My favorite part of WGS is the new demon bane weapons. I think monster-specific weapons are cool and they give players more reasons to grind. I'm about to dive in and try my luck! RSN: BarnDawg18
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@Kaoz I must say your channel is hands down the best out there. I am fairly new so I have watched quite a few of them and they have helped so damn much thank yoy
And jagex for some reason added a demon to the small southwestern room that used to have only 2 made it so all 3 can aggro you, so nobody goes there obviously and that makes the others even more camped 😡
What worked for me for the final fight was I stopped switching gear and just focused on switching prayers. He switches his defensive prayers so much I still killed him with most of my supplies left.
he didnt swap for me at all. until I swapped my weapons. tested my second attempt using range only. he stuck using protect from range/melee for over 8 minutes.
@@garrettsmith6549 yea he has some funky mechanics. I died 3 times trying to keep up with swapping and kept missing my own prayers. So I stayed on melee and dropped him pretty quick
For the quest itself, it’s worth bearing in mind that it’s oooooold. The new top tier quests are great as there’s been a really solid foundation to build upon, WGS was one of the quests that helped lay those bricks.
@@ThisIsMyRUclipsAccount1 That time would be better spent on new ones IMO. This is just a nostalgia hit, a little jank here and there is part of it if anything.
@PraetexDesign As someone who never got very far in the RS2 days and never played the quest I would just prefer that they cook it well done. I guess I'll give it a go at some point, I am just too lazy to do quests for like the past year or so. Trying to get my 5th or 6th 99, I can't remember. Maybe the story is cool. I like the lore behind the gods in the game as it's pretty interesting. I wish they'd fix the jank in older quests tbh, they need another big project like project rebalance where they make QOL and other adjustments thay juat would make sense
The only part of the quest I struggled with was the fight against a certain mage who I won't spoil. 89 Mage, 90 Def, Ahrim's+ for gear. The special attacks were a little unforgiving considering he can also hit through prayer (except for the bomb mechanic that was EZ). Even when you handled them correctly you still sometimes took damage. Maybe I was doing something wrong?
I agree that this quest definitely didn't feel to be at grandmaster level or even at "very long" length but honestly that was my only issue with it I actually died twice by not paying attention: first I miscliked in the black knight catacombs without the armor and my character ran into the mages and my HP was instantly deleted and the second one was against Surok since I forgot water runes to counter his fire spells but even with that, It's one of my favourite boss fights ever, forcing you to use your magic abilities to the fullest even including spells casting alchemy mid fight And honestly, even with any flaws the quest may have, suddenly giving you 255 combats is one of the coolest things that the game has ever done. With regards of fighting Lucien I think it was better we didn't do it because even without the stone he was shown to be extremely powerful and now that he has it, it opens the door for Jagex to create the strongest boss monster ever, I'm actually nervous to face him in the future now THAT will be a true Grandmaster Challenge RIP the Slayer Masters, and after DS2 I see why they have us do all the killing, they SUCK at their job
When you are talking about the drop rates for godwars bosses, i think you are forgetting the fact that these are locked behind a KC and also have 255hp (bosses btw) compared with the tormented demons which have 600hp. I would even guess you spend much more in supplies killing tormented demons depending on your combat level, than doing these bosses, because you have the option to group with other players. Jagex needs to aknowledge that these demons are locked behind a "Grandmaster" quest, and so, their loot should be decent in comparison with other monsters that don't require you to invest in questing.
It definitely shouldn't be grandmaster level quest but was still really fun and exciting for me especially as this was the first big quest i was able to start and complete day 1. So cool running around with a bunch of other players trying to get through it as well xD really looking forward to the grand finale of this quest line! RSN Capt Falco
WGS was a good quest, but has no right being a GM quest. TD's drop table is fine, however I believe it is too long of a grind to get the uniques. RSN Murunix
Eh, I think WGS was, and should still be the bar for Grandmaster. Even if that means Sins of the father, and Beneath cursed sands each get promoted to GM too. And like Desert Treasure 2 maybe deserves to be a new tier of difficulty... Since it's head and shoulders above the others in difficulty. And the post quest content is minimal, that needs some changing. And the drop tables too Jesus, it's the only post quest content and it's drop tables are ass for its difficulty.
While guthix sleeps is my favorite quest, and it is not that long to even complete. It is nice. I like it aside the part of rampage of killing npcs left and right. The post quest is good, having the demons back in the game again is GREAT even if the drop tables rewards are that bad. RSN: Yuukazin
what are you talking about this was a long challenging quest, just because you rushed through it with your 99 stats doesnt mean its not a grandmaster tier quest. Finishing the last 25% of the final boss was quite something
I've been lucky enough to get 4 synapses from 700 kc so far. Made the ember light and now I'll definitely make the scorching bow. Can't wait to try em out
I've calced a few, and they are extremely similar dps. Neither is better for all tasks, it goes back and forth but they are usually within .2dps per second.
