Matt Taibbi on Misogyny, the Left vs. Free Speech, and the Killing of Eric Garner
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- Опубликовано: 10 янв 2018
- Few journalists have tossed more hand grenades or built more of a reputation for themselves than Matt Taibbi. We spoke with him about his new book, free speech and the left, and the recent negative attention that his work has received.
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Few journalists have tossed more hand grenades or built more of a reputation for themselves than Matt Taibbi, who covers politics and culture for Rolling Stone when not writing bestselling books, such as Griftopia, Insane Clown President, and most recently I Can't Breathe: A Killing on Bay Street, a powerful account of the death of Eric Garner, who died in police custody after being arrested for selling loose cigarettes in Staten Island. In 2008, Taibbi won a National Magazine Award for his columns and commentary at Rolling Stone.
With fame comes controversy. A 2005 piece for the defunct free weekly The New York Press was titled "The 52 Funniest Things About the Upcoming Death of the Pope." It was denounced by everyone from Hillary Clinton to Matt Drudge to Michael Bloomberg to that paragon of good taste, Anthony Weiner. With the publication of I Can't Breathe last fall, Taibbi has come under attack in a wide array of places ranging from Twitter to Facebook to The Washington Post for work that critics say is flat out misogynistic and sexist.
Taibbi has published at least two apologies about past work (much of which appeared in The eXile), but the firestorm has barely abated. He says that his support for Bernie Sanders throughout the 2016 campaign-even after Hillary Clinton won the Democratic nomination-is part of what's motivating the attacks on him, and is leading to something approaching a media blackout on his book about Eric Garner.
Reason's Nick Gillespie spoke with Taibbi about his new book, free speech and the left, the recent negative attention that his work has received, and issues on which progressives and libertarians overlap in powerful, if always uneasy, ways.
Interview contents:
1:48 - I Can't Breathe and the Eric Garner case
9:55 - Cell phone videos and their effect on criminal justice reform
11:43 - New York City and the origin of "stop and frisk" policing
18:37 - George Kelling and the origin of "broken windows" policing
22:44 - Crime reduction since the 90s
32:15 - Erica Garner's activism and death
34:56 - How libertarians and progressives can work together
37:29 - Journalism and "the new anti-speech movement on the left"
44:04 - Political tribalism and third party candidates
48:23 - Russian politics and U.S. election interference
51:49 - The sexual harassment allegations against Taibbi and his view of #MeToo
1:00:35 - How to promote heterodox, independent thinking
Edited by Justin Monticello and Todd Krainin. Camera by Jim Epstein and Andrew Heaton.
"Blammo" by Podington Bear used under a Creative Commons license.
Erica Garner, credit: Raffe Lazarian/ZUMA Press/Newscom
George Kelling Photo, credit: David Swanson/MCT/Newscom DIEGO OGAVE Notimex/Newscom
George Kelling Photo, credit: David Swanson/MCT/Newscom
Wow, Matt actually talked to everyone who was actually there. So few people ever consider doing that kind of detailed work.
Laura Powers Exactly. This guy is a real journalist. If more were like him, many issues we have in government wouldn't be able to be swept under the rug
Matt Taibbi is a really decent human being.
We can all try to be as good.
Says MrOrtloff, presumably a ninja at resisting arrest :-)
Wait, is drinking hot urine a ticketable offence now too? Lawmakers, will they never cease.
But back to the substance of the comment. Yes, I found Matt's comments regarding the black crime situation interestingly nuanced and enlightening to my views, and I look forward to listening to this interview again.
There is still that backstop though: don't, do not resist arrest, unless you want to enter into a world of hurt.
You can outwit them, you can use their own procedures against them, you can maybe vote in change (I doubt it, not until the clever productive people create enough better technology for the underclass to breed even more), but you cannot, we, the peons cannot resist arrest, not it the 1st World.
Mexico, and if your dad's called El Tabasco or similar, perhaps you can, if it serves the rulers, who may or may not be white, or Saudi or Chinese etc.
