MACV-SOG Veteran and Distinguished Service Cross Recipient Pat Watkins
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2024
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Great job Mike interviewing SOG Legend Pat Watkins. He and Spider Parks saved our recon team more than once!! Absolute SOG stud and he helped young Green Berets learn tactics about running SOG missions across the fence. SALUTE. Thank you Mike.
If this is actually tilt I just wanna thank you for the sog cast.. I took a bullet to the torso and during my recovery I listened to you and your bad ass friends over and over to keep me sane..
Tilt, they need to make a movie about you and your buddies
@@davidoftheforest3822 - I agree, but hollyweird doesn't care. I'm biased. If we had raped, pillaged, plundered, they'd want it.
@@user-vi4yp5jt3p - It is. Thank you for your note and kind words. More importantly, thank you for stepping up to the plate to serve our country. I hope your rehab is going well. Stay strong.
Thank you Tilt for helping get these men's stories out. For men like me that weren't "there", wherever "that" was, it inspires me to work harder and be grateful. I don't know adversity the way you and they do and I'm properly humbled.
Thank you!
19 missions across the fence, contact on every one. Ultimate badass.
Good RECON does NOT make contact with the enemy...every time they go on patrol. The idea is to infiltrate, observe and leave UNDETECTED.
Yes, we're completely aware and fully understand that fact. Every book I've read about SOG tells how difficult that was behind enemy lines in Viet Nam. Things often went wrong. Way wrong. And to survive unintended contact 19 times when it always went wrong is badass. @@donaldzlotnik505
@@donaldzlotnik505 well i replied 2 days ago but don't see my reply...? whats up yt?
@@donaldzlotnik505they have limited support lmao. While being formed for plausible deniability by the United States government. Also it was the 1960s😂
Yes we're fully aware and understand. However, all the books I've read about SOG tell how difficult that was. Things often go wrong. Way wrong. For things to go way wrong on 19 missions and survive every one is badass. @@donaldzlotnik505
Ghostrider Don here; Mike as "Tilt" says thank you for interviewing SOG Legend Pat Watkins. They are great warriors who's story needs to be told. What Pat left out telling of his night at FOB 4 Da Nang the night of August 22, 23, 1968 is that the Dac Cong sapper attack was the largest combat loss of Special Forces life in history. Seventeen Green Berets lost their lives that night. Many more would have died if not for his heroics that night.
Maybe Mike will bring him back!!
God damn
Copy that!
!q!a a a a!! A A0@TheOleOtter
@hughescrechief836 I actually came across and made good friends with a few MAVSOG guys a few years back playing Arma on PC it was very interesting getting to toss spit with them as a much younger 0321 who put 16 years in from 94-2010. Still run with a few of them from time to time, they are all a no bullshit badass group hands down. The only arguments we have is us younger guys want to hear their stories and they all want to hear all of ours lol. Yeah us youngins are a bunch of sissy's cause some of what we did is still covered by the NSA paper and TS, while most NOT all of their stuff is declassified. But it's a blast grabbing a drink lighting a stoggie and playing some Arma with guys who where really there on the maps we play.
This is my uncle and I'm thankful see him finally get to share on video for all of us to have. TY
Keep the SOG warriors and their stories coming Mike! It's so important to capture the history of these men's experiences while we still can.
These SOG guys are in a class of their own…Salute Brother
Our best Vietnam War movies are still ahead of us.
@@ericgibson2079 due to the political tension around their mission statement and current government policy that is written in stone/law, the studies and observation group Mac-v will never be glorified on film. These stories will never see the light of day. Sad but true.
@@xprettylightsx3781the stories are out , what are you talking about
Too much killing and CIA attached to that? You are right this will just fuel liberal agendas.
@@xprettylightsx3781 there is a bunch of books and podcasts made already though…
I could listen to all of these SOG guys tell stories for days! They are just a different breed . I’m glad they are coming forward and telling their stories while we still have them around.
