I actually own the Sundaras based on your review of it, and I truly love the way the musical instruments sound on it. I'm using it on the Ifi Zen Signature Stack that I got for my HD6xx. I really enjoy the xbass feature with the Sundaras, gives is a slightly deeper and fuller sound.
I highly recommend swapping the Sundara's stock pads for *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads.* Everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well...though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force. To affix any aftermarket earpads, specialized attachment rings are required: included with HIFIMAN's cheapo $10-15 velour and pleather earpads, as well as some third party models.
Planars are a pleasure for the ears! I personally have a new revisioned Sundara and for $350 it's quickly becoming the benchmark in that price range. I love them cause they're kinda different.
I highly recommend swapping the Sundara's stock pads for *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads.* Everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well...though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force. To affix any aftermarket earpads, specialized attachment rings are required: included with HIFIMAN's cheapo $10-15 velour and pleather earpads, as well as some third party models.
@@mattrismatt Man thanks for this! I wasn't sure which pad to go for and I also heard they are a pain to change but I'll give them a try, I'm still on the stock pads.
@@mmorales508 You're welcome. Other pads that sound great with the Sundara: *Brainwavz Hybrid* (Angled or XL, not the standard oval model) and Dekoni Elite Hybrid (the ones designed the BeyerDynamic DT series, which have a slightly larger ear opening than their model designed for HIFIMAN headphones).
@@mattrismatt Bro I just want to thank you again for the recommendation. I finally installed the pads and boy it's a new headphone all over again with those ZMF's, great stuff! Might order the Brainwavz to compare but I'm super super happy with the ZMF'S although for the price they should come with the rings included and better presentation other than that the pads are high quality premium stuff, thank you 👌✌️
It is quite unique DAC sounds like Ares II, and it might be discontinued due AKM chips it's using which are not longer in production even before its factory burned.
I'm starting a new build, I've got the Arya SE with me and I'm waiting on the Gustard H16 to come and pair it with the topping e70v. Its funny how similar this is to your build Josh. I started this hobby with the sundara paired with the topping DX3 pro+. Love the value, although I was craving for more details, soundstage. I really enjoyed the tonality of the sundara, hence why I opted in for the Arya SE. Thinking also along this year to pick up the HD600. This way I'll have basically 2 diferent sound signatures to listen. Congratz on your work!
Based on this video, I bought the Arya and Modius/Magnius stack. My life is CHANGED. I've never heard music in this way before. It's hard to resist sitting down at my desk now to listen. Thank you thank you thank you!
If you ever get a SPL Phonitor X amp listen to the Arya with the dip switches 1 and 2 on high gain balanced with the S.M.S.L su-8 dac. Good recordings like Steely Dan will blow your mind.
Very nice review, as with all your other reviews. Just got ‘serious’ with headphones and I’m loving the Arya. Picked up the Oppo HA-1 a couple of days ago, can’t wait to get it up and running. Just too busy with work at the moment.
I'm just surprised that there's not many more of this type of build in audio forum. I mean, it cuts out the bullsh*t on gear pairing yes it's subjective to the reviewer's bias but man one clearer view is better than many foggy ones.
@@jieranli sure, but reviewers should have more than a fair amount of stuff in their storage right? Head fi's HQ for sure have tons of them. there's no need to include too niche brand inside them either, just the old reliable stable, maybe the new popular dac/amp on the block and how it pairs to the best headphone on the same price range the reviewer has, is enough
Arya v2, SMSL SU-9, and THX 789 is my set up =). Honestly think im done for a loooonngggg time. Was gonna pick up and LCD-x and focal clear to compliment the Arya's, but from what I've been told - and reviews that I've watched - the Aryas are definitely more my speed.
Thank you for the effort you put into your reviews. Thoroughly informative channel. I have my heart set on two products so far that resumes where I last left off on my audiophile journey. I want to buy the following : 1) Hifiman Aria Stealth Magnets 2) Eversolo DMP -A6 For my connection to the mobile and using the headphones on the go, I will be using my iphone conncted to a Qudelix-5k phone DAC. For home usage I am keen to explore the idea of buying an entry level budget pre amp for my home setup as I wont be using the Qudelix. My questions are: a) Which preamp will complement products 1 and 2 in the chain above? b) Is buying balanced cables necessary ? If so which budget ones do you recommend? The eversolo uses 3 pin XLR sockets c) how will the above compare to a popular Schiit modius + magnius combo for the headphones? Will there be much difference in sound quality ? 4) Is there a big jump in sound quality using Tube amps and is it worth the investment over the Schiit combo you recommended TQ
I bought the Arya after Josh's recommendations currently using with Topping A90/D90 stack and prefer it over my Empyrean and Hugo 2 set-up. So couldn't agree more, this a summit-fi set-up at a very affordable price.
