to anything it mainly destroyed and killed a lot and now keeps millions of people back because of their faith
I like the Star Wars style opening sequence.
It is the thing I like least about this channel - it is a cliche now
I like it too Michael,
Historical Fact Jay Smith Try To Hide
1). Kufa the last capital of Rasilhidun Caliphate
Jay Smith and his kind, always question why so many Islamic documents produce far from Mecca and Medina. Well it is no secret that during Ali Caliphate, the capital move from Medina to Kufa far north of Mecca and Medina near present day Baghdad.
The Change of Capital from Medina to Kufa
In rajab of 36 a.h. (JANUARY 657) ALI decided to transfer the headquarters of his government from Medina in Hijaz to Kufa in Iraq. When law and order had been restored in Basra, he appointed Abdullah ibn Abbas as its new governor, and then left for Kufa which became, thenceforth, the new capital of Islam.
So now you understand why so many developments in early Islamic Islamic Literature such as the collection Hadith or Tafsir of the Quran or Biography of the prophet took place n far north of Mecca and Madina. This fact is something Jay Smith and his dubious panel of experts try to hide.
2). Biography of Muhammad
Jay Smith said there are only two of prophet biographer namely Ibn Ishaq and ibn Hisyam. Ibn Hisyam explain clearly that he only rewrite or copying what was written by ibn Ishaq book 75 years earlier.
Jay Smith only recognizes Ibn Hisyam, he don’t like to see anybody write something about muhammad biography closer to the time of prophet Muhammad death. He just want to see the prophet biographer written as late as possible.
Ibn Hisham wasn’t the first, not the only one and not the last one. Ibn Hisham clearly anounce whe was rewrote Ibn Ishaq book 75 years earlier. When Ibn Hisham wrote his book, there was many of other historians, Authors and grandchildren of the companions. There is also hundreds of biographies of the prophet with different sources in Arabic, there is also many non Muslim authors who wrote about Mohamed.
Here is a list of books before Ibn Hisham
A : Biographer among tsahaba (Eyewitnes who know And speak to The prophet)
* Sahl ibn Abī Ḥathma (d. in Mu'awiya's reign, i.e., 41-60 AH), was a young companion of Muhammad. Parts of his writings on Maghazi are preserved in the Ansāb of al-Baladhuri, the Ṭabaqāt of Ibn Sa'd, and the works of Ibn Jarir al-Tabari and al-Waqidi.
* Abdullah ibn Abbas (d. 78 AH), a companion of Muhammad, his traditions are found in various works of Hadith and Sīra.
* Saʿīd ibn Saʿd ibn ʿUbāda al-Khazrajī, another young companion, his writings have survived in the Musnad of Ibn Hanbaland Abī ʿIwāna, and al-Tabari's Tārīkh.
B: Biographer among Tabiin (Story Received From Eyewitness)
* Saʿīd ibn al-Masīb al-Makhzūmī (d. 94 AH), a famous Tābiʿī and one of the teachers of Ibn Shihab al-Zuhri. His traditions are quoted in the Six major hadith collections, and in the Sīra works of Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Sayyid al-Nās, and others.
* Abū Fiḍāla ʿAbd Allāh ibn Kaʿb ibn Mālik al-Anṣārī (d. 97 AH), his traditions are mentioned by Ibn Ishaq and al-Tabari.
* Abbān ibn Uthmān ibn Affān (d. 101-105 AH), the son of Uthman. His traditions are transmitted through Malik ibn Anas in his Muwaṭṭaʾ, the Ṭabaqāt of Ibn Sa'd, and in the histories of al-Tabari and al-Yaʿqūbī.
* ʿĀmir ibn Sharāḥīl al-Shaʿbī (d. 103 AH), his traditions were transmitted through Abu Isḥāq al-Subaiʿī, Saʿīd ibn Masrūq al-Thawrī, al-Aʿmash, Qatāda, Mujālid ibn Saʿīd, and others.
* Al-Qāsim ibn Muḥammad ibn Abī Bakr (d. 107 AH), another grandson of Abu Bakr. His traditions are mainly found in the works of al-Tabari, al-Balathuri, and al-Waqidi.
* Abū Ishāq al-Fazarī (d. 186 AH) wrote Kitāb al-Siyar
* Abaan ibn Uthman ibn Affan, the son of Uthman wrote a small booklet.
* Hammam ibn Munabbih, a student of Abu Hurayrah
* Asim Ibn Umar Ibn Qatada Al-Ansari
* Ma'mar Ibn Rashid Al-Azdi, pupil of Al-Zuhri
* Abdul Rahman ibn Abdul Aziz Al-Ausi, pupil of Al-Zuhri
* Muhammad ibn Salih ibn Dinar Al-Tammar was a pupil of Al-Zuhri and mentor of Al-Waqidi.
* Hashim Ibn Urwah ibn Zubayr, son of Urwah ibn Zubayr, generally quoted traditions from his father but was also a pupil of Al-Zuhri.
