63 St Tunnel Closure
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2023
- As part of our efforts to improve the reliability of the system, we're temporarily closing the tunnel between Queens and Manhattan that carries the F train. Learn about the project and travel alternatives at new.mta.info/article/service-...
Please do these all the time. Even if they're lower production budget, this will be invaluable.
Thanks for releasing this MTA. A few days before this will actually happen.
They've been talking about it for a while. Not their fault you don't keep up
@@dexterdugarjr.3217Can't keep up with what doesn't exist. Has MTA made a video about this before today?
@@samuelitooooo You know, the MTA has a website where you can R-E-A-D about these things. Months in advance. Especially for big service changes like this. There's a lot on that site.
@@dexterdugarjr.3217 If that's the case, why make a channel for people to W-A-T-C-H? lmao
@@dexterdugarjr.3217 I do keep up, about time they released a video is what I am trying to say. Stfu and stop thinking shit that u don't know
Appreciate the effort the MTA is putting into maintenance, it might feel like pre-2001 but with more quieter tracks as a bonus.
The shuttle buses are the Q94 and Q95 for anyone wanting to track them. They were mentioned in the leaflet handed out at the stations but not anywhere online
cap cap it's on bustime
FUCKING THANK YOU. Ive been trying to figure this out for weeks
Awesome video, MTA.
Thanks a lot MTA, you’re stranding people on the F b/w Queens and Manhattan 24/7, for many months
Edit: 1:09 Nevermind, at least you’re not forcing those people to be stuck
At rush hours, some of those extra R trains operating during this service change end at either 36th Street or 59th Street (along 4th Avenue) in Brooklyn, due to the lack of capacity at Bay Ridge-95th Street.
The M terminating at 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Ctr and 57 St sure will bring alot of foamers... I do wanna hear those announcements tho
Same LOL
I know the M ending at 57th Street used to happen when L trains were cut from Manhattan before 2017. Once the Second Avenue Subway opened in 2017, M trains running to Manhattan to replace L trains were normally sent to 96th Street on the Q line to ease service with F trains at 57th Street.
This service change brings back that era a bit for the M in some ways and it’s good that the M to 57 program still exists.
😂
Nice, right after I start needing that line again after not needing for three years.
Thanks for telling us the information about the closure of 63rd Street, MTA. : )
I miss having M trains in Queens, and I miss having F trains along 63rd Street, but this service change will be over soon and hopefully there won’t have to be too many further 63rd Street Tunnel closures too soon by that point.
G to 71st like in the old days
Agreed they really should extend the G to help the R
I wish it could happen. But it's not happening because the G would need to be a full set. Run 5 cars on that line, we'll be subjected to 12+ minute headways.
G should go to 71 to help QBL local.
Exactly
This would actually tank the G trains frequency
5 car G trains won’t help at all
10 or 8 cars would help
@@56CharlesTadareChannel.There aren't enough cars or train crews to run 10 car G trains between Church Avenue and Forest Hills.
G to forest hill to help the R😭
Fr bro!
I'd agree but only when the M isn't going to forest hills (Weekends, late nights). This is an instance id fully agree to send the G to 71st Avenue at all times
@@logik_08 yeah so that it could help the R train!
yea exactly
on god bro
Extend the G to forrest hills. Wont matter if R has "added service" since it's always delayed. I'm tired of waiting 17 minutes on a good day for a single R train to show up...
You’ll be riding on a 5 car Set of G trains which aren’t long enough to carry passengers during rush hours
Wouldn't you think I know that already? Do you even live on the R line? If no then don't bother replying. Rather have more trains showing up even if it's just a 5 car set every few minutes as opposed to waiting almost 20 minutes for just ONE 10 car train.
@@nyctransitrailfanyou see that with the m train right ?
It’s going to be a mess just relying on the r train smh
@@Frankieefootballmundial we’re talking about a 5 set car not a 8 car long M
Welp, looks like it’s time for some banger announcements!
ALSO OMG M TO 57? NOSTALGIA!
UPDATE: M and F trains have resumed normal service. M trains now run between Forest Hills-71 Av and Middle Village-Metropolitan Ave. F trains run between Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue and Jamaica-179 St. The F shuttle is no longer running and replaced by normal F train service between 21 St-Queensbridge and Lexington Avenue-63 St
It is inconvenient but will be invaluable in the long run.
You should add a link to this video on the posters at the stations!
you mean qr code since nobody be typing a link in?
Clicked on this faster than the 7 express 😂
Nobody is laughing at your corny jokes
I been knowing this because at the start of this month, i was at 5 Avenue-53 Street and i saw a poster about it
G train should help out with the R train on QBL.