I'd love for you to do a TOTL build with the 1266 Phi TC. There are 2 direction you can go tubes vs. Solid State. On the tubes side there is Cayin HA-300, Viva Egoista 845, Woo WA33, DNA Stratus trafomatic primavera and on the solid state you can go Wells Headtrip2/Milo reference, XI Audio Formula S + Powerman, Niimbus US4+, Flux Labs Volot, Moon Audio 430. As you move up from the $2.5 price range to the $5k+ range which is the right move to make and what are the limitations? I would assume at the lower price point you'd want to stick SS but increasing the budget would make sense to go tubes.
Audio memory is about the most platonic thing you can think of. I'm saying this because of what Joshua mentioned about the mesh. It's been 20 years for me and I know for sure my equipment now sounds way better but going by memory, nothing comes close to the first time I heard a CD recording through a portable discman with the included earphones.
I just bought a schiit modious and magnius along with the Dan Clark audio aeon x open. So hype. Coming from the he4xx and the liquid spark with some budget dac
So we all know ur b-roll looks amazing but when I saw that shot from inside the coffee mug I was like "What?!" and watched it again, next level stuff Josh.
@Nurse I keep hearing that Macbook pros have pretty great DAC’s as is, not sure how much truth there is to it, but that’s why I hadn’t bothered yet with this setup
@@MattLoberstein I will tell you from personal experience that as long as your macbook pro is relatively recent, there isnt much reason to upgrade to an external DAC. Macbook pro onboard audio is truly really fucking good.
Great video content and awesome video editing :-) I own a Gustard H16 amplifier and can highly recommend it. I paired it with a Gustard X16 which is also MQA and DSD compatible (ESS 9068). With this option you can also safe a few dollars compared to the D70s. Keep on the good work - i really enjoy your channel a lot!
If he does, I hope he recommends swapping out the earpads as part of the budget. I use *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads* on my Sundara. With them, everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well... though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force. To affix any aftermarket earpads, specialized attachment rings are required, which are included with HIFIMAN's $10-15 velour and pleather earpads, as well as some third party models.
@@mattrismatt as a Sundara owner, thank you for addressing issues that are just so relatable. I've looked at the pads but at that price I don't know if they're worth it since they bring the price/performance ratio way down.
@@mrvitalikish Pad swapping on the Sundara makes a HUGE difference to the resulting sound. And if you choose wisely, the benefits turn the headphones into a whole other class in sound and comfort. ZMF's pads are a bit expensive, but they'd only bring the price/performance ratio down if they didn't improve the sound. (IMO, this isn't the case.) I just did some more Sundara pad-swapping and discovered that the (more affordable) *Brainwavz Hybrid XL* pads are even more spacious sounding and a bit warmer than the ZMF pads. I have to say, the sound is quite impressive with my *Geshelli Labs Erish* balanced amp. This may be the best overall headphone 'combo' I've heard... and I still have yet to upgrade my DAC. (I have my eye on the upcoming Topping D30 Pro.) You could also try the *Brainwavz Hybrid Angled* pads, which bring the driver further from your ears and would likely provide a better around-ear seal, both attributes that would result in greater bass than with the XL pads. I'm also curious to try the *Dekoni Elite Hybrid* pads (the ones designed the BeyerDynamic DT series, which have a slightly larger ear opening than their model designed for HIFIMAN headphones), but they are also on the expensive side.
@@mattrismatt I genuinely appreciate your recommendations. This kind of trial-and-error process is costly and it's nice to have someone who has already been through the process, not to mention the time put into research. The bolded names of the pads also show that you do care. I'd definitely try out the pads mentioned cuz quite frankly I'm sold on those ZMF pads. It's a shame that EQ-ing is gonna be a little more complicated since there is no pre-existing data with regard to this headphones and pads combo.
Nice system :) What would recommend in the 1000-2000e mark headphones for mostly rock and electronical music, trance etc.., There is so much information from everywhere and in my country very hard to try yourself diffrent models. I have Naim DAC V1 amp so power requirements does not matter. looking to change my HD650:s to these, so what is the best upgrade for it?
So taking the fabric out of the Arya made it sound like the original? In the video it doesn't look like you took the cloth out from the inside of the cups is this the case?
My setup is the Focal Clears + Adi2pro (as part of my home studio), pretty satisfied with the setup. The only thing I don't like is that it costs $200 to replace the ear pads on the Clears, and it's a rip off!