My dad served 30yrs 1950-80 first special forces group 1958 served in Korea 50-53 Vietnam 1954 on and off until 1973 after the eastertide offensive anyway he served for macv sog on and off from 66-69 he had crazy stories but he was most proud of delta force he trained the teams and served with delta I salute all vets I served 20yrs army airborne ranger 84-04 god bless usa
Please forward a salute to your father! 30 years is a long haul. God bless him.
Story time pretty pls?
@@drewinsur7321 - SOGCast # 043 was posted yesterday. It's the latest SOGCast on Apple/Spotify.
Who's your dad? Cause that's ultra based
Damn I love how sharp his mind still is
This is a REAL HERO. Thank you Sir for your Service.
I'm not even SF...former Cavalry Scout who served in a Divisional Recon Team. I could listen to Pat Watkins all day and night. Thank you Mike for bringing a True Hero on your show🙏🏼. ~Scouts Out!
Me too. He's an amazing man. My son was a Scout attached to 3rd ID '05. Thank you for your service to our great country.
Fellow 19D OIF&OEF here but this man is the real deal
~ Scouts Out ~
@@backwoodssurvivalist1779 - Real deal for sure. Hope all is well in your AO.
@@johnmeyer2932 Well been rougher then usual last few years for me but when it rain it pours. One day at a time one foot in front of the other all we can do. 🫡
Me too. He's a remarkable man.
This guy Pat, has really got his shit together!!! I'm a British and he fascinates me!!! If ever there was a man who deserved the MOH its this dude. He is smarter than a London shit-house Rat, but his superiors were scared of the fella and jealous, otherwise he would already be a recipient of the Honor!!! Bravo Sir, you are a Great Man. Respect.
I have the most esteemed, humbled, grateful honor to know a member of these ELITE MEN. He has been a customer of mine for years, then one day he walked into my business with a ballcap with the MACV-SOG insignia on the front. I recognized it, thanked him. He said," You know of this, as he pointed to his cap. I said yes sir I do. Just to be in this MANS presense & be privileged that he would even briefly speak of his service; I was truly honored. I dont know why he would speak/"let me in," the little he did, but he did. I have no military service, but I am.a "military brat?" I am truly blessed to have a number of SFO, Team members, EOD's...etc as clients. They truly do.walk amongst us, and I AM 1000% grateful they do. WITH COMPLETE.ADMIRATION, RESPECT, & GRATITUDE. THANK YOU. Bless each and everyone of you & your families with safety, protection, peace, healing, abundance, & love.
Thank you, Mike for having this true American on the show. Growing up as a kid in the 80s and 90s, Vietnam vets were my hero as I dreamed about being a soldier.
For A man who has a Medal of Honor to know your going to S.O.G and tell you that your gonna be ok because your good in the bush is like THE HIGHEST COMPLIMENT YOU COULD GET regarding your skill, ya it has a 100% causality rate and it’s takeing casualty’s like it’s going outta style but your gonna be fine you know how to be a soldier…. Damn this man has to be a BAD ASS
Indeed!!
Who has the Medal of Honor AND ends up in SOG? The ONLY person I know who had the Medal of Honor and returned to Vietnam was Captain Drew Dix and he became a company commander in the field with the 101st.
Watch the video and listen . There's your answer.@@donaldzlotnik505
How are you a grown adult and still don’t know the difference between your and you’re?
He was the man
Great interview. My father, CSM Stephen Joseph, was in MAC V SOG, CCC, in 67-68.
Did he get trapped in the corner of Hue City during the Tet Offensive? They singlehandedly kept Hue from being totally taken over.
You know, I don’t know. He never spoke of it. 😢
@@tomjoseph6420 you want info there a web page ran by robert noe will have all his info on it
Thank you Mike for having Pat on. It was a real honor to get to hear his story.