For Slayer I'd straight up use Venny bow if not using Konar. But bc SRA can hit 80s it feels chubkier. Emberlight 4tick speed and max hit in the low 60s might rival axe yeah
I think the quest wasn’t gm worthy. Even though I found the quest good and fun. Grinding the tormented demons after the quest is pretty fun imo as well. Rsn: wootcutowns
Rip Duradaddy. As someone who sucks at the game (me), it’s funny seeing how intense your inventory was for the Elemental boss. I think I only used 2 sips of brew and only had mid level weapon switches with hybrid armour no switches. As you said, much easier than the other grandmaster quests. RSN: Postman Ty
Hey Man! Quest was "ok"... I think it was all the hype behind it that made it "meh" after completing it... Not difficult whatsoever coming from a shitter. RSN - Extsi
Don't buff the drops. The three weapon upgrades make the grind worth it. All three weapons when they work will be a massive upgrade and will reduce slaying/skill training. I think the hours saved by increasing DPS is enough. We don't need 100,000 different enemies being cash machines.
There are multiple people who have 1000+ kc without a unique drop from tds and have lost literally 10m~ on supplies lol that's not fun and that's what creates the complaints. I however am a spooned boy and landed a claw + synapse within 70 kc
@@The261ride They forget that they had the money snake/Vorkath for years now to literally horde billions... If they can't afford to lose 10, 15, 20m in supplies, then have them grind a monster that is profitable.
@@halomlg117 haha np, and yeah, that's the issue! Luckily you sort of break even if you do go dry. Even then, the synapse is crashing so quickly that they're becoming less profitable
I hope Jagex puts Ghommal and Duradel back on their rightful places. No one has ever heard of Dudadel’s daughter, or the strong and masculine “Lady” Gnonock. It reeks of stupid story writing and political self-inserts.
I could be wrong but while guthix sleeps had a lot more lore related to the game in the original version so their deaths made sense back then, it’s kinda weird content to add to osrs imo because the story has changed with the new content that’s been added throughout the years
"With the recent loss of Ghommel and Duradel, their counterparts now relentlessly channel summon thrall in the form of X and Y in order to have them back in their lives even if it's strenuous " I'd be happy with
Osrs was really just meant to revert eoc, but to continue on with updates as if eoc never happened. That's what we wanted and that's what we got. You had to be there to know this
Osrs was really just meant to revert eoc, but to continue on with updates as if eoc never happened. That's what we wanted and that's what we got. You had to be there to know this
My favorite part of WGS is the new demon bane weapons. I think monster-specific weapons are cool and they give players more reasons to grind. I'm about to dive in and try my luck!
RSN: BarnDawg18
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@@KaozOSRS OH MY GOD! I'm on it
@Kaoz I must say your channel is hands down the best out there. I am fairly new so I have watched quite a few of them and they have helped so damn much thank yoy
The quest is the easy part. Finding a spawn that isn't camped already is the real challenge.
And jagex for some reason added a demon to the small southwestern room that used to have only 2 made it so all 3 can aggro you, so nobody goes there obviously and that makes the others even more camped 😡
super easy now with everyone going to dmm
Or getting a task
When they inevitably expand on the dragonkin and their lore, i really hope they add white dragons and brutal white dragons
Im waitin on Dragon Dragons
Barrows dragons
Abyssal dragons
Demon dragons?
Dragon boner
when talking about zammy you said you suggest taking a cannon base in case i run out of special attack, what did you mean by that?
What worked for me for the final fight was I stopped switching gear and just focused on switching prayers. He switches his defensive prayers so much I still killed him with most of my supplies left.
he didnt swap for me at all. until I swapped my weapons. tested my second attempt using range only. he stuck using protect from range/melee for over 8 minutes.
@@garrettsmith6549 yea he has some funky mechanics. I died 3 times trying to keep up with swapping and kept missing my own prayers. So I stayed on melee and dropped him pretty quick
bow and staffs effect is bugged against tormented demons currently, thats why they underperform.
Jagex QA tram btw 🥲
actually from what i heard also bow is working fine just jagex need to fix how stats are shown which is messed up.
For the quest itself, it’s worth bearing in mind that it’s oooooold. The new top tier quests are great as there’s been a really solid foundation to build upon, WGS was one of the quests that helped lay those bricks.
Sounds like they should have taken more time to make the quest better
@@ThisIsMyRUclipsAccount1 That time would be better spent on new ones IMO. This is just a nostalgia hit, a little jank here and there is part of it if anything.