Are there modified stop announcement profiles for these reroutes and shuttles?
The F shuttle uses two programs apparently, a few splices of regular F announcements if it carries the F sign, and a newly set up program if it carries the S sign. Apparently, the programs have rotated quite a lot between F and S for that F shuttle train.
You guys are taking your sweet fucking time with this.
EXACTLY
What is happening with F service in Brooklyn with rain storm
F train should be with the E train on 53 street line After construction is Done.
Mta you should have the G train running to Forest hill 71 ave because R train runs by its self could you make this happen
Will the F not serve 57th st anymore?
Now 63rd Street Line Service is restored. This video aged well.
Does it go local in Queens or express
It's running on e line
Is this affecting LIRR service below the F train to grand central?
Nope
No. Why would it ?
Nah
@@williamerazo3921cause that also uses the 63rd st tunnel
@@avimo2565It’s an entirely separate facility from the upper level tracks.
And 7 months, the F & M Trains run back to normal
When construction is done, I think it is most likely that the tunnel swap will be permanent.
If so, I'll miss the F train via 63rd. Perhaps I can have nostalgic moments like these when the F returns to 63rd during late nights and possibly weekends.
I hope not, I think it would cause unnecessary confusion and create more problems than it solves. Plus the deinterlining community will be insufferable
@@ianrotheroe2540This would be the only Deinterlining that actually good.
Maybe f line closures 63rd Street Use already by M train at 53rd Street
Why can’t the M train go to Lexington Avenue, 63rd St. or 21st St., Queens Bridge during weekdays only.
The curve is out of commission.
The reason they cant run (M) trains via 63rd Street is because 1 of the 2 tracks in the 63rd Street tunnel is unavailable. Altho there is an x crossover west of 21 St, that section is being worked on, so trains cant switch to being on 1 track in that section. But even if there was a way to switch (M) trains on 1 track, expect its frequency to be every 12 minutes, which is very unreliable.
That time of year everyone
I'm confused. The tunnel is closing but they're still running shuttle trains through that same tunnel?
One track will be taken out at a time for this work.
@@TheRailLeaguerGot it. So they're not closing the tunnel. It's a partial closure of the section of track within the tunnel. The title is a bit misleading.
@@NYCerious It’s a partial closure to an extent but the part that’s being fully closed is the curve under Central
Park go to from 6th Avenue to 63rd Street.
At least that’s what I think it is. I’m not sure how this shuttles going to work for the track replacement on the 63rd Street Tunnel, which opened in 1989.
@@TheRailLeaguerThat would make sense but they do not mention anything about that portion of the track. In fact, they specifically say and highlight only the "tunnel between Queens and Manhattan."
After all the work is done, all train services return to normal?
Most likely, unless the MTA starts more work right after.
@@josephrosner905 true true in the future
F via M from 47-50 st to Jackson heights 74 st. No M traín from 47-50 st to forest hills 71 Av and end at 57 st.
nobody ever angered me in this world harder than the MTA ong
I Honestly think Ya should keep the F via 53rd and M via 63rd after the completion
Bad idea
no
Because F and M train users will be pretty confused
I can see u trying to partially deinterline Queens Blvd, but to fully deinterline, put both the (F/M) on 63rd and QBL local, and (E) on 53rd and QBL express. The (R) gets sent to Astoria, the (N) to 96 St and the (W) being suspended.
no. the E already does that
Major but needed.
For anyone saying the G should go to Forest Hills, it can't without extra units. If it doesn't use extra units, it's going to be running about every 12+ minutes because it has more stops to make. This will make the crosstown portion of the line (where it runs by itself) worse.
Some of the M train sets should be lent to the G then, since the M isn't running the entire route.
EDIT: MTA chose to give them to the C instead. sigh
True, but the MTA could take some units from the W and put them on the G, with the lower frequency on the W offset by higher frequency on the R.
The F should just run up to 96th street and have the M extended to Jamaica
This is unnecessary or better yet increase G train service and extend it to Coney Island and have it be lent units from the F this way everybodies happy
M train units can supplement the G . Boom I. Fix hit for you 😒
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497The 63rd Street Tunnel work includes the corner linking the 57th Street station to Lexington-63rd. Therefore 6th Avenue trains are unable to access the 2nd Avenue Line.
I waited 30 minutes for an R this morning. Late for work.
This aged well, today is the last day M trains will terminate to 57st/6ave
Why not send the M to 96 St/2 Av for a smoother terminal.
And yes send the G to 71 Av to supplement the R
The curve to the 63rd Street Line is also taken out of service for the work.
Or, why not send the M via 63rd Street and Keep the F via 53rd? Because by doing this 2 issues can be resolved, that being Queens Plaza, and 36th Street.
