Budget Anvil Review: Bargain...or BS?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2023
  • The price of anvils has gone through the roof in recent years. We'll review a budget-friendly anvil, the Acciaio cast steel anvil from on-line tool supplier VEVOR. Is this crucial forging gear too good to be true? Or is it a genuine bargain for knife makers, blacksmiths, metal fabricators or even farriers? Find out here!
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  • @ThatWorks
    @ThatWorks Год назад +96

    I’ve always said that whatever gets you forging! Ilya and I did a demo of forging a sword blade using a sledge hammer head mounted in a Vice as an anvil and it worked just fine! Just do!!! Always forward, never back!

    • @bmxriderforlife1234
      @bmxriderforlife1234 Год назад +2

      Lol the dude who first got me into smithing and taught me gave me a self done anvil he made that was basic AF and then a smaller hunk of road rail scraps cut to size.
      Think he case hardened the cast bit. Worked real well for when I wasn't at his workshop. Kinda wish I coulda grabbed his one anvil when he passed though, biggest one I've seen and seems to just be really nice quality in every way.

    • @sinisterswordsman25
      @sinisterswordsman25 Год назад +1

      My dad bought me a el cheapo anvil 4 or 5 years ago. I love it. I haven't really put through its paces like a serious blade smith would. But after 4/5 years it's still good. Gotta start somewhere and sometimes good enough is more than enough.

    • @b.ohugin610
      @b.ohugin610 Год назад +1

      Absolutely! I watch a lot of videos of blacksmiths and bladesmiths in India, Indonesia, etc. Those smiths often use a sledge hammer head or just a round or square piece of steel. They make very durable knives and machetes with minimal tools. Imo use what you have and focus on getting proficient with it.

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. Год назад +1

      Wise words, and the brass tax facts

    • @bmxriderforlife1234
      @bmxriderforlife1234 Год назад

      @B. O'hUgin sometimes it's all about certain info. Don't cold forge. Don't burn the steel. And good heattreatment for the steel choice.
      I mean....I kinda surpassed albion swords with a steel just as cheap. And in theory an equipment that lets you create the heat treatment I did. Via stock removal only. In theory as iyla points out many times, there are benefits from forging besides just speed. Cut cutting tips on single edged swords or curved swords is a decent difference. Even with fancy grain refinement techniques, high metallurgy processes, fancy equipment including salt baths and fluidized sand beds.
      A good Smith. Just as skilled and knowledgeable as me. But with better basic equipment experience and better temp control via hand, could beat me with just a hot cut tip and the same process. It'd be minimal but tip damage would be reduced but alot for same stressers applied.
      I essentially do the Howard clark bainite hamon. Snd some other fancy stuff h3 also does. He uses propane or gas heated salt baths and temp contro via pure skill. I'm using induction and temp controls electronically. Only thing actually required is knowledge practice and the right equipment. But fancy whit could let someone woth only theoretical knowledge apply it. Vs simple equipment requires more true skill.
      The old school basics. With modern understanding of science and processes is what's needed to truely gain mastery imo. Health wise I'll never be a master Smith. But some tools can help me get close. Without the tools I can be a master blade maker with understanding everything short of black smithing and learning stock removal instead..
      Many methods to skin a cat. Only one way to properly master a skill though. If you can't do it with the basic tools and make new tools. You can't master it even with the fancy tools.

  • @robertdamen7726
    @robertdamen7726 Год назад +40

    Also, When a product is gifted to a RUclipsr for review, always question if that was one off the shelf or if it were cherry picked for the review.

    • @Randy-1967
      @Randy-1967 Год назад +1

      Exactly

    • @2drsdan
      @2drsdan Год назад +4

      I bought one, IT'S NICE! and as a second anvil to my vintage real deal that fresh face, again, is nice.
      Good bounce, weird horn, it rings, I like mine.

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. Год назад +1

      Thousands own these and the reviews beat out foolery. I don't even use my 300lb anvil anymore did to good easily I can move around this smaller anvil.

  • @c0t1
    @c0t1 Год назад +11

    I've had the 66 lb one for several years and use it all the time. Zero problems - love it.

    • @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd
      @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd Год назад +1

      How much did you pay for it and which scammer drop shipper did you buy it through? Did they stencil their name on it or was it sold by it's real name Acciaio?