Any guess what balanced interconnects Josh is using (5.08)? It is hard to find good ones that don't cost a fortune. UK availability would be a bonus. Thanks.
how is the clamping force in hifiman arya ? Is the clamping force too much for using it 3/4 hours everyday day ? Or it was only meant to be used for listening to some good music for an hour and then put it back in the shelf again?
Clamping force is nonexistent. Like there’s literally no clamping force if you have the right adjustment. It’s the most comfortable headphone and a lot of people will attest to that
Hmm at around the 7 min mark you mentioned the more expensive system making sense if you were running multiple headphones and mentioned Clear as an example. That’s exactly the position I’m about to find myself in but was surprised to hear Clear used as an example. Everything I’ve read and seen says Clear could even run without an amp and so I figured that if you were to run an amp at all with Clear, you could easily get away with a cheaper setup (such as the Schitt stack). Would love if you or anyone else could clarify?
Hi Joshua, did u hear the Arya’s over a Mytek Brooklyn bridge? To me it’s so appealing as a streamer/dac/headphone amp in one box. It has a balanced out optional cable with 6watts output.
I'm a bit confused when you said that the only case that I would want to get the higher end dac/amp is in case we had different headphones like the clear. Would clear not be able to run as well on schiit's modius/magnius?
I had it for a bit. Arya V2 with REM ADI 2 FS .... I think this is a great pairing ... it subdues the highs quite a bit. Much smoother listening experience on the top end. I ended up getting a Chord TT2 instead. Just better in all accounts. Wanted to get the most out of the Aryas.
Probably great if you pair it with "warmer" devices like the Schiit Bitfrost 2 and Jotunheim 2. Jotunheim 2: ruclips.net/video/3iw5Uv6CxgI/видео.html Bitfrost 2: ruclips.net/video/L6DXoL5VE10/видео.html
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou sounds great thx for the reply; definitely want the Aryas. However, just got the Focal Clear Mgs (just using the chord mojo for now) and they are insane! So I’m distracted with those atm 😄
This exact experience happened for me with my 1990's. I plugged them into an Apollo solo interface and it. was. awful. Topping A90/D90 and I can't believe what I hear in music and games.
Hello Joshua.. ¿What is your opinion about the HifiMan Edition XS, and with which amplifier (discrete or operational) and dac would you recommend it? Thanks a lot
I wonder why there was no mention of the Ananda's with the Magnius/Modius stack. I have both 2021 Sundara's and the Ananda's, and the Sundara's wear my ears out quickly. The Ananda's are less strained, much easier to listen to. Still searching for the dac/amp combo that really works with Sundara's without numbing your ears.
What did you mean by "numbing your ears"? I recommend swapping the Sundara's stock pads for *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads.* Everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well...though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force.
I am wondering what if Topping+Gustard is replaced by RME ADI-2 DAC. The advantage I would say would be the audio equalizer. Disadvantage would be missing Bluetooth for occasional streaming from phone.
@@MrMolchester Thats what some reviewers seem to think. However, that notion honestly seems bizarre considering that its measured frequency response is dead flat. I really wish there were some examples of blind tests done between the Magnius and the Asgard 3. While I haven't heard either of them, my prediction is that the only real difference you need to consider between the two is if you want to run the Arya single ended or balanced, since the Magnius's single ended out measures quite poorly.
@@chamade166 Jesus dude get with the times. That sentiment was valid 3-4 years ago, but their newer products measure extremely well, sound great, and are often at price points that offer fantastic bang for your buck.
I currently have the Arya paired with the A90/Modius. I am looking at getting the Gustard X16. Should I stick with the A90 for the amp or do you think it would be a better pairing if I get the Gustard H16 with the X16? I can still return the A90 so I wouldn’t be losing any amp money.
I like all models of HIFIMAN headphobes.Tell me please:whish model has more bass and punch for listening to heavy rock music ? Or better Focal Clean MG ?. Thank You
Hey Josh - I feel like you were talking directly to me at the start of the video. I have an LCD-X that I got from your recommendation for planar performance with more bass than Arya and less upper detail. I haven't been enjoying them, but I have a V1 Schiit Magni and it is very glare-y exactly like you say here. Cheap, old amp that doesn't have the power output. Would you recommend the Schiit Asguard 3 or Magnius to pair with it?
On Shenzhen Audio's website under the specs for the Gustard H16 it says: "Maximum undistorted output power 3700mW into 64Ω LOAD balanced output". Does that mean you will encounter some distortion if you're driving the Arya's at 35ohms impedance? I could be confused. Edit: Im just bringing this up because I was looking at this AMP for driving my HE6SEs at 50ohms impedance.
