In reality baryonyx was in water a lot of the time, and suchomimus was on land most of the time. This was recently discovered because of bone density. I think they should reflect this in their play style, so this is actually perfect.
What study published these findings? I would like to read it. Makes me curious if the Spino had a more land based lifestyle similar to the Sucho because it has a lot of the same traits like the nostrils higher on the nose etc
Here is my idea - Baryonyx : Best swimmer of the 3, can dive and revolves its gameplay around rapid traveling in water. - Suchomimus: Most adapted on land, can swim faster than land based apex and maybe able to hold its breath longer but that’s it. Gameplay mostly revolves living on land close to water edge where it use mostly to hunt fish and escape land predators it can’t fight. - Spinosaurus: Slowest on both land and water. It technically can’t swim and will sink, allow it to walk along the bottom instead. It can still ambush stuff and bully other carnivore in the water realm off the carcass. Overall gameplay revolves mostly in water.
@@Oskrrr Just want to make it different from Deinosuchus. Otherwise it’s just an overall better Deino if it can do anything the croc can plus being better on land.
I think Sucho SHOULD be a brawler due to it being big While it can ambush from the water or just generally forested areas I think just destroying things like Allo could work
i always thought of sucho as a jaguar type creature going across water quickly to creep up on any semi aquatics chilling on the river banks not really a semi aquatic hell not even using water to hunt but just going across it to get closer to its target
I think Spino, Bary, and Sucho shouldn’t have each other as diets instead having somewhat similar diets to drive competition over the water. All 3 should share more aquatic foods like elite fish as to not force, but instead encourage conflict to fill a specific diet. As semi aquatics, the 3 all could create an interesting pyramid over the water with cooperation against other aquatic predators such as Dienos, but also rivalries against each other for food.
I want all them to be water reliant in some way. Idc if spino is an apex. It’s a fish eat and river dweller. I love that about it. I want to relax in swamps nearly uncontested. I’ve eagerly waited to go play some spino realism XD
I mean you still could just chill in water but it shouldnt need to rely on it cause most players really just wanna go ham and kill stuff as a big carnivore so only staying in water would make people sad and make the spino fanboys mad and no one wants that. Yea and the spino doesnt look like a swimmer but instead looks like a jp3 one
I see it in this way: Baryonyx is the perfect inbetween of aquatic and land gameplay due to it having just as dense bones as spino which means both were really good at swimming. Suchomimus should be the "Bear" of TI, it prefers land the most either scavenging, ambushing or fishing for food and only really taking to the water to escape or to get an easy meal. Spinosaurus should be the water reliant spinosaurid, only staying in water and rarely leaving the water just like Deinosuchus giving these 2 apexes a clear competition for food.
@animalfans2207 that doesn't matter as spinos would still be able to kill juvis and smaller dinos while also being mainly fish eaters so thier disputes would most be for dominace and the loser being eaten after since spino still ate non aquatics even if not preferred, spino also could still escape if larger dinos were around and just fight on land where it the clear advantage
@@Monkey90721 yeah I understand that why I mentioned for the most part they would just run against adults or pick a more favorable match up by going to land and against juvis they should be able to just control the Dino population Spino and Dienocheirus along with other semi aquatics are gonna really control the Dino population but that would just make it more fun and cannibalism might go down as there would be more threats to thier species
I imagine Suho will keep that more pelican aspect. It would be able to scoop up schools of fish . Maybe even catch smaller dinos like in hipsi or babys in their pouch. I think it they would be located by beaches and tide pools ,to have less competition with spino and bary.
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx pelicans and sea birds can even drink saltwater, they have a natural filter for the salt, so maybe it could even drink it. They'd liven up beaches so much. The map(s) having estuaries, places where rivers meet the sea, would help to bring things together as well.
I wanted the exact opposite of this at first, but because spino is a JP3 spino, my opinion changed. I agree with all your bary points. Pick it's battles well, flee into the water, use it to hunt, etc. I want sucho to be the terrestrial one. Since it's the one with the most terrestrial bone density, it should be the most land based, but I also want sucho to the the best wader. What I mean by this, is that sucho's wade speed should be the fastest in the game, it should have a mechanic where it puts its snout in the water, and is able to detect any movement in the water. This doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to dive and whatnot, it definitely should. Suchomimus would be ~4200kg, so deino can't lunge it either. This size means that it stomps on all mid tiers, from Maia to Alberto to Allo, but other pseudos like theri are hard fights, and any apex makes it run for the water, to either wade or swim away. This means sucho would live near rivers and other mid-depth bodies of water, viable for escape and fishing. It's speed would be mediocre and stamina good. I also want it to be able to pin small things to the ground, it would be a nice mechanic for it.
Deino is 8 tons, it is very able to lunge 4 tons. I think they need another lunge mechanic for deino, things that are too heavy to be carried should be bitten and dragged, like crocs do with zebras.
This is a pretty good take, honestly. There’s such big size difference between the two, that it is easily enough for niches to barely overlap. Sucho is dang near the size of an acro, and bary is around the same size as carno (length wise). I think you hit the nail on the head with this. Great video!
I kind of see things inverse from your viewpoint. I think Spino should be the most aquatic. The apex of the water, giving the crocs something to fear and avoid. The Sucho should be like a stork that can swim and dive, yes, but when faced with crocs and spinos would do better to get OUT of the water in order to escape them and move faster on land than both of them. Lastly, I think Baryonyx should behave more kind of like an otter. Swifter and more agile in the water than Sucho and Spino, but also faster on land for the same reasons. Other animals that occupy the same relationship between land and water would be Beipei and Austro. Both are swift and agile on land and in water, enough to escape larger predators like Sucho and Spino and even baryonyx. But with obvious weaknesses and strengths in and out of the water. If you’re a bary, you’ll likely find catching beipei easier on land. You’ll likely find catching Austro easier when Austro is swimming with its head above water and isn’t expecting you to come up from below. But otherwise both species will have greater agility and speed, so your tactics would need to account for that.
I think low tier semi-aquatic predators must have some kind of counter for deinosuchus grab attack, so they have atleast a chance to survive an encounter.
Loved the video ideas and the overall concept you have on bary and sucho, not everything similar is somehow redundant which is a great take. This would be an absolutely awesome video series for you to do! Keep up the W's Orni!
Knowing the isle, a game that despite promising very unique abilities and playstyles for dinosaurs, the isle will more or less probably make bary and sucho the same playstyles. it's like how they make most small dinosaurs either tree climbers or burrowers.
