We've Never Seen an OSRS Economy Like this Before!
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
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For the first time in a while, it looks like osrs is getting a pretty big bot banwave. Looking at the prices of the most heavily botted items, most of them have sharply increase this month. Items like dragon bones, chinchompas, blood shards and crystal teleport seeds have all seen massive increases this month.
Today we are going to be looking at this trend, as well as anything else interesting in the oldschool runescape economy this month.
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You show the name of the gold selling site in the vid btw
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That sponsorship segway was TERRIBLE! lol the rest of the vid was fire though
So amazing being able to really FEEL jagex impact on bots in game instead of just reading their stats or watching the bot busting streams.
They just need to keep the waves coming tbh. Lms was crazy with the last wave. For about a week. Maul handles started going back up same for pouch notes.
unfortunately alot of legitimate players are getting caught in it with no way to contact someone about it
@@KremeCheez45ok botter
@@jonathanc3001i got false banned twice so stfu about stuff you know nothing about.
@@timitaliani3611 they can’t even ban the obvious real bots most of the time and there are countless examples of people claiming false bans who just want their bots unbanned, so I tend not to believe these stories.
Clearing out the GE of bots before the olympics
Or before a foreign leader comes. Lookin at you Newsom
Even if it makes it more expensive to train some skills with the lack of bots keeping item prices low it's still a big win on how several other money makers are either improved or opened up again. So in the end it does seem to balance itself out.
Oak logs are worth more than normal logs now 😂
@@Footfetish42069 oak logs should be more valuable than regular logs
Nah man I shouldn't be paying 5k for regular dragon bones, some bots aren't a bad thing
@@hardup9809it makes money makers better though like zulrah, which drop dragon bones. So you have access to better money makers that will offset it
@@hardup9809 My brother, this means you can go kill green dragons for over 5k a pop. Easy money. With less bots you make more cash, so even if you're spending more you're still making more.
Biggest bot ban wave I've seen since I started playing oldschool in 2015.
I LOVE to see it.
Rest in pepperonis to the few people who surely got falsely banned and will never get support.
Crazy thing. I just got unbanned after my account was hacked and used as a botter. But my case I provided a lot of proof for the legitimacy to my account, and they were able to revert it to before I was hacked
THIS is how the OSRS economy was supposed to be without bots, and they were making a ton of content that regular players would have been doing completely worthless, exactly as predicted. Bots ruined the game so badly that EVERYTHING is shooting up without them.
Yep. Bots essentially widen the gap between early/mid game and end game for main accounts. Lower level players have their money making options crippled, while high end players benefit off of the cheap resoureces/supplies.
No
@@FirstNumber1 A most thoroughly compelling rebuttal. Your eloquence astounds me, sir.
@FirstNumber1 gheyboy u r
Seeing the increase in enhanced teleport seeds makes me think i bought bowfa and crystal armour at the exact right time
I got so lucky too lol
The examples you gave of barrows - ahrims has rose because it now gives magic str bonus, and Dharoks has rose simply because the axe went up due to its use on the flame shield mechanic at tormented demons
I hope they can continue keeping the heavily botted items down. I hate when people ask for things to be "balanced around Ironmen", it should be balanced about mains, but in a way where people can REALISTICALLY grind for items. Nobody wants beyond crazy 500h+ grinds, your average Joe shouldn't be punished by bad prices for certain drops or skilling, or crazy high droprates to save the eco due to how heavily botted they are or can be.
Almost everything they’ve complained about is optional. Grinding TDS or nightmare isn’t necessary for doing high level endgame content. What they really need to do is touch grass lol
@@l0lan00b3 legit, i've seen ironmen complaining that they are forced to grind for 3 tormented synapses for all 3 weapons, like, no you're not! especially since emberlight is the only useful one atm lol
The bow literally shreds what are you talking about
I just happened to be doing agility and watched in real time as the amylase crystals crashed to an ALL TIME low of 610 like a week ago. I bought in hard and was genuinely surprised they made an almost full recovery (they were 9580 this morning)
Wasnt bot related but im excited to share 😊
Guys if you dont believe the bots are being targetted, I know its dodgy to say but just keep an eye on price of gold on 3rd party websites. Gold has gone from 0.135 per mil to 0.15 per mil so theyre doing something alright.
Edit as said in video.
