BB and Sean are the guru’s for transaxle Porsches. Depth of knowledge and experience with 944’s and 928’s is incredible. Have fun with your new project, looks like a car which has been loved not driven into the ground with no maintenance. 👍
You've got the earlier model seats. My car was the following year, with the later seats. Yours are better for the passenger on long distances because the headrest supports the head better while having a nap.
Stu, I was waiting for you to slide into the doorway in your shirt and socks singing 'I like that old time rock and roll' full Risky Business style ;) I will keep an eye out for you in the 928 around Wahroonga. Looks like you got a fairly good example there. Love the rear sun blinds in the hatch for the rear seat passengers. Cheers Steve
Great video. Such an underrated car IMO. Interesting you seem “anti” manual versions of this car but then spend the test drive rowing through the gears manually! The manuals are fantastic to drive - hard not to love a V8 manual. Each to their own. Looking forward to following the cars journey.
I actually tried for years to find a manual 928. I was just stating how people typically reacted when they test drove one. The manual gearchange improved a lot with the S4, with a shorter shift. Any manual car in good condition is rare but manual S4s are extremely rare. I kick myself for not buying a 928GT (which were manual only) when one presented to me. A few years ago I also traveled 1600km to inspect a manual 1979 car, but it had degraded so badly in the harsh seaside environment since the photos were taken 8 years earlier, it was beyond my capability to restore it. Cheap but I would have needed a second donor car to make one good one. So I would actually love to own a manual. To drive, even with the slowish gearchange, it's a different car completely from the auto. The 928GT is really lively - no complaints about the shift, the power and acceleration in that car. Spoiler alert : I am pretty sure the fuel injectors in my 928 are way past their prime. Get ready for a torque transformation when they are replaced. Future episode!
Nice one Stu! If you haven’t already, look up the EverydayDriver channel. In amongst new car reviews and comparisons, they take road trips with a 928 and 300ZX in all directions over the US starting in Park City, Utah. The earlier videos include details of the extensive work (and money) Paul had to put in to addressing deferred maintenance on the engine. The cost is a running joke between the hosts, but it’s resulted in a truly sweet example with the manual transmission in that wine red. Might be of interest to another 928 tragic. I’m only toe deep in the Porsche pool with a 986 Boxster (base), but even this maligned stepchild of the family has the magic that ruins you for other cars. I’m infected with the disease now! Keep up the good work.
Looking forward to seeing the video with BB Stu. Looks like you did well with the 928. Now, get it to BB stat and check everything that never gets done to 928s but should.
Simply awesome your S2 and your ability of German👌 That V8 burble is best thanks to the automatic transmission, the manuals are giving best throttlerespons also lower in the revs. Maybe you can upgrade the S2 with S4 discwheels with 245mm at the back. Good luck with your landshark!💪🏼😍😍
@@inCARnationAustralia German was a good attempt except your pronunciation of Porsch E. I'd be rapped over the knuckles by my German mum saying it as you do. Looking forward to your video with Bruce. He is a guru on all things 928 and willingly provides detailed replies on the Porsche forums such as Porsche Forums Australia. As a 1984 911 coupe owner I enjoyed your earlier video. Looking forward to more with your Landshark!
Great video. I have done everything on your initial list except the engine mounts. I learnt something about the window deflector and the lever arm potential fail. I have a new radiator in mine so I will check it. Rear cam seal on mine leaked oil. Front wheel wobble could be just an adjustment as they have a nut that sets the tension. Had it on mine. I thought you were going to reveal what oil to use. It will be great to hear from Bruce. I am in SA and wish we had a resource like him near us.
You should see the essay I got today from Bruce on oil. I do hope to do a video with him in person on that exact topic. The short answer is... trust the owner's manual! which for our old 928s says 20W50 with high ZDDP. If might be 40 year old advice but in our era of water-like super thin oils, even more important to stick with high viscosity, high oil film strength oils that maintain good pressure. But I'd like to let Bruce speak for himself. Thanks for the comment!
Oil: 0W-40 NOOOOOOO!!!!!! Never a 0W anything. Mobil Delvac 5W-40, or 20W-50 in hot climates. (Mobil Delvac 1™ ESP 5W-40) Oil pressure gauge will tell you if you're using the correct weight for the climate. Hot motor. Slowly increase revs from idle. By 2500 rpm the gauge should be showing 5 Bar max and stay there at higher rpm's. WSM has a table. If the gauge pegs full over, viscosity is too high, and vice versa.. Never ever use a 0W anything, such as 0W-30, it does not have the required Zinc (ZDDP) to protect sliding surfaces in flat tappet engines. ie Ours. 0W-30 was designed for roller-rocker engines. The oil industry grandfathered the 40W+ oil design to allow absolute minimum of 800ppm ZDDP. Most good oils have 1000+ ppm. HTH. John C.