About the suchomimus being a Semi-Aquatic, it is actually a "Pseudo-Aquatic" it couldn't sink irl and would basically be buoyant, relying mostly on animals near it's size or smaller, even fish would serve as a food source for Suchomimus
They all 3 should have some counter attacks for deinosuchus. Baryonyx and Sucho should kind of block the deino ambush to escape. The Spino should be able to drag Deinosuchus out of the water and turn them on to the back (costing them almost there whole stamina) make the Spino the Tankiest Dino with the most HP and best Bleed Resistance but super slow on land and while sprinting on land loosing stamina very quickly. So the Spino is Not to Overpowered on land but the strongest one in the water. He definitely should be able to kill deinos and regulate the whole Deino population
I haven't really played the isle before so im not sure how the diet system works, but if I had to give my thoughts I'd say to make it so that all the spinosaurids prey on different types of fish. Bary goes after the faster prey like salmon and bass, suco goes after the bottom feeders like catfish, and spino can go after much larger fish like giant coelecanth or such ancient species
If I were the devs I’d make the three spinosaurids this way: bary being a land ambusher which feeds on small swamp creatures like fish, small dinosaurs and juvenile deino. It has some sort of attack to stun things In the water and it’s fast and agile meaning it doesn’t need to swim much to escape, just use rivers as protection. Sucho would be a mid tier swamp dinosaur depending more on fish and juvenile creatures to feed. Suchomimus’ size makes it a hard dinosaur to kill but it behaves as a defensive carnivore in comparison to inland pursuit predators like allo or Alberto because it wouldn’t need to hunt big prey to feed, it’s more of a heron-like one shot kill for small and mid dinosaurs where if it gets an ambush on you you’re dead but it can’t deal damage fast enough on a big herbivore to take it down before it leaves. Then there’s Spinosaurus which is interesting since you don’t want to make it a boring giant fish eater. Spino in my opinion shouldn’t be an “apex” It should be an aquatic population controller meaning it’s the bane of deinosuchus, bary and suchomimus. As a spino it would be difficult to grow because I’d make the babies super clumsy and probably all dinosaurs could kill them easily unless nested, as an adolescent/juvenile I’d make them fast in land so they act as a hunter and when they reach adulthood they become slow but tanky and their niche is now as a river patroller. Spino would go around rivers trying to ambush deinosuchus and eating the other spinosaurids since the water scape route would be useless against Spino. For all of them I’d make the bite attack not powerful but very fast and the claw attack very powerful but slow.
Mostly seems good but idk about spino hunting deinosuchus. Deinosuchus has a much better bite, so I think it should have the advantage at least in water.
@@crabhater9373 yeah realistically a giant crocodile wins against any dinosaur but some big sauropods, since there’s no big fish or big acuatics for spino to catch and it wouldn’t even be able to fight giga or rex in terms of mobilitiy and anatomy for hunting the only thing it can exploit is their good water associated lifestyle.. If Spino is made into a JP3 running around killing why would you choose spino over rex or giga? for the looks exclusively. It doesn’t have any apparent adaptations to sprinting faster, more stamina, more bite force, more hp, more bleed damage or any other essential traits for a big herbivore predator. The only good thing it has is their claws which are much better suited to self defense and ambush than to big game hunting. If they want to make it more powerful than Rex or Giga in some place they need to make it do something with water or related to water which means it can’t take the ambush water predator already associated to deino, but it can’t take the fishing niche associated to bary or sucho so the only thing that is left is for it to hunt big water based animals which are deino and the other two spinosaurids. I can’t see another better option for it right now without making the gameplay a bit boring and I mean I love spinosaurus, never intended to underpower it compared to giga and rex but come on the sole features that make spino stand out (snout-sail-tail) are the ones that make it undoubtedly weaker as a land predator as the other apexes
@@sergioibarra3461 They should just make rivers bigger and make big aquatic species (AI or playable) for spino to hunt. Big duck hunting big croc would result in big duck six feet under.
I feel like spino is the perfect thing to keep deino pops under control. Not because they can kill an adult deino, but because an adult deino can kill an adult spino. Mega incentivizes spinos to kill young deinos, which they totally could because deino's loose the advantage they get from water when the thing killing them also has the advantage in water.
I’d like if sucho could scoop up scooling fish and swallow them as well as elite fish as shown in the concept art. I actually think that deino should be on sucho’s diet as i can see it snatching juvies and battling subs.
I could see Baryonixes swimmimg across rivers ocasionally, being a more agile scout playstile, ambushimg animals of similar size in water in order to have an upper hand on them. On the other hand I could see Suchos sitting in shallow water like hippos, with their heads peaking out of the water with possible moss latched onto them. Always used to see them do that in Legacy
I honestly could see sucho not being able to drive, living on the shores and near shallow water bodies to wade but being a competent enough swimmer to use deeper water for both escape and as a sort of highway for traveling between different feeding sights.
I do like you're point of view on this Bary rely more on water and little on land Sucho be in between can rely on both 50/50 Spino will rely more on land rather than water but can still use the water
ik im 7 months late and idk if anyones talked about it yet but that concept art piece with deino and bary could be saying that bary has an automated denial to deino ambushes. Like maybe if a deino lunges at a bary on land the bary just auto forces its mouth shut and denys the grab
Regarding sucho's gullet, I wonder if that will enable it to carry food and still be able to attack or maybe it will let sucho carry more than 1 piece of food. I don't think that sucho and bary should be on each other's diet especially if they end up like what you said. assuming that deino, sucho, and bary will wall have elite fish on their diets, they will all competing against each other for food and I dont think it would be nessicary to force them to activly prey on eachother since they'll be generally in the same areas anyway. I wouldnt mind if deino, sucho, bary, and spino were able to cannibalize each other, but I don't think it should be rewarded by getting a nutrient from it due to the increased competition.
Considering how W I D E the new spin is compared to legacy, I think it should do the hippo walking. But be able to swim for short distances, if it’s shape was more realistic then of course it should be very aquatic
tbh I think bary sucho and spino all 3 more land hunters but their skeletons clearly show they where semi-aquatic being able to swim bary should rely mostly on the water sucho an in-between hunter and spino like any other apex predator but it has the ability to chose to go more in to water hunting deinonychus or hunting things like stegos, I do believe tho bary and sucho might be able to co exist / even benefit from each other since they are simular even for carnivores.
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx Actually true, at least bipedally. Its femurs literally would break from having to support its weight on their own, meaning on land this thing was definitely a quadruped and thus slow and awkward. They just shouldn't bother with having Spinosaurus in games at this point as the outdated depictions get worse by the day but what should I expect from a game that gladly has jurassic park ripoff Utah.
@@thenerdbeast7375 i think the isle is too far gone in that regard,evrima spino is a monster compard to irl spino. spino is an interesting creature with how much it changes.
