Tracy McGrady vs Steve Francis Full Duel 2005.01.20 - T-Mac's 1st Orlando RETURN!
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- Tracy McGrady With 27 Pts, 6 Rebs, 4 Asts in an hostile Orlando retrun vs Steve Francis Who had 28 Pts, 9 Asts Full Duel | Jan 20, 2005 | Houston Rockets vs Orlando Magic - T-Mac's 1st Orlando RETURN! ---Follow me on Twitter - / dawkinsmta
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Man the good old days.
Steve Francis was once my favorite player. Too shame his career was destroyed by injury and drugs.
Same brother
I don’t know about drugs but he definitely admits to alcohol.
just alcohol not drugs, stevie specifically said that it breaks his heart that people tend to think drugs was the thing that broke his career.
Actually it was just injuries. He didn't start drinking hard until after the injuries.
Prime Franchise would even be better in today's point guard friendly rules. He had great handles and decent range.
And jumped outta the building he would've been prime Rose or Jah
Damn I haven't seen a Steve Francis video in a hot minute 🔥🔥👌
Actually thought it would be highlights of Francis on Rockets and Mcgrady on Magic.
So you didn't see that big as thumbnail
If only these two never had injury problems man.
Steve Kerr is speaking out of his ass. How does he fail to mention the fact that those "Superstars" all had STACKED rosters??
Kiss the rings.
They didn’t always have stacked rosters and still fought against every game no matter how bad the team was. Tmac was my favorite player growing up and I watched every game he was in………but when he took the court against dudes like Kobe Or d-wade there was a clear difference in intensity and willpower even though talent wise tmac was just as good if not better.
PLEASE POST MORE THROWBACK STEVE FANCIS HIGHLIGHTS
Steve is underrated asf
Nah he isn't just wasn't good enough to get talked about
Imagine if Steve can keep his body
*overrated
XChronicHash L
Nah he just fcked up and let himself go. He was Nasty AF
Damn they had Dwight Howard grant hill And Francis. What could've been 🤦🏿♂️
steve kerr was on tmacs ass lmao
Come on now Kerr let’s keep it real he just broke down what he meant he didn’t sell games the way Kerr keep implying all he did was say what every superstar is thinking then they have a below .500 team you literally pull up highlights of superstars quitting on their team mid game 😭 T-Mac was a dog a killer injuries just kilt his potential
Javone Goodman thing also with tmac is. If you watch those games in 04 nobody on his team could play defense it was fucking horrendus. He has a game where he drops 51 on the nuggets, on like 60% shooting hitting 5 threes in the last 3 min of the game. And losing. Because they cant play defencd
Kerr doesn't understand what it's like to be a superstar and nobody else on the squad can do anything to help on offence or defence. He doesn't understand the mental frustration Mcgrady spoke about and was never in the situation..so I'm not sure how he could judge so harshly.
Mcgrady was a superstar, not just an all-star. To say otherwise is rediculous.
Talking about Kobe would never quit, Kobe played with Shaq and never had to suffer like Mcgrady did. And when he did get a bum squad..he did exactly like Mcgrady did, ask for a trade.
Javone Goodman Also what's hilarious about this is that he completely ignored the fact that the Magic front office traded away everyone that was good on his team after the previous playoff year. Look at the youth they had along with their production and you'll see they were traded the very next season. That's on top of Doc Rivers having no gameplan whatsoever other than ride Tmac.
Notice its only the real fans that know exactly what happened. T-Macs team in 04 was about as worst as it gets. Just watch their games. I havent seen anyone carry that badly.
@@klevdud ey watch it... don't leave out ty lue
This battle is UNDERRATED! I think this is one of the most equal trades. Both teams got a W Mac & franchize both cold AF. Mac was my favorite player growing up. Wish Stevie didnt go into depression and start abusing drugs. Smh.
damn steve francis was a beast in his prime
These 2 players were my favorite players in the league. N its funny they were both on the magic and rockets at 1 point in their careers. Obviously traded but could you imagine if they played on the same together!! Man that would of been some crazy stuff!!
