Absolutely love Exceed too. Really gives you that fighting game feel (I also suck at the video game versions). I would probably rank summoner wars above Exceed though. The main surprise for me was how low warps edge was. I thought that would be top 10 for sure.
@erikpeters7072 I’d say we are equally into adventure games, generally speaking. Arkham and LOTR lcg and mage knight and the like. But yeah, you’re right, he and Bairnt are more likely to play crawlers!
Maybe it's cause he did a lot of videos when he was on here like his favorite dungeon crawlers and adventure games. I pretty much exclusively play those types of games. My top 10 games would be Isofarian Guard Agemonia Tales from the red dragon inn Roll player adventures Arena the contest Hexplore it Eldritch Horror Folklore the affliction Chronicles of Drunagor Oathsworn
@user-bh1rm1rk8x great list! Of those the only one I actively didn’t like much was hexplore it. I have a review copy of drunagor but haven’t played it yet
I LOVE what I’ve seen of guilty gear so far. It emphasizes playing boosts (cards that give you bonuses for the next attack) more, which I enjoy. For favorite, season 2 was the craziest (kind of too crazy, but cool), while I think season 5 or 6 (blazblue and under night) are their best designs so far
Summoner Wars 2nd is SO good. Not my favorite skirmish, but I can see it. WotR though...wow. That game lived up to the hype. Such an amazing system and dripping in theme.
Just curious, have you tried Puzzle Strike II? It gives me Bullet vibes but at a turn-based pace. (Also, if you've tried Age of Galaxy.) If one were to start with Exceed, any suggestions for purchase order? I love the Nature Incarnate expansion for Spirit Island, but it's definitely not a necessity. The truly essential expansion (Jagged Earth) has started release on the app in stages.
Yeah, I stopped with jagged earth. It was enough :) I used to love the original puzzle strike, but haven’t played it much in a while. I tried a demo of puzzle strike 2… wasn’t digging it. Didn’t feel quite balanced yet. But that’s par for the course for sirlin games. He usually needs 2-3 revisions of a design to get it right 😅 For exceed, it’s partially based on IP preference. My kids like shovel knight and street fighter, so those are frequently played for us. But mechanically I think the last two seasons, under night and blazblue, are the best and most interesting they’ve done.
Great list, Mike! You’ve inspired me to get Bullet to the table this month. For Sentinels, I’m pretty sure I have the older edition. Will the new edition rules work with my older game?
It’s not the rules that have changed, really. Unfortunately it’s the cards/characters themselves. Everything is HUGELY rebalanced and changed and redesigned. But there’s nothing wrong with your old version. It’s still good!
You have an awesome list, I really enjoyed all the top 100 videos, thanks ! Also, finally someone who appreciates Sentinels, such a great game ! EDIT: EXCEED ???? Wow Mike, you're full of surprises ! Nice ! I have two questions. Why EXCEED and not Indines since they are similar ? I would guess because Indines is longer ? Also, have you tried Pixel Tactics ? If not, I wholeheartedly recommend it !
Battlecon/indines was earlier on the list. I enjoy it, but find the ante phase can slow things down, and I kind of prefer having less info instead of more. But it’s still great! Pixel tactics was a bit too “mean” for my family. The combos you can pull off are awesome, but also frustrating 😜
Great list! I'd love to play many of them but sadly don't have the right people to play it with. E.g. Exceed seems like it asks for some time investment and I don't know anyone who'd be willing
Just few weeks ago I finally found Bullet (both Heart & Star) available in EU after trying to find them at a reasonable price for couple of years. Bullet is one of those games that people keep praising but usually (=always) lighter 10-30 minute games fail to entertain me past couple of plays, especially when played solo. Bullet has completely surpassed my expectations and has quickly moved into a permanent slot in my collection. #3 is a very high ranking for a (relatively) simple game like Bullet but I now understand why people love this game.
I hear such good things about Arkham Horror, but I don't know that I want to put $1k into a single game. Can it be enjoyed more casually, or do you have to really invest time and $ to make it worth it? The thing that turns me off of CCG like Pokemon and Magic is that you need to really stay on top of the Meta almost constantly to be competitive at all. So it's fun and keeps it interesting for a long time, but it feels like if you do something else for a while then suddenly to pick the game up again you have to "catch up" on all that you missed. Does Arkham Horror have that same issue?