@@thenerdbeast7375 Nizar Ibrahim's 2014 quadruped hypothesis is very dubious at best in the overall current scientific consensus, recent discoveries have indeed found spinos centre of mass was placed above its hips and its legs were strong enough to hold it and allow it to walk freely (likely awkwardly still due to their smaller proportions, I guess similar to a duck) knuckle walking is also inaccurate when you consider that the forelimbs/knuckles wouldn't be capable to supporting that weight
i agree sucho needs to be a nice balance of both while bary uses water more sucho should def be able to dive and everything just make it a bit slower in water i think sucho should be on bary and bary should be on spinos diet
Legacy sucho needs water to survive or u would instantly be attacked or prayed on by all apexes since sucho is so slow and bary being extremly fast and agile so it could easily run away from anything and u rarely see them actually using water but sucho is always hiding in the water
I agree that the bigger spinosaurs still use the water, but are less reliant on it for food and safety. However, I also personally think the 3 spinosaurs would/should be played like bears. Baryonyx would/should be like a Black Bear, where it avoids most things its size or bigger and has a more "aquatic/river bank" diet than the other three. Suchomimus would/should be like a Brown/Grizzly Bear, where it is also a generalist, but it can throw its weight around more, and its diet can also be more generalist the most varied of the three spionsaurs. And Spinosaurus himself would/should be like a Polar Bear, where it is very much a specialist, and due to its size, can afford to go after more land creatures than the other two can. Also, Spinosaurus should be the ONLY spinosaur that has the power and skill to tackle the open ocean and the ocean/coastal waters biomes, especially once things like mosasaurs, plesiosaurs, and other marine reptiles are (hopefully) added.
Personally about the spinosaurids having each other on their diets, i think that the bary should have sucho and spino, and sucho should have spino, but spino have neither. The reason is so that the smaller spinosaurids are influenced to hunt younger specimens of their larger brothers, which would make for good control of the spino population especially, and additionally means that the adult bary/sucho/spino can be relatively chill near each other because its very unlikely that a bary could hunt a adult sucho/spino or a sucho could hunt a adult spino and there is no incentive for the larger spinosaurid species to hunt the smaller.
I kinda hope they would add the rotten fruit cider mechanic and if the herbivores ate them they would get immobilized by getting drunk. I know it doesn’t have anything to do with this video but hey it’s just a thought
I class baryonyx as a “wader” because although it uses water as an escape route and to hunt large prey, it hunts fish by wading in shallow water and grabbing them or snapping them up. Suchomimus is sort of the same in this case, but it cannot dive and almost exclusively prefers wading/bullying preds off corpses. Nevertheless, this video is amazing and I would love seeing more topics like this.
Baryonyx and other Spinosaurid has high bone density, making them perfect swimmer, Suchomimus on the other hand, its bone density is low, making Suchomimus the worse swimmer compare to other Spinosaurid
How To Differentiate Baryonyx And Suchomimus In Evrima They are entirely different size classes and will have entirely different interactions with the local environment due to their entirely different strengths and sizes. Baryonyx can live in shallower water, is much smaller so it would have an easier time catching smaller prey, and would be faster. Sucho is larger and tankier so could take on larger targets and have less predators than Baryonyx, but if it wants to submerge it needs deeper water. There's nothing you *need* to do to make them different, because the fact that they're entirely different size classes already causes a significant difference in what they can or can't do
Make Sucho swim more slowly than Bary in the water, and restrict its oxygen. Instead of swimming underwater and looking for fish, Sucho will be sitting atop the surface, readying to do a short dive if it sees one. This makes it more unique, while also granting it the survival benefits of the water. I also believe that Spino should be slightly faster than Sucho in the water, but slower on land. It'll add foolish Sucho's to the Spino's diet. Tell me your thoughts.
Maybe Baryonyx's claw attack on Deino is a counter, Deino tries to grab u, u press the button in time and you counter and stun the Deino long enough to run away.
i think its kinda right how sucho shouldnt be able to "swim" because they were mostly in shallow waters and sucho spent most time on ground because of his spine (if im right because of his spine) he cant dive and most likely was a slow swimmer but ofc still faster than for example a cera
Tbh your take on their gameplay sounds perfect, don’t really have any complaints. Don’t know why people would have a gripe with succo and bary in game at the same time because they do two different things in the isle’s ecosystem.
Though I agree the amount of playables at the end will be too much for a 100 player base for a balanced ecosystem, unless they get they ai working well, so that there is always a certain number of a species on the server
Honestly both should be as you said where one is more used for water and swimming like the Deino while the other is a brawler on land but slow in water but both should have close to the same Diet like fish or seaturtles or even big fish but the bigger boy should also have the option to eat some dino's or creatures on land and not be all fish base
Another dino game I play has a perfect balance for sucho and bary (at least imo), with bary being a semi-aquatic and sucho a pseudo semi! bary can sprint in water, dive and hold its breath for a decent amount of time- whereas sucho can sprint in the water, cant dive but be idle in water n regen stam from doing so then looses stam from movement (unlike terrestrials who are slow in water, cant sprint and loose stam swimming or idle)
Honestly the only reason why I rather they discard baryonyx is so that they can replace it with irritator. Bary is very small compared to sucho, irritator is small too compared to sucho but still slightly bigger than bary and yet very similar to the latter, so it would be a harmless replacement in terms of balance. Actually the most important thing is that research has discovered how irritator can split its mouth, a bit like the hypo types in legacy, and I find it incredibly cool. Can you imagine? A normal playable that can do that? Without feeling made up like with the hypos? It has the potential of being the most unique mechanic in the entire game. What I mean is: bary and irritator can be viewed as "the same dinosaur" when it comes to balance, so having both in the game would be useless. Despite them being very similar combat-wise, irritator possesses a game mechanic that might actually bring more fun to the game than baryonyx, making it a better playable. You talked about sucho possibly feeding like pelicans, but I believe that is more fit for irritator, which is why it would be cooler to have that than bary.
here's my hot take. i don't think sucho should be on bary's diet and vice versa because neither of them have the tools to effectively hunt each other. sucho won't be able to catch a bary and bary will likely get floored if it tries to attack a sucho
While I do like the idea of sucho being more stamina based and lower speed, it seems like hunting just isn't what the devs want for it. I see Bary being the most viable out of the pair (although it depends purely on its matchup with deino). "The Suchomimus finds itself in a unique spot in the ecosystem, able to traverse the land and thrive in the shallows. Large and powerful enough to deter most predators, whilst lacking the speed and stamina necessary to hunt most land based creatures. Instead relying primarily on a diet of fish" It seems that this creature will mainly be in shallow waters, fishing. While also probably having the ability to just outright body a solo carnivore off kills up to alberto size. Suchos biggest weakness is its lack of speed (and potentially stamina) which means that it will most likely be threatened by raptor packs significantly, and packs of mid tier carnivores such as allo. So maybe being on land might not be the best strategy for a solo sucho. I doubt suchos will be packing up much. At most a pair. Although it's fishing gameplay probably means that its largely solitary anyway. Anyways, another interesting video, Orni!