* Ya'qub bin Utba Ibn Mughira Ibn Al-Akhnas Ibn Shuraiq Al-Thaqafi
* Abu Ma'shar Najih Al-Madani.
* Ali ibn mujahid Al razi Al kindi.
* Al-Bakka'iِِ was a disciple of Ibn Ishaq and teacher of Ibn Hisham and thus forms a very important link in Sira between two great scholars.
All of them were before Ibn Hisham so you can compare their books with his. There is other Authors/Historians who lived in the same Era like :
* Al-Waqidi, whose surviving works "Kitab alTarikh wa al-Maghazi" (Book of History and Campaigns) and Futuh al-Shamhave been published.
* Salama ibn Al-Fadl Al-Abrash Al-Ansari, pupil of Ibn Ishaq
* Abu Isa Muhammad Al-Tirmidhi wrote compilations of Shamaail (Characteristics of Muhammad)
* Ibn Sa'd wrote the 8-volume work called Tabaqat or The Book of the Major Classes; he was also a pupil of Al-Waqidi.
* Imam al-Bayhaqi, wrote Dala'il al-Nabuwwa (Proof of Prophethood).
3). Prophet biography is not holly book
Jay Smith he compared the biography of the prophet (sirat Rasulullah) with the Four Gospel. These Gospels that contain biographies and sayings of Jesus, are the holy books for the Christians.
Jay Smith ridiculed the biography of the Prophet Muhammad which he falsely accused written 200 years after prophet death, while the Bible was superior because it was written for 60-110 years.
Well the sirah rasululah (prophet biography), as explained earlier, start being written by three of his companion after the prophet death. Muslim do not make too much noise about this early writing.
Unlike the Christian who consider the four Gospels, which are Jesus biografi as holly book, the Muslims never think of the prophet's Muhammad biography as a holy book .... hahaha.
For Muslims, a biography or Sirat Rasulullah is not a holy book, it is only a book on the history of the prophet's life... Hahaha. Only Christian made a biography as holly book... Hahaha.
4). Only the Quran is holly book for Muslims
The only thing called the holy book in Islam is the Quran, the book that contains the word of Allah. Something like the quran, a revelation from or word of God, does not exist in Christianity. That the Quran is the word of God is very clearly asserted in the Qur'an. There are several verses and this one of them. QS. Al-Waqiah (77-80)
”Indeed the Qur'an is a very noble reading, in a preserved book (Lohmahfuz), it does not touch it except those who are sanctified. Descended from the Lord of the worlds”
Christianity does not have a revealed sacred book like the Quran. All Gospels are like hadith of Jesus (biografi and saying about Jesus, not words of God). In the four Gospels, you will not found Jesus saying that these Gospels are the word of God. Jesus did not know that there were four gospels, moreover, there were hundreds of gnostic gospels and pseudo Apocrypha.
5). Gospels are not written by eyewitness
Jay Smith repeatedly saying that Mathew and John are Gospel writer who are eyewitness and Luke And Mark received from eyewitness. Oh ... really, well you can find picture like this in the internet. This picture made by Bible experts who understands languages and writing styles used by Bible writers.
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That figure shows the four gospels all written by many people from unknown sources and they copy each other. With the copy paste history like that, how it is possible Mathew and John gospel both written by eyewitnesses ???. Can you explain that Mr. Smith .... hahaha.
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Did Luke Skywalker really exist
It's interesting how Jay Smith can sit here and say that Prophet Muhammad did not exist. Yet, when he debates against Muslims, Jay takes the stance that the Prophet DID EXIST, but his message is false... So, which is it Jay???
"The more they whine, well, we've got cheese for that!" Yes, Al-Fadi! 😂👏
The most uninspiring unoriginal name ever. I know, I will name my child the most common name on the planet on purpose because my boy is special and unique...
... you may as well call the child Carbon Copy, or NPC for all Mohammed is worth as a name.
@@lokiopensloloc5680 😄😄
You're wrong about that, at the time in question this name was unknown:
afaik the name Mohammed was never used before early 7th century.
we are to believe that an oler pagan arab came up with this totaly new name for his fatherless grandchild...
around 630 ce MHMT appears on a coin an after that more often.
@@slippingsnake thank you for the information but I was only making fun of the name's popularity today. It seems... very fanboyesque.
I always think it's strange that people the existence of Jesus despite the first person accounts and the second person commentary from secular sources, yet there's more evidence for Jesus than Socrates and few people question his existence.
These guys better watch their backs unfortunately.
These days the line between free speech and hate has blurred so much that most people won't even think of a topic as this one . Yet questioning if Christ even lived seems to be a daily occurrence. The one thing that myself and other Christians seem to be lacking is the devotion to have our faith guide every movement of our lives. Until we Christians live a more devoted life to Jesus we will just have to get use to others treating us as weekend faith warriors 🙏, and I'm not good with that
@@MrJpm1989 forgive them, they know not what they do.
Why? Isn't that supposed to be the religion of peace? Besides, Jesus Christ is being mocked and reviled openly and unabashedly all the time without any fear or repercussions. What does that tell you about their tolerance or rather intolerance?