The nice thing about Arkham (and the other cooperative fantasy flight LCGs, Lord of the Rings and Marvel Champions) is that since they are cooperative there is no "keeping up" or "meta" you have to stay on top of. You can buy what you want, play what you want, without any of that stress. But yes, Arkham's cost can build up quickly, if you get into it. You'd probably want to buy the revised core and one set of investigator and campaign expansions (I'd start with Dunwich Legacy). That will give you a short and a long campaign to play, and 10 characters to play around with. But that's also close to $150 investment by itself, so it isn't cheap even to start out!
War of the Ring is an impossible game. It's one of the biggest crunchiest games out there, and yet, each turn is incredibly simple and fast. It is a five hour game which feels like it takes an hour. And that's before you get into the incredible alt-history and theme.
I love Earthborne Rangers! I want to finish the campaign before I rank it higher in my top 100, but it’s a great game. But for my tastes, I definitely wouldn’t rank it above Arkham
Let's go!! Your taste align with mine so much it's crazy. Exceed is also my #1 board game and SW is in my top 10. Variable player powers and tactical gameplay are mechanics I love the most in board games
Great list Mike! I’m on the fence getting War of the ring because I can only play it exclusively solo, but this video might just push me to pull the trigger!
@yxygogo the lord of the ring LCG, the Reiner Knizia lord of the rings, journeys in middle earth, and the adventure book game are all decent to great, but none of them quite feel like lord of the rings to me 😅
@@OneStopCoopShop true, I think War of the ring really shows how grand the world of middle earth is with how all the factions interacting differently on a huge map.
Interesting list. I don't even think I can do 20 haha Mage Knight Nemesis Oathsworn Black Rose Wars: Rebirth (blown away by this one) Arkham Horror: LCG Dune: Imperium Spirit Island Spiritual Warfare (my design that no one but my family has played haha) Bloodborne: The Board Game Tournament Fishing Cthulhu: Death May Die Marvel Champions Heat: Pedal to the Metal
@@OneStopCoopShop - You will love it, mage battler with programming and pretty decent AI for the Avatars as well. I've described it as a mix of Mage Knight and Super Smash Bros.
Hi Mike are you familiar with the tier ranking list? If so I know it's less your style but can you please do a tier list on the heroes and bosses of bullet? It will be a great way to celebrate it being on your top 3
You are making the assumption that I’ve had time recently to play every boss and heroine and would be an expert on such things 😜 I love the game, but with my review schedule I don’t actually play it super often. Exceed is special in that my kids want to play it every day, so that one I do actually get a lot of play time with.
Oh OK got it Yeah I thought you did play every hero and every boss (not always each match up of course) but still have enough idea how to rank them in terms on difficulty or even just fun factor Maybe someday of you will, let me know 😉 Always forget that you are mostly bound to the new hotness haha I wish to do this kind of ranking myself but also like you don't have the time to play
Great list - and I think it's fantastic that you included some party games. Sometimes we take ourselves too seriously as boardgamers. Telestrations is a blast!
Thanks for the amazing videos. Im just new in solo boardgaming and put some intersting ones on my wishlist to check out. I have played spirit island for a week now and its a blast. Also have mage knight waiting to be played ❤️
Great list, including many of my favorites. Ive been curious about Sentinels for a while now but have seen conflicting things about it for two players. What is your take?
2-player requires house rules or two-handing, and two-handing can be intense when you are learning the game. I’ve played 2-player with a house rule where you basically have a third “helper” character who takes damage for you, but you each get an extra play or power on their turn. It’s not perfectly balanced but works smoothly
I value your opinion, Mike, so I added a few games to my wishlist/check-out-list now. And some that were already on there got moved up ... Thanks for doing this!
It’s really interesting that you don’t have any typical resource collection or point salad euro games on your list. Nice to see a list that exhibits such different taste.
I love the party games, Mike! Thanks for having us on this list again at number 3 AND 1! "Get to the table and play in 15 minutes" is truly the Exceed experience! Besides, it gives you more time to play MORE games of it! :) I need to start working on Bullet Smorgasbord.
Only saw your top 20 list so perhaps this was listed higher up but what do you think of Lord of the Rings The Card Game from FFG? It ranks that right up there with Arkham Horror LCG for me.