  • @edwardgiovannelli5191
    @edwardgiovannelli5191 Год назад +10

    I have a 132lb Vevor, but the black version - which is the same pattern as the blue, but hardened to 55RC. I'm really happy with mine. I stripped it to bare metal the weekend after I got it, first to look for bondo (there was almost none) and to clean up the casting. The horn was pretty rough, but cleaned up nicely with very few visible imperfections and it took maybe an hour to get it to a near mirror finish on the top and sides. The face is surface ground, and the sides/bottom are rough cast.
    The hardy is about 1.125, which is big, but not a deal breaker by any means, my local steel supplier has 1 1/8" square 1018 bar in stock so making tooling is no big deal so far. The pritchel is, however, useless.
    Side note, the crate that mine came in seemed to say it came from the Czech Republic, not China. In fact I saw nothing about China anywhere... no 'made in China' stamp, no fake chinese inspection certificates, no chinese writing inside or out. That doesn't mean anything necessarily, but labor rates in eastern Europe are pretty low, and this is a European pattern anvil with Italian writing on it. If I had to wager a guess as to its provenance, I'd say the Czechs made it.

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. Год назад

      The country you mentioned, I think is in Central Europe. I didn't find any Bondo on mine. I sorta think it's a myth as I know so many others that also didn't have any. Maybe heavy paint but not body filler

    • @edwardgiovannelli5191
      @edwardgiovannelli5191 Год назад

      @@Arthurian. It was light grey, like bondo, perhaps it was primer, but it was very thick and filled in a shallow depression on the side of the casting.
      Either way, I am very happy with it and it is standing up very well to use.

  • @daveintheshed4870
    @daveintheshed4870 Год назад +17

    I have one and I like it alot. I'm just a hobbyist of course but these budget tools enabled me to have a go at it so no regrets. I only pound out maybe 3-5 knives a year but really no dents worth mentioning. Ive had it 6 years.

    • @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd
      @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd Год назад +1

      Did you pay nearly $500 for it? Or did you buy it at it's actual real price, $150?

    • @daveintheshed4870
      @daveintheshed4870 Год назад

      @@bashpr0mpt-rc5dd I got it on sale for $200, I think regular price was $279 But I'm in Canada so prices are higher than US

  • @TheArtofCraftsmanship
    @TheArtofCraftsmanship Год назад +4

    I’ve had mine a bit over a year, and I’m still happy with it. I use my antique sawyers anvil a bit more often, but it lacks a horn or hardy, so I jump back and forth. Thanks for the honest review.

  • @scotthale940
    @scotthale940 Год назад +5

    Hey Walter. Used to bug the crap out of you about Forging years ago. Like to see the Hail State. Glad to see you still interested in educating others. --- Scott/ Mississippi. Hail State.

  • @Aminuts2009
    @Aminuts2009 Год назад +1

    I own a 242lb. Rhino, no longer made i believe. And its a great anvil. Recently was teaching a small group of brothers some simple things. Upsetting, drawing a point, making drive hooks and the like. I have a small rail anvil, a 60lb. Henry Wright and we needed one more. A local steel and pipe supplier started selling Cliff Carrol Anvils. And they have the 35lb for around $215. I ran right down and got one. Best buy I ever made for blacksmithing. I use it for all my small projects. Made in USA. By an American maker. And my local steel guy sells them I didn't see any down sides.

  • @edwardsdigital
    @edwardsdigital Год назад +5

    I bought the 88lb version as my first anvil 2 years ago and it’s held up fine for me. It’s not perfect but it got me going and I still use it occasionally.

    • @Invictus13666
      @Invictus13666 Год назад

      “Occasionally”...what did you replace it with? Just curious 👍🏽

    • @edwardsdigital
      @edwardsdigital Год назад +2

      @@Invictus13666 unfortunately it’s just been a lack of time to do much forging in the last year. The anvil itself has been great, but it’s been used on projects of necessity rather than hobby work lately. Hopefully I’ll get some time this year to do more hobby stuff.

    • @Invictus13666
      @Invictus13666 Год назад +1

      @@edwardsdigital I heard that! Hope we both get time to pursue hobby stufff.

  • @darrell840
    @darrell840 Год назад

    Walteeeeer!!!! Thanks for new content. You are amazingly amazing. Love your stuff

  • @18deadmonkeys
    @18deadmonkeys Год назад

    thank you for this review! Actually considering picking this up as my entry point into forging.

  • @toddellner5283
    @toddellner5283 Год назад +1

    I got their 30 kilo anvil a year ago and was happy with it. It's now gone to my nephew, and I upgraded to their 62 kilo version with a 20% Black Friday Amazon discount. Again, happy with it. I did need to radius the edge and the hardy hole.