Fantastic interview of a humble hero. I enlisted in 79 and remember how even battle-hardened SF Vietnam vets showed deference and obviously deep respect for the SOG guys. The generation of vets that served as my mentors were these very SF, Ranger, & SOG guys and they will have my unwavering respect and gratitude as long as I can draw a breath. I hope I was able to pass some of that wisdom & knowledge on to the generation of vets that followed me and have served throughout our longest sustained conflict. Thank you, brother!
My father was MACVSOG 68-69 David Gilmer RT Texas CCC. He set up an ambush to capture a prisoner. Super interesting to hear his stories
That’s super neat. Hope you guys are doing well
Did he tell you anymore stories? Tell him we thank him for his service!
My husband was in 5th PSYOPS Special Forces in Vietnam 68 to 69.
Both of my parents served during Vietnam. My father was an aircraft mechanic on the USS Enterprise. I really enjoy listening to these podcasts. Their stories never get old and I find myself listening to the same podcasts over. 👍
Thank you for your service. And welcome home with all honor.
MG thank you for recording this for history. I don’t know if you can understand how much Vietnam affected the nation. I will take a chance to say it was so much more than GWOT. Not to lessen your contribution. But the entire culture of America was changed or broken at home. God Bless all vets.
It is really outstanding to see someone you've read about multiple times(Pat Watkins) in the flesh, speaking from his own perspective. Thanks for making this happen Mike and an even bigger thank you to Mr. Watkins for all the unbelievably entertaining stories!
Don't forget, he is on SOGCast # 023 and 024 on Apple, Spotify and YouTUbe.
@@johnmeyer2932 You sir, are a legend! Who the hell needs marvel when there is MACV-SOG. Between you, John Plaster, and the others, I've learned freely the lessons yall paid for in blood. Thank you sir!
Bad Dudes, Franklin Miller, Roy Benavidez, Bob Howard,Billy Waugh.
how u not gonna bring up msd dog
@@GATOR_MCLUSKYcause he’s doesn’t know bout him smh rip Jerry MadDag Shriver
I’m so glad we get to hear from men like this. It’s fuckin amazing and gives real perspective to what war is like to people that haven’t experienced anything of the sort
Glad I caught this on Mike, great conversation and you can tell he is a strong tough man just by the sound of grit in his voice. True foundational figure of America. Thank you Mr. Pat Watkins.
This guy is a great storyteller! I could listen to these guys all day long. Great interview, Mike!
Thanks for doing this interview Mike. These guys are a national treasure that is sadly going away. We need to make sure their stories and experiences are recorded.
It’s guys like Pat and JSM that make me so god damn proud to be an American, everytime I hear one of their interviews I always reflect and think what I can do in my own life to better myself for my family and country because there’s not a single thing in my life that I will ever go through that amounts to one day of stress across the fence. These men are just cut from a different cloth god bless all of them and god bless ya Mike for documenting these warriors stories for generations to come. We owe it to them to listen when they speak. Cheers from NorCal Mike and crew!
Great interview Mike. When I was in the Marines all my leadership were Vietnam veterans. My time in the Army all the officers were getting bronze stars as a candy award.
Wow.
Legend. Guys like Pat Watkins set the bar high for all who dare follow, and those who dared confront him. 💪🏻🇺🇲💪🏻
Two hero's sharing stories like this is invaluable.
This man and you both are more badass than I ever dreamed of being and twice as humble. It was a pleasure to watch this interview!
The lessons learned by the guys before us are the reason we are advanced forward. Thanks for the reminder of why this country is free, because folks like you two have bled to keep it that way.
The best of SOG and I’m amazed at all SOG’s their sacrifices they made for our country. Thanks for sharing Pat’s missions.
Mr. Watkins, I truly hope you see this comment. May God bless yourself and your family. May God bless you for your service and sacrifice to my beautiful country. There are many of us that look up to men like you as HEROES. Thank you for who you are.
An amazing interview. I was attached to the 82 at Bragg at the end of the war and there were some amazing SF guys as part of the group there.
I could listen to Pat forever. I love these interviews.