2 cents convinces you youre just coping and completely addicted to gold tbh shit used to be worth D O L L A R S game is completely dead ironman is relevant and being a p2w noob is what bonds are for, games doomed the devs can't get an update 100% correct and keep being deceptive about updates. We were supposed to get a whole prayer book and they can just scrap zeah entirely kinda crazy that people pay money for this shit
@@TheSuperghdudeThe prayer book was scrapped because people kept complaining about it; either that it was too OP or too weak or whatever else they could come up with
@@TheSuperghdude thats an 11% increase lil bro, learn math
@@TheSuperghdude Even around 2017 gold wasn't worth dollars my guy
In pretty sure changing the price of osrs bonds in usd has something to do with all of this
This is great. Making items more of a grind gives it a greater wow factor when you see people who have earned it. This is why osrs was so nostalgic back in the day
remember when party hats were a sign of wealth and status? good old days.....
@@tabryis yea it was like seeing a Ferrari, people flocked
Bro this is a real dumb take for a game which players can buy bonds for like 8 dollars and still buy all this "rare" crap. Lmao the cope for this game is hilarious.
@@MrGodgivemeaname bro who hurt you?
@Rippersshow are you body type A or B with your runescape main?
I wonder if this could be the long awaited "long term" bot problem they were talking about a while ago
This is a 20 year on going problem they do a big wipe to show face and in 6 months time the bots are all back in full force and the prices will crash again.
They also want to ban the legacy Java client soon. So buy some time before bot makers remake all their scripts for newer clients
Nope. There's too much real life money in botting. People will ALWAYS find a way to get around their bot detection. It's a constant battle of bot scripts advancing and getting past jagex, and jagex finding a fix. It is an endless cycle, and we will no doubt see bots come back in full force again.
My biggest regret is not buying a scythe when it was ~$350m…
Not as painful but I sold my soul reaper axe when it was 130m took a break came back and shed a tear
@@CivilizeGaming thats still a big ouch…
i sold 6 elder mauls for 8.5m ea last year, do be hurtin
big tru tru
@@Kevin..1 oof lmao
Curious to see how the prices of dragon bones changed with Nerissa Ravencroft's OSRS streams
Lmao I clicked the thumbnail for the same reason
First thing that came to mind LOL
What was the deal?
Can you give more context please?
@@jondon3182 she's been accepting donations of superior dbones from viewers to train prayer, what she calls "boning sessions" lasting 4+ hours
One thing I would say as a side note.
This benefits low/mid tier accounts the most.
High tier raiding drops will set the price ceiling in terms of volume of items.
Bot set the price floor in terms of volume.
Botted tasks are generally your mid/low tier accounts tasks.
I'm loving the red chins price going up. I've been working on 99 hunter and most guides say from 63-99 you'll earn about 50-60 million from red chins. I'm at level 97 1/2 and have almost 90 million worth of chins in the bank. Great money maker right now
As someone who's done 99 with chins twice, I suggest selling them while they're high. I get the satisfaction of selling them at the end, but they might still go down
Unless you're planning on finishing reaaaaally soon, maybe
Also as someone who's done chins to 99 twice - it's very worth going to black chins, I promise
You better sell them lol, that price is 100% coming back down
Honestly with this inflation as a person who plays a couple weeks a year when I see a very interesting update I’m considering selling all my stuff and buying bonds. Since they keep rising anyway, seems like a good way to protect my current net worth.
Its coming back down. I was flipping raw shrimp just to make some easy cash and they went from 70ish gp each to 280 gp now its back to 135gp.
I was in the process of buying 99 herblore, had planned on doing extended super antifires because they were close to profitable. I should have bought the superior bones earlier, because they’re far too expensive to be realistic now
Meanwhile at Jagex somebody noticed Bot detection has been off this whole time and they finally turned it on
they probably got AI learning going on now
thanks for some good news - love to see the economy recover from bots!
Good to see Jagex actually cares about the games economy. One of many reasons why this game is so good. High level items should always be expensive it of course also based on their use. I hate how some things are crashing through like the Fan and the Scythe. Gg on banning those pesky bots.
This is a huge improvement!
I was wondering what was going on with the in-game economy. Everything has gone up in price, but I didnt see why for certain items. With all the new content updates I considered that to be the reason, but seeing this I realize why the impact is much bigger than I'm used to
Bees like honey
The bees like knees or something like that
Bees make* honey
@@shaynehughes6645don’t they make honey to eat it tho?