  • @CausticPuffin
    @CausticPuffin Год назад +3

    I’ve been using one of these for knife making. Had it about a year. It’s a bargain for sure. It beats the stump anvil I started with. If you have decent heat and mass management, it’s a great value to get in the game.

  • @jort93z
    @jort93z Год назад

    I was looking at that exact one on amazon. Nice review/showcase

  • @tpadgett2
    @tpadgett2 Год назад +1

    I have owned and daily run the hell out of their 2x72 (comes as a 2x82, takes a 5 min mod a child could do to convert) that I got with all the attachments and a VFD for $989, for about a year. It has literally not failed me in any way. It's held up better than I could have dreamed. I've made a couple mods to the work rest and such, same as I would with any $5000 US made grinder, but that's about it. I run it every single day, for multiple hours, it's the only full size grinder in my shop, and it has been awesome. Now, I know there are better machines out there, better fit and finish, better components prob, etc, but I guarantee there is nowhere near as good of a deal on the market.
    I'm super happy to hear the anvil is a serviceable tool, as I am badly in need of a larger one for my shop. This will definitely be on my next tool acquisition list! Thanks for the review, Walter.

  • @lunarthief6501
    @lunarthief6501 Год назад +9

    This looks like a pretty good budget option. I picked up an NC anvil a year ago, shipping was almost free. This may be a better choice if I had to start again.

    • @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd
      @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd Год назад +1

      It's being sold at $500. It is purchasable for $150. That means someone is charging $350 to stencil their fake company name onto it. No, that's not good.

  • @RealJohnnyAngel
    @RealJohnnyAngel Год назад +2

    My family got this for me for Christmas this year. I saw the blue paint and immediately dreaded it was an ROK. but when i realized it wasn't, i was still apprehensive, but also, i could weld a 1" plate on the top and harden it myself if needed. Glad to see it'll do for what i expect to do with it.

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. Год назад

      If your family bought you this mate, it means your experience is likely low in this field. The desire to weld a face plate onto these is so odd. It's cast still mate, no need.

  • @andrewneilson227
    @andrewneilson227 Год назад +1

    Vevor is going HARD on their marketing. I have their bargain 2x82 grinder, and I am very happy with the performance based on the price

  • @neilyakuza6595
    @neilyakuza6595 Год назад +1

    I have the 110 lb version for 4 years now. I love it. Great value for the money. Thanks for doing the review for the 132 pounder. Vevor is out of stock at the moment, I am waiting for them to be in stock again and I will buy one.

  • @Qrunch
    @Qrunch Год назад +1

    Much needed review, judging by what I see people discussing online.

  • @phillean
    @phillean 11 месяцев назад

    Very useful, thanks

  • @jonadams4062
    @jonadams4062 Год назад

    thank you for the review, Mr. Sorrells. I personally have an anvil but am often asked where to find one cheaply. This will help.

  • @christurley391
    @christurley391 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @charleslamica5123
    @charleslamica5123 8 месяцев назад

    I own three of the 66 pound Vevor anvils and use them when teaching beginning blacksmithing classes. They are perfect for my needs. Reasonably priced and able to withstand the rigors of inexperienced students banging on them.

  • @uridog5
    @uridog5 Год назад +1

    love your vids

  • @tomjoseph1444
    @tomjoseph1444 28 дней назад

    My 90lb Wilkinson made in 1910 has fantastic rebound over it's entire surface. I am selling it tomorrow for $360. With other antique quality anvils around my area going for similar prices, I can't understand why anyone would pay dang near the same price for a cast Chinese anvil.

  • @RyanBarnes
    @RyanBarnes 8 месяцев назад

    I decided to pick one up because of this video. Of note, your code has expired, but as a new customer and a welcome gift they gave me almost $50 off, and free shipping. So, not gonna complain at all!

  • @w.williams2694
    @w.williams2694 Год назад

    Just getting started with forging. Had my Vevor delivered yesterday. It seems to be perfectly suited for me to develop and practice basic skills. If I see this is something I really want to invest a lot of time and effort into going forward, I'll probably upgrade in a couple of years. But for now, the Vevor works well.

  • @Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm
    @Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm Год назад

    I bought one of these a while back. Still haven't gotten it mounted on a good base. I liked the way a steel ball bearing bounced off it. The Hardy and the other round hole are rather crude, but seem sufficient for farm use. I was considering an anvil I saw at a pawn shop, but they wanted $400.00 for it, and it was used and abused, and it only weighed 100 pounds. At 132 pounds, and with crisp new edges that I can shape to my satisfaction, I think the Vevor anvil is a good buy. I won't be doing any 'Production' work on it, but for an old farmer, it should be a useful tool. You gave a good and honest review, thank you!