Could I get some advise? I currently have a Shiit stack, Magni 3 heresy and Modi 3. And I use a Drop-Sennheiser HD6XX. What would be my next step to upgrade? I think the build shown above would be a bit too much for me to just spend on something that I'm just starting out in. (Used my current setup for about a year now.) Would I benefit from just a new Amp and/or DAC? And then I could upgrade my headphone whenever I find a good deal?
I've just got an iFi Zen Dac and Sennheiser HD600 and promised my wife to stop buying headphones. This still makes me drool a little bit. I won't lie. :-)
How's the longterm wear (e.g. 3+ hours straight) with these headphones and the LCD-2Cs (and at lower volumes to prevent fatigue)? Kinda considering either this setup or maybe with the Schitts you mentioned.
Arya is very comfortable and can easily be worn for that length of time. I have big ears and have no complaints. The lcd2c is still comfy but feels heavy and is hot on the ears after a while. They also seal around your ears so if you move with them on you feel the air pressure. I think its something you can adjust to though especially at the price vs arya. Just to be clear, the lcd2c is a very different sound signature from the arya.
The editing of this video is pure eyecandy
Yep - top notch production quality with reasonably priced yet good performing filming equipment!
I agree
he messed up the poor on the coffee though :(
My wife always compliments your editing and video quality whenever I watch your videos on our living room tv. Keep up the great work Josh!
Great series. I would love to see a build around one of the audezes. LCD 2 or X, maybe GX.
is the coffee machine a part of the build?
(also I love that cinematic intro)
I actually own the Sundaras based on your review of it, and I truly love the way the musical instruments sound on it. I'm using it on the Ifi Zen Signature Stack that I got for my HD6xx. I really enjoy the xbass feature with the Sundaras, gives is a slightly deeper and fuller sound.
I highly recommend swapping the Sundara's stock pads for *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads.* Everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well...though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force.
To affix any aftermarket earpads, specialized attachment rings are required: included with HIFIMAN's cheapo $10-15 velour and pleather earpads, as well as some third party models.
Planars are a pleasure for the ears! I personally have a new revisioned Sundara and for $350 it's quickly becoming the benchmark in that price range. I love them cause they're kinda different.
The instruments Seperation on the planar headphones is inarguably make music better sounding than any dynamic headphone
I highly recommend swapping the Sundara's stock pads for *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads.* Everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well...though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force.
To affix any aftermarket earpads, specialized attachment rings are required: included with HIFIMAN's cheapo $10-15 velour and pleather earpads, as well as some third party models.
@@mattrismatt Man thanks for this! I wasn't sure which pad to go for and I also heard they are a pain to change but I'll give them a try, I'm still on the stock pads.
@@mmorales508 You're welcome. Other pads that sound great with the Sundara: *Brainwavz Hybrid* (Angled or XL, not the standard oval model) and Dekoni Elite Hybrid (the ones designed the BeyerDynamic DT series, which have a slightly larger ear opening than their model designed for HIFIMAN headphones).
@@mattrismatt Bro I just want to thank you again for the recommendation. I finally installed the pads and boy it's a new headphone all over again with those ZMF's, great stuff! Might order the Brainwavz to compare but I'm super super happy with the ZMF'S although for the price they should come with the rings included and better presentation other than that the pads are high quality premium stuff, thank you 👌✌️
Is a review of D70s coming? Curious how big of a difference (sonically) compared to older/cheaper DACs like SU-8 or E30/D50s.
Also compared to the more expensive, but otherwise very similar, D90.
It is quite unique DAC sounds like Ares II, and it might be discontinued due AKM chips it's using which are not longer in production even before its factory burned.
I'm starting a new build, I've got the Arya SE with me and I'm waiting on the Gustard H16 to come and pair it with the topping e70v. Its funny how similar this is to your build Josh.
I started this hobby with the sundara paired with the topping DX3 pro+. Love the value, although I was craving for more details, soundstage. I really enjoyed the tonality of the sundara, hence why I opted in for the Arya SE.
Thinking also along this year to pick up the HD600. This way I'll have basically 2 diferent sound signatures to listen.
Congratz on your work!
Based on this video, I bought the Arya and Modius/Magnius stack. My life is CHANGED. I've never heard music in this way before. It's hard to resist sitting down at my desk now to listen. Thank you thank you thank you!
If you ever get a SPL Phonitor X amp listen to the Arya with the dip switches 1 and 2 on high gain balanced with the S.M.S.L su-8 dac. Good recordings like Steely Dan will blow your mind.
Will you make a seperate video for the H16? I'm really interested in with X16 too.
The Arya dynamics, stage, timber are pure orgasm for the ears. It’s effortless non fatiguing and like being inside the experience.