Thank you Brave Heroes
Mike: Thanks for interviewing Mr. Watkins. I used to follow the Vietnam war as a near draft age teenager. I had a National Geographic Map of North/ South Vietnam and Laos and Cambodia, figuring I' d wind up there which never happened. Those vietnamese towns and villages he mentioned came back to me. Pat Watkins is a national treasure.
Finally: to whom shall we write, or is there a petition available to urge our Representatives to upgrade Mr. Watkins awards to the Medal of Honor?
This. We need to hear more from these legends.
Legend man needs to write a book
THIS WAS A GREAT,GREAT,GREAT SHOW.HE IS A HARD CORE WARRIOR.
What a guy I love listening to these old guys stories thanks Mike for taking the time out to talk about it I really appreciate it.good luck to you and your family 😊
Absolutely amazing interview guys. Thanks you so much for your service. God Bless American
Awesome interview. Glad their stories are coming to light finally.
Love these SOG stories. Thanks you Jocko, Tilt, Mike and everyone that gets these stories out.
Thank you both. Absolutely amazing interview
Thank you Pat for your brave service of excellence and Mike for the same! Well done all around!
Guys like Watkins are really humble
I love hearing these stories SO much. MAC V SOG was a BAD ASS unit! They don’t make men like this anymore!
Mike what a great interview this Vet is so sharp and has the best stories 👍👍
This was a great show! I love listening to these great men who served our country.
Amazing interview 👏 well done Mike!
A complex historical Narrative. A tremendous accomplished soldier, one of so many. Thank you for releasing this.
Man mr watkins you are the man your experience is so captivating thank you Mike for doing your due diligence as pertains to this man and his stories
Love the sog interviews keep up the great work Mike the sog guys are so awesome the to hear their interviews and it’s sad. They weren’t recognized for what they did. 🇺🇸
Heck yeah. Another great show. Keep up the good work brother.
God bless you and yours and God bless America 🇺🇸.
These new generations will never meet up to the to the standards of these Heroes. I have nothing but 💯 + respect for ALL these Military Men that sacrificed everything to protect America and all Americans. God Bless All You Guys and thank you for Everything you done and Sacrificed.
My husband was a green beret, he served in Vietnam with 5th special forces 1968 during tet offensive.
Men like pat watkin come once every 200-300 hundred years if that. What a great interview. God bless
Love hearing Vietnam vets cussing up a storm.
Reminds me of my passed grandpa, who was a Korean War artillery first sergeant who would cuss up a hurricane.
Pretty sure he taught me how to cuss someone before I knew my own name.
As a son of a SoG BadA$$. I am humbled by the boys who became men. These Men did so much. And for my father who’s not been able to tell his story do to the velocity of his code of Honor to never speak of the things he went through. He will carry it to the grave. #sonofaSoG
Same. Son of a
Phoenix Team Operative/ Soldier here. Will never know the / his story.
Great interview/discussion. Around 27:00 Pat mentions Hotel 9. These days I don't hear many mention that target area. BUT back then Hotel 9 was the hardest. All previous attempts to get in, had failed, when I heard of it. I don't recall perfectly, but I believe Hotel 9 was to be attempted by a solo HALO drop. Someone in FOB2 pointed out one guy, and said that he was training for that HALO mission. I never heard if it went off.
At 30:30 he mentions "ticket punched." Back then SF was not one of the check boxes for career advancement. To the old school Army, SF were the black sheep. Lessons from the SF effectiveness during the Vietnam war, later changed that view. For me, I was saddened when there became a Special Forces tab. i felt SF had become a training tab, not the unit. Like old school Rangers, became a course of instruction tab. Not the unit. Though all that changed back to units.
At 57:47 Pat has some photos of CCN after the attack, Aug 23, 68. Have any of these been posted? Like on the couple private(or public) SOG Facebook sites.
At 1:06:46 Augusst 68, I was in the transient barracks, also under my mattress, at first. (When I got back there a few days later I noticed bullet and frag holes in all the walls, from one end to the other. The other transients and I were all unarmed, ungeared and on the floor.) Standing was not healthy.