  • @midias12
    @midias12 Год назад +1

    I got mine years ago still very happy with it and 66lbs for $130 at the time

  • @CoyoteFallsForge
    @CoyoteFallsForge Год назад

    That anvil is what I use. Eventually I plan to replace it but until then it's getting the job done nicely. When mine arrived the blue "powdercoat" or whatever it's supposed to be was tacky and got on everything, so I took an angle grinder with a flap disc and cleaned the whole thing up, then sprayed everything but the face and horn with rust inhibitor. I also smoothed the horrible pebble texture on the horn so it would be useable and dressed the edges. I gave up on cleaning up the hardy hole after way too many hours trying to file it into a square, so I've settled for bobbing the corners on my hardy tools a bit so they fit. All in all, though, I'd say I definitely got my money's worth, and very quickly made more through blacksmithing projects than I paid for the anvil and the 4x4's and hardware I made its stand from.
    Another major benefit of this little anvil is it's easily movable, so I can reconfigure my work space as needed when I have non-blacksmithing projects to take care of. I actually put large wheels on the side of the base so I can tip it like a hand dolly and wheel it to the corner. Until I get a dedicated forge workshop, it's very useful for me to be able to do that.

  • @stoneinthefield1
    @stoneinthefield1 Год назад

    Love to see a review of some Holland Anvils. (H13 steel). I own the 46lbs stump anvil and like it for the small stuff I do.

  • @chewyakarieckenicholas6049
    @chewyakarieckenicholas6049 Год назад

    I have one of the 22 pound anvils from vevor and I have to say it has taken a beating in my shop and I am really happy with it I plan to buy one of the bigger ones as soon as I can so I can say from experience that they r a good deal and I would absolutely say they are worth every penny

  • @alandesgrange9703
    @alandesgrange9703 Год назад +2

    Looks better than the junk that dents on the very first hit.

  • @Friedbrain11
    @Friedbrain11 Год назад

    Seems like a very good value and it does the work required. I would buy one if I had a shop...I am just a hobbyist so it would be just about right.

  • @LordThree
    @LordThree Год назад

    I’ve got that anvil. I’m sure it’s not perfect but I’ve done some stuff with is and it seems to hold up

  • @iwantcheesypuffs
    @iwantcheesypuffs Год назад

    I agree with the master Blacksmith who taught me -- use your "homebrew" anvil till you can make enough money to buy a real anvil. It will make you appreciate it that much more if you do. Mine was a very thick piece of H-bar (10") mounted on a thick piece of Elm from a tree cut down in the area. Projects were somewhat limited because of no horn or hardy hole. This is the anvil I saved up for and it's been serving me well for a while now.

  • @mathurm100
    @mathurm100 Год назад

    I have one of these. took an angle grinder to it and got rid of the blue paint that would come off on anything that came into contact with it. got rid of the mold lines on the horn and then covered it (minus the face) in a rust converter to give it a black oxide finish. thing performs quite well and a HUGE step up from a cast iron harbor freight pile of crap. well worth the money IMHO for starting on.

  • @metawakening6233
    @metawakening6233 Год назад

    I've been really happy with mine

  • @BovineDevine
    @BovineDevine Год назад

    I've had one for 2 years now. No regrets. It works fine.

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 Год назад +1

    Hi Walter: just wondering did Vevor have editorial control over your video ? ie. did they approve or review it before you posted it ? Tends to happen a lot with review videos on youtube so I always ask the question, nothing personal.

  • @tobymaples7646
    @tobymaples7646 Год назад

    I just got a free anvil from my father-in-law. Not really sure on the condition yet, but I will go pick it up today and clean it up.

  • @natewesselink
    @natewesselink Год назад +1

    Picked up one of these about a year ago and my experience with it mirrors yours, for the price it's a fantastic anvil but it's yet to be seen how long they will last.

  • @mattthomas1369
    @mattthomas1369 Год назад

    I have the 132 lb achaio and love it

  • @Bridgercraft
    @Bridgercraft Год назад +1

    I bought a 25kg version from Vevor a few years ago when I was just getting started in forging. It was all I could afford at the time but it's held up remarkably well to some pretty heavy use.
    I would suggest you grind off the blue paint from the horn though, it tends to burn when you put a hot piece of steel to it and smells all kinds of carcinogenic!