How? I have v2
Just isn't the case but ok
Very nice review, as with all your other reviews.
Just got ‘serious’ with headphones and I’m loving the Arya. Picked up the Oppo HA-1 a couple of days ago, can’t wait to get it up and running. Just too busy with work at the moment.
I'm just surprised that there's not many more of this type of build in audio forum. I mean, it cuts out the bullsh*t on gear pairing yes it's subjective to the reviewer's bias but man one clearer view is better than many foggy ones.
Probably because most people on forum don’t have access to multiple low-high end gears on hands. Nor even experienced more than the few they own.
@@jieranli sure, but reviewers should have more than a fair amount of stuff in their storage right? Head fi's HQ for sure have tons of them.
there's no need to include too niche brand inside them either, just the old reliable stable, maybe the new popular dac/amp on the block and how it pairs to the best headphone on the same price range the reviewer has, is enough
Arya v2, SMSL SU-9, and THX 789 is my set up =). Honestly think im done for a loooonngggg time. Was gonna pick up and LCD-x and focal clear to compliment the Arya's, but from what I've been told - and reviews that I've watched - the Aryas are definitely more my speed.
I see Hifiman Arya and Topping D70s I am already drooling!! Awesome recommendation
Thank you for the effort you put into your reviews. Thoroughly informative channel.
I have my heart set on two products so far that resumes where I last left off on my audiophile journey. I want to buy the following :
1) Hifiman Aria Stealth Magnets
2) Eversolo DMP -A6
For my connection to the mobile and using the headphones on the go, I will be using my iphone conncted to a Qudelix-5k phone DAC. For home usage I am keen to explore the idea of buying an entry level budget pre amp for my home setup as I wont be using the Qudelix. My questions are:
a) Which preamp will complement products 1 and 2 in the chain above?
b) Is buying balanced cables necessary ? If so which budget ones do you recommend? The eversolo uses 3 pin XLR sockets
c) how will the above compare to a popular Schiit modius + magnius combo for the headphones? Will there be much difference in sound quality ?
4) Is there a big jump in sound quality using Tube amps and is it worth the investment over the Schiit combo you recommended
TQ
I bought the Arya after Josh's recommendations currently using with Topping A90/D90 stack and prefer it over my Empyrean and Hugo 2 set-up. So couldn't agree more, this a summit-fi set-up at a very affordable price.
I find that so hard to believe, and I say it in a positive way!
And AGAIN another great and interesting build. I love your channel and your reviews. Keep on doing that good shit. Greetings from germany.
It’s such an enjoyment listen this series together with such good quality video production
I'm loving this series - keep up the awesome work!
I'd love for you to do a TOTL build with the 1266 Phi TC. There are 2 direction you can go tubes vs. Solid State. On the tubes side there is Cayin HA-300, Viva Egoista 845, Woo WA33, DNA Stratus trafomatic primavera and on the solid state you can go Wells Headtrip2/Milo reference, XI Audio Formula S + Powerman, Niimbus US4+, Flux Labs Volot, Moon Audio 430. As you move up from the $2.5 price range to the $5k+ range which is the right move to make and what are the limitations? I would assume at the lower price point you'd want to stick SS but increasing the budget would make sense to go tubes.
For a second, I thought the intro was a Nespresso ad. 🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn’t do that to you lol
What do you think of the Hifiman Ananda? Some say it is much closer to the Aria for half the price.
What do you think about TOPPING DX7 PRO DAC/AMP?
Audio memory is about the most platonic thing you can think of. I'm saying this because of what Joshua mentioned about the mesh.
It's been 20 years for me and I know for sure my equipment now sounds way better but going by memory, nothing comes close to the first time I heard a CD recording through a portable discman with the included earphones.
You need a better espresso machine :) btw, what balanced cable for the arya do you recommend? I'm struggling to find a cheap, decent one in Europe
I just bought a schiit modious and magnius along with the Dan Clark audio aeon x open. So hype. Coming from the he4xx and the liquid spark with some budget dac
So we all know ur b-roll looks amazing but when I saw that shot from inside the coffee mug I was like "What?!" and watched it again, next level stuff Josh.
What do you think about running the Arya's with the Monolith DAC/AMP? Thanks for the great review.
Love my Arya's. Wondering how much I'm leaving on the table running just Macbook Pro DAC to Schiit Heresy.
@Nurse I keep hearing that Macbook pros have pretty great DAC’s as is, not sure how much truth there is to it, but that’s why I hadn’t bothered yet with this setup
@@MattLoberstein I will tell you from personal experience that as long as your macbook pro is relatively recent, there isnt much reason to upgrade to an external DAC. Macbook pro onboard audio is truly really fucking good.