Fair play though they do also like pollen
@@samhodgkinson8901 no they dont they make honey from pollen sit the fock u did well but i did better
I just started playing again since 2016, wow this game has changed a ton. So far it's been fun!
What have you done to urself you welcomed a curse back into your life
Should've stayed away
Hello Robin, thank you for this video and i hope youre having a lovely summer ❤
I think Dharoks probably is related to tormented demons, since the greataxe is bis when shield is down and the whole set is even more bis with some more sweaty strats. I wonder if the fact that its maintained its value is actually the sign that the bot hammer is coming down
no its the degenerate gold addicts who hoard it and demand is a real thing, incredible jagex just keep turning the blind eye after getting into legal trouble for the duel arena. Shit company for letting the garbage go on when they initially removed the arena. Dmers have manipulated prices before and they cant survive without dh id blame them before td's
And basically bis at moons
I hope that jagex will keep adding features that makes it easier to obtain these heavily botted items because the economy relies on bots so heavily. Things like double ammo mould and temple of eyes set.
Do you think Rapiers and Fangs are gonna go back up?
The fang needs to be more rare and slightly better lol
One thing that confuses me is herb prices seem to be crashing meanwhile. My toadflax went down from 3900 to 3400 and not selling isntantly.
Probably in part due to how easy it is to farm. Plus with the devs giving herb drops to practically everything as a bulk drop, it's bound to be killing the prices on herbs. It's a shame how piss poor Herblore is as a money-maker, it's literally a cash-sink despite being a skill thematically about crafting potions... it's so frustrating.
Wintertodt is up with the changes on the horo
@@ahealthkit2745 Herblore is still good for converting crystal shards into divine super combat potions to sell.
@@ahealthkit2745 I miss skilling being a good money maker. RC nature/astrals.
My managing miscellania rewards got devalued like crazy with the herbs dropping
With the shadow starting to decline in price do you think we should sell or hold? I currently don’t play my main.
I am really happy those bots are gone.
Most of the people that talked about the blood furry were always very dismissive about it when I said that;
their blood shards are only even obtainable due to the insane amount of bots that bot them.
When you're 2x the droprate of them on avarage over 20m thieving exp on an iron, you tend to notice how annoying it is get get more charges for your blood furry.
Now at least the mains have to suffer with us, at least a little.
If anything, and mostly, I just hope they introduce another way to charge these things.
I did my 500 barrows chest grind 2 months ago, when I started it was infested, reported all bots, and when I was at 300ish chests, I had not seen any more bots till I completed my 500runs
What loot did you get
@@ktraider100 only missing verac skirt, torag legs and dh axe to have everything, got 35-40 items
@@oohLiquicity Very nice, full guthans will be a godsend for you
i know botters will come after me for this but there is still theiving bots with 99 thieving capes in every world right outside hallowed sep dung, and there is still nex bots doing 6 man teams in every other world, my proof ( for people that will say this is not true in comments) = thieving bots try to close door same time u open door EVERY time, and there is no way 6 people log out within 1 tick all at the same time when you enternex boss room. Anyone who argues my point 100% is a botter.
As someone grinding zulrah for the pet it’s been nice to see the process steadily increase
Interesting, could some of these price changes be, in part, attributed to "Summer Slump"? Would be interesting to look over a longer period.
WE WANT THE BOTS
I love this video. I'm still a F2P player but I started doing a bit of GE flipping while high alching/superheating on the side while waiting. I've reached 3mil so far doing that. Would you ever do a video on the economy of just F2P items to show what those player's economy is like without access to the member's items & places?
Bots are the “illegal immigrants” of RuneScape. On 1 hand, we don’t like them crashing the prices of the items we want to go get, BUT, i sure do enjoy when they flood the GE with supply materials that I need and do the jobs I don’t want to do.
Lmao
I don't enjoy it at all. Bots make every money maker less profitable. I'd rather make more money and pay more to actual players gathering resources.
The US Economy 🤣
@@yarsaz4347 100% but then you go to train prayer or construction and its ten times more expensive now rip
They should make both pvp enabled everywhere
So happy that I bought my dragon bones a few months ago to power level my Prayer on my first new account since 2003.
