I was really excited when they announced it and started to put money aside.. but then then I saw all the issues with the cam shaft on that engine and even more troublesome the response KTM as a company has made regarding those issues. It is not reasonable that the owners have to put down that amount of money for new cams (and heads) on a bike with 15k-20k km on it. Unless they guarantee that will not happen, I suspect a lot of people will stay away. I also agree that journalists should mention that in reviews, put more pressure on the manufacturers to react properly and take care of their clients.
You're barking up the wrong tree, I don't think you can call us full-on journalists, we're a TV show about bikes. It's difficult for us to mention issues like that unless we've researched it fully, we've ridden many different KTM's without any problems.
More Lara, please. Outstanding review, as always. I especially appreciate her always commenting on in-depth details of a bike versus just a bland overview.
Outstanding detailed analysis of this bike! Your knowledgeable and concise approach in the review of this bike is exemplary and very helpful. I appreciate it when reviewers take the time to “break down” every aspect of a bike in order to help potential buyers make a better decision. Thank you!
Looks like a well balanced package. Could it be the only bike in your garage? Bottomed out the suspension? Sounds like a progressive spring upgrade is needed, but that is almost every bike.
Once they sorted out the reliability issues coming out about the motor , its a great looking bike,,but to possibly be left with a bike outside warranty needing a top end ,, not sure 🤔,,,from northern Ireland ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
I owned a Svart 401 and adored it. I was thrilled to see the 801 coming until they announced the engine choice. The top end issues and lack of response from KTM/Husky on this issue has me unwilling to buy another Husky product until things improve. I'll be spending my money with Triumph instead.
Nice review 👍 I always thought the larger Svartpilen would benefit from the more powerful twin cylinder motor. Do Husqvarna now finally have a natural successor to the (perhaps) underappreciated Nuda?
Top review and nice ride. Had 2 bikes with modes now and just turned them off. Street triple r is still the best bike I regret selling. Thanks again for the insight into KTM land.
NGL, a 10mm spacer at the right place on the fork and you can increase rake and volume... i do mods like that so imho the frame is still the same to me unless they prove it with a presentation.
Really unique take on the bike, thanks. I think the fact that this bike can be described as 'professional' is why sales will never fly. People buy bikes, by and large, to feel cool, dangerous, exotic maybe. And whilst I quite like its minimal sophistication, it's unlikely to create that visceral connection with its rider that so many other bikes can.
i've seen better looking motorcyles, the rear as usual is short and ugly, the radiator cover look like it was a DIY job at home by someone not vey handy.....
I really hope you mention how the LC8c engine is now becoming world-renowned for melting its cams. Moto journalists lose a lot of credibility when they don't mention obvious flaws with the platform.
Maybe because no one outside of KTM actually knows the extent of the problem? It is a problem and KTM should own up to it and get it fixed but I've scoured every forum and page related to the issue and there are maybe 2 or 3 dozen confirmed examples of worn cams. How significant is that if they have sold thousands of these engines? Should all the journalist start bashing the bike straight out of the gate because of some anecdotes? The new 4 year warranty is enough to make me feel OK enough about it that I will purchase one.
@@BikeWorldTVshow There are no issues that are apparent until the bike fails because the cams wear prematurely. It seems to take about 10 to 15,000 mi before these bikes stop cranking. I understand it's hard to assess for long-term reliability, especially when the problem is insidious and requires taking off the valve cover to even diagnose. At this point, any bike with an LC8c should be introduced with a disclaimer.
Buyer Beware. I have owned a new Svartpilen 401 for almost two years now. I have spend the past six months waiting for a replacement for a defective radiator fan. My efforts to reach out to KTM, including corporate, did not help. Not even a response, explanation, apology, or effort to expedite the part. I have waited previously for a month for an oil filter to become available. I'm going on 10 months to a year waiting for other less critical parts. I was eagerly wanting to place an order for the new 801. Now I'll be afraid to take the bike more than 30 minutes from home when and if it's finally repaired. When I did research on the 401 none of the reviewers mentioned the reliability and parts availability problems. I wish I had been warned. I think this is a systemic problem at KTM that they have somehow kept relatively quiet and instead flooded social media with positive videos about new bikes.