Out of curiosity, what gain setting and pot position are you running the Arya at on your Heresy?
I use the RME ADI-2 DAC FS with my Aryas. With a bump in the bass, the sound is quite amazing IMO.
I actually got the Arya at $1160 USD brand new, crazy value. I don't think there's much competition at this price
D70S review coming soon? If so, hoping to see a comparison with D90
Thanks for this and many other insightful reviews, Josh! I would also love to hear a review of the D70s.
My thoughts exactly
What was the headphone cabling you used, also is this a similar cable you would recommend for the Focal Elex?
Problem is now I want to remove the fabric from my Aryas. Was it worth it?
Can you do a system with Audeze LCD 2C?
I'm curious on how the Arya sounds on Schiit's Lyr 3
Is it really worth it to replace the stock cable of the Arya's? Please tell me the $60 cables that you used or any cables thats worth upgrading for?
For sound it doesn't matter in the slightest, it's all for how you like your cable.
Great video content and awesome video editing :-)
I own a Gustard H16 amplifier and can highly recommend it. I paired it with a Gustard X16 which is also MQA and DSD compatible (ESS 9068). With this option you can also safe a few dollars compared to the D70s.
Keep on the good work - i really enjoy your channel a lot!
Does the H16 as josh say have a little warm shift too it :)
Since the Sundara is such a value champion, could you please make a value build recommendation that revolves around the headphone?
If he does, I hope he recommends swapping out the earpads as part of the budget. I use *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads* on my Sundara. With them, everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well... though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force.
To affix any aftermarket earpads, specialized attachment rings are required, which are included with HIFIMAN's $10-15 velour and pleather earpads, as well as some third party models.
@@mattrismatt as a Sundara owner, thank you for addressing issues that are just so relatable. I've looked at the pads but at that price I don't know if they're worth it since they bring the price/performance ratio way down.
@@mrvitalikish Pad swapping on the Sundara makes a HUGE difference to the resulting sound. And if you choose wisely, the benefits turn the headphones into a whole other class in sound and comfort.
ZMF's pads are a bit expensive, but they'd only bring the price/performance ratio down if they didn't improve the sound. (IMO, this isn't the case.)
I just did some more Sundara pad-swapping and discovered that the (more affordable) *Brainwavz Hybrid XL* pads are even more spacious sounding and a bit warmer than the ZMF pads. I have to say, the sound is quite impressive with my *Geshelli Labs Erish* balanced amp. This may be the best overall headphone 'combo' I've heard... and I still have yet to upgrade my DAC. (I have my eye on the upcoming Topping D30 Pro.)
You could also try the *Brainwavz Hybrid Angled* pads, which bring the driver further from your ears and would likely provide a better around-ear seal, both attributes that would result in greater bass than with the XL pads.
I'm also curious to try the *Dekoni Elite Hybrid* pads (the ones designed the BeyerDynamic DT series, which have a slightly larger ear opening than their model designed for HIFIMAN headphones), but they are also on the expensive side.
@@mattrismatt I genuinely appreciate your recommendations. This kind of trial-and-error process is costly and it's nice to have someone who has already been through the process, not to mention the time put into research. The bolded names of the pads also show that you do care. I'd definitely try out the pads mentioned cuz quite frankly I'm sold on those ZMF pads. It's a shame that EQ-ing is gonna be a little more complicated since there is no pre-existing data with regard to this headphones and pads combo.
Nice system :) What would recommend in the 1000-2000e mark headphones for mostly rock and electronical music, trance etc.., There is so much information from everywhere and in my country very hard to try yourself diffrent models. I have Naim DAC V1 amp so power requirements does not matter. looking to change my HD650:s to these, so what is the best upgrade for it?
I just got myself a pair of Clears and was thinking of purchasing this exact same stack. Would you recommend it?
So taking the fabric out of the Arya made it sound like the original? In the video it doesn't look like you took the cloth out from the inside of the cups is this the case?
Bro, how the hell are you not making hollywood films?!!!! That intro is so fking AWESOME!!!
My setup is the Focal Clears + Adi2pro (as part of my home studio), pretty satisfied with the setup. The only thing I don't like is that it costs $200 to replace the ear pads on the Clears, and it's a rip off!
The clear pads are going for $99 on headphones.com now.
@Joshua
can you please make a guide on the dust pad removal part and how much it makes a difference in sound quality.
Any guess what balanced interconnects Josh is using (5.08)?
It is hard to find good ones that don't cost a fortune. UK availability would be a bonus. Thanks.
how is the clamping force in hifiman arya ? Is the clamping force too much for using it 3/4 hours everyday day ? Or it was only meant to be used for listening to some good music for an hour and then put it back in the shelf again?