Later you called Agemonia one of your top games of the year, but maybe you hadn't played it yet when you made this video? What do you tt, would it rank high on yoyall time list?
@@OneStopCoopShop I missed it before but I went back and found it at #41. So do you like Tales from the Red Dragon Inn a lot more in the sort of adventure/crawler character progression kind of genres?
Thanks for the list and the brief overviews. Production quality suggestion, consider a better quality Mike. Even an entry USB Fifine Condenser AM8 with some basic OBS plugins (eq, compressor, expander) would do magic. Keep up the good work, love the content.
@MartinRonky ohhh, yes, that I can agree with. I’ll check out the ones you mentioned. I need a head worn mic (only thing that’s feasible for recording my plays), so that limits things a good bit
@@OneStopCoopShop Ah I see, that head wearing makes sense. When it comes to head worn microphones, I have good experience with Antlion microphone, that is attachable to any headphones, so maybe they have a standalone version. But first, try even just the OBS plugins, they are free, the EQ might help.
My top 6 board games are: This War of Mine, Bloodborne, Fallout, Arkham Horror 3rd Ed, Star Wars Outer Rim & Dead of Winter:The Long Night, I can play them without ever getting tired of them--point being, I loved that your list was honest to what appeals to you!! Great list, it was fun watching your countdown!
Flame & Fang Gamefound page - gamefound.com/en/projects/escape-velocity/flame--fang
Scroll down for the full list:
0:00 - Introduction
0:49 - 20 - Combat Commander
1:43 - 19 - Lost Ruins of Arnak
2:24 - 18 - Too Many Bones
3:07 - 17 - Unlock!
3:39 - 16 - Tales from the Red Dragon Inn
4:14 - 15 - Codenames Duet
5:06 - 14 - So Clover!
5:43 - 13 - Galaxy Trucker
6:36 - 12 - Sentinels of the Multiverse
7:33 - 11 - Just One
8:30 - 10 - The Crew
9:41 - 9 - Root
10:20 - 8 - Spirit Island
11:02 - 7 - Paleo
11:53 - 6 - War of the Ring
13:22 - 5 - Telestrations
14:44 - 4 - Summoner Wars 2nd Edition
16:38 - 3 - Bullet
17:33 - 2 - Arkham Horror: the Card Game
18:45 - 1 - Exceed fighting system
Great section! Codenames Duet, The Crew and Spirit Island are all in my top 5. Just One in my top 15.
Sounds like we have a lot in common :)
@@OneStopCoopShop war of the ring is goated
We have very little overlap in our top 100’s but that is what I enjoy about the hobby. There are dozens of games for everyone!
So true!!
Absolutely love Exceed too. Really gives you that fighting game feel (I also suck at the video game versions). I would probably rank summoner wars above Exceed though.
The main surprise for me was how low warps edge was. I thought that would be top 10 for sure.
I'm just not playing it as much lately. Still a great game though!
Nice list, although my tastes align much more with Colin. Still enjoyed watching this video series
Colin's taste usually align with mine. Many of my top games are also his. So I'm not sure what you mean ;)
@@OneStopCoopShop i find he's more into dungeon crawlers and adventure games
@erikpeters7072 I’d say we are equally into adventure games, generally speaking. Arkham and LOTR lcg and mage knight and the like. But yeah, you’re right, he and Bairnt are more likely to play crawlers!
Maybe it's cause he did a lot of videos when he was on here like his favorite dungeon crawlers and adventure games. I pretty much exclusively play those types of games. My top 10 games would be
Isofarian Guard
Agemonia
Tales from the red dragon inn
Roll player adventures
Arena the contest
Hexplore it
Eldritch Horror
Folklore the affliction
Chronicles of Drunagor
Oathsworn
@user-bh1rm1rk8x great list! Of those the only one I actively didn’t like much was hexplore it. I have a review copy of drunagor but haven’t played it yet
Hey Mike which Exceed set is your favorite and what are your thoughts on the Guilty GEar iteration?
I LOVE what I’ve seen of guilty gear so far. It emphasizes playing boosts (cards that give you bonuses for the next attack) more, which I enjoy.
For favorite, season 2 was the craziest (kind of too crazy, but cool), while I think season 5 or 6 (blazblue and under night) are their best designs so far
I love that you put big and party games in your list :) it's a good list, but now I need to try a lot of games 😂
Thanks for watching them all!