I think it will be opposite, I think baryonyx will be seen on land almost as often if not more often that spino. I say this because baryonyx will be able to run from predators on land much better than sucho will be able too. I believe bary will be able to take on many mid tiers especially carno due to how weak it is to bleed. And if one bary can’t kill a cerato two barys should make it an even fight. Bary will also have a bigger pack size than sucho making it even more viable to take down bigger prey, bary just looks more land built. Sucho will be on land hunting don’t get me wrong but it will definitely not strain as far away from the water as bary will.
Bary has less bone density then such, so Sucho will probably be more terrestrial- its also a strong mid-tier that can easily send a lot of non-apex carnivores running
Sucho shouldn’t be able dive but be able to just sink when it wants kinda like hippos can or it gradually goes to the bottom as it “swims” and to lunge out of the water by using its strong legs to push its self out of the water at great speed to either escape from dieno or to catch a small prey while it drinks
Can’t wait for these dinos to be added but Baryonyx is around 9 to 11 meters long exactly the same as a sucho so I don’t know why the bary is smaller but I really like the designs
@@shaxo5364 WHAT THE - how would a suchomimus reach 11.5 meters TALL? this means probally more than 30 METERS LONG! 11.5 meters is the length of suchomimus, and a tyrannosaurus is not 12 meters tall too
This is damn near perfect for the bary and sucho and this is realistically how I'd want them to play as well since it's also paleo accurate ,but out of all the spinosauridae spinosours should be the one that most water reliant as that how the existed as mainly fish eaters this would not put then in contention for food with larger apexes just like it did irl with it and carcha the spinos diet should be completely consistent of fish as spinosours irl preferred fish also so it doesn't incentive them hunting non aquatics but at the same time although not in its preferred diet spinosours did scavenge non aquatic dinasours .irritator a member of the spinosauridae did do this as it's tooth was food in a cretaceous in 2004 so it's safe to assume that the related spino although largely a meat eater would not be above hunting or scavenging non aquatic. Also hopefully the fox the tail on the current spino concept cause that thing looks horrible the concept also grossly miss characterizes the giant cross faced theropod
irl spino was the most aquatic, but the isle spino isnt really that much like the real deal. But i actually really like barry and sucho, they are fundamentally different even if they have similarities. The sucho will be the one in the most danger from apexes, even in legacy it was bad purly due to its interactions with giga being so horribly one sided.
i always took barry as the perfect on land and water dino, and sucho is faser on land than spino and middle of the two, and ofc spino being the god of water, and just generally something you don't wanna be around, Buuuut i am okay with barry being a WATER BOI, i just think sucho has that long leg big fat tail and he'll trot more on land than both barry and spino! i am so happy i caught this videdo +1 sub from me and like etc... but i look forward ot more content! THANK YOU!
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx That’s my hope, it wasn’t the case in legacy but it definitely seems that spino will have much different gameplay than before, hope it’s emphasized by its short legs
2:57 considering that even Rex could swim that argument is stupid af. xD Just looking at this ruclips.net/video/7mtaXP2Nar0/видео.html makes that argument pointless. Completely agree with this video, I hope the devs find a way to make Deino more balanced, right now I can't see bary surviving it other then evading on the land where it would be weak to land predators. I think deino should be on a lot of diets just so that juvenile/sub deinos get preyed upon and we dont get a deino mass outbreak. Congrats to 8k views!
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In reality baryonyx was in water a lot of the time, and suchomimus was on land most of the time. This was recently discovered because of bone density. I think they should reflect this in their play style, so this is actually perfect.
Precisely. I feel like before that research had their results revealed people had it the other way around lol.
Suchomimus had a pathetic bite force. Baryonyx had longer leg to body ratio and a more robust jaw. Makes more sense Bary being the land based one.
Took the words right out of my mouth
What study published these findings? I would like to read it.
Makes me curious if the Spino had a more land based lifestyle similar to the Sucho because it has a lot of the same traits like the nostrils higher on the nose etc
@@jacobniemann4756 Spinosaurus had the one of the densest bones If i remember correctly, so it was definitely in the water.
Here is my idea
- Baryonyx : Best swimmer of the 3, can dive and revolves its gameplay around rapid traveling in water.
- Suchomimus: Most adapted on land, can swim faster than land based apex and maybe able to hold its breath longer but that’s it. Gameplay mostly revolves living on land close to water edge where it use mostly to hunt fish and escape land predators it can’t fight.
- Spinosaurus: Slowest on both land and water. It technically can’t swim and will sink, allow it to walk along the bottom instead. It can still ambush stuff and bully other carnivore in the water realm off the carcass. Overall gameplay revolves mostly in water.
Spinosaurus is already planned to be like this.
Spino should be faster as it’s most evolved for swimming but for gameplay bary should be fastest
@@Do27gg i mean just let bary run away on land
cool ideas, just that i find it wierd that spinosaurus will sink in water when irl it could swim and dive underwater like a crocodile
@@Oskrrr Just want to make it different from Deinosuchus. Otherwise it’s just an overall better Deino if it can do anything the croc can plus being better on land.
Actually Orni Suchomimus was said to be the least aquatic while the The Spino is the full on semiaquatic along with Baryonyx.
I think Sucho SHOULD be a brawler due to it being big While it can ambush from the water or just generally forested areas I think just destroying things like Allo could work
“Cheers size”
Cheese size*
Shear size wops
Or however you write the synonym for big
i always thought of sucho as a jaguar type creature going across water quickly to creep up on any semi aquatics chilling on the river banks
not really a semi aquatic hell not even using water to hunt but just going across it to get closer to its target
I think Spino, Bary, and Sucho shouldn’t have each other as diets instead having somewhat similar diets to drive competition over the water. All 3 should share more aquatic foods like elite fish as to not force, but instead encourage conflict to fill a specific diet. As semi aquatics, the 3 all could create an interesting pyramid over the water with cooperation against other aquatic predators such as Dienos, but also rivalries against each other for food.
i like this
I want all them to be water reliant in some way. Idc if spino is an apex. It’s a fish eat and river dweller. I love that about it. I want to relax in swamps nearly uncontested. I’ve eagerly waited to go play some spino realism XD
i agree,they should all need/use water to some extent.