And they will get a rings or many Championships on Orlando Magic Franchise History
They actually did play on the same team when rockets had coach Adelman we had tmac Ron artest yao Lowry bonzi wells and Bobby Jackson but think Steve couldn't find a spot on rotation so he played garbage mins
Tmac was a super star Kerr mad cause he never could be one🤷🏾♂️
No he wasn't
It's cool to see so many here showing Stevie Franchise some love. He declined way too soon and was definitely one of the most exciting players at the time. The combination of his vertical and handles were crazy. I grew up with A.I., Kobe and MJ but I remember liking Stevie a lot and even began liking Reebok again because of him. His signatures weren't bad at the time.
Prime T-Mac. Nothing more to say. Injuries are a bitch😡
Bruh franchise walk away over a bogus contract.
T-mac self diagnosed his injury, got the wrong surgery.. then he decline and chase bags... terrible thing to do
He was like Kyrie irving with ups
Francis first year in Orlando was so underrated.
Wow im from Houston and i dont remember the legend rod strickland playing for the rockets
The announcer was 100% correct about all stars and superstars
Steve Francis handles was crazy he brought streetball back to the league
Healthy T-Mac was UNSTOPPABLE but Smooth. Never seen a more smoother scorer ever since .
His work ethic wasn't there🤦🏿♂️ man I had his Jersey
@@shantarobinson7595 lol you believe that shit? the man can't be the league 2x scoring leader without work ethic.. not everyone has Kobe or MJ work ethic dude..
Steve Francis is a bigger what if than Mcgrady. Steve was a beast that time forgot
It's crazy that with both players....as soon as the trade happened, Steve just fell out of love for the game it seems and just got bad...like terrible. He loved Houston, I think it was something about leaving Houston that messed him up as a player.
For McGrady, as soon as he got trade to Houston, he was injury prone right off the bat. Couldn't stay on the court to save him or his teams life. His back problems were the ice pick in his back, no pun intended, that never let him be great...a true great with rings. The fact that he never got passed the 1st round of the playoffs being as great as he was....just wow
Both players just had tremendously bad luck after they were traded for each other.
T-Mac was wack af on the Rockets. He had such a good team surrounding him but he continuously was sorry. That's why he got dunked on by Francis at the end. No great player would let another man dunk on him even if the game is already won. That was the stupidest trade ever.
Steve Francis
Mike
Pippen
LBJ
Hakeem
That's my all time 5.
Resumes and accolades idgaf.
This would be my dream squad
TMac
Carter
Nowitski
Garnett
Shaq
Baron Davis is my guy too..would love to see him vs Francis in their prime
Iverson
TMac
LBJ
Kareem
Shaq
Kyrie T Mac Young Bron Garnett/Bill Russell and Wilt
@@QankoIvanov Tmac and lebron and kyrie ... damn.
Its crazy how players in that era really looked for that open mid range shot. Nowadays u really dont see that, every wants the open three ball now
Because it’s more efficient it makes a lot of sense actually lolz
STEVE FRANCIS WAS LIGHTING QUICK!!!
Damn I miss Stevie Franchise, one of the more exciting players to watch.
squadup22 now hes a drug addict
More ? I see people using one of the more?? Are you guys fucking braindeads or is it relevant
Atilla Cinar I’m not and it’s not, it’s a utube comment section, don’t take urself to serious.
Shout out to Rod Strickland @ 2:13. Kyries godfather
Gentleman. LOWS yep
Need more tmac highlights
Magic fans terrible for booing this man. He gave everything, played with injuries and meanwhile they surrounded him with Matr Declerq, the corpse of Shawn Kemp and Keith Bogins.
Classic matchup between T-Mac and Stevie Franchise....had injuries not slowed T Mac and Stevie Franchise down, they’d be on the top list of NBA greats....also this was a month before Cuttino Mobley was traded to Sacramento and after Cuttino Mobley traded, Steve Francis career was never the same....