@@derekjohn4412 yes you so rite but as Christians we honestly don't show our devotion and absolute surrender to our religious beliefs as do others. When someone attacks the Muslim or Jewish faith it is an attack not only on their religious beliefs but their way of life that makes it so intense and absolute.
@@MrJpm1989 There can be no such thing as blurred speech If you have true freedom, With true freedom everyone's opinions are allowed no matter how much others may disagree.
A great episode - no-one should take these books seriously.
Seriously bro ?
Lol
@@shahablodhi4978 ......................
A book that deny the existence of a very prominent and most influential person in the world like Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) should not be taken seriously. Or it must be rejected outrightly. It means that it is garbage. The purpose is just to gain profit. -11-17-23
But they should take the biographies of muhamed from the 8th century for real??
150 years after he died
Lol
Great commentary. We need to prayer and love our Muslim friends so they can come to the living God and His holy book.
Do you think bible is preserved?
@@sheeshabedin1379 the Bible is the Word of God.. It is the most reliable book in history.... Because it is His Story.
@@rodhorgan Just come to the point. I am doing my own research and coming across many contradictions in bible.( Not blindly following so called Muslim and Christian scholars) They are naturally going to be biased about their belief,that I understand. But I highly recommend you to do your own research if you want to find the truth. One advice- “Remember truth is always the truth even if no one knows, falsehood is always false even if everyone believes”.
@@sheeshabedin1379 to see the truth of the Bible you must read it through the correct lens. Only with the Holy Spirit and faith does the truth of Gods Word became living and any supposed contradictions or misconceptions iron out. GOD bless you.
@@rodhorgan 😂😂 😂😂
2 things i have observed here:
1 everything that was written about Mohamed is uncertan but what was written abou Jesus is true for sure
2 this is an Apple paid commercial, because each of these guys have an Apple laptop on the table but only one of them uses it.
So Jesus killed the fig tree for no reason other than it bore no fruit out of season. Obviously some anger management needed there, even if he was God.
@@tonydarcy1606 hahaha! God can do anything he wants and he'll show you just how powerful he is when he takes away your life.
any chance of Pfander films learning to link series of films? .... I was looking for DID MUHAMMAD EXIST? (#2) etc. and I can't find them
"In every man sleeps a prophet, and when it wakes there is a little more evil in the world." - Emile M. Cioran
Were Stalin, Hitler and Mao Zedong prophets too?
please get more people to look into Islam and find for themselves the lies within. please encourage this!
please help Islam spread faster!
keep up these vids. thanks 👍🏽.
Haha yeah, they have no idea, they are just bringing more believers to Islam.
Around 19% Arabs no longer believe in i-slam
All religions are lies.
Muhammad or no Muhammad, God loved and protected Hagar and Ishmael. Muslims now own Egypt, Hagar's home.
'And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee, Behold I have blessed thee and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly, twelve Princes shall he beget and I will make him a great nation. Genesis 17. Ishmael means,' God hears'. When it comes to, ' Thou shalt not commit idolatry' Muslims obey this best however, you won't find The Ten Commandments in The Koran. When you look at all their beautiful calligraphy and art, you won't find faces. Mind you their dictator type leaders display their own faces all over the place.
@@freyamckenzie5583Sammy Hagar?
No wonder that Muslims are forbidden to question the koran, the Bible has not had that luxury and has been subject to every level of critical studies that there is for over a hundred years. With all the authors being so far north of Mecca it makes sence that the original holy city that they had to face towards when they prayed was Petra. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Brett Christoffel
Let me correct your ignorance Muslims are encouraged to ask questions I know because I studied the Quran and we were always asking questions.But Quran is so perfect and perfectly preserved,it is not a written book and it does not have any authors,a human author,Where as the Bible is so corrupted man over the years have changed the Bible.
@@farookdinaully8029 There is nothing perfect about the Quran, at all. That's an insult to perfect. If the Quran is perfect so is the essay that I wrote in 3rd grade. The Bible has never been changed and that is easily provable with all the manuscript evidence we have, you've been taught many lies my friend, many lies!
@@sticky1571
You wrote "you have been taught many lies my friend,many lies."
Even as a non Christian I studied the Bible with an open heart ,with respect and to find out the truth for myself. I found out there are many hundreds of denominations holding different opposite views from one another.Each denomination can write their own version of the Bible,there has been so many versions of the Bible in recent years,Bible is corrupted and riddled with inconsistencies.I can give you many examples if you challenge me.
@@farookdinaully8029 Read my comment again, I said we have tons of manuscript evidence proving without a doubt that the Bible has never been changed. We know what the Bible looked like during ancient times (both Old and New Testament) and guess what? It’s the same one we have today. Same message that Jesus is the divine Son of God who died on the cross for our sins and rose again on the third day. You don’t like this because it goes against the Quran, but the Quran came 600 years after the Bible so honestly I don’t think you should look at the Bible as if it’s in error, you should look at the Quran and start wondering why does it contradict everything that came before it…
It’s not as if Muhammad actually knew Jesus or the disciples of Jesus, or the Old Testament prophets. He had absolutely no connection to any of them, yet makes a self claim that he is one of them… quite interesting… especially after Jesus warned of false prophets who would come after him. Jesus being crucified is a historical fact, yet Islam denies it, Islam goes against history.