I agree! Same here.
yeah but while i would love to see spino hunt fish unless they added some bigger fish to the game i think it might seem a little ridiculous
@@ghaniKSW2 i was thinking something similar
I mean you still could just chill in water but it shouldnt need to rely on it cause most players really just wanna go ham and kill stuff as a big carnivore so only staying in water would make people sad and make the spino fanboys mad and no one wants that. Yea and the spino doesnt look like a swimmer but instead looks like a jp3 one
I see it in this way: Baryonyx is the perfect inbetween of aquatic and land gameplay due to it having just as dense bones as spino which means both were really good at swimming. Suchomimus should be the "Bear" of TI, it prefers land the most either scavenging, ambushing or fishing for food and only really taking to the water to escape or to get an easy meal. Spinosaurus should be the water reliant spinosaurid, only staying in water and rarely leaving the water just like Deinosuchus giving these 2 apexes a clear competition for food.
a spino like that would be crazy cool
But deinosuchus is way stronger than a spino
@animalfans2207 that doesn't matter as spinos would still be able to kill juvis and smaller dinos while also being mainly fish eaters so thier disputes would most be for dominace and the loser being eaten after since spino still ate non aquatics even if not preferred, spino also could still escape if larger dinos were around and just fight on land where it the clear advantage
@@undary0u I didn’t say it matters for one…two I’m just trying to know how they would squash they beef if they had any
@@Monkey90721 yeah I understand that why I mentioned for the most part they would just run against adults or pick a more favorable match up by going to land and against juvis they should be able to just control the Dino population Spino and Dienocheirus along with other semi aquatics are gonna really control the Dino population but that would just make it more fun and cannibalism might go down as there would be more threats to thier species
I imagine Suho will keep that more pelican aspect. It would be able to scoop up schools of fish . Maybe even catch smaller dinos like in hipsi or babys in their pouch. I think it they would be located by beaches and tide pools ,to have less competition with spino and bary.
id love it if it could
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx pelicans and sea birds can even drink saltwater, they have a natural filter for the salt, so maybe it could even drink it. They'd liven up beaches so much. The map(s) having estuaries, places where rivers meet the sea, would help to bring things together as well.
@@TheFatefulOne oh wow i didnt know that,thats so cool
I can't wait for rex to come out, just imagine when mom/dad rex hears his litle chickens calling for help and you are rushing towards them.
Lol has nothing to do with spinosaurids
I wanted the exact opposite of this at first, but because spino is a JP3 spino, my opinion changed.
I agree with all your bary points. Pick it's battles well, flee into the water, use it to hunt, etc.
I want sucho to be the terrestrial one. Since it's the one with the most terrestrial bone density, it should be the most land based, but I also want sucho to the the best wader. What I mean by this, is that sucho's wade speed should be the fastest in the game, it should have a mechanic where it puts its snout in the water, and is able to detect any movement in the water. This doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to dive and whatnot, it definitely should.
Suchomimus would be ~4200kg, so deino can't lunge it either. This size means that it stomps on all mid tiers, from Maia to Alberto to Allo, but other pseudos like theri are hard fights, and any apex makes it run for the water, to either wade or swim away.
This means sucho would live near rivers and other mid-depth bodies of water, viable for escape and fishing. It's speed would be mediocre and stamina good. I also want it to be able to pin small things to the ground, it would be a nice mechanic for it.
thats a good idea
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx thanks mate
Devs: *Bary but slightly more health*
Deino is 8 tons, it is very able to lunge 4 tons. I think they need another lunge mechanic for deino, things that are too heavy to be carried should be bitten and dragged, like crocs do with zebras.
@@SirKolass That sounds horrifying and I am all for it.
This is a pretty good take, honestly. There’s such big size difference between the two, that it is easily enough for niches to barely overlap. Sucho is dang near the size of an acro, and bary is around the same size as carno (length wise). I think you hit the nail on the head with this. Great video!
thank you so much💠
I kind of see things inverse from your viewpoint. I think Spino should be the most aquatic. The apex of the water, giving the crocs something to fear and avoid. The Sucho should be like a stork that can swim and dive, yes, but when faced with crocs and spinos would do better to get OUT of the water in order to escape them and move faster on land than both of them. Lastly, I think Baryonyx should behave more kind of like an otter. Swifter and more agile in the water than Sucho and Spino, but also faster on land for the same reasons. Other animals that occupy the same relationship between land and water would be Beipei and Austro. Both are swift and agile on land and in water, enough to escape larger predators like Sucho and Spino and even baryonyx. But with obvious weaknesses and strengths in and out of the water. If you’re a bary, you’ll likely find catching beipei easier on land. You’ll likely find catching Austro easier when Austro is swimming with its head above water and isn’t expecting you to come up from below. But otherwise both species will have greater agility and speed, so your tactics would need to account for that.
Everyone used to call Sucho "Danger Pelican" before Evrima was even an idea, so it's no surprise to me that they're leaning into the pelican thing.
I think low tier semi-aquatic predators must have some kind of counter for deinosuchus grab attack, so they have atleast a chance to survive an encounter.
I like the idea of sucho’s favored habitat being the beach.
Don't worry everyone in 6 year.
This might happen.
Loved the video ideas and the overall concept you have on bary and sucho, not everything similar is somehow redundant which is a great take. This would be an absolutely awesome video series for you to do! Keep up the W's Orni!
ahhhh you gem💠
Knowing the isle, a game that despite promising very unique abilities and playstyles for dinosaurs, the isle will more or less probably make bary and sucho the same playstyles. it's like how they make most small dinosaurs either tree climbers or burrowers.
i hope thats not the case
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx I hope so too, but I am 90% certain that they will not differentiate the two, except for making sucho a land pelican.
@@derekparker1715 :(
i think that bary should have a pretty powerful claw attack, because baryonyx literally means "strong claw".
About the suchomimus being a Semi-Aquatic, it is actually a "Pseudo-Aquatic" it couldn't sink irl and would basically be buoyant, relying mostly on animals near it's size or smaller, even fish would serve as a food source for Suchomimus
honestly that makes sense to me sucho a swimmer/wader but not a diver like a bear similar to what someone else said idk their name so srry that person
and yet we are getting a duck wanna be that FLOATS BUT IS STILL A SEMI AQUATIC
i love this guys energy so much i can see him going places
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You deserve more subs!
They all 3 should have some counter attacks for deinosuchus. Baryonyx and Sucho should kind of block the deino ambush to escape. The Spino should be able to drag Deinosuchus out of the water and turn them on to the back (costing them almost there whole stamina) make the Spino the Tankiest Dino with the most HP and best Bleed Resistance but super slow on land and while sprinting on land loosing stamina very quickly. So the Spino is Not to Overpowered on land but the strongest one in the water. He definitely should be able to kill deinos and regulate the whole Deino population
I’m ngl I’ve been binging your content dude, I can’t wait till your channel blows up
thank you so much that genuinely means a lot to me.