At least glad to see bullet at the top 3 yayyy
Summoner Wars 2nd is SO good. Not my favorite skirmish, but I can see it.
WotR though...wow. That game lived up to the hype. Such an amazing system and dripping in theme.
It’s still my LOTR dream game :)
Playing through the tales from the red dragon inn right now based on your recommendations and I have to say... It's just so good.
So happy to hear it!
Just curious, have you tried Puzzle Strike II? It gives me Bullet vibes but at a turn-based pace. (Also, if you've tried Age of Galaxy.)
If one were to start with Exceed, any suggestions for purchase order?
I love the Nature Incarnate expansion for Spirit Island, but it's definitely not a necessity. The truly essential expansion (Jagged Earth) has started release on the app in stages.
Yeah, I stopped with jagged earth. It was enough :)
I used to love the original puzzle strike, but haven’t played it much in a while. I tried a demo of puzzle strike 2… wasn’t digging it. Didn’t feel quite balanced yet. But that’s par for the course for sirlin games. He usually needs 2-3 revisions of a design to get it right 😅
For exceed, it’s partially based on IP preference. My kids like shovel knight and street fighter, so those are frequently played for us. But mechanically I think the last two seasons, under night and blazblue, are the best and most interesting they’ve done.
Great list, Mike! You’ve inspired me to get Bullet to the table this month.
For Sentinels, I’m pretty sure I have the older edition. Will the new edition rules work with my older game?
It’s not the rules that have changed, really. Unfortunately it’s the cards/characters themselves. Everything is HUGELY rebalanced and changed and redesigned. But there’s nothing wrong with your old version. It’s still good!
Awesome list, your enthusiasm is fabulous!
Thanks so much!
You have an awesome list, I really enjoyed all the top 100 videos, thanks ! Also, finally someone who appreciates Sentinels, such a great game !
EDIT: EXCEED ???? Wow Mike, you're full of surprises ! Nice ! I have two questions. Why EXCEED and not Indines since they are similar ? I would guess because Indines is longer ? Also, have you tried Pixel Tactics ? If not, I wholeheartedly recommend it !
Battlecon/indines was earlier on the list. I enjoy it, but find the ante phase can slow things down, and I kind of prefer having less info instead of more. But it’s still great!
Pixel tactics was a bit too “mean” for my family. The combos you can pull off are awesome, but also frustrating 😜
Great list! I'd love to play many of them but sadly don't have the right people to play it with. E.g. Exceed seems like it asks for some time investment and I don't know anyone who'd be willing
That’s why I designed the solo mode for exceed, so it’s more frequently playable. But yes, it definitely shines best with a steady opponent
Just few weeks ago I finally found Bullet (both Heart & Star) available in EU after trying to find them at a reasonable price for couple of years. Bullet is one of those games that people keep praising but usually (=always) lighter 10-30 minute games fail to entertain me past couple of plays, especially when played solo. Bullet has completely surpassed my expectations and has quickly moved into a permanent slot in my collection.
#3 is a very high ranking for a (relatively) simple game like Bullet but I now understand why people love this game.
Glad you found a copy and enjoyed it! It’s a quick game, but I still find it tactically engaging and challenging
Excellent list man. You've likely just sold a ton of copies of Exceed. Definitely sold me on it!
Try out my solo mode, and let me know if you have any questions :)
@@OneStopCoopShopWill do!
I hear such good things about Arkham Horror, but I don't know that I want to put $1k into a single game. Can it be enjoyed more casually, or do you have to really invest time and $ to make it worth it?
The thing that turns me off of CCG like Pokemon and Magic is that you need to really stay on top of the Meta almost constantly to be competitive at all. So it's fun and keeps it interesting for a long time, but it feels like if you do something else for a while then suddenly to pick the game up again you have to "catch up" on all that you missed. Does Arkham Horror have that same issue?
The nice thing about Arkham (and the other cooperative fantasy flight LCGs, Lord of the Rings and Marvel Champions) is that since they are cooperative there is no "keeping up" or "meta" you have to stay on top of. You can buy what you want, play what you want, without any of that stress.
But yes, Arkham's cost can build up quickly, if you get into it. You'd probably want to buy the revised core and one set of investigator and campaign expansions (I'd start with Dunwich Legacy). That will give you a short and a long campaign to play, and 10 characters to play around with. But that's also close to $150 investment by itself, so it isn't cheap even to start out!