And I find it interesting that you would even dare say the Bible has been changed or tampered with, when your own sources say that Qurans were burned, verses went missing, verses were eaten by sheep etc. Yet you still go around claiming the Quran is perfect, there’s no way you truly believe this do you? And let’s not act like there aren’t different types of Muslims who interpret Islam differently and even attack and kill each other every day because they feel like the others aren’t true Muslims. Just throw away all of this, act like it doesn’t exist, and attack Christianity right? I guess…
According to the Old Testament, the Messiah (who would be God in human flesh - Isaiah 9:6), would come into this world, suffer and die for our sins, and be raised to life again (Isaiah 53). This sure sounds like the New Testament doesn’t it? Sounds exactly like Jesus to me… he came and fulfilled these prophesies perfectly. With that said, there was no need for another prophet to come after Jesus, because he died for our sins once and for all, drawing anyone who believes in him and follows him into an eternal relationship with the one true God.
“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.” - Hebrews 1:1-2. I appreciate you taking the time to read and reply to these messages, but these facts cannot be ignored. If you really value truth, and value the fate of your soul I strongly suggest that you follow the one who loved you enough to suffer a horrific death for all the sins that you’ve ever committed.
The true God is just, meaning he won’t just sweep sin under the rug as if it never happened, it is evil, therefore it will be punished. We can either accept the loving sacrifice of Jesus, who laid down his own perfect life for the sake of our peace, or we can pay for it by suffering ourselves in hell; I know which one I’m going to choose. We are all unclean before a holy God, and the only way we are purified is through his Son. And what did his Son say? “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” - John 14:6.
@@sticky9k
Bible was revealed first that make sense as Jesus came first before Muhammad p.b.u.t both.
Quran never said Bible is corrupted but it rather says some people put in verses and claim these verses are from God Almighty.
The Quran has one version compare to the Bible has different books indicating that many people have contributed later on in its making thus corrupting the original message, men have over years has changed the Bible with additions and deletions,Quran confirms the revelation of the Bible it doesn't confirm its reliability and credibility.
Bible is a collection of books written by so many unknown authors over hundreds of years,Bible never claims itself to be the word of God, there doesn't exist one single hand written original, we don't even have the first copies of the original we just have copies copies of copies.We don't know anything who wrote the Bible the church ascribed the names of Mark,Mathew,Luke and Luke to texts much later.These texts were not in the Bible originally and they first became authoritative( (approuved by church)late in the 2nd.century AD.
The Gospels are all written in Greek and there is no indication of any Hebrew originals, which rules out that the authors could be anyone among the followers of Jesus who spoke Aramaic.Both Jesus and his disciples had no education and were illiterates as most of their contemporaries.
All doctrines of modern Christianity are made by men,the trinity,divine sonship of Jesus,original sin and atonement.
Dr Jay, if Muhammad did not exist
1) why is there schism between Sunni and Shia as to who should succeed him?
2) Roughly what's the range of dates Islam is created and did the schism date fall within this range of dates?
I'm a Christian myself and would like to be able to answer this question if my Muslim friends ever ask me. Thank you.
1-it is worst than schism but succession greed wars and murder 2-abd al muttalib grand father of muhammed was the custodian of kabaa during idol worshpping from ishmaels linege as qureysh 4 th leader way bfr schisim (wikipedia) they were all jewish tribes
u really believe this clown? Muhamad is well recorded historically, even the way he showers and daily habits, wars have waged because of his death
@@artregeous how can you be sure the grandfather of Abd mutallib as Muhammad did not exist
i cant be sure wheter muttalip was exist or not but scriptures clearly states that he was custodian of kaba during idol worshipping to hubal and 365 deity during such times human sacrifice was common even muhammeds father requested to be sacrificed . in bible and talmut there are scriptures points out human sacrifice requested by god worshipped in particular periods which many people regardless of their worship in such fashion preserved their religious status as prophets of chriistian and judaic god lol beside islam
Also, how can a lot of Arabs ( Quraish and Hashemites ) say that they are he's grandsons ? They have like family trees, and they keep the names of their accenctors, and it goes back to Mohammad...
77, my father an Aramco employee, I grew up in Saudi Arabia. I learned to speak Arabic to correctly read the Qu'ran. It's nothing like any translation I've read. It's folly for Westerners to try to understand the mindset of Middle Easterners.
This like writing the history of the United States in 1976 by writers living in Europe Russia or elsewhere.
Everybody and anybody living TODAY has exactly the same historical resources available to them for research regardless of where they live. The difference is to what depth you take your research, for some people the book's title is all they care about for others even the chemical composition of the paper and inks must be examined before the data is validated.