  • @MoabYoda
    @MoabYoda Год назад

    I got the same blue 60kg anvil a while back. I already owned 2 other anvils a antique 140# Hay Budden and a 115# Mankle similar to Walter's. I got it for a class I was hosting that required we have at least one more work station and this thing was pretty cheap so I figured it would be good for beginners to learn on. I was very surprised at how good it is. Great 80%+ rebound and I love the wide face and the flat horn. It has become my go to anvil to work on even though I still own the other 2. I just like the features on it and I don't need to worry about damaging my more valuable anvils if miss a hammer strike. It does dent a bit if you miss with a hammer corner but I found if you smack the dents with a flat face of the hammer you can mostly flatten them back out. If you are on the fence about this don't be. It's a great buy. Clean up the horn and sharp corners and wire wheel off the ugly paint and you will have a great tool that is very functional.

  • @Bob_Adkins
    @Bob_Adkins Год назад

    For that price, even case-hardened is fine. Some steels (EG with a high manganese content) work harden, so they get shallow dings when new but harden up very well with use.

  • @jessew5152
    @jessew5152 Год назад +17

    "Blue anvils" came in three generations and are made by a handful of different facilities - I've seen them with different maker names but they're all exactly the same. The previous two generations were very poorly made mystery cast iron and often had cavities and fractures. They were notorious in the online blacksmithing community (which was tiny back then). The third generation seems to have hit production about 5 years ago, and they are great little anvils for hobby blacksmiths or people just getting into it. Just don't buy an older used on because you could end up with an earlier gen.

    • @daw162
      @daw162 Год назад +2

      the original versions were cast iron. Predictably bad. if the current anvils are hardened and tempered cast steel, they're similar to all of the expensive types. just with the expectation (well, unless someone doesn't agree for themselves) that they still won't be as dialed in as european anvils.

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. Год назад

      ​@@daw162 Holland anvils, made in Michigan are the best in the world, over any European anvil.

    • @Moondog-wc4vm
      @Moondog-wc4vm Год назад

      @@Arthurian. Not having used the Holland make I can't compare, but I bought a German Becma anvil a few years ago and I'm very happy with it. I also use these in the larger 55 kg version at the shop I take lessons at and both of them are just as good. The rest of the anvils in that shop are vintage London pattern Peter Wright anvils and while the London's are better anvils because of their shape, I can't see any difference in quality. All the anvils are used day in day out by students (most of them just beginning their smithing experience) and all of them stand up to the abuse offered to them by beginners, intermediates and experienced smiths. I'd like to try one of those Hollands, just to compare it to the ones I have already used.

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. Год назад +1

      @@Moondog-wc4vm I agree. I was being humorous, hoping someone would do as you did and share anecdotal experiences.
      I learn so much this way.
      I have one of these anvils as well. It works a real treat, and like you I prefer this pattern as well.

    • @Moondog-wc4vm
      @Moondog-wc4vm Год назад +1

      @@Arthurian. Thanks ✌ The more we learn, the better we get.

  • @ryanblystone5153
    @ryanblystone5153 Год назад

    thank you

  • @SiliconeSword
    @SiliconeSword Год назад

    I used a rail for years and hated it, but was then given a real 180 pound anvil by a friend. After hours of angle grinding the thing was useable and I used it for a year, but after a falling out with that friend he then stole it. I ended up with a 11X9X3.5 bar of steel which I welded a plate of 1/2 inch AR500 steel, both of which I surface ground before welding the two together. The thing has surpisingly good rebound for not being forge welded together and is actually better than the 180 pound anvil, and it will absolutely not take a dent from a 10 pound sledgehammer if you go full blast with the corner of one. The welded plate likely does not bow after a bit because there is probably a vacuum inside and that won't let the plate bow any more.

  • @scotthargraves576
    @scotthargraves576 Год назад

    Well, I guess we will find out. I just ordered one. 🙂 *EDIT - delivered in 3 days with free shipping! I just unpacked it and will need to build a stand for it. If I knew how to post photos of it I would.

  • @johnjude2685
    @johnjude2685 Год назад

    Just a week ago got the 66 lbs, and UPS said 64 lbs, but I didn't weigh it myself.
    Did come little ruff and I did clean up the edges.

  • @dmanplays9220
    @dmanplays9220 Месяц назад

    I didn't mind getting a cheap one. I've always dreamed of shaping metal and honestly for the first little bit I doubt I'm going to be making anything massive or humongous probably start small with the basics j-hooks with scrolls simple stuff like that

  • @canlite
    @canlite Год назад

    Stopped by to say i just saw you on tv. Haha.

