+Vakken Casstafonix I only included the grinders so you CAN grind it away, like if you made it too high, or you want to deconstruct it at all. It's an OPTION not a necessity.
+RySome space elivaitor whould be usfull if they made it more challenging to build a ship like if you had to have a ship core with is extreemly expensive and the same goes with rovers but they wil be less expensive it whould make it more challenging
+Redstonewahn And I reckon he could turn the shaft into a 3 by 3 staircase, so that in case they ran out of fuel they could just walk back down. my 2 cents
+Jackolus Gamer Fuck, that would be so boring! May as well just have med-bay respawn points at the different places and have this as one big pipe-line, so you just put your stuff in it then respawn.
Cool, our first assignment in Solid Mechanics was actually to design a space elevator cable. Everyones conclusion was that we need graphene or carbon nanotubes to do it, if you did it using steel the "cable" would have to be something like 1000 meters thick at the end and nanometers thin at the bottom, in other words not possible. With nanotubes/graphene you could get away with a centimeter thick cable at the end and milimeter thick at the botom, which would be doable :D
You could just stack more welders on top of the capsule to increase the distance from when the welding of the rail begins so the welders weld faster, allowing you to travel at higher speeds.
+Paul Wilson Normal thrusters work just fine! Check out Panurga's video here: ruclips.net/video/57Aehn5_w54/видео.html About the cargo, I honestly don't know! Unfortunately someone pointed out to me that the conveyors are too small to transport materials so ill need to rework that. I highly reccomend you download the craft and give it a try for yourself! :D -RySome
+Captain Katawa Glad you asked! The grinders are there if the Pilot of the elevator decides that they no longer need the elevator shaft. It's no a requirement or anything, It s just there so if you want to get rid of the elevator shaft, you can! And yes! this craft can easily glide up and down from space and back, In fact, on the way down, this thing can really pick up some speed!
+Ben Riddle Unfortunately you can't dig deeper than 7 km underground. +RySome The self dismantling setup is quite cool. People usually don't think about how to dispose something
So you didn't really put anything in the Video about this and so I have a question... How the hell does it move down the shaft without gravity pulling it into the base and destroying it? Do the wheels press so tightly that it basically locks it while no control is being pressed or is it the downward thrusters that keep it locked into position? Do you just press the thrusters to make the upward facing ones fire to descend? If so, how do you control the speeds against the gravity to prevent the inevitable crashing to the surface? I've built a lot of planetary landers and let me tell you, it takes a LOT of opposed thrust to counter a 1.0 Gravity field, especially if you have a small cargo/mining ship or vehicle attached to the elevator. And it looks like it only uses Ion thrusters which are useless once you enter the atmosphere, which means you would need to replace them with hydrogen thrusters. The issue then would be the fact that you need hydrogen tanks to fuel it which take up more space and jack up the design, so you'd have to deconstruct the whole thing just to fit it with such thrusters. And then there is the fuel problem, being that it is likely you would burn up whatever hydrogen you could fit inside the thing before you got halfway up or down it... Have you tested this with actual vanilla gravity mechanics or no? Sorry for long post. Also I'm not trying to be a jerk, I know it comes off like that. I'm just curious as to it's actual functionality in current game builds (vanilla) :)
+Tad Silverthorn Also I should say that this is something I have really been dying for lately. Currently it takes these massive ships or platforms (For platforms it takes up something like 60 Million kg in mass) all fitted with an insane amount of hydrogen thrusters which in turn takes an insane amount of fuel that burns up quickly, in order to land/take off of a 1.0 G planet. This is the only way I can justify building a base or facility on a planet. Ice for oxygen for example, is best harvested on planets where a stationary mining drill can usually get enough ice for a straight year of playtime on a single world, or for maintaining Hydrogen farms once you use an electrolysis generator (they call them oxygen generators in SE) system to separate the atoms. For hydrogen the drills need to be mobile as the ice in a single area will deplete and hydrogen burns too quickly for that small amount to maintain. In addition those platforms for planetary landing take hydrogen to ascend/descend as I said so they usually burn up more than 3/4ths of the payload by the time I get to orbit. So a platform that can go from the planet to orbit capable of hauling that cargo off-world using minimal resources in terms of thrust is something that is very, very, veeerry appealing to me. It's an awesome concept and if you were to keep working on it i'm sure many others would find it very useful. I would be willing to assist you on the design parameters if you want I just don't have time(patience) to construct the damned thing myself. Though I may download your outdated model just to see what tweaks I can make to qualify my specification of low-resource usage orbital transport.