Clamping force is nonexistent. Like there’s literally no clamping force if you have the right adjustment. It’s the most comfortable headphone and a lot of people will attest to that
What about the Topping A90 Amp for this Arya headphone? Is that powerful enough compare to the Gustard H16 Amp?
Wohooo my 1More Triple Driver is included in the recommendation!! The sound quality much better after with cloth breathable earpad.
The only word that i can use to describe your videos is Quality
Great review...do you think my Marantz HD-CD1 CD player would drive the Arya’s or do I need a separate HPA?
Hmm at around the 7 min mark you mentioned the more expensive system making sense if you were running multiple headphones and mentioned Clear as an example.
That’s exactly the position I’m about to find myself in but was surprised to hear Clear used as an example. Everything I’ve read and seen says Clear could even run without an amp and so I figured that if you were to run an amp at all with Clear, you could easily get away with a cheaper setup (such as the Schitt stack).
Would love if you or anyone else could clarify?
Hi Joshua, did u hear the Arya’s over a Mytek Brooklyn bridge? To me it’s so appealing as a streamer/dac/headphone amp in one box. It has a balanced out optional cable with 6watts output.
I'm a bit confused when you said that the only case that I would want to get the higher end dac/amp is in case we had different headphones like the clear. Would clear not be able to run as well on schiit's modius/magnius?
Would the electronics in this system scale well for the Diana V2s? TIA!
If you sold a course on video editing for a reasonable price I would buy it. You should consider it, you have fantastic editing skills.
You Should definitely try Arya Organic with FiiO K9 AKM - Killer combo! :)
dat intro tho..
wow this channel's quality improve so much
Dude. Sick edit. Got me convinced I need a 2.7k system.
How does Arya pair with iFi Zen DAC and AMP?
I would love to hear your opinion about the arya + rme adi-2.. great content man! 👌
I had it for a bit. Arya V2 with REM ADI 2 FS .... I think this is a great pairing ... it subdues the highs quite a bit. Much smoother listening experience on the top end. I ended up getting a Chord TT2 instead. Just better in all accounts. Wanted to get the most out of the Aryas.
@@N02tradamus thx for your comments!
How is the Arya for rock music especially classic rock? Not dynamic enough?
Probably great if you pair it with "warmer" devices like the Schiit Bitfrost 2 and Jotunheim 2.
Jotunheim 2: ruclips.net/video/3iw5Uv6CxgI/видео.html
Bitfrost 2: ruclips.net/video/L6DXoL5VE10/видео.html
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou sounds great thx for the reply; definitely want the Aryas. However, just got the Focal Clear Mgs (just using the chord mojo for now) and they are insane! So I’m distracted with those atm 😄
Does Arya run well on a portable DAP like Sony Wm1z at all?
This exact experience happened for me with my 1990's. I plugged them into an Apollo solo interface and it. was. awful. Topping A90/D90 and I can't believe what I hear in music and games.
Why do you not recommend the hifiman Ananda?
Hello Joshua..
¿What is your opinion about the HifiMan Edition XS, and with which amplifier (discrete or operational) and dac would you recommend it?
Thanks a lot
Project stramboxs2 + project s2 ultra dac + rebel amp + LCD C. Streamer, dac, class A amp and great headphones.
Since you went with Gustard H16 AMP, why not go with X16 to have a matching stack? This DAC is apparently pretty good too. Thanks :)
Would the Astell & Kern usb-c dual DAC cable suitability power the Arya?
Could you please list the cable used (it’s mentioned as part of the setup price but there are no links)?
Joshua Valour, Arya is my end game now). What cable would you recommend for Arya: silver or copper ?
Hi Josh, love the videos. Do the Arya's work well with the Monolith 788 amp?
What do you think about Shure headphones like 440, 840 and more?
Hey man, do you think you can get your hands on some harmonicdyne Zeus? Wondering about them vs DT 1990
How did you remove the fabric part on Arya? Mine have some sticky glue sort of thing. That thing is now stuck on the inner fabric on mine.
Do you think that the Sennheiser HDVD800 with the Aryas will perform better than the system on the video?
is there a reason why you didn't put this in s tier? should I be using the Focal Clear instead of the Hifiman?
I wonder why there was no mention of the Ananda's with the Magnius/Modius stack. I have both 2021 Sundara's and the Ananda's, and the Sundara's wear my ears out quickly. The Ananda's are less strained, much easier to listen to. Still searching for the dac/amp combo that really works with Sundara's without numbing your ears.