  • @jacksnyder404
    @jacksnyder404 Год назад

    Great video. How about a budget friendly belt grinder

  • @MrBodeci
    @MrBodeci Год назад

    I like mine it has held up decently

  • @mickeyfilmer5551
    @mickeyfilmer5551 Год назад

    I bought one about 8 montghs ago, and apart from the rough beak , that I dressed with a flap wheel it's a great bit of kit for the price (Don't buy the cast iron ones though- they can break if you hit them too hard- get the cast steel)

  • @Peter-od7op
    @Peter-od7op Год назад

    Ty iam retired fixed budget but my son want to try blacksmith. He just made eagle scout heck why not get this anvil

    • @edwardgiovannelli5191
      @edwardgiovannelli5191 Год назад

      I got one a couple months ago and I'm really happy with it. Note that there's a blue version and a black version. The blue are rated at 50 Rockwell C and the black ones are 55, so a little harder.
      When I ordered mine, the black one was on sale so it was actually cheaper than the blue, I paid 275 delivered.
      Also, the 132's have a squat horn, very oval, but the 110's have a more round horn, which I kinda wish I would have gotten the smaller one cause I learned on a round horn anvil so the oval horn feels all wrong. This is, of course, just personal taste, and I'll probably get used to this one and come to prefer it.

  • @user-ox1pl3po9k
    @user-ox1pl3po9k 2 месяца назад

    I have one. it rings loudly and bounces a hammer well. Steel, not iron .The one I have is only 55 pounds, so it can be shipped. But damn, a decent 130 pound anvil for $260 is a hell of a deal! But it would have to be sent by truck, not UPS.

  • @ThomasShue
    @ThomasShue Год назад

    I just bought one for $235 shipped let’s see how it goes?

  • @Kadranos
    @Kadranos Год назад +1

    Apparently "Acciaio" is just Italian for Steel.

  • @a-k-jun-1
    @a-k-jun-1 Год назад

    Bought one of those but the next smaller size, had to get the smaller one due to shipping to Alaska is not cheap over 120lbs. seems to be holding up just fine and for the price, I couldn't buy a chunk of mild steel at the scrap yards here. Like the others say, if you are just starting out and this fits your budget then get it and smith away. If you plan on making a career out of smithing then plan on a Peddinghaus or Holland or similar anvil after you recover from sticker price shock.

  • @Irishpete78
    @Irishpete78 Год назад

    I've got one, and it's stood up to my poor hammering skills fine. Only issue I've had is that it's ringy af, so it's now got a bunch of chain wrapped around it to save my eardrums.

  • @zaph3
    @zaph3 Год назад

    How do I send an anvil for you to review? Maybe a forge?

  • @philochristos
    @philochristos Год назад

    It would be interesting to cut it in half with a water jet and see if it has any voids in it.

  • @NeillWylie
    @NeillWylie Год назад

    Not gonna lie, seems to be reasonable. Might have to give one a try.

  • @peltiereric6497
    @peltiereric6497 Год назад

    Walter did you flip it over and check the underneath between the feet when you got it? These anvils are great for the money for someone on a budget but the company has a bad habit of using Bondo to cover up sizable casting flaws between the feet so when you get the anvil you have to use a stick welders chipping hammer and peck at the belly between the feet of the anvil to reveal the Bondo and see if it’s minor flaws or substantial flaws. Unfortunately I didn’t find mine until after the 30 day return period was up so I had to weld mine up. Also the steel appears to be C45 which is what they call 1045 which is a shallow hardening steel

    • @edwardgiovannelli5191
      @edwardgiovannelli5191 Год назад

      The steel is indeed 1045, but that is a through hardening steel and *can* be surface hardened if desired (which is the case with these anvils).
      Mine had only a single shallow spot of bondo on the side, which I wire wheeled out to find it was less than 1/8 deep, so I put that in the 'not worth complaining about' file.
      To be fair though, I used to work for an industrial machinery company and we put bondo on our castings all the time to pretty them up. These were $500,000 to $1,000,000 machines.

    • @peltiereric6497
      @peltiereric6497 Год назад

      @@edwardgiovannelli5191 1045 is a shallow hardening steel compared to something like 4140 which is a through hardening steel is more what I trying to say with that comment. As far as the Bondo goes, if it was a few pock marks then no big deal but when it’s more than silver dollar size and more than an inch deep and multiple spots like that then there’s a problem. What’s also a problem is that in my case I didn’t know to go looking for the Bondo right away and didn’t find it until 6 weeks later and they refused to to even talk to me about it

  • @rickcorkum89
    @rickcorkum89 Год назад

    i bought a very similar anvil on amazon. its been great and i thought it was funny it still qualified for free shipping!
    lol

  • @Donorcyclist
    @Donorcyclist Год назад

    I know it would take a lot of heat to do it, but I wonder if you could take this anvil, heat it and quench it like you do with a knife, then anneal it. Would that ensure that you get an anvil that can put up with daily use?