+stefastra The purpose of the grinders are to give the ability to grind down the shaft when it is no longer needed. You don't need to use them every time you want to go down the shaft. :p
+exelsiar build the cart first then just a few blocks of the rail. put it on, finish the rail. (in case of non self building space elevators) or put it onto the rail on top (in space) if thats an option for you.
oh and almost forgot. tho' hard for some cart designs: if you rail is already placed and you want to build a cart or replace the current one you can also build 2 halfes and use mergeblocks then
Awesome and creative man, I like it a lot! I would leave the block tower there and attach it to a space bay or station for ships to dock and be repaired. This would be kinda kool case then the ships wouldn't need to dock on the planet itself, they would just use the elevator. In fact there could be several of these lifts scattered strategically on important regions of the planet.
This was before planets, no one knew how big they were going to be. The rail can be easily extended, but the ion thrusters don't work on planets anymore either. :D
Actually carbon nanotubes are probably the only thing strong enough. To make this even possibly feasible. NASA is already playing with the idea. But one problem is how to keep aircraft from running into it. Like this concept though, good work. :)
honestly how planets are right now, space elevator would be great. Hydrogen cost/cost of ship to get to space is huge atm At least when talking about a heavy hauler capable of moving large components/materials up and down
2 questions - i dnt think this would work with current game, it just falls over & how too you in creative, via blueprints, place the vehicle onto the base?
+zak cooper The Elevator was built before planets, so it needs to be retrofitted; add hydrogen thrusters, other tweaking. The base platform should be perfectly fine as long as you embed it slightly into the surface. Placing the Elevator is a bit tricky. I usually just place the blue print right over the pillar and let the elevator fall into place. Not the best way, though I haven't found a better one! Hope that helps :D
Beautiful design. I wonder how long of a rail the game can handle and how the game would handle if the rail was broken off at the bottom with the upcoming natural gravity on planets.
now all the design needs is the capability to build all the way to Geo-Synchronous orbit, where you could simply throw a payload off the platform and it would stay in space :D
It ain't leaving the gravitational pull of a planet. It's orbiting. Here,read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit I tried to type out an explanation of my own but at the end of it all, I didn't even understand myself! xD
One-Way Films In real life, yes, it'd be orbit. But in Space Engineers planets don't rotate, so you wouldn't be in orbit by default. You'd just be sitting outside the gravitational pull.
A space elevator is possible to make i read a paper on it, and the material that we need is created.the problem is its not long enough to put it simply we cant mass produce it in the volume we need but in another 50 years a space elevator is possible.(also the problem how to avoid space debris)
RySome I Know you said that, Will you make an updated version? I made an attempt to make one survival ready. I am using: - 5 KM Pillar Blueprint - Atmospheric-Ion Elevator Cabin hold by wheels the only problem are those bugs... the cabin exploded at 100m/s after 1000 m above ground. Here you can take a look: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=585492792
+RySome Wow! Getting a comment from Panurga! Thats gotta be exciting! Also, keep up the good work. this is an awesome build! By the way, it was such a good build that I decided to subscribe. Cheers!
I gotta say... You sound very similar to aaron (or is it erin?) from last stand gamers. I'm guessing you probably have been told that before, have you? EDIT: *When the video first start
Building this now in 2023 having to change some minor things, and adjust setting to add the wheels for example. also having to watch this alot to find what did not load.
I Think this is great, An I do believe that it does have praticality for SE. Yes you can just build a ship but but at the cost of resorces! with this once you set up a base an guid rail all you need at that point is solar / batt. an you can ferry all your resorses with out expending any. Great idea for for a galaxy take over! I love thinking about what can happen when the bad guys come to take it out!
+RySome just as a note, we have the necessary resources... and the man power and the technology to be able to actually build a space elevator... what we lack, as a race, is the coordination and determination to actually do it. other then that nice build
+Brent Batch&MC Carbon Nano-Tubes (aka Graphene). Once we figure out how to print this stuff out in long, nano-scale strands we can weave a cable that will be both highly conductive and 100x stronger than steel by weight (tensile strength) .
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Why the hell would you remove the shaft afterwards?
Yes, pls say why you remove the shaft?
+Vakken Casstafonix I only included the grinders so you CAN grind it away, like if you made it too high, or you want to deconstruct it at all. It's an OPTION not a necessity.
+RySome space elivaitor whould be usfull if they made it more challenging to build a ship like if you had to have a ship core with is extreemly expensive and the same goes with rovers but they wil be less expensive it whould make it more challenging
Vakken Casstafonix that's what she said
Vincent that's what I was thinking?