Cost of living crisis IRL now cost of living crisis in my OSRS😂
"What do bee's like? Pollen?" ??? It's like asking "What do women like? Sperm?" 😂😂
I think it's the result isn't entirely bots being banned. I believe it's partly banning, but also botters cutting their losses and botting pirates instead of wasting time leveling bots for SotF, SotE and MM2.
I got two bloodshards this weekend it was great
A few people i know have been complaining about the bots being gone so prices are going up. Could not for the life of me convince them that its good because it means the stuff they sell is worth more now too.
Well the bloodshards make sense. It really does take a ton of time to get a single one and on the tippy top level everyone needs their blood fury.
Hi, Paladin here with an additional possible cause for Superior Dragon Bones.
Nerissa Ravencroft, A Vtuber from the HoloLiveEnglish Vtuber agency, has recently started streaming OSRS and wanted to get prayer up so her fans bought up a bunch of bones to keep funneling to her.
I was watching some of her streams and a majority of them she was just boning the altar in someones POH while people ran bones for her.
I would not know if this was significant enough, but HoloLive fans are very dedicated so maybe they have just been buying up all the bones, in combination with Jagex banning Vorkath bots consistently.
9-10k bones are bought/sold every hour, it's have a small bump but I'd doubt it'd have a long lasting impact like we're seeing.
It takes 24.8k superior bones to get from 70-99 and the daily volume is 636k, so I would guess this by itself isn't very significant.
Still, it's just *one* person grinding prayer to 99. I'm pretty skeptical that one person grinding it to 99 would impact the bone's price like that. If it was hundreds+ grinding 99 prayer at once it would make sense. I'm sure on a daily basis there's multiple players grinding out 99 prayer and just adding one more to it wouldn't make any difference.
@@bulbasa9r753 It wasn't one person buying them, it was potentially a hundred people buying them.
Bought my Tbow @ 799m before leagues one year.
Bought my Scythe @ 370m.
Bought my 3A Robe Top because Fashionscape @ 64m.
Loving life, bOi's.
The bots are just changing locations. The wildy bosses are absolutely swamped with bots right now. Corp bots are in mass at ferox refreshing for more corp kills. Vetion has 1/2 the worlds taken by bots currently. They’re just changing locations
Well at least the community can actively combat these bots.
as a mid lvl player that is trying to break into endgame gear that costs 10m+ a piece, these price inflations are very valuable. Interested to see how this changes the game long term, and if botters will come back in a month time like nothing happened or if this is a more permanent solution to anti botting
I was doing zulrah making bank and got so confused how and why but now i know
I feel your pain on the one chunk man at a time, brother. Hope soon merch series goes on❤
We need to work together as a team to make the osrs community better! Ive been reporting every bot that I come across. Together we can do it guys!
Shouldn't volume be more indicative of botting being targeted, instead of just price? It may just be inflation due to lots of content being released
started rebuilding at zulrah and the gp/hr is actually crazy feel like 2014 again
I think the new slayer boss coming where need the torture to upgrade to the new BiS melee necklace probably helped bump it up too I would say.
They should’ve targeted the GE before they took out the bots that make the game actually fun
bought 250k superiors for 9250ea, sold for 12100ea never expected them to go past previous max price, insane.
The primary reason for this isn't the bots, its inflation. There is a crazy amount of GP in the game and not nearly enough GP sinks. Bots were just masking this issue by flooding the market with enough items to keep the prices relatively stable instead of skyrocketing in proportion to the skyrocketing amount of GP being brought into the game. Its about to become very apparent to people how out of control inflation has gotten and how poor the balancing of the game really is. OSRS just continues to look more and more like a poorly balanced private server ever year.
Those candantine seeds...bought over 1k, no idea the price over a year ago, but now they're so expensive. Too bad i need them
I played with a buddy of mine two years ago never got any levels done at all and was only flipping. I started playing again this week and got access into my old account .I had a stack of 24,000 chaos runes it said I bought for around 1.2 million, and proceeded to instant sell them for almost 2.5 million
This may have been stated in the comments or the video.. but couldn’t this also be due to it being summer? I’m pretty sure last year things like chinchompas also spiked simply because the player count was so high due to it being summer time.
Whats going on with the soulreaper, no ones talking about that dropping 100m in like a week? Will it keep tanking or come back up?
I’ve already had clan mates complaining that they want the bots back to lower the blood shard prices. Brain rot is insane.
Huge work for the Jagex team!
I hate seeing accounts with 15,000 zulrah kc or isolated stats of 110 level+.