    • @chrismay2298
      @chrismay2298 Год назад +1

      What in the video made you think it's not already serviceable for daily use...?

    • @Donorcyclist
      @Donorcyclist Год назад

      @@chrismay2298 the unknown depth of hardening, unknown hardness (it was a guess by Walter), and what looked to me like excessive surface damage as the hot metal was worked. Other than that, nothing, really. 🤣

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z Год назад

      You can't really harden it to the core with a normal forge setup. It is much too large.
      Depending on the steel, you might be able to case harden the surface.
      That said, it is likely the manufacturer can harden it better than you can.
      Getting small scratches and whatnot into an anvil is normal.

    • @edwardgiovannelli5191
      @edwardgiovannelli5191 Год назад +2

      @@Donorcyclist Mine ranges from 52 to 56, and since its 1045 all the way through, you could send it to a heat treater any time to have it re-hardened, and if you were willing to pay for it, you could have it just about through hardened. That said, in several months of fairly hard use, I see no remarkable surface damage on mine. Walter also stated there was no discernable damage on his sample.

  • @markgoggin2014
    @markgoggin2014 Год назад

    I have one of those. Be or just rebrands them. The horn is dead soft

  • @spacemanplayz5690
    @spacemanplayz5690 Год назад

    Walter, I've been looking at one of these for a anvil surface on a stand for my leg vice. Soo I've been watching all the videos on them i see pop up and i laughed when you were unsure of the pronunciation. not one video ive seen has anyone tried with much confidence to say it. but after you said " sounds italian but made in china.." bit i wondered what Acciao meant or if it was italian or chinese maybe for something else and According to Google Translate 'Accaio" is Italian for "Steel"......Kinda generic naming i should have expected. lol none the less at least we know what it means!

  • @russelljohnson6243
    @russelljohnson6243 Год назад

    I gotta say, I'm totally surprised by this review! I bought a Harbor Freight anvil and it was complete crap by any measure and I expected to hear the same about Vevor. Well, I think maybe I'll buy a Vevor product then.

  • @b.ohugin610
    @b.ohugin610 Год назад

    Makes me wonder how a 132 lb anvil can be sold for under $300? A guy could buy 2 of these and still be money ahead for the cost of an anvil made in the U.S. or Europe.

    • @danbance5799
      @danbance5799 Год назад

      They are no where near the quality of a Peddinghaus or Perun or other top end anvil. It's a cheap cast steel with a machined and induction hardened face. It's not a great anvil, but for the beginner blacksmith, they're more than adequate. Unless you're a full time blacksmith, I can't see a justification for a more expensive anvil. I'm planning to buy one once I finish rebuilding my forge. I have up to this point been forging on a homemade anvil that I welded together from blocks of steel scrap.

  • @c0nnys1
    @c0nnys1 Год назад

    Dude you picked that anvil up like its nothing still buff af 👍

  • @Dannysoutherner
    @Dannysoutherner Год назад

    Not bad for Chinesium! We may not like how China runs their country but hey, they watched the ratings for Forged In Fire, saw emails to New China Tool and Die, people wanted a good value anvil to start out with. I love the 1941 Fisher 100 I have, paid 150 for it but I carry my rr track for mobile use, much lighter. In my work and anvil often comes in handy.

  • @melgross
    @melgross Год назад

    You see this under a bunch of name from lots of vendors. But the are two versions that are very similar, so be careful.

    • @edwardgiovannelli5191
      @edwardgiovannelli5191 Год назад

      The blue ones are supposedly 50 rockwell, while the black ones are 55.
      I got a black one a couple months ago, 130 lbs for 275 delivered and the face is indeed 52 to 56, which I'm pretty happy about.

    • @melgross
      @melgross Год назад

      @@edwardgiovannelli5191 yeah, that’s what I’ve been seeing on eBay. The same price oddly. I’ve been thinking about ordering the black one.

  • @paradoxworkshop4659
    @paradoxworkshop4659 Год назад

    I still can't get over people dry smacking the anvil between hammer strokes on the work piece.
    Just...why?
    Wasted stroke.
    Wasted effort.
    Wasted blow.
    I do like the sound of that anvil. Kinda dead, so you keep your hearing, unlike my Czech made anvil from 20 years ago which has finally bedded in, and no longer sounds like a demonic bell...
    It sounds like my Fisher, which is nice and quiet.
    A ringing anvil is more movie prop... Kinda like dry smacking...