War of the Ring is an impossible game. It's one of the biggest crunchiest games out there, and yet, each turn is incredibly simple and fast. It is a five hour game which feels like it takes an hour.
And that's before you get into the incredible alt-history and theme.
Couldn't agree more. It's fabulous!
Thanks Mike. I always love seeing your top games.
Thanks for watching Kevin!
Hey Mike, You mentioned Advanced Squad Leader in Combat Commander Europe. What's your thoughts on it? Very old school
Oh I dunno, I haven’t played ASL in forever!
Would you say Exceed is worth getting only for solo? I'm really intrigued by the system, but its really hard to table 2p games where I live
I think it'd be worth picking up one box set to see how much you enjoy it. I think the solo is great, but I'm clearly super biased :)
I like The Crew... but Tichu is the trick taking king.
Still never played this one!
@@OneStopCoopShopyou should!
EXCEED Fighting System is the bomb! Don't sell your solitaire system for EXCEED short either, it's great!
Thank you so much! I’m excited to try to make it work with guilty gear next
Seeing Summoner Wars so high up makes me happy. Sadly, I bought sooooo much first edition
I did too 😅😅😅😅
Just got Tales from the Red Dragon Inn because of you! Agree with a lot of your Top 20! Thanks Mike!
Hope you have a great time with Tales!
Have you played Earthborne Rangers? It seems like a better version of Arkham
I love Earthborne Rangers! I want to finish the campaign before I rank it higher in my top 100, but it’s a great game.
But for my tastes, I definitely wouldn’t rank it above Arkham
I also like Exceed and i try came up with different variants for the single player
Hope they turned out well!
Let's go!! Your taste align with mine so much it's crazy. Exceed is also my #1 board game and SW is in my top 10. Variable player powers and tactical gameplay are mechanics I love the most in board games
That’s awesome! Kindred spirits ❤️
Great list Mike! I’m on the fence getting War of the ring because I can only play it exclusively solo, but this video might just push me to pull the trigger!
I would not buy it for solo, personally. There is a fan variant on BGG, but Colin told me it’s really onerous and annoying to run
@@OneStopCoopShop ahhh that’s a shame, it looks so good for LOTR fans.
@yxygogo the lord of the ring LCG, the Reiner Knizia lord of the rings, journeys in middle earth, and the adventure book game are all decent to great, but none of them quite feel like lord of the rings to me 😅
@@OneStopCoopShop true, I think War of the ring really shows how grand the world of middle earth is with how all the factions interacting differently on a huge map.
Interesting list. I don't even think I can do 20 haha
Mage Knight
Nemesis
Oathsworn
Black Rose Wars: Rebirth (blown away by this one)
Arkham Horror: LCG
Dune: Imperium
Spirit Island
Spiritual Warfare (my design that no one but my family has played haha)
Bloodborne: The Board Game
Tournament Fishing
Cthulhu: Death May Die
Marvel Champions
Heat: Pedal to the Metal
Nice list. I’ve heard good things about black rose wars.
@@OneStopCoopShop - You will love it, mage battler with programming and pretty decent AI for the Avatars as well. I've described it as a mix of Mage Knight and Super Smash Bros.
Love your videos. You have great enthusiasm and descriptions. Thank you!
All videos in that series were fun and interesting, thank you!
I got just as much enjoyment seeing Telestrations at #5 as you did lol
Just played it last week with my students again. Hilarity ensued :)
I only got 1 of those, and I don't play to buy any more of them.
Nothing wrong with people having different tastes! What are some of your top games?
Hi Mike are you familiar with the tier ranking list?
If so I know it's less your style but can you please do a tier list on the heroes and bosses of bullet?
It will be a great way to celebrate it being on your top 3
You are making the assumption that I’ve had time recently to play every boss and heroine and would be an expert on such things 😜
I love the game, but with my review schedule I don’t actually play it super often.
Exceed is special in that my kids want to play it every day, so that one I do actually get a lot of play time with.
Oh OK got it
Yeah I thought you did play every hero and every boss (not always each match up of course) but still have enough idea how to rank them in terms on difficulty or even just fun factor
Maybe someday of you will, let me know 😉
Always forget that you are mostly bound to the new hotness haha
I wish to do this kind of ranking myself but also like you don't have the time to play
Yay, AHLCG!