@PraetexDesign As someone who never got very far in the RS2 days and never played the quest I would just prefer that they cook it well done. I guess I'll give it a go at some point, I am just too lazy to do quests for like the past year or so. Trying to get my 5th or 6th 99, I can't remember. Maybe the story is cool. I like the lore behind the gods in the game as it's pretty interesting. I wish they'd fix the jank in older quests tbh, they need another big project like project rebalance where they make QOL and other adjustments thay juat would make sense
The only part of the quest I struggled with was the fight against a certain mage who I won't spoil. 89 Mage, 90 Def, Ahrim's+ for gear. The special attacks were a little unforgiving considering he can also hit through prayer (except for the bomb mechanic that was EZ). Even when you handled them correctly you still sometimes took damage. Maybe I was doing something wrong?
I did it at 80 magic, its really avoiding the special attacks that matter
@@blackhawk989 yeah I thought I had it down but it's probably just a lack of deftness on my part. Aka I'm trash and need to git gud
Gwd bosses at least drop ~20k per kill to pay for supplies and a bit extra, men drop more loot per hour than TDs without uniques
I agree that this quest definitely didn't feel to be at grandmaster level or even at "very long" length but honestly that was my only issue with it
I actually died twice by not paying attention: first I miscliked in the black knight catacombs without the armor and my character ran into the mages and my HP was instantly deleted and the second one was against Surok since I forgot water runes to counter his fire spells but even with that, It's one of my favourite boss fights ever, forcing you to use your magic abilities to the fullest even including spells casting alchemy mid fight
And honestly, even with any flaws the quest may have, suddenly giving you 255 combats is one of the coolest things that the game has ever done. With regards of fighting Lucien I think it was better we didn't do it because even without the stone he was shown to be extremely powerful and now that he has it, it opens the door for Jagex to create the strongest boss monster ever, I'm actually nervous to face him in the future now THAT will be a true Grandmaster Challenge
RIP the Slayer Masters, and after DS2 I see why they have us do all the killing, they SUCK at their job
Thanks for the guide and information man!
How can you talk smack about the outrageously buff gnome that replaced the outrageously buff Ghommal?
When you are talking about the drop rates for godwars bosses, i think you are forgetting the fact that these are locked behind a KC and also have 255hp (bosses btw) compared with the tormented demons which have 600hp. I would even guess you spend much more in supplies killing tormented demons depending on your combat level, than doing these bosses, because you have the option to group with other players. Jagex needs to aknowledge that these demons are locked behind a "Grandmaster" quest, and so, their loot should be decent in comparison with other monsters that don't require you to invest in questing.
i made like 250m from about 300 krees no way smn making that much money from a failure like tormented demons without rngesus
and you need to understand that if their loot will be a good gp per hour their unique drops will drop in value
Huh. Your timing with my need to watch some osrs content is truly impeccable!
Thanks in advance for what I know is a good video!
I think while guthix sleeps being grandmaster is fine. Surok took me a few tries... especially since they made it where you couldnt use blood spells.
It definitely shouldn't be grandmaster level quest but was still really fun and exciting for me especially as this was the first big quest i was able to start and complete day 1. So cool running around with a bunch of other players trying to get through it as well xD really looking forward to the grand finale of this quest line!
RSN Capt Falco
When killing cerb, shouldn't the sword be on stab?
WGS was a good quest, but has no right being a GM quest. TD's drop table is fine, however I believe it is too long of a grind to get the uniques. RSN Murunix
Is it true the new weapons don't need charges after you create them?
It's BravoDelta13 (stream account) but you say his right hand when he is lifting the left..
Did you say we fight Sliske at the end of DT2?
Eh, I think WGS was, and should still be the bar for Grandmaster. Even if that means Sins of the father, and Beneath cursed sands each get promoted to GM too. And like Desert Treasure 2 maybe deserves to be a new tier of difficulty... Since it's head and shoulders above the others in difficulty.
And the post quest content is minimal, that needs some changing. And the drop tables too Jesus, it's the only post quest content and it's drop tables are ass for its difficulty.
what is the fps pugin you have right top at your screen?
i been trying to get used of solo zammy with new bow, it works great with elite void also as want pet off zammy.
While guthix sleeps is my favorite quest, and it is not that long to even complete. It is nice. I like it aside the part of rampage of killing npcs left and right. The post quest is good, having the demons back in the game again is GREAT even if the drop tables rewards are that bad. RSN: Yuukazin
Thanks for the guide! Got to get my hand on these new weapons
Rsn: Big Hot Lubs
10:25 wrong, bowfa can one shot vents
what are you talking about this was a long challenging quest, just because you rushed through it with your 99 stats doesnt mean its not a grandmaster tier quest. Finishing the last 25% of the final boss was quite something
Tell me how stats matter outside the Dark Squall and the final boss lmaoooooooooooo
This quest is free when you are not even max combat😂
Pretty sure you can get 200 drop on vents with bowfa too.
rsn carbug10 think itll go down soon in price?
Hello Kaoz, everyone here!