These interviews are so important to history!
Thanks mike for always having great guests.best wishes always
Great video.Funny just yesterday I was telling the DR women who was cutting my hair about the 82 an airborne fighting in DR.
Lost my best friend SSgt Robert Preiss mia 28 yes killed in Loss 2 and tour month to go was 5th SF Macsog.
My father was infantry in Vietnam 68\69 I wish this generation of boys could meet these real men and learn from them
This is as real as it gets. It's like sitting in a room with my Dad with his buddies from the Air Cav from Vietnam. No filter and a lot of swearing about the high-ranking officers hiding in the rear while they were out in the field in combat.
Just ran across your channel, 2nd view, loved em both. Hit subscribed.
Love hearing these guys from Viet Nam.
Had an uncle that was there 68 - 69 in LRRP's.
Lost a second cousin there that was a tunnel rat. Had several other relatives there. Lost a friend that grew up across the street .
So these stories are very special.
Just like the ones that are out from the WW II
vets. Get these stories before they are gone.
Thank ya'll so much for what you're doing and for your service.
Great interview! Love that these guys stories are being documented through the written word and through these podcasts!
Great job. Thank you both for your service!!
Thanks both of you for your service
Thank You. There are no words.
Thank you and all who serve for your service
Welcome home and thank you for your service, brother
Thank you both for your service ,,, that man is a hero!!
Thanks for sharing your podcasts and keep them coming.
What an incredible American. Thanks for your service and for sharing your experiences with us.
What a damn straight up and down man. Much respect Sir.
OMG! You know who you should bring on to your Podcast, MrBallen! He was a Navy Seal! Love the Pod!
Thank you for your service sir
Thanks for this coverage Mike. We need to continue to document these warriors of the Vietnam Era.
Great interview. Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge & experiences. Thank you for your service!!!!
You all have my thanks and respect
Thank you for this interview. It really opens your eyes to what these guys went through. He is a true hero.
It was all by the south
I know it was hell and regular army hate us but I made it home thanks bro.
This is awesome, Pat's experience and stories are next level
Great interview Mike! I was in the 10th in 76 to 83. Men like him were mentors for me, thank you both for your service.
Thanks for this interview, amazing story
I love listening to the SOG guys!! Much respect!!
Could listen to Pat all day every day. True Hero and Legend. Massive respect.🙏
27 months at SOG?..27?..that length of time in country..in crude layman's terms qualifies Mr. Harkness as a PHd, a Professor Emeritus and President of the Vietnam-SOG War College with several Masters Degrees tossed in! Holy Crap!.. he is a 'Legatus Legionis' an ancient Roman warrior leader manifested through time travel as a MACV-SOG NCO in Vietnam...'Talis Est Comodum Miles Barbati'!..so acts the brave soldier..
Can't argue with you Ms. Millicent....
Thank you for your service Mr. Watkins. We salute you. Great vid Mike. Cheers from Australia.
Thank you both
What Mr. Watkins said about the modern SF vs the Vietnam era is, to me, a further testament to them and what they achieved during that period. Yes, they were Jerry rigging everything and improvising their way through so much, but they did so because they HAD TO. They were literally writing the book on how to do all this stuff. We all have their experiences to learn from. Those guys had nobody to teach them how to do what hadn't been done before, and in most cases had little support or budget, if any, to do it with. Nowadays SOCOM has all the best gear and priority on support, but back then they were largely on their own or with some indig element with old and worn equipment handed down to them. Every SOG man I've heard interviewed said many of the same things including they ALWAYS made contact and nobody got out of that unit without being wounded at least once. 100% casualty rate it is said. So much of what our modern techniques and tactics today stem from what these guys invented on the job in Laos or Cambodia or even North Vietnam.
Thank you Pat Watkins and all the men of MAC-V SOG and USA SF.
Such a great interview!!!!
This is your best podcast that I’ve heard.
Thank you
Great interview Mike! 🙏
This was great! SOG is legendary. Thanks Mike.