Can you post francis vs lebron on lebrons rookie year????
Steve Kerr came at T-Mac’s manhood 💀
Jason Murray fax
I see where donkey got his signature move
C B winning rings? Yeah he got that from Kerr
He was speaking facts
Truth be told!!! It is what it shall be!!!
I was at that game. That was my first magic game ever
T-Mac is underrated to this day this guy was really nice out there....
Really cool to watch this stuff, thanks for posting
BADASS DUEL. I just want to see a Tim Duncan vs Kobe Bryant duel, I would love to see some Lakers vs Spurs up in this.
Craig Sager reporting :/
4:43 that's gotta be one of the dumbest remarks I've ever heard. Did he said that McGrady wasn't a superstar in 2004?! It's funny that he mentioned Kobe with all those name when in fact he couldn't lead a team with Butler and Odom on his side to the playoffs...and a year later, he gave up in the playoffs against an Amare-less Suns. FOH!
hus hus That was the first thing that came to my mind lol. He set himself up saying that..
hus hus Kobe overrated as usual
steve kerr went on to mention larry and magic, both players who had SUPER teams. Put any one of those guys on the team tmac was on during their 20-win season and see if they lead them any better. Anyone can play "with fire" but if you dont have a good team behind it, you're just a passionate guy who loses the same. Not to mention, tmac wasted several of his prime years in succession on teams like that Orlando team before the trade. Kobe would have demanded a trade if every year the GM accumulated less and less talent and it culminated in a 20-win team.
@Keyboard Legend i agree tmac isnt kobe calibur. but it wasnt right for kerr to state something like that at the time, esp tmac coming coming off a 32 6, 6 season. i mean you cant just throw that away, you just cant. Now that its all said and done, yes tmac did not have a superstar career like kobe but early 2000s tmac and kobe were going head to head. kerr never liked mcgrady for some reason, every tmac game he broadcast he would always criticize.
@Keyboard Legend but your definitely right, tmac no where near had the career kobe had. people tend to blow that out of proportion! talent wise hes up there but kobes legacy is something else and obviously jordan. tmac is my fav player however because of style of play. he was so damn smooth
I cried when I saw this game tmac is my all-time favorite player and I never wanted to see him in another jersey
Top fun to watch player of all time steve... he had the hoops and one of the best crossover of all time
My boy franchise!
The franchise !!
I’m one of the biggest TMac fans ever, and I know he didn’t have teams like Kobe or MJ, heck even Wade and Bron, but what Kerr said was right. He didn’t have the killer mentality and wasn’t that hungry to be better and ask more of his teammates. Why everyone mad at Kerr? It’s a compliment for Kerr to even put T Mac in the same sentence with MJ, cause Kerr is no dummy, he sees the raw potential Mac had. He had all the tools, except the injury bug on his back couldn’t leave him alone, and Orlando management couldn’t build a right team around him.
And and I'm a Vince Carter fan... When LeBron had to do it he couldn't do it so he teamed up with Wade when Wade had to do it that one year he couldn't do it so he got LeBron.... T-Mac and Vince Carter did it for years never got help except that one year where T-Mac got arrest but the injury bug got him.... Vince Carter got it with Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson.... Both were recovering from injuries while Vince Carter was at his peak.... It's just the luck of the draw it is what it is but let's not act like if Michael Jordan.... Didn't have legendary coach and great role players which were great players in other teams before joining MJ... And Kobe never did it without the same coach as Jordan
.... LeBron didn't do it with slacker of coaches either.... But tell me what great system that T-Mac or Vince Carter ever played in where it wasn't simply give them the ball and get out the way....
Damn steve was a problem!
4:23 Lol what's this Superstar, All-star BS that Steve Kert was blabbing about.. T-Mac was dealing with constant injuries and had no help in Orlando.. but when healthy he was SICKER than 98% of the superstars that guy could ever name..