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx holy shit this video blew tf up, I take credit for manifesting it 😎
Joke
@@PIayer0 my boy its all yours 😂
I haven't really played the isle before so im not sure how the diet system works, but if I had to give my thoughts I'd say to make it so that all the spinosaurids prey on different types of fish. Bary goes after the faster prey like salmon and bass, suco goes after the bottom feeders like catfish, and spino can go after much larger fish like giant coelecanth or such ancient species
i like your thinking
Keep up the great work! Your are very calm lol, and I love how you make videos haha.
awww thank you :)
I know this is the reverse of reality, but having Barry be more viable for venturing away from water scratches my brain just right
If I were the devs I’d make the three spinosaurids this way: bary being a land ambusher which feeds on small swamp creatures like fish, small dinosaurs and juvenile deino. It has some sort of attack to stun things In the water and it’s fast and agile meaning it doesn’t need to swim much to escape, just use rivers as protection. Sucho would be a mid tier swamp dinosaur depending more on fish and juvenile creatures to feed. Suchomimus’ size makes it a hard dinosaur to kill but it behaves as a defensive carnivore in comparison to inland pursuit predators like allo or Alberto because it wouldn’t need to hunt big prey to feed, it’s more of a heron-like one shot kill for small and mid dinosaurs where if it gets an ambush on you you’re dead but it can’t deal damage fast enough on a big herbivore to take it down before it leaves. Then there’s Spinosaurus which is interesting since you don’t want to make it a boring giant fish eater. Spino in my opinion shouldn’t be an “apex” It should be an aquatic population controller meaning it’s the bane of deinosuchus, bary and suchomimus. As a spino it would be difficult to grow because I’d make the babies super clumsy and probably all dinosaurs could kill them easily unless nested, as an adolescent/juvenile I’d make them fast in land so they act as a hunter and when they reach adulthood they become slow but tanky and their niche is now as a river patroller. Spino would go around rivers trying to ambush deinosuchus and eating the other spinosaurids since the water scape route would be useless against Spino.
For all of them I’d make the bite attack not powerful but very fast and the claw attack very powerful but slow.
i like it tbh
Mostly seems good but idk about spino hunting deinosuchus. Deinosuchus has a much better bite, so I think it should have the advantage at least in water.
@@crabhater9373 yeah realistically a giant crocodile wins against any dinosaur but some big sauropods, since there’s no big fish or big acuatics for spino to catch and it wouldn’t even be able to fight giga or rex in terms of mobilitiy and anatomy for hunting the only thing it can exploit is their good water associated lifestyle.. If Spino is made into a JP3 running around killing why would you choose spino over rex or giga? for the looks exclusively. It doesn’t have any apparent adaptations to sprinting faster, more stamina, more bite force, more hp, more bleed damage or any other essential traits for a big herbivore predator. The only good thing it has is their claws which are much better suited to self defense and ambush than to big game hunting. If they want to make it more powerful than Rex or Giga in some place they need to make it do something with water or related to water which means it can’t take the ambush water predator already associated to deino, but it can’t take the fishing niche associated to bary or sucho so the only thing that is left is for it to hunt big water based animals which are deino and the other two spinosaurids. I can’t see another better option for it right now without making the gameplay a bit boring and I mean I love spinosaurus, never intended to underpower it compared to giga and rex but come on the sole features that make spino stand out (snout-sail-tail) are the ones that make it undoubtedly weaker as a land predator as the other apexes
@@sergioibarra3461 They should just make rivers bigger and make big aquatic species (AI or playable) for spino to hunt. Big duck hunting big croc would result in big duck six feet under.
I feel like spino is the perfect thing to keep deino pops under control. Not because they can kill an adult deino, but because an adult deino can kill an adult spino. Mega incentivizes spinos to kill young deinos, which they totally could because deino's loose the advantage they get from water when the thing killing them also has the advantage in water.
I’d like if sucho could scoop up scooling fish and swallow them as well as elite fish as shown in the concept art. I actually think that deino should be on sucho’s diet as i can see it snatching juvies and battling subs.
I could see Baryonixes swimmimg across rivers ocasionally, being a more agile scout playstile, ambushimg animals of similar size in water in order to have an upper hand on them. On the other hand I could see Suchos sitting in shallow water like hippos, with their heads peaking out of the water with possible moss latched onto them. Always used to see them do that in Legacy
yeah
I honestly could see sucho not being able to drive, living on the shores and near shallow water bodies to wade but being a competent enough swimmer to use deeper water for both escape and as a sort of highway for traveling between different feeding sights.
....also it probably couldn't dive well either.....
Couldn’t agree more with this
I do like you're point of view on this
Bary rely more on water and little on land
Sucho be in between can rely on both 50/50
Spino will rely more on land rather than water but can still use the water
Well done! I’d LOVE a Minmi vid!
i am thinking about it,ill explain how its good and its concept isnt a problem.
I really hope that this guy either gets heard by the isle devs or he becomes one himself
aww you gem💎💎
ik im 7 months late and idk if anyones talked about it yet but that concept art piece with deino and bary could be saying that bary has an automated denial to deino ambushes. Like maybe if a deino lunges at a bary on land the bary just auto forces its mouth shut and denys the grab
Regarding sucho's gullet, I wonder if that will enable it to carry food and still be able to attack or maybe it will let sucho carry more than 1 piece of food.
I don't think that sucho and bary should be on each other's diet especially if they end up like what you said. assuming that deino, sucho, and bary will wall have elite fish on their diets, they will all competing against each other for food and I dont think it would be nessicary to force them to activly prey on eachother since they'll be generally in the same areas anyway.
I wouldnt mind if deino, sucho, bary, and spino were able to cannibalize each other, but I don't think it should be rewarded by getting a nutrient from it due to the increased competition.
Bary should be a freshwater main. And Sucho should be saltwater. Perhaps each gains a stat buff when in or near by that type of water.
Considering how W I D E the new spin is compared to legacy, I think it should do the hippo walking. But be able to swim for short distances, if it’s shape was more realistic then of course it should be very aquatic
i like hippo walking
tbh I think bary sucho and spino all 3 more land hunters but their skeletons clearly show they where semi-aquatic being able to swim bary should rely mostly on the water sucho an in-between hunter and spino like any other apex predator but it has the ability to chose to go more in to water hunting deinonychus or hunting things like stegos, I do believe tho bary and sucho might be able to co exist / even benefit from each other since they are simular even for carnivores.
"Spino should be the least dependent on water."
Meanwhile, real science: "Spino's legs literally couldn't support its weight on land."
is that actually true? i thought it was a meme
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx Actually true, at least bipedally. Its femurs literally would break from having to support its weight on their own, meaning on land this thing was definitely a quadruped and thus slow and awkward.
They just shouldn't bother with having Spinosaurus in games at this point as the outdated depictions get worse by the day but what should I expect from a game that gladly has jurassic park ripoff Utah.
@@thenerdbeast7375 i think the isle is too far gone in that regard,evrima spino is a monster compard to irl spino. spino is an interesting creature with how much it changes.
@@thenerdbeast7375 Nizar Ibrahim's 2014 quadruped hypothesis is very dubious at best in the overall current scientific consensus, recent discoveries have indeed found spinos centre of mass was placed above its hips and its legs were strong enough to hold it and allow it to walk freely (likely awkwardly still due to their smaller proportions, I guess similar to a duck) knuckle walking is also inaccurate when you consider that the forelimbs/knuckles wouldn't be capable to supporting that weight
i agree sucho needs to be a nice balance of both while bary uses water more sucho should def be able to dive and everything just make it a bit slower in water i think sucho should be on bary and bary should be on spinos diet
I think its pretty solid ideas.
merci merci
I think sucho being on land would be fast making it so it can’t be bullied by animals such as acro
Baryonyx CLAWS SPEED!!!