  • @firstnamelastname-uz2ng
    @firstnamelastname-uz2ng 4 месяца назад

    budget :)

  • @donaldappelhof2059
    @donaldappelhof2059 Год назад

    So it has some bondo. So what. What does it matter? Why do all videos bring it up? It works or it doesn’t.

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred Год назад

    It's not a classic London pattern but it's an anvil. Most of what you're going to do is on the face anyways.

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z Год назад

      It is a classic italian style anvil.
      What's "classic" really depends on the place. A classic japanese anvil is literally a rectangular block of steel.

  • @beammeupscotty1955
    @beammeupscotty1955 Год назад

    Not much of an instructor if you let a student swing a hammer like that.

  • @quebirt
    @quebirt Год назад

    The expense that put me off is actually the fuel cost. What I read is that the average 2-burner forge that a beginner knife maker will likely use will get about 7 hours of burn time from a typical gas grill size tank. That means that, where I live, a day forging will cost around $50US in fuel. Coak/Coal is cheaper, but there you have to store it, and with more waste, since you can't just turn it off, it's likely to approach even in cost over the long run.
    I feel like most of the costs can be shuffled around at the expense of doing smaller blades or working just a little harder/longer. For example, you can forge small blades on a piece of rail mounted to a nice sturdy surface. Not so for fuel. I guess if you're lucky enough to have limitless access to timber and build a coke oven...

  • @radradR0bot
    @radradR0bot Год назад +1

    This is the type of product you get and use until you learn why you need something better through experience

  • @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd
    @bashpr0mpt-rc5dd Год назад +1

    Acciaio means steel in Italian, yet the Chinese anvil is cast iron rubbish. A lot of really sketchy blacksmiths on here were claiming it was gods gift to amateurs, when in reality any old piece of junk is better. There's this one guy, a weird Christian dude, he'd always sell these, flog 'em hard. He did a rockwell hardness test on it but he only owns a cheap Chinese set with 4 testers and none of which go up to any range that you'd need, I think they max out at 45, and at 35 every single anvil he was trying to flog would get marked.

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    • @Shin_Lona
      @Shin_Lona Год назад

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  • @ReiMonCoH
    @ReiMonCoH Год назад +2

    It’s either an Anvil… or a thing that Looks like an anvil.
    This seems like it’s an Anvil

  • @comancherocha7013
    @comancherocha7013 Год назад

    I got mine from princess auto ( canada ) few years ago and it was perfect , they also come in black colour

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  • @4rnorthwest
    @4rnorthwest 6 месяцев назад

    Cracks me up when people buy an inexpensive tool and do a review on it performing “tasks” upon it the likes of which they would NEVER do to their decent tools!!! So, how should you test a tool then? By doing the exact same shit with it you’d do with a more expensive tool!🙄 as for anvils, people really need to get over the hard-on for the quintessential Wile e coyote acme anvil shape! I run a steel yard for a living. Cant tell you how many people ask me if I got any “old anvils lying around to sell” 😂. I don’t laugh in their faces because they clearly don’t know any better. This is Oregon sir. Anvils are scarce in the west to begin with. Now back East everyone’s sweeping them off the back doorstep every morning!🙄🖕🏽. ANYWAYS!!!! So, I ask: have you ever owned or used an “Anvil” before? 11 out of 10 answer, “no.” To which I respond , then don’t waste your money. Firstly: you wouldn’t know what to do with an anvil anyways! Secondly: for what owners are asking nowadays you’re looking at 7-10 dollars per fucking pound! Which is bullshit. I’m talking to you Blacksmithtools!😂 for that price you’re better off buying NEW and SAVING money!🙄. Thirdly: you’re gonna find out it’s hard work and is nothing like Forged in Fire who can all blow me!😑 Fourthly: IF you do stick with it THEN consider buying a hunk of metal shaped like an anvil! But in the mean time, I’ve metric tons of RR track that’ll work fine. Even better I have just as much mild steel blacks and plates to use as an anvil, 2” and thicker in any dimension you want for .70¢ per pound!!! Keep you work hot and it’ll last through all the abuse an amateur that knows jack shit about how to smith can throw at it till you learn some techniques that WONT destroy your shoulder and elbow like 90% of the contestants on that stupid show!😉 as for the vevor anvils on Amazon and eBay and now Harbor Freights Doyle brand anvil, they’re better than fine and won’t break the bank and will last longer than any time you fantasize lasting at this new interest of yours! an anvil is the least of the money you should spend on this new endeavor. Don’t be a sucker! Good luck.