Now that planets are released, try this on one!
+Redstonewahn And I reckon he could turn the shaft into a 3 by 3 staircase, so that in case they ran out of fuel they could just walk back down. my 2 cents
+Jackolus Gamer
Fuck, that would be so boring!
May as well just have med-bay respawn points at the different places and have this as one big pipe-line, so you just put your stuff in it then respawn.
+Jackolus Gamer Jump down then use jetpack dampeners or just add solar panels
Cool, our first assignment in Solid Mechanics was actually to design a space elevator cable. Everyones conclusion was that we need graphene or carbon nanotubes to do it, if you did it using steel the "cable" would have to be something like 1000 meters thick at the end and nanometers thin at the bottom, in other words not possible. With nanotubes/graphene you could get away with a centimeter thick cable at the end and milimeter thick at the botom, which would be doable :D
This is surprisingly practical now.
Anyone else wanna see him bring it all the way up and then drop it while its on an actual planet?
me
You could just stack more welders on top of the capsule to increase the distance from when the welding of the rail begins so the welders weld faster, allowing you to travel at higher speeds.
+T. Maximilian Waechter Great idea!
the real question is, can it withstand gravity as large as .6 g's?
If you make the pillar out of conveyor blocks you could just build a pipe line to space and send supplies to build more from the bottom.
Do you think the normal thrusters will work with the planets gravity? Also, how high do you get before the storage containers run out of materials.
+Paul Wilson Normal thrusters work just fine! Check out Panurga's video here: ruclips.net/video/57Aehn5_w54/видео.html
About the cargo, I honestly don't know! Unfortunately someone pointed out to me that the conveyors are too small to transport materials so ill need to rework that. I highly reccomend you download the craft and give it a try for yourself! :D
-RySome
1 Why do you need to grind the shaft going downwards?
2 does it actually smoothly tolerably go up into space and back?
+Captain Katawa Glad you asked! The grinders are there if the Pilot of the elevator decides that they no longer need the elevator shaft. It's no a requirement or anything, It
s just there so if you want to get rid of the elevator shaft, you can! And yes! this craft can easily glide up and down from space and back, In fact, on the way down, this thing can really pick up some speed!
+RySome careful of that speed though. And wouldn't it be cool if you drilled down and had the elevator passing through the planet?
+Ben Riddle Unfortunately you can't dig deeper than 7 km underground.
+RySome The self dismantling setup is quite cool. People usually don't think about how to dispose something
Nice Work RySome , i tried to build an Elevator like this long time befor the planets were out but the landinggears smashs my plan :)
So you didn't really put anything in the Video about this and so I have a question... How the hell does it move down the shaft without gravity pulling it into the base and destroying it? Do the wheels press so tightly that it basically locks it while no control is being pressed or is it the downward thrusters that keep it locked into position? Do you just press the thrusters to make the upward facing ones fire to descend? If so, how do you control the speeds against the gravity to prevent the inevitable crashing to the surface? I've built a lot of planetary landers and let me tell you, it takes a LOT of opposed thrust to counter a 1.0 Gravity field, especially if you have a small cargo/mining ship or vehicle attached to the elevator. And it looks like it only uses Ion thrusters which are useless once you enter the atmosphere, which means you would need to replace them with hydrogen thrusters. The issue then would be the fact that you need hydrogen tanks to fuel it which take up more space and jack up the design, so you'd have to deconstruct the whole thing just to fit it with such thrusters. And then there is the fuel problem, being that it is likely you would burn up whatever hydrogen you could fit inside the thing before you got halfway up or down it... Have you tested this with actual vanilla gravity mechanics or no? Sorry for long post. Also I'm not trying to be a jerk, I know it comes off like that. I'm just curious as to it's actual functionality in current game builds (vanilla) :)
+Tad Silverthorn Also I should say that this is something I have really been dying for lately. Currently it takes these massive ships or platforms (For platforms it takes up something like 60 Million kg in mass) all fitted with an insane amount of hydrogen thrusters which in turn takes an insane amount of fuel that burns up quickly, in order to land/take off of a 1.0 G planet. This is the only way I can justify building a base or facility on a planet. Ice for oxygen for example, is best harvested on planets where a stationary mining drill can usually get enough ice for a straight year of playtime on a single world, or for maintaining Hydrogen farms once you use an electrolysis generator (they call them oxygen generators in SE) system to separate the atoms. For hydrogen the drills need to be mobile as the ice in a single area will deplete and hydrogen burns too quickly for that small amount to maintain. In addition those platforms for planetary landing take hydrogen to ascend/descend as I said so they usually burn up more than 3/4ths of the payload by the time I get to orbit. So a platform that can go from the planet to orbit capable of hauling that cargo off-world using minimal resources in terms of thrust is something that is very, very, veeerry appealing to me. It's an awesome concept and if you were to keep working on it i'm sure many others would find it very useful. I would be willing to assist you on the design parameters if you want I just don't have time(patience) to construct the damned thing myself. Though I may download your outdated model just to see what tweaks I can make to qualify my specification of low-resource usage orbital transport.