Exciting. Thanks Mike.
Second thoughts, too many party games! Get your coat, Mike! 😉
Co-op games for the win!
Great list - and I think it's fantastic that you included some party games. Sometimes we take ourselves too seriously as boardgamers. Telestrations is a blast!
Great list! You introduced me to Bullet and it's one of my favs! This also might get me to finally order a copy of red dragon inn adventures
Hope you have fun with it!
Thanks for the amazing videos. Im just new in solo boardgaming and put some intersting ones on my wishlist to check out.
I have played spirit island for a week now and its a blast. Also have mage knight waiting to be played ❤️
You’re starting with some all-timers!
Great list, including many of my favorites. Ive been curious about Sentinels for a while now but have seen conflicting things about it for two players. What is your take?
2-player requires house rules or two-handing, and two-handing can be intense when you are learning the game.
I’ve played 2-player with a house rule where you basically have a third “helper” character who takes damage for you, but you each get an extra play or power on their turn. It’s not perfectly balanced but works smoothly
I value your opinion, Mike, so I added a few games to my wishlist/check-out-list now. And some that were already on there got moved up ... Thanks for doing this!
Hope I don’t lead you wrong!
It’s really interesting that you don’t have any typical resource collection or point salad euro games on your list. Nice to see a list that exhibits such different taste.
If you haven't yet, watch the 40-21 video. I think that had at least 4 of my favorite euros on it. They aren't missing entirely :)
I love the party games, Mike! Thanks for having us on this list again at number 3 AND 1! "Get to the table and play in 15 minutes" is truly the Exceed experience! Besides, it gives you more time to play MORE games of it! :)
I need to start working on Bullet Smorgasbord.
Not sure what the icon would be for a smorgasbord 😜
Hey Mike, love the content! I was wondering what clear sleeves you use for games that have a lot of cards?
I’m not much of a sleever, so I’m probably not too helpful. I tend to buy the sleeve kings penny sleeves
Of all board game reviewers on RUclips, I think Mike and I have the most alignment. Love the list.
Your user name shows me we are kindred spirits 😜
Telestrations would be in my top 10 as well. Great list Mike 👌
It’s great ❤️
I enjoyed every video in this series, thanks for making it. Your enthusiasm is great!
Thanks so much!
Only saw your top 20 list so perhaps this was listed higher up but what do you think of Lord of the Rings The Card Game from FFG? It ranks that right up there with Arkham Horror LCG for me.
Great game, but it’s my least favorite of the 3 co-op LCGs, personally. It didn’t make my top 100
Wow that’s interesting!
Later you called Agemonia one of your top games of the year, but maybe you hadn't played it yet when you made this video? What do you tt, would it rank high on yoyall time list?
I think it IS in one of the earlier videos… maybe 21-40? Hard to remember!
@@OneStopCoopShop I missed it before but I went back and found it at #41. So do you like Tales from the Red Dragon Inn a lot more in the sort of adventure/crawler character progression kind of genres?
Thanks for the list and the brief overviews. Production quality suggestion, consider a better quality Mike. Even an entry USB Fifine Condenser AM8 with some basic OBS plugins (eq, compressor, expander) would do magic.
Keep up the good work, love the content.
Not sure what you are referring to here. The camera? It’s my iPhone filming. The green screen?
@@OneStopCoopShop Mike, my bad it was supposed to be mic as Microphone. The one you're wearing using sounds very flat.
@MartinRonky ohhh, yes, that I can agree with. I’ll check out the ones you mentioned. I need a head worn mic (only thing that’s feasible for recording my plays), so that limits things a good bit
@@OneStopCoopShop Ah I see, that head wearing makes sense. When it comes to head worn microphones, I have good experience with Antlion microphone, that is attachable to any headphones, so maybe they have a standalone version. But first, try even just the OBS plugins, they are free, the EQ might help.
My top 6 board games are: This War of Mine, Bloodborne, Fallout, Arkham Horror 3rd Ed, Star Wars Outer Rim & Dead of Winter:The Long Night, I can play them without ever getting tired of them--point being, I loved that your list was honest to what appeals to you!! Great list, it was fun watching your countdown!
Thanks, and great choices for your top 6!