It´s the established non-swedish way to say it, just accept it :D For anyone who isn´t swedish you could try to prolong the u as in Huuuuuskvarna. And the "skva" just say it like "squadron".
@@BikeWorldTVshow You don't get it, do you. It shows respect to the company/brand and shows that you take your work seriously by doing some minimal research. Huskvarna is probably the world's oldest motorcycle brand, in continuous operation since 1903. Take care Leroy, I mean Lara.
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I was really excited when they announced it and started to put money aside.. but then then I saw all the issues with the cam shaft on that engine and even more troublesome the response KTM as a company has made regarding those issues. It is not reasonable that the owners have to put down that amount of money for new cams (and heads) on a bike with 15k-20k km on it. Unless they guarantee that will not happen, I suspect a lot of people will stay away. I also agree that journalists should mention that in reviews, put more pressure on the manufacturers to react properly and take care of their clients.
They can't be out of a job, the company's pay them!
You're barking up the wrong tree, I don't think you can call us full-on journalists, we're a TV show about bikes. It's difficult for us to mention issues like that unless we've researched it fully, we've ridden many different KTM's without any problems.
@@digger8180 Yep, we're rolling in it.
Refreshing review style; I appreciate how you articulate both the ride and emotional experience.
More Lara, please. Outstanding review, as always. I especially appreciate her always commenting on in-depth details of a bike versus just a bland overview.
So good to see Lara doing a review again. Always a pleasure. Great work Lara and bike world, keep it up 👍 😊
The English love their motorcycles, refreshing to see an Englishwoman review a bike. ❤️
Outstanding detailed analysis of this bike! Your knowledgeable and concise approach in the review of this bike is exemplary and very helpful. I appreciate it when reviewers take the time to “break down” every aspect of a bike in order to help potential buyers make a better decision. Thank you!
Great to see Lara back, with her enthusiasm!
Will the cams delaminate? 🤨
Probably 😂
100%
Tag KTM/Husqvarna here so they know people is aware of their engine problems.
How did we all manage without rain mode, in the last 3 decades. Do like bike world. Chad, Chris, and this lady. Good stuff.
Her name is Lara
At first I thought, where is Chris? But this is an excellent review. Especially the Ducati comparison and summary.
Just the perfect bike, can't wait to get mine ❤❤
Thoughtful and interesting mini review. Enjoyed that, ta.
Looks like a well balanced package. Could it be the only bike in your garage?
Bottomed out the suspension? Sounds like a progressive spring upgrade is needed, but that is almost every bike.
Articulate review, Lara. You're in tune to motorcycles, good to have you on Bike World team.
Once they sorted out the reliability issues coming out about the motor , its a great looking bike,,but to possibly be left with a bike outside warranty needing a top end ,, not sure 🤔,,,from northern Ireland ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
Love it 🫶🏽. I’d bet I’d love the riding position as well. Can’t wait to try it! 🤙🏾
I owned a Svart 401 and adored it. I was thrilled to see the 801 coming until they announced the engine choice. The top end issues and lack of response from KTM/Husky on this issue has me unwilling to buy another Husky product until things improve. I'll be spending my money with Triumph instead.
Nice review 👍 I always thought the larger Svartpilen would benefit from the more powerful twin cylinder motor. Do Husqvarna now finally have a natural successor to the (perhaps) underappreciated Nuda?
Top review and nice ride. Had 2 bikes with modes now and just turned them off. Street triple r is still the best bike I regret selling. Thanks again for the insight into KTM land.
Wow! Makes me want to buy one!
Alas, It will be another 2 years or so. Still any issues will be ironed out by then.
NGL, a 10mm spacer at the right place on the fork and you can increase rake and volume...
i do mods like that so imho the frame is still the same to me unless they prove it with a presentation.
Your sticker just happen to cover the speedo- what are the odds of that ;-)
I’m guessing you missed the branding on the rims. Pretty cool
Cool jacket. Jon Wick’s Scrambler.
