daaaamn after years playing the game and finishing it plenty of times, I never saw the move at 4:12 - 4:14 incredible how after so many years I still manage to discover something new about the game each time
That’s something I will eventually do, at least for Shenmue 2, and maybe even the prototype version, which seems to differ from the final game. I can’t however say the same for Shenmue 3. I have only played it twice between 2019 and 2020 and the combat did not catch my interest the same way the Dreamcast games did. Maybe I’ll give it another chance someday and will love it so much I make videos about it? I honestly can't see that happening. 😅
Funny you say that, that's how I originally edited the scenes with Fuku-san, but I later changed my mind because I thought I was overusing the joke and edited them out. 😅
This is kind of an obscure action, as it’s only available in Shenmue 1 and it can only be used under specific circumstances. Simply press the throw button (B on Dreamcast and Xbox, Circle on Playstation) while behind the opponent (you must be close and the opponent must be vulnerable, meaning he’s not attacking). However, there’s some additional info you might want to know before trying it out in game. If you know Ryo’s moveset, you may have realized these are the same conditions as Back Twist Drop (that suplex-like throw). In Shenmue 1, if the opponent still has enough health and can’t be KOed by Back Twist Drop, only then the game triggers the kick push, otherwise (if the opponent has low health) the game will perform Back Twist Drop. This effectively means you will never be able to use the kick push on weak opponents, and you will not be able to use Back Twist Drop on strong opponents unless you weaken them first. This was changed in Shenmue 2, where the kick push was removed (probably deemed pointless by the developers) and Back Twist Drop can be used in both scenarios, with two slightly different animations triggered depending if the enemy withstands the throw move or not. About the specific clip I show at the start of the video, you may also notice Fuku-san is not showing his back to Ryo, but somehow I was still able to perform the kick push. That’s caused by a glitch in the game where, if you block an incoming high kick (like the one Fuku-san used) and immediately run towards the opponent and press the throw button, the game will act as if you’re behind the opponent, even though it wasn’t the case. If you wait a little longer before pressing the throw button, then the game will not glitch out. One other thing I’ll mention is you can potentially lock the opponent into an infinite kick push chain by nailing the exact moment the enemy becomes vulnerable, but just before he retaliates. I kind of show that at the start of the video too, performing two kick push actions in a row, but doing that is extremely precise and also completely pointless!
i have a question if you're still answering them and it's if it's possible to actually battle against the untouchable enemies in shenmue 2? like the old man at the park because no matter what i do I can't hit them once
@@benditogames Sorry for the late reply, haven't checked these videos in a while. Like Matt said, you can get the occasional hit on Jianmin, I think with Twin Swallow Leap and Cyclone Kick (probably a bug), but Xiuying on the other hand can't be hit at all, no matter what you do. They were definitely coded like that and there's no "victory" outcome whatsoever. I did manage to "defeat" Jianmin once by messing with the game's memory, but the game will just act like the sparring session is over or, in the case of the story spar fight, move to the next cutscene. I was never able to get the same results on Xiuying, but we can assume the game would just move to the next cutscene.
![Shenmue - How to juggle combo [Combat tutorial]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vmdku1dWgR0/mqdefault.jpg)
Man this battle system was ahead of its time. So much depth
True, and it had room to be improved upon in future iterations if SEGA hadn't given up on the franchise. Such a shame.
Amazing video guys just goes to show how polished the fighting system was back then
daaaamn after years playing the game and finishing it plenty of times, I never saw the move at 4:12 - 4:14 incredible how after so many years I still manage to discover something new about the game each time
A Shenmue 2 and 3 video would be cool. S2's combat differs a bit from S1, but S3 is a whole different animal
That’s something I will eventually do, at least for Shenmue 2, and maybe even the prototype version, which seems to differ from the final game.
I can’t however say the same for Shenmue 3. I have only played it twice between 2019 and 2020 and the combat did not catch my interest the same way the Dreamcast games did. Maybe I’ll give it another chance someday and will love it so much I make videos about it? I honestly can't see that happening. 😅
Shenmue III wasn’t a very good game. I loved Shenmue I and II, though.
this video is the evidence that shenmue 3's combat is hotdog water in comparison lmao
@@Bloodyshinta1. It’s not “hotdog water”, it’s Grade A SHIT.
Great tutorial!
Lan Di won’t stand a chance now! 💪
That damn Pedro
Thank you this makes the fighting easy I thought you could only dodge away from attacks
I'm very disappointed that you didn't take the opportunity to use "that move" against Fuku-san every time you cut back to sparring against him.
Funny you say that, that's how I originally edited the scenes with Fuku-san, but I later changed my mind because I thought I was overusing the joke and edited them out. 😅
Is it just me or did Shenmue kinda invent the one button counter attack that later was refined in both Sleeping Dogs and the Arkham games
Good video
All my years playing shemnue I never saw thiss
The camera angles sometimes kills me when executing moves. And I wish we could toggle switch between targets when fighting groups.
How do you do that kick where you kick the opponents back at 0:15?
This is kind of an obscure action, as it’s only available in Shenmue 1 and it can only be used under specific circumstances. Simply press the throw button (B on Dreamcast and Xbox, Circle on Playstation) while behind the opponent (you must be close and the opponent must be vulnerable, meaning he’s not attacking). However, there’s some additional info you might want to know before trying it out in game.
If you know Ryo’s moveset, you may have realized these are the same conditions as Back Twist Drop (that suplex-like throw). In Shenmue 1, if the opponent still has enough health and can’t be KOed by Back Twist Drop, only then the game triggers the kick push, otherwise (if the opponent has low health) the game will perform Back Twist Drop. This effectively means you will never be able to use the kick push on weak opponents, and you will not be able to use Back Twist Drop on strong opponents unless you weaken them first. This was changed in Shenmue 2, where the kick push was removed (probably deemed pointless by the developers) and Back Twist Drop can be used in both scenarios, with two slightly different animations triggered depending if the enemy withstands the throw move or not.
About the specific clip I show at the start of the video, you may also notice Fuku-san is not showing his back to Ryo, but somehow I was still able to perform the kick push. That’s caused by a glitch in the game where, if you block an incoming high kick (like the one Fuku-san used) and immediately run towards the opponent and press the throw button, the game will act as if you’re behind the opponent, even though it wasn’t the case. If you wait a little longer before pressing the throw button, then the game will not glitch out.
One other thing I’ll mention is you can potentially lock the opponent into an infinite kick push chain by nailing the exact moment the enemy becomes vulnerable, but just before he retaliates. I kind of show that at the start of the video too, performing two kick push actions in a row, but doing that is extremely precise and also completely pointless!
@@RichardPayne5 Thank you for explaining this and pointing this out it helps!
i have a question if you're still answering them and it's if it's possible to actually battle against the untouchable enemies in shenmue 2? like the old man at the park because no matter what i do I can't hit them once
You can get the odd hit but it's virtually impossible
@@mattoliver18 that's why I'm asking, is it like coded in that they will avoid every punch or is there some sort of trick to it
@@benditogames Sorry for the late reply, haven't checked these videos in a while. Like Matt said, you can get the occasional hit on Jianmin, I think with Twin Swallow Leap and Cyclone Kick (probably a bug), but Xiuying on the other hand can't be hit at all, no matter what you do. They were definitely coded like that and there's no "victory" outcome whatsoever.
I did manage to "defeat" Jianmin once by messing with the game's memory, but the game will just act like the sparring session is over or, in the case of the story spar fight, move to the next cutscene. I was never able to get the same results on Xiuying, but we can assume the game would just move to the next cutscene.