Whats the name of the ending or closing song?
what's the point of the grinders? cant you just go down without breaking the blocks?
+stefastra The purpose of the grinders are to give the ability to grind down the shaft when it is no longer needed. You don't need to use them every time you want to go down the shaft. :p
good to see real world ideas coming across and beening built well done sir, nice piece of engineering
+Lord Wraith Thank You!!!
Great idea, going to use it for planets
Why not have the projector on the elevator so it can go on for ever
just how so you come up with the design
i always struggle to build things in SE but wow
cables in a elevator isnt an obligation , in real life for huge structures wheels systems is an usual option .
Does anyone have tips for getting the main vehicle on to the starting pillar? Thanks :)
+exelsiar build the cart first then just a few blocks of the rail. put it on, finish the rail. (in case of non self building space elevators)
or put it onto the rail on top (in space) if thats an option for you.
Hmm, ok i'll have to give both options a try, thanks :)
oh and almost forgot. tho' hard for some cart designs:
if you rail is already placed and you want to build a cart or replace the current one you can also build 2 halfes and use mergeblocks then
Awesome and creative man, I like it a lot!
I would leave the block tower there and attach it to a space bay or station for ships to dock and be repaired.
This would be kinda kool case then the ships wouldn't need to dock on the planet itself, they would just use the elevator.
In fact there could be several of these lifts scattered strategically on important regions of the planet.
We space elevator are use full for transporting supples from the ground to big shit that can't enter the atmosphere
2000 meters? aren't atmospheres over 8-9000 meters?
This was before planets, no one knew how big they were going to be. The rail can be easily extended, but the ion thrusters don't work on planets anymore either. :D
+RySome can you fix it
Actually carbon nanotubes are probably the only thing strong enough. To make this even possibly feasible. NASA is already playing with the idea. But one problem is how to keep aircraft from running into it. Like this concept though, good work. :)
Spaceships aren't the problem its space junk, the leftover debris from old satellites and shit
No aircraft in space lol
thanks for the heart attack at 7:40
I tried to build a space elevator but I couldnt place any more blocks on it after about 20km. Anyone know why?
+artemisf125 Apparently, ships and stations can only get so big. One guy needed to use merge blocks after a certain point.
honestly how planets are right now, space elevator would be great. Hydrogen cost/cost of ship to get to space is huge atm At least when talking about a heavy hauler capable of moving large components/materials up and down
omg yay finally you made something that I came up with! :3
Amazing elevator dude. :)
+TheDanishWaffle Thanks for giving me the idea!
2 questions -
i dnt think this would work with current game, it just falls over
& how too you in creative, via blueprints, place the vehicle onto the base?
+zak cooper The Elevator was built before planets, so it needs to be retrofitted; add hydrogen thrusters, other tweaking. The base platform should be perfectly fine as long as you embed it slightly into the surface. Placing the Elevator is a bit tricky. I usually just place the blue print right over the pillar and let the elevator fall into place. Not the best way, though I haven't found a better one!
Hope that helps :D
+RySome thanks bud I will try!! Do you have any plans to update?
Finally someone made it
+Deronn .J I had to make it, you and +theDanishWaffle came up with the best idea!
+RySome Thank you !
Beautiful design. I wonder how long of a rail the game can handle and how the game would handle if the rail was broken off at the bottom with the upcoming natural gravity on planets.
5:17. Your welcome
+eloyianwatt ?
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now all the design needs is the capability to build all the way to Geo-Synchronous orbit, where you could simply throw a payload off the platform and it would stay in space :D
That's not orbit though, that's just leaving the gravity of the planet. But I think it might well be able to, I mean if you extend the hologram...
It ain't leaving the gravitational pull of a planet. It's orbiting.