Really interesting video this week!
They're banning more than just bots....
I'm glad I noticed this at around the same time you seemed to. I stocked up on most things I needed, although blood fury will forever waste my gold.
Its pretty hilarious how the Superior Dragon Bones were influenced by a single vtuber playing the game and wanting to get 99 prayer first.
rofl, i commented about it before watching, havent finisehd watching but hoping he adresses it lol
Ope
nerissa? lmaooo true
I doubt some random youtuber would influence the price that much. It would be the bot ban more than anything
@@pomey13 It's playing a factor into it, definately not sole reason but part of it
Bond increase partially related to the increase in bond price with irl cash last month!
one item i feel you missed was the staff of the dead. was 5m in January now its 15m
For now. Until the botters learn how to get around this speed bump. Someone will write a better script and they'll be back.
DHL has gone nuts as well. 30 mil 8 months ago to 62 mil is crazy.
Excited to actually have good money makers that aren't high level bossing. Zombie pirates like 2m an hour now btw, the bot farms are gone and cballs are fairly common
I think it's very hard to say there's a decline in bots and that's why prices go up when there is not change in daily volume. If a huge swath of bots meaningfully got removed then the volume would see some decrease as those items no longer go into the GE. I think its still just hyperinflation of the game. RIP to midgame accounts.
Can you do a vid on the price of 3rd age? Longsword is near max cash now just curious
Decided to get my first zenyte shard. Felt good to sell. Im addicted so I’ll be going back for more
Bots are really a double-edged sword, because having low prices on skilling supplies is nice but on the opposite ends having money makers more profitable is also nice. But if the additional money you gain is spent in the relative price increase elsewhere, is it really making a difference ultimately?
Or course philosophically I'm strictly against botting but in the real world there is some give and take to botting.
Not necessarily related, but fun facts, i just spent less on Osmumtens Fang than i did on my last bond
I noticed blood shards yesterday. Needed one and was like "14mil?! Ffs!"
I am very happy Jagex is taking care of this... MOST players are somewhere in the mid game and these things are impactful for them.
Im curious what you think of AI price trackers and flipping.
I'm glad the bot problem is getting better, but it feels like casual/mobile players can't really play the game anymore. Im glad the game is better for pc players, but as a mobile player, these changes make it basically impossible to ever bond my membership.
fremennik capes are insane right now especially the blue one lol
"Items are more expensive" isn't a bad thing to people who actually play the game and sell stuff for gp, it only really negatively effects bondies who now have to give jagex more money to not play the game.
Ive been noticing this trend as well, its kinda crazy. I still wonder how many of the active players are bots
I mean, Jagex has no excuse not to ban all bots within a week of them doing w/e they are scripted to, and that is being extremely generous about it... They just actively choose not to so they can inflate sub numbers to keep investors happy.
If Sir Pugger made a video about 2 guys who created a 99.9999% accurate bot detection script in a single afternoon, why can't Jagex do the same? They can, they just don't.
We saw Jagex clear out bots before GTA 6
I came back to this game 3 years later to find out my bank was doubled. This is cool
Looks like I’m going to vorkath after work today 😎
Brutal black dragon alt represent!!! Perfect timing! 🙋🏽💯💯
What we are seeing is the same bots being moved to deadman mode to help the people who own the bots 😂 now think about that for a second ! YEP the players you know and love are the ones who bot😅
The Shadow is definitely dropping due to botting. Same as the fang.
They’re just far too common. TOA shits out purples and is the most beginner friendly raid. I’m sure bots are a problem there but the drop rates are the reason it’s so heavily botted if anything
I was able to double my gold on vile ash, what's going on with tin ore?
this is wild lol i botted 96-99 thieving just a few days ago and got 6 blood shards no bans
I’m just glad I bought 20k red chins when they were 850 each for 99 range.
I would say jagex has been hitting bots pretty good these past months but the prices on items like blood shards still makes no sense to me. Been doing a fun goal of 82-99 at vyres and while at 82 to 94 so far I have seen on average 2 blood shard bots per world any time per day without fail average 108-115 thieving so these things are not getting banned as fast as the price increase shows. I think bots are only part of why some of these items are raising there is another cause for why they are going up or have gone up so much too
Can I just buy and hold bonds like an osrs ETF?
I've noticed these past few weeks, there were lesser Nex and Revenant bots.