I've been lucky enough to get 4 synapses from 700 kc so far. Made the ember light and now I'll definitely make the scorching bow. Can't wait to try em out
Bow and the staff is bugged at tormented demons atm btw
Bow was fixed day 1 in hotfix and the staff is just not good. @@satrontr1379
Emberlight slaps hard at cerb!
Tds drop should be like zammy wines for irons. Glad they got rid of the Guams idk who thought that was a good idea
also makes sense if it was zammy wines since demons are affiliated with zammy.
or atleast zammy grapes.
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Thanks!
The quest is kinda funny because it says Grandmaster but It is so easy to finish.
RSN Makuanjero
Cannon base for special attack energy??? Can someone explain?
Red x instead of binding with special
i just got one on my ironman, which one you think i should make first, i heard the bow was broken. i still need to do kril and cerb btw
Emberlight better than soulreaper axe for demon slayer tasks?
I've calced a few, and they are extremely similar dps. Neither is better for all tasks, it goes back and forth but they are usually within .2dps per second.
For Slayer I'd straight up use Venny bow if not using Konar. But bc SRA can hit 80s it feels chubkier. Emberlight 4tick speed and max hit in the low 60s might rival axe yeah
I think the quest looks fun because i watched you do it live lol might do it after 99 crafting.
Rsn: da killas
rsn: Lhants. Great content, keep it up Kaoz.
I think the quest but especially the rewards are doing a great job to continue fleshing out the mid to late game sidegrades
bro!!!
with how many times i've searched for this over the past week, i would think youtube wouldn't have cucked you on the algorithm like this!!!
surok boss can easy hit 100+ thats why its GM
It’s grandmaster because of the absurd amount of quests required to even start the quest.
It was a fun quest, kinda wish they didn't kill off all the NPCs I liked though. RSN: Xenonexist
Kuramommy
I think the quest wasn’t gm worthy. Even though I found the quest good and fun. Grinding the tormented demons after the quest is pretty fun imo as well. Rsn: wootcutowns
Rip Duradaddy.
As someone who sucks at the game (me), it’s funny seeing how intense your inventory was for the Elemental boss. I think I only used 2 sips of brew and only had mid level weapon switches with hybrid armour no switches. As you said, much easier than the other grandmaster quests.
RSN: Postman Ty
Hey Man! Quest was "ok"... I think it was all the hype behind it that made it "meh" after completing it... Not difficult whatsoever coming from a shitter. RSN - Extsi
Don't buff the drops. The three weapon upgrades make the grind worth it. All three weapons when they work will be a massive upgrade and will reduce slaying/skill training. I think the hours saved by increasing DPS is enough. We don't need 100,000 different enemies being cash machines.
There are multiple people who have 1000+ kc without a unique drop from tds and have lost literally 10m~ on supplies lol that's not fun and that's what creates the complaints.
I however am a spooned boy and landed a claw + synapse within 70 kc
@@The261ride They forget that they had the money snake/Vorkath for years now to literally horde billions... If they can't afford to lose 10, 15, 20m in supplies, then have them grind a monster that is profitable.
@@The261ride Also, congrats and F you lmao
@@halomlg117 haha np, and yeah, that's the issue! Luckily you sort of break even if you do go dry. Even then, the synapse is crashing so quickly that they're becoming less profitable
9:35
Can't wait to complete the quest. The rewards are good upgrade and not that expansive / rare. Rsn michaelazar
14:17, because that's why the game has thrived. Joint decisions and listening to the community where sensible
pog
Gutty take nap, redditers madge. Typical osrs discourse.
The weapons suck ass and are extremely useless
I hope Jagex puts Ghommal and Duradel back on their rightful places. No one has ever heard of Dudadel’s daughter, or the strong and masculine “Lady” Gnonock. It reeks of stupid story writing and political self-inserts.
I could be wrong but while guthix sleeps had a lot more lore related to the game in the original version so their deaths made sense back then, it’s kinda weird content to add to osrs imo because the story has changed with the new content that’s been added throughout the years
"With the recent loss of Ghommel and Duradel, their counterparts now relentlessly channel summon thrall in the form of X and Y in order to have them back in their lives even if it's strenuous " I'd be happy with
They should have replaced Duradel with “duradels boyfriend” and nobody would ask questions
Thank you for helping me not lose hope with this content!
RSN: Farameir3000
why they keep releasing updates for osrs. that defeats the point of osrs
… because the game would get stale, and people would stop paying them for membership to play the game? Is that such a difficult concept?
@@channingtaintum yes
Osrs was really just meant to revert eoc, but to continue on with updates as if eoc never happened.
That's what we wanted and that's what we got. You had to be there to know this
Osrs was really just meant to revert eoc, but to continue on with updates as if eoc never happened.
That's what we wanted and that's what we got. You had to be there to know this