Thank you for your comments. At the end of the day, I didn't die an hour later at hospital, an hour after I didn't resist arrest, and wasn't born of a starkly contrasting discriminated against class and culture, that was recovering well until victim culture became a currency
In the late 90`s,Brooklyn,new york,i was picked up for an open container.I am a white guy,early 30`s at the time,it was a hot summer night and i was unaware of the law(visiting irish guy on a working visa).I was bent over a cop car,searched and thown into the back of the squad car ,abused verbally by the 2 cops and taken down the station.There i had my 30 dollars taken from me,my belt and a lighter,placed in a cell,handcuffed to an overhead pipe within the cell and left.I was furious and started to make a little noise,dragging the cuffs back and forth along the pipe and being generally pissed off.A cop came in after a while and thumped me in the stomach,winding me,i couldn`t breathe and couldnt double over as i was handcuffed to the pipe overhead.Later another cop came into me and asked whether they had taken 5 or 10 dollars off me at the desk.It was of course 30 which i stated clearly..they clearly wanted to make a few bucks.They kept me there till morning.
I was a bit green my Brooklyn friends told me.Never get involved with the cops in any way,shape or form.i could have been arraigned on the monday and ended up in the general population on Rykers island with my head in a spin and unless i had the money ,would be given a shitty lawyer and trapped in the judicial system.A few months later,Abner Louima was assaulted, brutalized, and forcibly sodomized with a broken-off broom handle by officers from the same precinct.
So i tell anybody going to New York or the U.S to keep their heads down and be under no illusions - to step out of line in the U.S you need money,lots of money.
My condolences.
Unforgivable treatment.
I stand with Matt Taibbi!
"In a democracy it is necessary that people learn to endure having their sentiments outraged."-- Bertrand Russell (who was not allowed to teach in NYC colleges because of his dangerous ideas).
Good thing we have never and will never be a democracy.
@@commiezombie2477oh no ?
@@dks13827 constitutional representative republics are not democracies. One is majority rule. The other protect the general liberties of the minority.
In a democracy people can vote to take away your stuff.
In a representative republic, the rights of the minority are protected. Thus nobody can vote to take away your stuff.
Although the man looks like Private Pyle with his head shaved, Matt is probably the most honest and centered journalist and author I have ever read. I highly recommend his body of work to anyone looking to have their mind blown and their preconceptions challenged.
Not Really.
Yes, Thinking Man, it's important to focus on his looks first, then judge him.
That look is awesome! Bald-beautiful beats the psuedo-lumberjack hipster beta-cuck thing.
He's the must uninformed and thoughtless journalist I've ever read.
@@laurenpage3548 be specific. He's one of the most scrupulous journalists working today.
One of the most persuasive theories for the drop in crime is that increased regulations reduced lead exposure-especially among children in urban areas where exposure to leaded gasoline exhaust was highest-but I'd imagine that solutions involving collective action and environmental regulations are inconvenient for libertarians.
Yeah, that a bazillion CCRT cameras, car alarms, electronic surveillance and the natural ageing of the boomer
OK Boomer.
If libertarians are using the ok boomer meme you know that it's a dead meme.
You need to threaten people with murder for collective action? How about you get off your lazy ass and convince people? But I can see how that could get dangerous for you. Nah, you’d rather go vote for some corrupt politician to do it for you. Then lecture all of us on your virtue. Typical!!
...or so the Germans would have us believe.
Taibbi gets better with each project, Nick Gillespie has done his homework, it's a great interview..
Best one with Matt I've seen so far
A total softball interview with no meaningful challenge to his thesis.
Please don't talk about my feces
ERC lol I bet you're a hit at parties
This is electric I think these 2 should sit down annually
Nick Gillespie: If Lou Reed was a member of the Beatles
Even though I'm a Progressive, I like a lot of the points Reason makes and I think these kinds of open discussions are nothing but beneficial. I'm glad you can someone like Matt or Jill Stein on and just have a conversation about where our views overlap without it becoming an endless debate about economics.
GoCrazyDontMindIfIDo I agree but remember it really all comes back to Austrian economics.