Cool review! It looks like it's going after the Ducati Scrambler here. Much higher spec by the looks of it though.
801 = higher power, lower weight, better sups. Easy decision from my point of view.
The 701 looks so much better
Great review. Not actually watched it but your reviews are always great 😘
If it’s anything like the 790 duke it’s will be a grin machine
Including melting cams...?
@@AfricaTwinZA I never had a problem with mine , I think sometimes with ktm its luck of the draw
Nice cb650
looks like they went to Honda and their CB300S/cafe for inspo 😕
They should use this engine to make another Nuda 900.
On Dunlop mutants
What a swizz having to pay for features already in the machine. That's enough to put many off.
Really unique take on the bike, thanks. I think the fact that this bike can be described as 'professional' is why sales will never fly. People buy bikes, by and large, to feel cool, dangerous, exotic maybe. And whilst I quite like its minimal sophistication, it's unlikely to create that visceral connection with its rider that so many other bikes can.
Ride one and then write a opinion.
i've seen better looking motorcyles, the rear as usual is short and ugly, the radiator cover look like it was a DIY job at home by someone not vey handy.....
Chocolate cams
I really hope you mention how the LC8c engine is now becoming world-renowned for melting its cams. Moto journalists lose a lot of credibility when they don't mention obvious flaws with the platform.
It’s a launch first ride, we wouldn’t go into the platform in this vid. We never had any issues, and we’ve ridden a few.
Where do you get this non sense information?
Are you smoking the crack pipe bro. What credentials?, do you have to post such a infantile comment
Maybe because no one outside of KTM actually knows the extent of the problem? It is a problem and KTM should own up to it and get it fixed but I've scoured every forum and page related to the issue and there are maybe 2 or 3 dozen confirmed examples of worn cams. How significant is that if they have sold thousands of these engines? Should all the journalist start bashing the bike straight out of the gate because of some anecdotes? The new 4 year warranty is enough to make me feel OK enough about it that I will purchase one.
@@BikeWorldTVshow There are no issues that are apparent until the bike fails because the cams wear prematurely. It seems to take about 10 to 15,000 mi before these bikes stop cranking.
I understand it's hard to assess for long-term reliability, especially when the problem is insidious and requires taking off the valve cover to even diagnose.
At this point, any bike with an LC8c should be introduced with a disclaimer.
Your audio is pretty bad
Buyer Beware. I have owned a new Svartpilen 401 for almost two years now. I have spend the past six months waiting for a replacement for a defective radiator fan. My efforts to reach out to KTM, including corporate, did not help. Not even a response, explanation, apology, or effort to expedite the part. I have waited previously for a month for an oil filter to become available. I'm going on 10 months to a year waiting for other less critical parts. I was eagerly wanting to place an order for the new 801. Now I'll be afraid to take the bike more than 30 minutes from home when and if it's finally repaired. When I did research on the 401 none of the reviewers mentioned the reliability and parts availability problems. I wish I had been warned. I think this is a systemic problem at KTM that they have somehow kept relatively quiet and instead flooded social media with positive videos about new bikes.
Husk-U-varna ???
Here we go!
It´s the established non-swedish way to say it, just accept it :D For anyone who isn´t swedish you could try to prolong the u as in Huuuuuskvarna. And the "skva" just say it like "squadron".
Have a Norden, this bike doesnt do it for me in the looks dept.
The Norden is fugly
This was filmed with a potato
Should have followed the 701 and 401 styling. That 801 is hideous.
Learn before you post: Pronounced Hooskvarna. not Haaskevarna
Otherwise, love your reporting on this bike.
Does it really matter?
@@BikeWorldTVshow You don't get it, do you. It shows respect to the company/brand and shows that you take your work seriously by doing some minimal research. Huskvarna is probably the world's oldest motorcycle brand, in continuous operation since 1903. Take care Leroy, I mean Lara.
@jdesmo1 it’s crazy how much effort you took to be an asshole.
Far Easier to keep your mouth shut 🤫 and be appreciative.
@@1Larriva Exactly, some people just need to say something, does it really matter...