Stevie franchise had the whole package
I’ve been looking for this for years 😂😂😂😂
In 2005 you had the pistons spurs mavericks heat and my phoenix suns all considered title contenders.this era in the modern nba you know who's gonna win even before the season starts. Damn.
The four years tmac was in Orlando ghill couldn't play smh soon as Mac leaves grant makes the all star team
Steven Brazzell hill was always injured when he was with tmac research first before commenting
Steven Brazzell where did you say he was injured? Your comment was implying that tmac was preventing him to play on a hight level, are you a kid? Only kids will resort to such childish insults. Grow up 😊
Kim Lacuata you're a idiot
Kim Lacuata Youre reaching bruh. The way I read it, hes saying its unfortunate GHill became healthy the year T-Mac left.
M4C thank you
Still got both Orlando jerseys
More Francis highlights please. From Orlando!
5:00 the commentator said tmac wasn’t a superstar. That is such a BS opinion, tmac is as good as kevin durant. You could replace KD with a prime tmac and the warriors wouldn’t miss a beat
T-Mac the Man!
Two of the best guards of the 2000's I honestly think this trade ruined Stevie Franchise career
Mr Q Ceaz two of the best best guards of the 2000’s? U forgot A.I & Kobe ?
@@Hot33333333 I didn't name them because I didn't say the 2 best I said 2 of the best I can name 10 of 15 great guards of the 2000's I just said 2 of the best
Mr Q Ceaz same here, he was never the same player he was at rockets
MrBrenman21 to be honest t-mac was never as great as he was on Orlando either
@@kinglou1908 facts bro
T-Mac should've waited one more year. He would've that exact team minus Francis, Mobley & Cato. Dwight, Hedu, Jameer, Doug Christie & Grant hill final playing would've been great for him
Kobe Jordan aka Tony Tony Tony right
Francis will always be more loved in Houston more than Tmac!
Rip craig sager... my mans had some serious drip.
0:58 haven't seen this kind of pure move ever since T-Mac
I've never seen a more smoother player ever.
It was a travel; the ball didn't hit the rim initially.
@@AzimJivani Still a great move.
He just floats to the rim.
Two of the basketball legends ie Steve Francis and Tracy Lamar McGrady by Steve Irungu Jermaine
Tf is Kerr talking about??? When he leeched his whole career off the greatness of guys like McGrady!? FOH...
Buttttt but but but excuse me sir but Mr.Kerr never played with Mac bruvvv hahaha lolz
0:58 a healthy tmac with a bball handling fuck!
Super dope content
Two of my favorite players ever
FRancis was better than Damian Lillard here. THe handles and athleticism was crazy. Steve Kerr talking crazy...Mr. psychologist.
Steve Francis
TMac
Yao Ming
Grant Hill
Damn you injuries!!!
Tmac was a superstar and vc was a superstar
Love these two
what a beautiful game it used to be, it was a tough mans game, these dudes really went at it
Houston had mutombo and yao ming??
Would y’all take this T-Mac or Nuggets Melo ?? 👀
steve kerr is so overrated as a player and coach lol
He's right about Mcgrady tho
Armando De Los Santos no the hell he not just because he played with Jordan he think he’s an expert about the game.
He wasn’t nothing but a clutch shot maker nothing else he don’t know shit
@@courtneytallman5431 what like stupid shit is that?! He played in the NBA for years before joining the Bulls and after! The man knows basketball especially more than little bitches on RUclips comments
@@courtneytallman5431 Mcgrady was overrated as hell the way you're trying to make Kerr sound? Mcgrady has no business in the hall of fame he's another indicator that the league fell off after the lockout of 1999
Those Magic pinstripe unis was clean
Please post the triple over time game, Rockets vs. Pacers, 2001, where Francis got fouled out and Moochie Norris came to the rescue!
Deke was playing all out like a soldier and that had to be the year or two before he retired respect 👍
One of my all time fav players
Wow that’s wild I forgot mutumbo and Yao played together that’s a helluva duo if both prime
Tumbo wasn't in his prime since he played for hawks bro, but he had flashes of what he used to be 😘
Steve Francis would've been one of the greatest but a woulda, shoulda, coulda tho
Jay Lee, overrated.