It the same thing with Christian. The Bible was written in 325 by a drunken Roman citizen priest about a guy from the Middle East. The Bible was since then rewritten at least 3 time to fit the current Christian narrative. The letter J was created in 1524 the Christian don’t even know what is Jesus real name
1776 taskandpurpose.com/history/the-united-states-was-called-the-united-colonies-until-sept-9-1776/
@@billtuqoise1343 Not true, as many historical resources only exist at the locations where the history took place, which requires travel to those locations.
@@321thach Nice try, but “whataboutism” doesn’t fly here.
The three pillars of Islam ☪️: Muhammad, Mecca 🕋, and Quran were still work I’m progress sometime around the 9th Century.
Very interesting! But believers are not interested in facts - they want to believe.
Indeed.
Reviewing some of these comments, where each acolyte spews forth some arbitrary dicta from his Book, is like watching a fight between Popeye and Goofy.
Ikr??? They say stuff like " immaculate conception" lol nect they'll be saying, like, the entire universe was immaculately conceived, like it just appeared out of nowhere?, sure thing guys smh 😜
@@bigwig2659 In the Middle Ages, and even later (eg., good King James, the Bible translator)...they would bring serious Court charges for being a witch. the penalty being burned alive. James burned hundreds of women. Even to acknowledge that it is possible to be a witch blows the whole circus shit show out of the water.
Hey @chuck let’s say u r given 2 options. One side tells u worship only one God, your creator and the other side tells you the creator is 3 person in 1 and that one of them is a human being conceived, lived in a womb , delivered and walked the earth and ate, slept, shit prayed to his God??? and then was killed. Even as a fifth grader ( not Hs, college, graduate or post) which one would you choose?
@@moosman9115 Neither. I have been given two ridiculous options, and so decline them both. But in the Middle Ages I would have been tortured for it, and perhaps even nowadays too in some backwater hicksville
@@direktorpresident yes indeed. Science is the new religoon, and if tou question ots doctrine you're gonna feel some heat for sure."What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun". Ecclesiastes 1:9
Great video. Enlightening. Maybe you cover this in a later video but I would like to see the timeline in parallel with other known events, to understand the drivers of the decision making. For example, where does the defeat in France fit? What was happening in Islamic India at the time? Etc
That is his level of his knowledge, and his problem, Muhammad Rusullulahi existed very much and Allah send him to guide humanity from darkness to light. Ma sha Allahu
He didn’t exist until hundreds of years after the fact in stories to create power.
Originally it was Christian heresy, from the wrong area. You’ve been tricked by the father of lies, the Quran itself says your Allah is the greatest deceiver. You don’t need to rely on a faulty man, who said false prophets are poisoned and died of poisoning.
Please come home to Christ.
The evidence for the existence of Mohammed is slim. The evidence for the existence of Jesus, as anything like the person described in the New Testament, is also slim.
Regardless, even if both existed, that doesn't necessarily mean there is even a sliver of truth in what they said. Nor does it in any way support the existence of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic Creator God.
There is much more historical evidence for the existence of Jesus than there is for Muhammad, if you broaden your search you can surely come to see that. Nobody but the muslims wrote about Muhammad. Greco-Romans, Jews AND Christians wrote about Jesus, and plenty.
And please, let's not call God the 'Judeo-Christian-Islamic Creator God'. The god of Islam is NOT the same as the God of Judeo-Christianity. Have you watched none of these videos with your ears open?
Moses, Jesus and good ol’Mo are great myths with disastrous consequences for those of us who had to live through the Holocausts their religions inflicted
Bloodiest time in history was the 20th century. Once atheism gets into power it’s much more violent and dehumanizing.
There was a hadith where Prophet Muhammad forbid the writing down of the hadith, only quran was allowed to be written. The scholars explained it as a lack of paper, so emphasis was on the quran. Quran was both written and memorised. The written Arabic need to be compiled because there are 4 different ways of writing the verses. Compare that to the gospels. Written a few years after, not immediately like the Quran, in a language and writing, but only survived in different languages. Aramaic, to Greek then to Latin etc. Quran is still in the original old Arabic, unchanged since they were written and memorised. Even now, many Muslims memorised the quran.
The hadith may be corrupted but some of the predictions are so uncannily true. The appearance of the dajjal, Christians called anti-christ, is about someone who manipulate, lie and mislead people, which is widespread with the appearance of social media. Imam Mahdi's economy is similar to the proposed UBI, Universal Basic Income.
The destruction brought by people who elect stupid leaders,
Fitnah Sarra, is happening right in front of me. I thought it is impossible for people to elect stupid leaders, but it is happening right here in Sabah, the richest in Malaysia in oil, timber and oil palm by a huge margin, and yet the poorest in the world now, after being the poorest in Malaysia by a huge margin also for decades.
To give an example, more than 40% of oil come from Sabah, and yet 40 % of the poor are in Sabah, despite making up a population of only 12%. If Sabah were Independent, Sabah will be richer than Brunei because it's oil is many times more while having more productive land producing timber,oil palm and cocoa etc.