Since everything is economics, it only makes sense to study that filed of economics which makes sense and isn't supported by a government that wants to spend all your money.
@@spec24 What libertarians do not understand is that is that neoliberal economics has very real deficits not least of which is mythmaking of the "rational" individual in society.
I suggest you check out his interview with Ralph Nader a few years back.
No, @@jstrattonlobdell4175. It all comes back to /freedom/.
Mad respect for Matt Taibbi 🙌👏🏼
Matt Taibbi --> national treasure in the making.
I've been saying this for years now that Terry vs Ohio (allow cops to initiate their own complaints without consequence, defense bears the burden of full cost) was an act of treason against the American public. I'm glad someone is _finally_ bringing it up! It's also not a coincidence that fiat currency was enacted the same year ... think about it.
paragshah2112 they still need to articulate a crime though. Suspicion is neither a misdemeanor or felony. All you have to do is remain silent and in some states, you may need to ID. Thankfully, I live in TX and we have 38.02 in the books which means we only need to identify if we’ve been lawfully arrested. Anyway, yea, a crime is still needed for RAS.
what is "RAS" ? besides, the 17,000 _pages_ full of laws in the USC (and counting) has basically done away with the idea that any one of us is innocent at any given moment. the idea of being a law abiding citizen is not as simple as following the "10 commandments" or something. and remember, ignorance of the law is not an excuse ... unless you're acting as an agent of the state :-\
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things..."
The fact is that we are dealing with psychotic people ganging up.
With respect to the decrease in crime Jonathan Haidt (NYU) opines that the reduction in lead in gasoline reduced crime dramatically in the inner cities.
Hasn't anybody read Freakonomics. The reduced crime rate is related to Roe v Wade. The legalization of abortion and the would be coming of age of unwanted babies become criminals
@@miketenzer123 :The reduction in crime and violence happened worldwide not just in the USA but the thing is that not every country banned leaded gasoline at the same time and the drop in violence tracked the banning of leaded gasoline in each country.
The difference between leaded gasoline and abortion is that once leaded gasoline was gone you couldn't get it anywhere (specialty racing fuel and aviation fuel excepted) while women still were getting abortions before Roe v Wade (often via coat hangers, hence the symbology). Also abortion was never banned in many countries so lifting of such a ban would not explain a worldwide drop in violence.
@@miketenzer123
Yeah, much as I support reproductive choice, the data for the leaded gasoline is pretty solid.
The decrease in violent crime in the mid 90's may have something to do with banning leaded gasoline. Children exposed to high levels of lead are more likely to be criminally violent.
He’s a true legit journalist
He’s a beta
I read "Spanking the Donkey" while wait for jury selection when I got called for jury duty. Several times, I had to restrain myself from laughing out loud!
Taibbi offers a glimmer of hope in this shit-world where fox news is considered a legitimate source of information. I am quickly adding all of his works to my library.
but CNN and Rachel Maddow are just peachy, right?
NY highest cigarette taxes in the universe.. Lol, come down to Australia.
tj323i Smoke em if you got em.
$35 for a pouch of Rothmans is a crippling tax on the poor.
Man if this is true then the system is really fucked up. Why can't police actually do the "move him around the corner", why do they have to arrest people for everything?
I've watched alot of matt on YT lately, this is the best interview I've seen w him.
EPIC! love interviews with nick! partly even funny
Excellent interview
This was great!
This is probably one of my favourites long videos from reasontv, one of the reasons I subscribe (even when I started watching this because of the libertarian game of thrones)
Vicente Ortega Rubilar Great interview. I second that.
You haven't figured out that reasontv is well funded because of multinational corps?
Charity Navigator rated Reason Foundation 4/4 stars, and just about every single media outlet is mostly funded by multinational corps in one way or another.
Vicente Ortega Rubilar
You should read some of Taibbi's books. They're all great.
Both of you do great work. Thank you for your sane words in this crazy world of ours.
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Great interview! Again. This is the second time I've watched it.
Great interview; very powerful
43:00 media needs to “zag when everybody wants them to zig”
dig your work brother. you zagged too far for the bern...damn shame imo. He could use your expertise
That's eerie it was called "I Can't Breathe."