Yes, well spotted. Close but no cigar Stu. Clarification 4664 cm3 16V OHC V8. 228kw 306hp 310PS @ 5900, 295 lb-ft 400 Nm @ 4100. Although my bum-o-meter knows this car is putting out a lot less power and torque than that at the moment. Refer to my disclaimer at the end under section (1) Alternate facts.
Sadly the '86 had less power than the '84. Porsche realised what crappy fuel we had and fitted lower compression pistons. The '87 onwards was a bit better but they were heavier. No, if you want a 928 that goes pretty well, you need the '89-'91 GT or the GTS.
@@inCARnationAustraliaWith the later cars I feel you lose the charm of the original design with minimal electronics. Faster sure, but more quiet and refined. For that I would just go for a modern Porsche. In a 928 I want as much of the 1970s experience as possible..noisy engine, leather and petrol smells and creaky vinyl thank you! Needing to rev the older cars is part of the fun as well, not to mention they are lighter.
@@chesswizard31 Yeah I get that, having owned 80,81,83,84 and 89 models. I see where you're coming from. My '89 S4 felt a little less nimble than the early cars. My electric 928 might interest you (videos on the channel) or it might seem heresy, but I am expecting the weight to be something around 1350kg or maybe even less, way lighter than any petrol 928, and possibly with a slightly more rearward weight bias although nothing like a 911. That should reduce the 928's understeer a tad and make it a bit sharper. The leather will smell, the vinyl will still creak, but it won't have the hydrocarbon smell I'm afraid. As for noise, I'm working on that. I want the burble!
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BB and Sean are the guru’s for transaxle Porsches. Depth of knowledge and experience with 944’s and 928’s is incredible. Have fun with your new project, looks like a car which has been loved not driven into the ground with no maintenance. 👍
Just bought my first 928 s4, your videos are always very insightful! Thank you
One of the best parts of my owning a 928 was getting the explanations from Bruce.
When on song....a great cruiser and still ahead of a lot of other classics from that era. I miss mine.
You've got the earlier model seats.
My car was the following year, with the later seats.
Yours are better for the passenger on long distances because the headrest supports the head better while having a nap.
Stu, I was waiting for you to slide into the doorway in your shirt and socks singing 'I like that old time rock and roll' full Risky Business style ;) I will keep an eye out for you in the 928 around Wahroonga. Looks like you got a fairly good example there. Love the rear sun blinds in the hatch for the rear seat passengers. Cheers Steve
HIlarious Steve. Helen laughed out loud.
Great video. Such an underrated car IMO. Interesting you seem “anti” manual versions of this car but then spend the test drive rowing through the gears manually! The manuals are fantastic to drive - hard not to love a V8 manual. Each to their own. Looking forward to following the cars journey.
I actually tried for years to find a manual 928. I was just stating how people typically reacted when they test drove one. The manual gearchange improved a lot with the S4, with a shorter shift. Any manual car in good condition is rare but manual S4s are extremely rare. I kick myself for not buying a 928GT (which were manual only) when one presented to me. A few years ago I also traveled 1600km to inspect a manual 1979 car, but it had degraded so badly in the harsh seaside environment since the photos were taken 8 years earlier, it was beyond my capability to restore it. Cheap but I would have needed a second donor car to make one good one. So I would actually love to own a manual. To drive, even with the slowish gearchange, it's a different car completely from the auto. The 928GT is really lively - no complaints about the shift, the power and acceleration in that car. Spoiler alert : I am pretty sure the fuel injectors in my 928 are way past their prime. Get ready for a torque transformation when they are replaced. Future episode!
Nice one Stu! If you haven’t already, look up the EverydayDriver channel. In amongst new car reviews and comparisons, they take road trips with a 928 and 300ZX in all directions over the US starting in Park City, Utah. The earlier videos include details of the extensive work (and money) Paul had to put in to addressing deferred maintenance on the engine. The cost is a running joke between the hosts, but it’s resulted in a truly sweet example with the manual transmission in that wine red. Might be of interest to another 928 tragic. I’m only toe deep in the Porsche pool with a 986 Boxster (base), but even this maligned stepchild of the family has the magic that ruins you for other cars. I’m infected with the disease now! Keep up the good work.
Very eloquent Lachlan
Brad Penn 20w50 is the only oil that will ever go in any of my 928s
I prefer the automatic in this car. Pretty bulletproof Mercedes transmission in these. I much prefer these to the 911s.
This made me smile
Looking forward to seeing the video with BB Stu. Looks like you did well with the 928. Now, get it to BB stat and check everything that never gets done to 928s but should.