This is the power of the dajjal that promises heaven when actually delivering hell.
I am Christian, but your arguments are of merit and need to be considered.
I love Muslims because they are so passionate about their God. They obey God and submit to God heart and soul. And I'm dreadfully worried about my Muslim friends, because they've got THE WRONG GOD.
The post WW2 World was not based upon any invisible thing called GOD. It was built on the basis of liberty, fraternity, sovereignty, free speech, science and research.
The people those who follow Islam highly believe in blasphemy laws, which is anti-free speech.
@@JonSnow-pi6jb exactly right, most of them can’t question their faith out of fear.
How do you know that anybody has got the right god?
@@jeremypnet
I'm an atheist every inch. I meant if there were to be a God at all, and if He were just and merciful, He would cerainly have rebelled against this ideology. Islam is the ultimate insult to the concept of a God and human dignity.
As an Indian ex muslim I appreciate the sheikh plz stay alive.
How much do you really know about your Bible?
Let me share to you my findings after reading the entire Bible from cover to cover.
The Bible is composed of 2 divisions. One is the Old Testament. Two, the New Testament.
The Old Testament is the Hebrew Bible or book of Judaism which the Bible scholars copied and plagiarized word for word, and translated it into Greek. And afterward, shamelessly bragged themselves that they are inspired by the Holy Spirit. Inspired to what? To copy? To plagiarize? And to distort some of the Hebrew words to suit to their evil motive of portraying that all the prophecies in the Hebrew Bible are referring to Prophet jESUs (pbuh)?
This is a blatant deception by the Bible scholars to the readers, especially the christians. Instead of acknowledging the book of Judaism, they labeled it as the OT.
The supposed book of the christians is only the New Testament. But since the NT is not a book coming from God, the Bible scholars have to support it with the Hebrew Bible which is labeled as the OT. Why the NT is not from God? The NT is comprised of 3 parts:
1). The 4 gospels written by the 4 Greek scholars. But in the 4 gospels, there is not a single gospel that can be found in it. When we say gospel, it means good news/revelation/s from God sent down to Prophet Jesus (pbuh) to be preached to the children of Israel. But what is that gospel which Prophet jESUs (pbuh) preached? Where is it now? None. Nothing.
In other words, it is not recorded and preserved. Had it been recorded and preserved, we would have only one gospel in our hands today. And certainly, it is in Aramaic. What then are these 4 gospels? They are purely biography of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) - from his conception, to his birth, to his baptism at Jordan river for the atonement of his sins, to his healing and preaching activities, up to his crucifixion.
2). Mere ideas and opinions of Paul expressed in his letters to the different churches of: 1. Romans, 2. Hebrews, 3. Corinthians, 4. Galatians, 5. Colossians, 6. Philippians, 7. Ephesians, 8. Thessalonians.
Paul also expressed his mere ideas and opinions in his letters to the different individuals like: 1. Timothy, 2. Titus, 3. Philemon, 4. James, 5. John, 6. Judas, 7. Peter. He also wrote his ridiculous fictional diary called the book of Acts.
3). The dream of John which he dreamed after writing his so-called gospel of John at around 150 years after the alleged death of Prophet jESUs (pbuh). One night he dreamed a dream. And when he woke up, instead of letting it pop into thin air, he put it into writing and labeled it as the book of Revelations. But the labeling is deceptive and very inappropriate. It must be a book of Fantasy. His dream is nothing but fantasy. Reading it is like watching a Walt Disney movie.
So, we can safely say that the christians have no book of religion at all. Hence, Christianity is an empty religion. Empty religion means zero salvation. -12-17-23
Stunning and Brave.
So the first biographer of Muhammad, who hated the jews, was called
Ibn Ishaq
Sounds like Isaac to me
Ibn Ishaq (whose work is lost) wrote more than a ***hundred years*** after Mohammed was said to have died. It's like us today starting to write about The First War with no earlier mentions.
Ishaq is the Arabic form of Isaac and he is one of the prophets Muslims believe.
Whether he existed or not...., it is really immaterial to me as a FOLLOWER of YAHSHUA HAMASHIACH! I respect their stance although I'm vociferously against what LIES they throw against the YAHSHUA of the Bible whom I PRAISE, HONOR, EXALT, ADORE, GLORIFY and WORSHIP!
I love you guys...keep up the good work! The Lord bless you!
There is scientific miracles in the Qur'an, you can even search it up. :)
@@adina_nyx yeah yeah even ali dawah called it bullshit altough that was one of the main reasons he converted to islam but after studying he realized its nothing but bullshit claims made by lying muslims
@@adina_nyx ........................
Watch "There Is No Clash" by Clare, and be enlightened about the scientific miracles of the Qur'an. -12-18-23
Excellent material and information that everyone needs to learn
If you look towards the Roman Church for the origins of Islam, you might find something.
Good conversation. But the way Christ's existence was taken for granted and brushed aside makes the discussion devoid of rational thinking
Um, what does that have to do with anything?
There is several reference outside the Bible about Jesus, that he exist. And in those text he is not the Christ, but instead an insurrector, a thorn in the eye of the roman and jews community.