Yeah, I had to rewind the video to make sure I heard that right.
But the Garner case is, in some ways, comparable to the Floyd case. A older man commits some crime relating to money, each resisted arrest, each get subdued due to that resistance; and each suffocate and die as a result of the specific tactics used by the police.
I’ve heard rumblings that Floyd may have over dosed or at the very least, that he was high as shit on opiates which suppress your ability to breathe as it is. And that before Chauvin had his knee on Floyd, Floyd was already saying “I can’t breathe” for a few minutes:
At the very least, the cops need some more thorough and thoughtful training, *and civilians, especially men, especially especially black men, NEED TO LEARN HOW TO INTERACT WITH THE COPS.*
The police are the only group in society who have the legal right to engage in violence offensively. Everyone else gets defensive violence legally afforded to them.
Knowing that; and knowing that cops have to deal with the barbarism of society on a daily basis and how that some what justifies hyper vigilance for self defense, it should be a wide spread concept that when interacting with a cop, you accept whatever they give you. Recognize that it’s not a negotiation, that its not the time to fight or run or talk shit or bargain, it’s time to submit and if you are wronged by the government, you can sue the fuck out of them at a later date and leave the interaction alive and well.
Essentially every cherry picked case that BLM and the media have pushed out to our screens all share the same run up to the killing itself. In each one, the person killer did like 20 things that made their likelihood of being harmed or killed to up dramatically.
Somehow, the sorta civilian train side of these interactions is never ever mentioned in any meaningful way. All of the fault is placed on the cops and none is placed in the dead.
It’s as if people don’t actually care about preventing such events and instead simply want to game the sympathy of the masses to their own political and economic ends.
#Disarmthepolice
Wow great interview, late to the party here but loved this
Great interview
I think it’s now called “possible cause”
Watching Matt then vs now is wild as he’s changed his views a lot.
Not on this
fantastic interview! my compliment to Nick, I'm a huge Matt Taibbi fan, I'm no libertarian but the late Alexander Cockburn and the very much still alive and kicking Ralph Nader where and are great belivers in a left-right alliance when it comes to end imperial wars, abuse of civil liberties, and drug wars, and this was an outstanding interview and big fan of the ron paul liberty report, the American conservative, anti-war.com, Scott Horton, and was watching old reports of the Real News Network interviewing Matt Welch and others during Ron Paul's campaign. libertarians will hate Mark Ames who is a critic of libertarianism but him and Matt Taibbi's debunking and putting in context Putin and his critics and Russia under Yeltzin backed by the US that gave rise to Putin is something everyone should check out especially since both Ames and Taibbi speak Russian so they can understand and deconstruct the Russian press and tell people what is happening and what the western press continue to airbrush and distort anything Russia.and trust me what Greenwald goes through is nothing compared to the spite and vendetta his colleagues at the Intercept and others has pursued against Rania Khalek and others who not only debunk Russia conspiracy theories but also the lies on the Syrian conflict.
I voted Ralph Nader for the first time in 1996. Did it again in 2000 for good measure to let them know I was serious! When will America put up a candidate worth supporting?
@@idontlikefacebook4068 every four years there are countless people worthy of our votes from Cynthia McKinney,Rocky Anderson, Dr. Jill Stein, Gloria La Riva, Joseph Kisora of the Socialist Equality Party and yet people still support either the Democrats or Republicans and even this year the Greens and Libertarians have put forth very weak candidates. We need money out of politics, rank choice voting, proportion representation, an end to gerrymandering and the Democrats and Republican's political matchfixing and ridiculous things like ned billions of signatures just to run and get ballot access it shoudl be easy as hell to run and vote for your party then this rigged system which discourages people and make it way more complicated then need be.
@@Yourismouter Agree that it should be very easy to get on the ballot! Also, check out the use of periods in writing. They’re very handy.
@@meganbaker9116 haha! apologies for that!
@@Yourismouter You’re a good sport. 😊
Love Matt Taibbi. Not because I agree with him on everything, but because he seeks and speaks the truth.