As you know, the challenge with BB will be squeezing 4 hours into 10 minutes. Thanks Mark.
Simply awesome your S2 and your ability of German👌 That V8 burble is best thanks to the automatic transmission, the manuals are giving best throttlerespons also lower in the revs. Maybe you can upgrade the S2 with S4 discwheels with 245mm at the back. Good luck with your landshark!💪🏼😍😍
I was fishing for a compliment about my German and I got one. Hooray! Thanks Qwerty. (That's a strange name. Some mothers can be so cruel, eh?)
@@inCARnationAustralia haha maybe Qwerty is my surname 😉 Viel Spaß mit dem Porsche!
@@inCARnationAustralia German was a good attempt except your pronunciation of Porsch E. I'd be rapped over the knuckles by my German mum saying it as you do.
Looking forward to your video with Bruce. He is a guru on all things 928 and willingly provides detailed replies on the Porsche forums such as Porsche Forums Australia.
As a 1984 911 coupe owner I enjoyed your earlier video. Looking forward to more with your Landshark!
Great video. I have done everything on your initial list except the engine mounts. I learnt something about the window deflector and the lever arm potential fail. I have a new radiator in mine so I will check it. Rear cam seal on mine leaked oil. Front wheel wobble could be just an adjustment as they have a nut that sets the tension. Had it on mine. I thought you were going to reveal what oil to use. It will be great to hear from Bruce. I am in SA and wish we had a resource like him near us.
You should see the essay I got today from Bruce on oil. I do hope to do a video with him in person on that exact topic. The short answer is... trust the owner's manual! which for our old 928s says 20W50 with high ZDDP. If might be 40 year old advice but in our era of water-like super thin oils, even more important to stick with high viscosity, high oil film strength oils that maintain good pressure. But I'd like to let Bruce speak for himself. Thanks for the comment!
@@inCARnationAustralia I have been using Penrite 20W60 High Zinc.
I own 2 but never sold a 928 ever and I never will.
Picking up an S4 Tuesday...
Vot effer you do, don't mention zee oil. 🤣
Oil: 0W-40 NOOOOOOO!!!!!! Never a 0W anything.
Mobil Delvac 5W-40, or 20W-50 in hot climates. (Mobil Delvac 1™ ESP 5W-40)
Oil pressure gauge will tell you if you're using the correct weight for the climate.
Hot motor.
Slowly increase revs from idle.
By 2500 rpm the gauge should be showing 5 Bar max and stay there at higher rpm's.
WSM has a table.
If the gauge pegs full over, viscosity is too high, and vice versa..
Never ever use a 0W anything, such as 0W-30, it does not have the required Zinc (ZDDP) to protect sliding surfaces in flat tappet engines. ie Ours.
0W-30 was designed for roller-rocker engines.
The oil industry grandfathered the 40W+ oil design to allow absolute minimum of 800ppm ZDDP.
Most good oils have 1000+ ppm.
HTH.
John C.
221 kw = 297 bhp not 310 bhp.
Yes, well spotted. Close but no cigar Stu. Clarification 4664 cm3 16V OHC V8. 228kw 306hp 310PS @ 5900, 295 lb-ft 400 Nm @ 4100. Although my bum-o-meter knows this car is putting out a lot less power and torque than that at the moment. Refer to my disclaimer at the end under section (1) Alternate facts.
Weak motor crappy tranny , 86 S Manuel is the way to go.
Sadly the '86 had less power than the '84. Porsche realised what crappy fuel we had and fitted lower compression pistons. The '87 onwards was a bit better but they were heavier. No, if you want a 928 that goes pretty well, you need the '89-'91 GT or the GTS.
No way. The earlier the cars the better, Euro only of course.
@@inCARnationAustraliaWith the later cars I feel you lose the charm of the original design with minimal electronics. Faster sure, but more quiet and refined. For that I would just go for a modern Porsche. In a 928 I want as much of the 1970s experience as possible..noisy engine, leather and petrol smells and creaky vinyl thank you! Needing to rev the older cars is part of the fun as well, not to mention they are lighter.
@@chesswizard31 Yeah I get that, having owned 80,81,83,84 and 89 models. I see where you're coming from. My '89 S4 felt a little less nimble than the early cars. My electric 928 might interest you (videos on the channel) or it might seem heresy, but I am expecting the weight to be something around 1350kg or maybe even less, way lighter than any petrol 928, and possibly with a slightly more rearward weight bias although nothing like a 911. That should reduce the 928's understeer a tad and make it a bit sharper. The leather will smell, the vinyl will still creak, but it won't have the hydrocarbon smell I'm afraid. As for noise, I'm working on that. I want the burble!