So yes Jesus have exist and yes he have been nailed to the cross according to archelogic evidence
The life of Christ has more 3rd-party evidence than the life of Shakespeare. And Muhammad, apparently.
All of which is beside the point of what was being talked about in THIS conversation.
Star-wars intro is so good
Isn't it curious whenever you see Muslims in the comments, you never see them addressing the subject in the video?
SOOO..600,000 TO 7,000 WHICH IS REALL 2,000 AND ITS.STILL EXTREEMLY STUPID?????
Bible believers arguing about the credibility of the Quran is a joke in itself.
How so?
@@stevemeszaros5132 How so? Take the story of Noah's Ark. Not only is it a rewrite from more ancient stories, but you actually believe that 2 of everything that crawled, creeped, walked or flew spent 3 or more months on a boat? There would be no room for food on a vessel of those dimensions, and if there was the manure would run into 'tons' daily... all for 8 people to shovel. Unless God somehow made them all not eat or shit... which is stretching the fable even further. This is just 1 example, there are hundreds if you take all those stories literally like Muslims and a lot of Christians do.
@@wwsuwannee7993 your objections have been dealt with very convincingly many times by Christian apologists. Your just ignorant of this apparently.
Meanwhile you believe in the astonishingly unsupported theory of evolution!
Nevertheless believe what you like, it's your fate.
Really? @ suwannee but the question of the humans' souls is of paramount importance or else we have just wasted our short lives on earth,don't u agree?
@@hjhjuliaabdullah9393 I never said I didn't believe in God or an afterlife. My point is that most of the stories in the Old Testament(which is common to all 3 of the Abrahamic religions), and related texts contradict themselves, and a lot of them are just plain evil. Why did "god" harden pharoes heart after every plague in Exodus just so he could send another? Culminating in the death of every first born child in the nation. Look at all the genocides that were commanded by "god" afterwards. Read the Book of Job...what kind of "god would do that to a man and his family, just on a wager with, of all people, Satan? There is no father on this planet that would send one of his children to suffer in Hell for all eternity, no matter how bad they might have been. A "god" that would do such things is not one I care to worship or give my soul to.
So basically y’all pick and choose which dates you accept as true and reasonable, but when the timeline disrupts what you view as reasonable- you call things into question. If these gaps are problematic, and the timeline doesn’t make sense, why use ANY of these dates at all? What is your criteria for accepting or questioning any of these dates?
I like the takedown
thru historical evidence.
It's not like some
theological point that muslims
can weasel their way out of.
@BILLY MANDALAY it shifts their programed responses which have been or are steeped in polemics which are oriented at attacking the opponent not defending their beliefs (apologetics). You have noticed that they use polemics to misdirect and avoid responding to the information put forward in these videos. Egnor their attacks on Faith (Christians, Hindus and sometimes Jews with once in a while Buddhists) it's part of their prepackaged cherry picked or rabbit tracks given them by others. They lack personal study or research. They are lazy in learning Hebrew or Greek and most rely on the King James translation. Just like the depth of personal inquiry is thin so to is their ability to pay attention and both of those are just a smidgen wider than their training in apologetics. Repeat the challenge - Deal with the information presented in the video.
In the end Abdools have nothing but violence and indoctrination, kinda like Marxists
@@universalflamethrower6342
Sure thing. It begins to appear now!
@Mr wonderful
Indeed after the beginning of 7th century, that is almost two centuries after the prophet died (632 AD), data that conform to the standard tradition about the prophet of Islam began to emerge, but there was completely none of them before it. There is a complete two centuries silence and gap and this is, but staggering to the faith in question.
@Mr wonderful the overall effort is to find the historical accounts, Why is needed. The standard Islamic narrative uses supporting 'non' Arab reports but put forward with the S.I. narrative. We know that this narrative comes out of the 9th 10th and 11th centuries and edited back - redacted back to the early 6th century CE. What is the historical gravitas of Sebeo's account?
When was it first noted?
Are there other copies of the account?
Any variation between copies?
Finally is the reality that demands to be answered, what other linguistic clues point to the time of writing?
There are a number linguiste shifts during that early period of Arabic history, What are those linguistic fossils?
Fascinating, I found this searching for historical documentation of existing proof for the Quran.
I figured if the Bible has scrolls housed in museums that match the Bible surely the Quran has similar ancient writings on scrolls.
And now I find this, writings that began over 200 years later by people that weren't even there from thousands of miles away, in multiple books it appears.
Other than my additional curiosity I'd say I'm about finished with my research in my first attempt, wow!
I'll check on the other videos you say were being produced in this series.
Thanks!
God bless!
Exactly what the early Roman Catholic Church did to the New Testament.
Rewrote what they've been pushing and burned as much of the original texts.
Liars the lot of them.
There's one scripture that didn't wait to get written, unlike the scriptures of Islam and Christianity. I was written during the times of the 'Masters'. The original first (and a second) still exists, from which we have printed copies, but sadly a digital copy of the original hand written text hasn't apparently been taken -- would be a tremendous loss to humanity if something were to happen to the original without imaged copies available.