I remember an article he wrote for Rolling Stone in which he imagined conservative women journalists and commentators in various sexual scenarios. It was pretty disgusting. But it’s typical.
This is what happens when we treat human lives as numbers. Fuck quotas in the military and police agency, it’s ridiculous. Why does it serve us to make sure that there is a certain number of arrests everyday? It doesn’t as far as I can tell.
anybody else notice Nick obfuscate when Matt was hammering down a good point?
Ask him about the Hungry Duck and its in house Cinematographer.
Wow, Matt Taibbi is an exceptional reporter and critical thinker. His ability to deconstruct complex social and political issues is laced with history and systemic interlocking systems in a way, few can do. This type of mind is necessary for the betterment of the evolution of humanity. He understands the issues and is not naive about how this system sets things up in a way to Quiet certain voices. However, just disturbed how to wrote about women and how he was socialized to be very misogynistic towards women in ways that were disturbing. Glad that he had time to engage in introspection on his approach and changed it with lots of insight.
I really like Matt’s reporting and this was a great interview, really getting into the weeds of the issues. Except the sexual objectification, I wish he would’ve pushed him harder on that.
Let me guess, postmodern feminist harpy?
Well done Sir!
IMO...”I Can’t Breathe” was a masterpiece.
Taibbi is best journalist in the US !!!!
What an amazing video
I am very proud to be a patron for Mr Taibbi, and I am very happy that he is on Reason. We are watching him lose the Liberal mindset, nice to see.
"Just because it works and is logical" 😂
What is interesting is that what really happened to Garner even though he wasn't selling single cigarettes was never covered in the MSM! The media needs to do its job, which brings up Matt's statement at 43:30 "that journalism has to be in service of something", that that is a "dangerous idea". It isn't if journalism's service is bringing objectivity to events, of simply presenting what happened, what was said, etc. In fact, that IS journalism's function in a democratic society, that is "being on the sidelines".
Great interview as always. Matt is 47?? looks like 27.
Talks like he's 11.
The average age for the population is the best predictor of crime .
The most annoying thing is the audio is out of sinc with the video
"yeah" "yeah" "yeah" "yeah, yeah" "yeah, yeah, yeah" "yeah" "yeah" "yeah, yeah"
Great interview overall
Federal & State law makers have made good faith immunity laws for officials. Judges, DA's, and elected have full immunity (except capital crimes)
Stop and Search are what started the riot's in Liverpool, 1981.
Spectacular conversation! People in general don’t understand sardonicism, they have either no sensayuma or a childish banana-peel one. “Watch out for that first step, it’s a doozy!”
I'm European, from Amsterdam. I have a question for US folks. What is it with Boston? How come so many independent thinkers/counter-culture/none-establishment folks are born or raised there? Matt Taibbi, Joe Rogan, Bill Burr, JFK.
Bro jfk was as establishment as you could be wym
For a militarized force to impose their definition of order at the barrel of a gun is "disorder."
We're supposed to be a free society. Rape, murder, assault, robery should be dealt with severely.
We have all kinds of laws to protect people from bodily harm and property damage.
Who gives a damn if you choose to buy your cigarettes one at a time. It's supposed to be a free country.
There are studies that suggest that even choice is subject to diminishing returns. Choice, or competition is great. Too much choice confuses people.
My argument would be that if no one chooses a widget, the corporation that makes said widget would decide it's not cost effective and would scrap or improve the widget. So therefore if competition is maintained, choice works itself out. When libertarians hollar "choice", I wonder what they are really talking about... one corporation making 100 different brands of widgets, or 100 different small businesses with 100 different brands. One is a little different than the other.
To be petit-bourgeoisie or grand bourgeoisie. Both mostly in their own minds as a dream of control and ownership.
Does anyone else think it's time for a lawful group of forensic accountants to examine any particular crime or group acting as public service or groups selling to anyone. Public Servants of Forenzic Accountants would examine:
Insurance Sales and Profits held,
Police ticketing, dispersment of such funds.
Your ideas please.