At least for the holiday season of 2023, the 53rd Street Tunnel can’t shut down due to this F train corridor project.
Please consider sending the M via 63rd Street after the construction.
Nah, that's not happening.
@@the-renegade yeah unfortunately
@@Parzival899 It isn't unfortunate, the F service is fine.
I was hoping F trains terminate at 96th street since Q train frequencies are kinda terrible and F train frequencies are terriffic and keeping the M with its normal routes. The Q line might be able to get a few extra r160's or just have more F trains go to coney island which is a win win for most people. The F train shuttle is a smart idea though!
One track at 57th Street-6th Avenue is closed for track renovation as the project will also include the curve going between the 6th Avenue Line and the 63rd Street Line,
The problem is though, the tunnel between 57th Street-6th Avenue and Lexington Avenue-63rd Street had to fully shut down, as well as the tunnel between the IND Queens Boulevard Line and 21st Street-Queensbridge.
Well, today is the last day of F shuttle train.
The F Train ran at 53rd Street in the past.
It's just returning to its 53 st roots
@@TheLordAI 1990s vibes.
Yes we know
@@SonicWilliamXyou mean 1940s vibe 🤦♂️
@@williamerazo3921 Same thing.
The G isn't going to 71 Ave can y'all stop. They're added extra service on the R, also E and F train will be running local from 10 am to 11am on weekdays.
Were NOT GONNA STOP OKAY BUDDYYYYYYY!!! But anyways, we dont know how much the (R)’s service is increased, but knowing the MTA, it’s probably an added 3 trains per hour, which is almost nothing. Also, idk who told u the (E/F) are running local, but theyre probably wrong. If they aren’t wrong, QBL local tracks can’t handle 3 services. Also, the (G) getting extended to Forest Hills will add more service to QBL local than the (R)’s “increased service”. Also, since the (M) is being shortened and the (G) would be longer, we can give more trains to the (G), which can also boost service where the (G) runs alone.
@@josephrosner905bro I use the E an F all the time and some of them do run local. Also don’t be such a foamer about the “G to forest hills “ you sound like a degenerate with nothing better going on in your life
Me: Engrossed in this video Google recommended for me
Also me: Doesn't live anywhere near New York
I could also take the Roosevelt island sky tram for service between Manhattan and Roosevelt Island.
Yeah
Yeah the tram is convenient.
this is insane, just my school started and they rerouting f train on m line. wth they were doing in summer
Installing CBTC I guess
rerouting the f made my school journey easier lmao. Also probably installing cbtc and improving frequency on trains like the r
The work was done on 53, it’s the 63 tunnels themselves that need rebuilding not just track
Working the tourist industry
This project was supposed to start in June until it was delayed
MTA SERVICE BUSES MTA OK BY the Bx19 and the B46 SBS is OK
How about you (F)ix the (M)igraines aka the non-stop delays⁉️ LOL 💀💯
*dies of cringe*
imagine trying to explain this to a tourist
I am a tourist lol. Trying to stay on top of this. Worst nightmare is booking accomadations based on transit and having it not run when Im there
Lol, but a tip for the NYC subway is that multiple lines are on the same color. All the orange lines run along 6 Av in Midtown Manhattan. Two of those lines (which are the (F) and (M) trains) are being affected from this.
I love the NYC system for this reason. I live in Toronto and if there is any hiccup whatsoever you're screwed.@@josephrosner905
They should have did one direction at a time
They are single-tracking on the Manhattan-bound track though the entire curve under Central Park is closed.
They are closing 1 track at a time, and the other track will be used for an (F) train shuttle from Lex. Av 63 St and 21 St Queensbridge. Because only 1 track is available, there is only 1 train able to run on it, and this train comes every 20 minutes. If anything happens to this 1 train, expect your unreliable shuttle to go bye bye.
SEND THE G TO FOREST HILLS
Just add another train on the line
Say on god
Just put the f express like the e train
Please keep the swap for good, this avoids delays and its deinterlining.
Oh no,MTA that was terrible news, Like. wasn't that worse.
When the M return to forest hills January 2024 the end of 2024 mid or early 2024
early 2024
F stop via M. Stop Lex 53,Lex av 53 st 6 train man
#jajsjsjsjsss
Epic
This is really gonna screw up a lot of people
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0:23 WAIT THATS NOT TRUE
63 Street Tunnel is closed? How bad. (F)(F) via (M)(M) bruh
Here is the replacement between E and F
53 Street \ Lexington Avenue (E) (F) (6)
Ayo,Wasnt that rosvelt island shuttle.
BrO how SuPrIsEd