Sucho : THICC
Suchomimus's hollow bone rendering it a rather poor swimmer, so it does in fact wades more than it swims
they actually found that baby poop less dense in the inside and sucho poop more dense hence being more on land
Legacy sucho needs water to survive or u would instantly be attacked or prayed on by all apexes since sucho is so slow and bary being extremly fast and agile so it could easily run away from anything and u rarely see them actually using water but sucho is always hiding in the water
Honestly the slap looked like a counter to deinos grab
I agree that the bigger spinosaurs still use the water, but are less reliant on it for food and safety. However, I also personally think the 3 spinosaurs would/should be played like bears.
Baryonyx would/should be like a Black Bear, where it avoids most things its size or bigger and has a more "aquatic/river bank" diet than the other three.
Suchomimus would/should be like a Brown/Grizzly Bear, where it is also a generalist, but it can throw its weight around more, and its diet can also be more generalist the most varied of the three spionsaurs.
And Spinosaurus himself would/should be like a Polar Bear, where it is very much a specialist, and due to its size, can afford to go after more land creatures than the other two can. Also, Spinosaurus should be the ONLY spinosaur that has the power and skill to tackle the open ocean and the ocean/coastal waters biomes, especially once things like mosasaurs, plesiosaurs, and other marine reptiles are (hopefully) added.
yeah i like the bear comparison
Personally about the spinosaurids having each other on their diets, i think that the bary should have sucho and spino, and sucho should have spino, but spino have neither.
The reason is so that the smaller spinosaurids are influenced to hunt younger specimens of their larger brothers, which would make for good control of the spino population especially, and additionally means that the adult bary/sucho/spino can be relatively chill near each other because its very unlikely that a bary could hunt a adult sucho/spino or a sucho could hunt a adult spino and there is no incentive for the larger spinosaurid species to hunt the smaller.
hmmm i like that
I kinda hope they would add the rotten fruit cider mechanic and if the herbivores ate them they would get immobilized by getting drunk. I know it doesn’t have anything to do with this video but hey it’s just a thought
thats an interesting idea,maybe fruit in a certain area
I class baryonyx as a “wader” because although it uses water as an escape route and to hunt large prey, it hunts fish by wading in shallow water and grabbing them or snapping them up. Suchomimus is sort of the same in this case, but it cannot dive and almost exclusively prefers wading/bullying preds off corpses. Nevertheless, this video is amazing and I would love seeing more topics like this.
Baryonyx and other Spinosaurid has high bone density, making them perfect swimmer, Suchomimus on the other hand, its bone density is low, making Suchomimus the worse swimmer compare to other Spinosaurid
nice video and you make good points
thank you :)
How To Differentiate Baryonyx And Suchomimus In Evrima
They are entirely different size classes and will have entirely different interactions with the local environment due to their entirely different strengths and sizes. Baryonyx can live in shallower water, is much smaller so it would have an easier time catching smaller prey, and would be faster. Sucho is larger and tankier so could take on larger targets and have less predators than Baryonyx, but if it wants to submerge it needs deeper water. There's nothing you *need* to do to make them different, because the fact that they're entirely different size classes already causes a significant difference in what they can or can't do
Make Sucho swim more slowly than Bary in the water, and restrict its oxygen. Instead of swimming underwater and looking for fish, Sucho will be sitting atop the surface, readying to do a short dive if it sees one. This makes it more unique, while also granting it the survival benefits of the water.
I also believe that Spino should be slightly faster than Sucho in the water, but slower on land. It'll add foolish Sucho's to the Spino's diet.
Tell me your thoughts.
decent idea tbh
Well Suchomimus was found to be more boyant than most other Spinosaurids, on the count that it had pretty hollow bones.
Maybe Baryonyx's claw attack on Deino is a counter, Deino tries to grab u, u press the button in time and you counter and stun the Deino long enough to run away.
i think its kinda right how sucho shouldnt be able to "swim" because they were mostly in shallow waters and sucho spent most time on ground because of his spine (if im right because of his spine) he cant dive and most likely was a slow swimmer but ofc still faster than for example a cera
they need to add WAY more fish if their gonna add any more semi aquatic dinos. Especially if your a piscivore...
Tbh your take on their gameplay sounds perfect, don’t really have any complaints. Don’t know why people would have a gripe with succo and bary in game at the same time because they do two different things in the isle’s ecosystem.
Though I agree the amount of playables at the end will be too much for a 100 player base for a balanced ecosystem, unless they get they ai working well, so that there is always a certain number of a species on the server
you deserve subs
awww ty
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx you give arguments so detailed how can one not sub
@@honokamichi7767 ahhh such a gem💎
i hope they add kaprosuchus too this will be like water raptor
Honestly both should be as you said where one is more used for water and swimming like the Deino while the other is a brawler on land but slow in water but both should have close to the same Diet like fish or seaturtles or even big fish but the bigger boy should also have the option to eat some dino's or creatures on land and not be all fish base
Sucho is bear or jaguar Bary is otter with bear claws and Spino is sea lion but the dev would not make it that so will just end up be a tiger
Another dino game I play has a perfect balance for sucho and bary (at least imo), with bary being a semi-aquatic and sucho a pseudo semi! bary can sprint in water, dive and hold its breath for a decent amount of time- whereas sucho can sprint in the water, cant dive but be idle in water n regen stam from doing so then looses stam from movement (unlike terrestrials who are slow in water, cant sprint and loose stam swimming or idle)
what game is that?
Honestly the only reason why I rather they discard baryonyx is so that they can replace it with irritator.
Bary is very small compared to sucho, irritator is small too compared to sucho but still slightly bigger than bary and yet very similar to the latter, so it would be a harmless replacement in terms of balance.
Actually the most important thing is that research has discovered how irritator can split its mouth, a bit like the hypo types in legacy, and I find it incredibly cool.
Can you imagine? A normal playable that can do that? Without feeling made up like with the hypos? It has the potential of being the most unique mechanic in the entire game.
What I mean is: bary and irritator can be viewed as "the same dinosaur" when it comes to balance, so having both in the game would be useless. Despite them being very similar combat-wise, irritator possesses a game mechanic that might actually bring more fun to the game than baryonyx, making it a better playable.
You talked about sucho possibly feeding like pelicans, but I believe that is more fit for irritator, which is why it would be cooler to have that than bary.
Irritator spliting it's mouth was more like a pelican.
@@kade-qt1zu still a better addition than baryonix
Id love to see both, but Suchomimus is ny favourite dinosaur of all time!