This just sounds good in theory. In reality, the numbers should all be public anyway (it’s our money damn it). One of the main flaws with your plan is that the Forensic Accountants Boards would eventually be bought and sold just the same. This would allow the government to fake transparency by pointing their approval from the board as legitimizing their operations. This would allow them to go on unchecked.
Rich Clark
Thanks I was considering the group Charles O rtel has experienced in France. Apparently the group still hasn't targeted the #ClintonCharityFraud to criminal court but they have taken some note.
Movies, tv, writing, and youtubers are in the storytelling business. So it’s fair to say sometimes people won’t let the truth interfere with a good story
30:00 How do you work backwards from that? Where are you going? It is as specific as it gets... For some people the slippery slope only goes one way...
The thing that blew me away about Garner's case was that BLM and the left didn't seem to care about it until they realized libertarians were making more noise about it. Then, suddenly, they got outraged. I guess Garner was too clean for them to want to champion, as they usually choose guilty people to protest over.
Big government and big bureaucratic types (such as Barry Sanders, Matt) necessarily create constant enforcement imperatives.
Enlightened body count
Slavers
Capitalism
Internal imperialism
Yet these terms are not used by these brilliant intellectuals.
Nick ask him a tough question for God's sake!
thnk u
18:30 the NYC police focused on neighborhoods where most of the crime was. violent crime is the worst in the black community. So why shouldn't police focus in those communities especially if you want to keep them safe? Is it better to not try to keep a neighborhood safe and worry more about "being racist"?
My god is this good!
'Stop and frisk'--
really called investigating local crime; this has been villainized by the media,
including Matt, for that matter.
Resisting arrest?
Never discussed by Reason here.
By the way, Garner HAD BEEN selling cigs, just not at that moment--hardly 'police abuse.'
well folks, as to the precipitous drop in crime during the mid 1990s I direct you to the 2005 book Freakonomics (chapter 4 - Where have all the criminals gone). the gist of which is that within societies (like the Scandinavian countries in the early 1900s) that legalized abortion, all experienced the same drop in crime shortly after a 20 year period. since most abortions are among the least financially available within a society, the ancillary benefit is that less criminals are born. thus, the drop in crime. some folks don't care for the reality of this, but in the end, the numbers don't lie......
Sure the cops used an unapproved hold ... but he resisted arrest ... if he had just done as the police asked he would be alive now
How you feel about Matt now after Twitter files? Coming from a moderate who thinks both sides are manipulated and used on both sides.
There are higher principles than those of personal opinion.
There wasn’t a detective on scene , wow Matt you research this ? Store owners called up,complained at community board meetings for loss of business
It's not a conservative argument to suggest that arrest in demographc areas with higher crime, will result in higher arrests of that demographic; it's a libertarian one.
54:30 It’s a trick you will use to get people to pay attention. To characterize people.
3:55 'It's amazing that prohibitionists don't think... If people want a product they're not going to come up with a way to get it.' Well, yeah, but here in the UK, that's the argument for high taxation of cigarettes as _opposed_ to prohibition. It allows the state to inhibit consumption without simply opening up the market to black marketeers. There's some black market, but nothing on the scale Taibbi describes, because it's not as easy to get cheaper cigarettes. To really work in the states, it sounds like it's something that would need to be done nationally, not just at a state level.
Not the place of anyone's national government to manipulate their populations, the inate superiority in thinking they should, insults credulity.
It's petty and hamfisted to boot.
@@mrsir2254 Well, it's not hamfisted in the UK. It reduces the number of smokers and the instances of smoking-related illness. And that doesn't seem petty either.
I don't really know what to say when people express libertarian principles as if they're absolute moral law. These things aren't axiomatic, they're not first principles. Try making a case for them. See if you can. Meanwhile, I'll go on being glad of good governance where I can get it.