Who knows what that scripture is?
Without constant revelation, we will only have lies and wishful thinking.
Great work, thanks guys
What?!? Some sober facts? Great. Was that so bad? Thanks for taking us all to school.
Any historical record Muhhamed ever actually got the Koran?
I thought the quran was first written down and by the first caliph. That's what the traditions say.
the caliph only there to be warlord
No more caffeine for Jay. Only person in this world i know that talks faster than him is an angry Puerto Rican woman. He’s so hard to follow
Great summary. Can we translate this and subtitle it to other languages?
Yes, feel free to translate it and re-post it on your own channels.
@@pfanderfilms Thank you. God bless your ministry.
Now we can firmly wait for the response from John Wick ;" christians believe in 3 gods" 😂😂
Sorry your intellect is a bit low to understand
@@ernestbailey6617 u mean illiterate one?
@Fighting For The Faith In the Bible, in the gospel of John, Jesus declared that there is only one TRUE God, his Father. Jesus is God's only son. The trinity doctrine came into existence in 321-325 A.D. at the council of Nicea, led by Emperor Constantine. He was pressured politically to unite Christians and pagans together under one banner, he had to yield to many bishops from the empire (including the bishop of Rome--who 200+ years later become the head of the Roman Catholic church) to allow the trinity doctrine (one God, three co-eternal persons) into the creed. True bible believing Christians before then only believe in the one true God and his son, is Jesus. Also remember, a lot of early Christians were converted from Judaism. The Hebrews, including the disciples of Jesus only believed in one God.
@@seektruth1379 Arius of Alexandria was a proponent of this same belief you also support and it was heretical to the Trinitarian belief of the church fathers. Constantine wanted the issue settled once and for all and called the council of Nicea to study and settle the two opposing views. You are wrong to say it "came into existence in 321-325A.D." If using the Bible ALONE, and allowing it to be read as written, the Trinity doctrine and many others are easily identified from its pages.
Contrary to what you are attempting to purport, Trinitarians have always and still believe in one God who has manifested Himself as three persons co-eternal and co-equal.
The Arians, past and present twist the scriptures to make them fit their preconceived beliefs rather than let the Bible speak for itself.
For example, they use the term "firstborn" of all creation (Col. 1:15) to teach Jesus was the first "created" by God but firstborn isn't the same as first created. In fact, Greek has separate words for each of these two words so first born obviously does not mean "first created". Firstborn means "first in rank, or heir". This cross references with Heb. 1:2 which says Jesus is the "heir of all things".
Another case in point is that the Arians claim Proverbs 8:22-31 is Jesus speaking saying "Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of His way ... I was beside Him as His master worker". They further claim that Jehovah created Jesus who then created everything else. Arians took these few verses completely out of context. The entire first ten chapters of Proverbs of which Prov. 8 is part of is discussing "Wisdom" and how great it is to acquire. Did wisdom not exist until God created it? Surely wisdom is as eternal as God is Himself.
These are only a few of Arius' errors from having a preconceived view of scripture.
@@johnc.8298
Brother John,
(Christ) In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. - Colossians 2:3
Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. - 1Corinthians 1:24
Read John 14 carefully. The Comforter is Jesus in the Spirit and not another person. The disciples wasn't expecting another person other than Jesus, they were just confuse how will Jesus show himself to them in another way if he will ascend to heaven. Then Jesus said, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."
Ask yourself, why didn't any writings of Arius survived until this day? And all of his teaching and his follower's teachings were burnt?
Because they were not teaching that Christ was created, they were teaching that he was begotten (born from, came forth) of God. Christ is fully divine like his Father, that is why he is God by nature, however, his Father is the TRUE God in personality. Christ is God's only Son. Satan wanted to be like God, he will always try to confused the human race to not accept that God has a dear Son. He will manipulate men saying that the Son and the Father are co-eternal, taking away the relationship between the Father and the Son.
The history we have regarding Arius has been altered by those that wanted his teachings not be spread. Arius followed the school of thought from Lucian of Antioch, the Syriac Christian that hold the teaching to read the scripture as it reads. We truly have Lucian to thank for the King James Bible, while the churches in Alexandria/Egypt were corrupting the sacred texts by adding their own pagan philosophy.
The Celtics, Goths, Waldensians, and other followed the same principle. These were the 'Church in the Wilderness' that held the true Bible. They did not hold the trinity doctrine from Rome and its other pagan teachings that were allowed to creep into the church. They worship the true God and believe that he has a son, a real divine son and that same son came down to earth and born of a woman, having our fallen nature, conquered sin and never sinned, always obedient to his Father, that is Righteousness by Faith. He laid down his life and died and was raised up by God, his Father. It is this resurrected life that he will give to those that believed in HIM (God, his Father) and the Son he sent down to earth. Because it is LIFE ETERNAL that the Father gives to all that believe, and that life is through His Son, John 17:3.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - 1Timothy 2:5