Steve Kerr really said Tmac wasn’t a superstar 😂
It's crazy how they both played for Magic&Rockets.
Yaaa budddd CAUSE they got traded FOR each other hahaha lolz pretty simple math there palll lolz
😂😂😂😂 Kerr speaking facts
Steve Francis should play in the big 3!!!
Alex Jimenez the nigga look old af right now
Cuttino Mobley does; he looks like black Santa Claus, LOL.
Unfortunately for Steve Francis his coaches didn't give him the freedom that guys today have!
Steve Francis was like the Dwayne Wade before Dwayne Wade. hehe.
I'm mad t_mac,g.hill,or steve franchise didn't get a ring🤨🤨🤨
Mannnn I miss tHese days
Lol they booed him when he was traded i remember watching this so pissed.
😂 don’t get mad at me forget he demanded a trade
Turkey Glu. The point foward on that 2009 Magic finals team.
TMac was a great player with a short career. But pressure in Orlando?!... Imagine being in a known for WINNING HISTORY type of team... Now that is pressure!!!
Decisions is a key factor (Self or Team) You roll the dice!!! 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐐🤫
Ho crap Rod Strickland was playing with Houston...dang didn’t know he played that long
5:00 mark sums up tmac career
I remember as a kid my dad told me the Magic tried to make T-Mac the face of their organization and he didn’t want it. And I’m seeing this snippet they have of him saying that too much was on his shoulders when they were losing.... It rings true. He never should’ve left Toronto in the first place, then he left Orlando right before they got Dwight Howard too..... Hall of fame talent, but he never elevated the play of those around him.
Nate yes he did,he led that trash team to the playoffs.
Tone, we give LeBron flack for losing with teams just as bad in the finals.... but you’re sitting here giving Tracy a pass for first round exits?? Even when he had capable lineups, they still got beat in the first round... Hall of Fame talent, that he was, but he should’ve been so much more.
Nate capable teams when??? When did he have a capable team when everyone important was healthy???
Nate Nah man. You mad wrong for comparing those two teams. Please please bring out the statistics where LeBrons and T-Macs teams are even remotely close to producing the same numbers. T-Mac in 03 had 1 person other than himself average double digits (14 to be exact) in the playoffs. He was a damn rookie at that. People need to realize, T-Mac was literally a 1 man wrecking crew carrying sorry ass teams to 7 games against stacked teams bruh he was always going up against big 3s. He was the big1 and only for the Magic.
I used to love Steve Kerr as a color guy w Marv Alberts.
The VS that was a change
Steve Kerr wasn't bullshittin on commentary lol
Tmac>>KD
@ 2:59 she looking like she willing to risk it all
Is this the last time an all star was traded for an all star before last week?
Paris. Last year Kyrie and Isaiah thomas
I remember Steve Francis in the street ball leagues in D.C cutting up...Crossing mulfuckas, dunking on 7 footers...Ah, the good ol days...He wasn't Steve Francis then either...He was just "Wink"
5:00 now knowing that Kobe at a time was gonna leave LA i wonder if his perception of kobe woulda changed if he knew then what we know now🤷🏾♂️
4:33 Steve Kerr had the nerve to call T-Mac an allstar instead of a superstar? Did he forget that Kobe had Shaq during the early 2000s. And when Shaq left to go to the Heat Kobe was contemplating on leaving the Lakers for Boston. Even Kobes and Shaq last season together they had Karl Malone, Gary Payton and Derek Fisher. Magic literally had nobody besides Grant Hill and he was injured most of the time. T-Mac could do nothing with that team.
In all fairness I reallyyyy don’t think it’s fair to say Malone and Payton without clearly saying it was also at the very end of both of there careers and where not ANYWHERE close to there primes just saying just saying lolzzz 🤷♂️