The problem with the concept of 'punishing' people for minor offenses is that minor offenses don't respond to being 'punished'. In the military NCOs do not have the ability to 'punish' anyone. The sergeants are expected to 'correctively train' lower enlisted. There is a difference and not enough people understand that (including some sergeants). There should always be the concept of what are you actually training them in and what do they need to do to prove they get it and can return to the group. The idea of excluding someone from the unit is disruptive and if something is going to cause that the person doing it should have an obligation to figure out how to fix it. When someone is being correctively trained for something they can't help it isn't corrective training. So the concept of trying to train someone not to be black is oxymoronic. "punishment" is strictly the province of UCMJ in the military and only an officer is capable of doing that. Even officers have severe limits on what they can do. The idea that an officer can shoot a soldier in the head for disobeying orders not withstanding largely because there are also situations were lower enlisted can shoot an officer as well. UCMJ actually affects officers as much or more than lower enlisted as such things as regulations stating that an officer is responsible for the health and wellbeing of soldiers under their command imply the exact opposite of what a lot of people misunderstand about UCMJ.
My point being is that it is not enough to just punish someone for 'disorder', you need to help them figure out how to function in an 'ordered' society. That would get rid of allowing race to be a factor as anyone who wanted to 'punish' someone for 'disorder' would have an obligation to explain and teach the other person how to correct their behavior. If you can't do that you shouldn't feel entitled to complain about the other person being 'disordered'.
Those last 2 sentences are by far the dumbest things I have ever heard. The rest is bullshit too but that ending is epic.
@@abnormalmf If you can't explain what you are upset about why are you bitching? How exactly smart do you really think you are if you can't make a valid point? How stupid is it of you that you find it stupid that someone should explain where they are coming from? How much bullshit is your reply? I find it 'epically' ironic that your reply proves my point in the original comment. If you aren't smart enough to think your shit through perhaps you shouldn't be accusing others of being stupid.
The Garner story is a clusterfuck of police mismanagement. I support the cops, but they got it wrong in this case, hands down.
He is amazing.
Love Matt. Been reading him for 25 years.
The 1 issue I see here is that folk will think video guarantees a pass.
Well one side says property rights.
So logic says that those who feel they have a pass will be shot but not be happy. Well we all know that immoral people are meant for liberty or the constitution
i may not agree 100% with Matt but i know he has a 100% right nay duty to speak whatever he wants be it good or bad offensive or not i expect nothing more than him to exercise his freedom of speech
Commence male vocal fry.
Cops need to be scared of the public. If you haven't done anything, do not comply, no exceptions. Garner had every right to defend himself with up to deadly force, and then those thugs wouldn't be bothering anyone else.
For another take on Garner's demise, Google "A Lie That Just Won't Die: The 'Chokehold Death' Revisited."
An old Beatle talks to Mr. Clean.
32:00 b and w have some experience w police. But b hv more experiences / interactions w police.
Matt Orfalea what percentage complies though?
@@leazzel7 How would we have data on this trusting the police?
SPE was replicated a few times though
I loved this talk. But that was kind of a shitty move reading his early work out loud. As in the host didn't have to go in that hard, not for the question he asked. 50:30
Taibbi is one of the most important journalists out there. Great interview.
Sigh. People are so easily impressed these days👆. Taibbi certainly represents a certain white male in America right now who feels “left out” and has more than your average amount of bottled up rage towards women in particular. Shocker. The ones that voted Trump in 2016.
@@cateellington6653 Imagine being impressed by a guy who’s bilingual, written a bunch of books, spent 8 years researching, informing himself, and writing about Wall Street’s near destruction of the economy in 2008, and is not beholden to an agenda. You’re right. Folks like that are a dime a dozen.
Classic unintended consequences
💕
Abortion caused the drop in the crime rate.
I didn't see your comment. I'm just catching this interview a year after you did. I was surprised to hear that at the one-hour Mark or they are having this discussion. I would assume these two gentlemen had read Freakonomics and would understand that the legalization of abortion and Roe v Wade and the timing of the growing up of those would be unwanted children coincided with the drop in crime
If you like Matt, try michael brooks
He's a grifter, owned by Sam Seder, who is owned by MSNBC.
Hard pass, big brain.
I'm actually anti-war.
Well this aged well. 💀
It's not an excuse? It's not a good thing, it's not fair but it makes sense they will stop more people in high crime areas.