Here,read this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit
I tried to type out an explanation of my own but at the end of it all, I didn't even understand myself! xD
One-Way Films In real life, yes, it'd be orbit. But in Space Engineers planets don't rotate, so you wouldn't be in orbit by default. You'd just be sitting outside the gravitational pull.
ah, yeah. I get you now. xD
+Nerdsoft A ship can orbit a planet since a planet has gravitational pull, therefore a ship would be able to orbit a planet
A space elevator is possible to make i read a paper on it, and the material that we need is created.the problem is its not long enough to put it simply we cant mass produce it in the volume we need but in another 50 years a space elevator is possible.(also the problem how to avoid space debris)
looks nice just sad that it wont function in survival cuz the small conveyors dont transport building materials , just ore and ingots
It'd be awesome to use something like this for a multilevel base.
even though its kinda useless it looks amazing as hell
+Nofabe Haha! Compared to a ship, ya the elevator is pretty obsolite, though it's a good proof of concept! Glad you liked the looks! :D
Unusable for survival:
- You have to get the vehicle on the pillar
Unusable for Planets:
- Ion Thrusters are too weak
+CraftedInAMine This was made before planets...
RySome I Know you said that, Will you make an updated version? I made an attempt to make one survival ready.
I am using:
- 5 KM Pillar Blueprint
- Atmospheric-Ion Elevator Cabin hold by wheels
the only problem are those bugs... the cabin exploded at 100m/s after 1000 m above ground.
Here you can take a look:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=585492792
+RySome Hey I would like to talk to you about space engineers, also this is a vary unique and function piratical item. Keep up the good work!
+Panurga Awesome! Wanna add each other on steam?
yeah add Nero the Slayer Of Queens
+RySome Wow! Getting a comment from Panurga! Thats gotta be exciting! Also, keep up the good work. this is an awesome build! By the way, it was such a good build that I decided to subscribe. Cheers!
and why is this outdated? should still work
Interesting concept. If the engine was capable of smarter rendering, the welding/grinding process would be unnecessary
I gotta say... You sound very similar to aaron (or is it erin?) from last stand gamers. I'm guessing you probably have been told that before, have you?
EDIT: *When the video first start
yo bra I love your intro!
Building this now in 2023 having to change some minor things, and adjust setting to add the wheels for example. also having to watch this alot to find what did not load.
very nice
I Think this is great, An I do believe that it does have praticality for SE. Yes you can just build a ship but but at the cost of resorces! with this once you set up a base an guid rail all you need at that point is solar / batt. an you can ferry all your resorses with out expending any. Great idea for for a galaxy take over! I love thinking about what can happen when the bad guys come to take it out!
This could be done except with 4 welders so you can build it up all the way
I tried to build one last year I just can't make a elevator because of the wheels :P
But great job m8
+kopfjager68 Thanks, maybe ill post some build tutorials...
+RySome just as a note, we have the necessary resources... and the man power and the technology to be able to actually build a space elevator... what we lack, as a race, is the coordination and determination to actually do it. other then that nice build
+Chris Doney no we don't have the necessary recources, atm materials needed to make such elevator aren't strong enough.
+Brent Batch&MC Carbon Nano-Tubes (aka Graphene). Once we figure out how to print this stuff out in long, nano-scale strands we can weave a cable that will be both highly conductive and 100x stronger than steel by weight (tensile strength) .
great job!
Why not build a "mass relay"? Save space and less liable to hog airspace. Also cooler
+Greg Allard Mass relays are going to stop working in future patches. :D
aww
cool video
for a brief second I thought you said ricegum
nice video bud.
+Dustin Greenwood Dustain sooks cack
+Dustin Greenwood ya cool vid bruh
+RySome nah he doesnt
Looks cool and all but a waste of time on survival. Why erase on the way down. Still it looks cool at least
Why did it take 18 seconds, to show us two words?
......f-...first? Cool space elevator btw.
+MrIrrelevantComments Lol, I love how hesitant you were! XD
+RySome I saw a chance to be that one guy that says "first" but with the new system you can never be sure!
You were indeed first.
7:40 click
I thought it was bigger... illustration of size
why do you have to grind the rail? (teehee)
A-MA-ZING
wow
2000 meters is not enough
Damn it. It uses thrusters >:(
The.. uh.. and.. uh.. it.. uh.. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........................................
i am from the future...
Tommy Dervan No, I am.
And now, you are too.
haha you failed you diddn't use hydrogen thusters
+SurfyCoyote65 I made this Elevator before hydrogen engines came out. And before planets came out...
-Ry
RySome i know lol :)