What did you mean by "numbing your ears"? I recommend swapping the Sundara's stock pads for *ZMF Auteur Perforated Hybrid Pads.* Everything about the sound improves, including the frequency response, soundstage, imaging, and bass impact. And with ear-shaped openings, comfort improves, as well...though I have also slightly bent the metal headband to decrease clamping force.
@Brian Thomas Would you recommend the Anandas over the Sundaras in terms of comfort and sound quality?.
I am wondering what if Topping+Gustard is replaced by RME ADI-2 DAC. The advantage I would say would be the audio equalizer. Disadvantage would be missing Bluetooth for occasional streaming from phone.
Would a schiit Asgard 3 be a good amp for this headphone? Thanks!
Schiit stuff is not very good, colors/distorts sound.
I'd also like to know this. Hard to find any Magnius vs. Asgard 3 comparisons. I'm told that Asguard is a little warmer?
@@MrMolchester Thats what some reviewers seem to think. However, that notion honestly seems bizarre considering that its measured frequency response is dead flat. I really wish there were some examples of blind tests done between the Magnius and the Asgard 3. While I haven't heard either of them, my prediction is that the only real difference you need to consider between the two is if you want to run the Arya single ended or balanced, since the Magnius's single ended out measures quite poorly.
@@chamade166 Jesus dude get with the times. That sentiment was valid 3-4 years ago, but their newer products measure extremely well, sound great, and are often at price points that offer fantastic bang for your buck.
I currently have the Arya paired with the A90/Modius. I am looking at getting the Gustard X16. Should I stick with the A90 for the amp or do you think it would be a better pairing if I get the Gustard H16 with the X16? I can still return the A90 so I wouldn’t be losing any amp money.
I was disappointed with the lack of dynamics from the arya. I was using a90. But I am comparing them to the Dt880 600ohm with tubes.
I wonder when can we expect to see Gustard H16 review. I can't find it on the channel so i presume it is coming...
I saw the title, 2700 build .. hmm go on .. and by the end I'm glad you did so!
What cables would you recommend connecting the Gustard to the Topping?
I like all models of HIFIMAN headphobes.Tell me please:whish model has more bass and punch for listening to heavy rock music ? Or better Focal Clean MG ?. Thank You
Hey Josh - I feel like you were talking directly to me at the start of the video. I have an LCD-X that I got from your recommendation for planar performance with more bass than Arya and less upper detail. I haven't been enjoying them, but I have a V1 Schiit Magni and it is very glare-y exactly like you say here. Cheap, old amp that doesn't have the power output. Would you recommend the Schiit Asguard 3 or Magnius to pair with it?
you want class A amps. asgard or rebel. also try to EQ up the bass, LCD X will take it like a blank slate :)
@@bstrxn Thanks dude. Someone else recommended the Asgard 3 to me too. I think I will pick one up when they are back in stock.
Would the Arya be good paired with the Monolith THX 887 and the SNSL SU-9?
I have my Arya paired with the IFI Signature is this enough?
On Shenzhen Audio's website under the specs for the Gustard H16 it says: "Maximum undistorted output power 3700mW into 64Ω LOAD balanced output". Does that mean you will encounter some distortion if you're driving the Arya's at 35ohms impedance? I could be confused.
Edit: Im just bringing this up because I was looking at this AMP for driving my HE6SEs at 50ohms impedance.
Do you work for Apos?
Could I get some advise?
I currently have a Shiit stack, Magni 3 heresy and Modi 3. And I use a Drop-Sennheiser HD6XX. What would be my next step to upgrade? I think the build shown above would be a bit too much for me to just spend on something that I'm just starting out in. (Used my current setup for about a year now.)
Would I benefit from just a new Amp and/or DAC? And then I could upgrade my headphone whenever I find a good deal?
that espresso flowing like waterfall HURTS
What about this with idsd diablo? Can you please review the Diablo for a transportable build? It puts out 5w into 32ohm
I've just got an iFi Zen Dac and Sennheiser HD600 and promised my wife to stop buying headphones. This still makes me drool a little bit. I won't lie. :-)
So you prefer the gustard h16 over thx 789 for all the headphones or just for arya
Any chance you’ve tried the Arya’s with the Asgard 3?
How's the longterm wear (e.g. 3+ hours straight) with these headphones and the LCD-2Cs (and at lower volumes to prevent fatigue)? Kinda considering either this setup or maybe with the Schitts you mentioned.
Arya is very comfortable and can easily be worn for that length of time. I have big ears and have no complaints.
The lcd2c is still comfy but feels heavy and is hot on the ears after a while. They also seal around your ears so if you move with them on you feel the air pressure. I think its something you can adjust to though especially at the price vs arya.
Just to be clear, the lcd2c is a very different sound signature from the arya.