That’s a great favourite dinosaur to have
I want spino eventually to come to Evrima, but that might take a couple of years sadly xD
i personally think it would be cool if the sucho would be able to run at the bottom of bodies of water, much like a hippo would
that would be cool,spino is getting that
Can’t wait for this update to be finished in 2043
More Food for the Crocs ..... well maybe 15 years from now lol
here's my hot take. i don't think sucho should be on bary's diet and vice versa because neither of them have the tools to effectively hunt each other. sucho won't be able to catch a bary and bary will likely get floored if it tries to attack a sucho
i always thought the 3 of them were the other way, spino the most water adapted with baryonyx almost a raptor and sucho in between
I think that bary and sucho should be able to cohabitate with each other
While I do like the idea of sucho being more stamina based and lower speed, it seems like hunting just isn't what the devs want for it. I see Bary being the most viable out of the pair (although it depends purely on its matchup with deino).
"The Suchomimus finds itself in a unique spot in the ecosystem, able to traverse the land and thrive in the shallows. Large and powerful enough to deter most predators, whilst lacking the speed and stamina necessary to hunt most land based creatures. Instead relying primarily on a diet of fish"
It seems that this creature will mainly be in shallow waters, fishing. While also probably having the ability to just outright body a solo carnivore off kills up to alberto size.
Suchos biggest weakness is its lack of speed (and potentially stamina) which means that it will most likely be threatened by raptor packs significantly, and packs of mid tier carnivores such as allo. So maybe being on land might not be the best strategy for a solo sucho.
I doubt suchos will be packing up much. At most a pair. Although it's fishing gameplay probably means that its largely solitary anyway.
Anyways, another interesting video, Orni!
Could allow sucho to drink saltwater like protoceratops is shown doing in its dossier
potentially
I think it will be opposite, I think baryonyx will be seen on land almost as often if not more often that spino. I say this because baryonyx will be able to run from predators on land much better than sucho will be able too. I believe bary will be able to take on many mid tiers especially carno due to how weak it is to bleed. And if one bary can’t kill a cerato two barys should make it an even fight. Bary will also have a bigger pack size than sucho making it even more viable to take down bigger prey, bary just looks more land built. Sucho will be on land hunting don’t get me wrong but it will definitely not strain as far away from the water as bary will.
Bary has less bone density then such, so Sucho will probably be more terrestrial- its also a strong mid-tier that can easily send a lot of non-apex carnivores running
@@isabellabrown9298 true
Sucho shouldn’t be able dive but be able to just sink when it wants kinda like hippos can or it gradually goes to the bottom as it “swims” and to lunge out of the water by using its strong legs to push its self out of the water at great speed to either escape from dieno or to catch a small prey while it drinks
thats a decent idea tbh
nice
Could you do a video on differentiating both bary and sucho from spino?
i could yes,but i slightly covered it here but i do plan on making a my idea for spino vid at some point,so that should cover it
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx cheers
I think Baryonyx should be a bleeder while Sucho has raw damage but less bleed
yeah i like that
Bary release day: 2028 winter
Sucho release day: early 2032
Spino release day: TBA est. 2045
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i think it'll be probally
Bary: 2050
Sucho: 2087
Spino: 3050 (yes, 1 thousand years after sucho)
Can’t wait for these dinos to be added but Baryonyx is around 9 to 11 meters long exactly the same as a sucho so I don’t know why the bary is smaller but I really like the designs
Well yeah length not height sense sucho is 11,5 meters tall and on avarage a rex is estimated to be 12 meters so you know.
Mass says otherwise. Sucho is chonkier. Heck at 12 meters, Rex is around 7-8 tons or so, perhaps 9 on larger estimates.
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Sucho is just baryonyx on steroids lol
@@trendyfish5652 Basically. And Spino is when Sucho decided to gain more gains.
@@shaxo5364 WHAT THE - how would a suchomimus reach 11.5 meters TALL? this means probally more than 30 METERS LONG! 11.5 meters is the length of suchomimus, and a tyrannosaurus is not 12 meters tall too
Suchomimus is better in my opinion,I just like it overall than Baryonyx but both irl are cool animals
But yes Orni this was a pretty good video
awww merci
This is damn near perfect for the bary and sucho and this is realistically how I'd want them to play as well since it's also paleo accurate ,but out of all the spinosauridae spinosours should be the one that most water reliant as that how the existed as mainly fish eaters this would not put then in contention for food with larger apexes just like it did irl with it and carcha the spinos diet should be completely consistent of fish as spinosours irl preferred fish also so it doesn't incentive them hunting non aquatics but at the same time although not in its preferred diet spinosours did scavenge non aquatic dinasours .irritator a member of the spinosauridae did do this as it's tooth was food in a cretaceous in 2004 so it's safe to assume that the related spino although largely a meat eater would not be above hunting or scavenging non aquatic.
Also hopefully the fox the tail on the current spino concept cause that thing looks horrible the concept also grossly miss characterizes the giant cross faced theropod
*Fish Easter * we also need the introduction of much much larger fish into the game for any of this spinosauridae to work
irl spino was the most aquatic, but the isle spino isnt really that much like the real deal. But i actually really like barry and sucho, they are fundamentally different even if they have similarities. The sucho will be the one in the most danger from apexes, even in legacy it was bad purly due to its interactions with giga being so horribly one sided.
i love your profile pic
i always took barry as the perfect on land and water dino, and sucho is faser on land than spino and middle of the two, and ofc spino being the god of water, and just generally something you don't wanna be around, Buuuut i am okay with barry being a WATER BOI, i just think sucho has that long leg big fat tail and he'll trot more on land than both barry and spino! i am so happy i caught this videdo +1 sub from me and like etc... but i look forward ot more content! THANK YOU!
awww merci merci
When ?
Im ready to play as the sucho in 2024 :D
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2089***
Baryonyx is my favorite dinosaur!
he is cool
I'd like more aquatics atm just gator isn't enough.
true
My only worry is how Sucho will compete with spino, I really don’t want it to be defenseless against it
my thought is it'll be faster and have more stamina
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx That’s my hope, it wasn’t the case in legacy but it definitely seems that spino will have much different gameplay than before, hope it’s emphasized by its short legs
Imagen a sucho and like 2 bary’s fighting over territory in the swamp
when that day comes,i will be there
@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx sameeeee
2:57 considering that even Rex could swim that argument is stupid af. xD
Just looking at this ruclips.net/video/7mtaXP2Nar0/видео.html makes that argument pointless.
Completely agree with this video, I hope the devs find a way to make Deino more balanced, right now I can't see bary surviving it other then evading on the land where it would be weak to land predators. I think deino should be on a lot of diets just so that juvenile/sub deinos get preyed upon and we dont get a deino mass outbreak.
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i want spino he is my boy and i love him
Differences
Baryonyx is my favourite dinosaur
hes cool
I’m so excited for when this game is done, but the devs are killing me bro
it does take a while
Except these won’t come out for 2 years atleast