Not to mention that they spent an entire year "working" on humans and mentioning non stop that they were going to be added in update 6, and in the end all we got was the same mechanicless, featureless playable humans but now with different clothing, I'm sure Merc fans felt it was worth the wait
It’s mind boggling how people fear monger over humans being added and “ruining the game” when even the devs have shown they don’t take the idea of adding humans seriously. In all likelihood at this point in the games development so much time has been spent balancing Dino’s in the absence of humans that if they were added now they’d completely topple the current balance and force a redesign of dinos. Not that I’m complaining though, as that’s on the devs for not having the foresight to add humans sooner and balance them alongside Dino’s. (Insert afterthought studios joke here)
They even promised to actually add them in the game December 2021.. same with migration system last update etc. They also always say "If it's not on the Trello then it most likely wont get added" but then again keep changing it so they can blame it on the community xD
At this point I don't understand how people can be invested in the Isle when it's just been people dealing with the same shit from the developers for 7 years. 7 years. 7 years. Yet STILL not really going anywhere. Development starts. Stagnates. Not really goes anywhere. Something happens. Start again from clean slate. Over, and over, and over again. They say they will do better after they fucked up with Paradym but they don't do better. Hell, at this point they don't admit they can do anything wrong and act like everybody else is the problem. They are literally repeating their own mistakes over and over again. The Isle will never succeed. It's all a deception. Any perception of potential from the Isle is an illusion. The game has always had "potential" but it's never gone further than that. So why do we keep dealing with it?
Because the devs have managed to target vunerable individuals and create a cult-like obsession. It's sad, honestly. Genuinly one of the more concerning dev teams around.
I can agree. I just follow the Discord just to see if they have any meaningful information and updates, but it doesn’t. It’s tragic especially since The Isle started the dinosaur survival genre. I’ve pretty much spend my time playing PoT since it actually is doing something. Personally I’m half tempted to try and start my own game but alas, I don’t have the “skills” to really do it nor the time to. If I could, I definitely would team up with like minded people who would be interested in making a good dinosaur survival game.
There is probably a wide selection of Jurassic Park quotes you could easily use in this context, but I can't think of one so I'll just use the classic "that is one big pile of sh*t" line. To the developers of course, not to you
Yep, it's now blatantly apparent that the game's just a long-running early access scam. It will never see a finalized release at this rate and I warn everyone who's interested not to waste their money purchasing it.
It would be really nice if interviews with the devs could be done. And talk to them about what they faced with each update and why some of them took so long and why some were released in such poor states.
@@eeelorde9962 play my quirky isle inspired game called beasts of big booba it has a giant map which no now would explore a legacy isle combat system /weight based and it has stolen assets PLaY NOW before my pyroraptor does your mother 👩 and sets you on fire 🔥
I’ve genuinly been having more fun playing PoT as of very recent, maybe because it’s newer content to me, but it’s not as bad as what I’ve heard. Then again I almost strictly play on community servers because official is ruled by clans and stuff
Honestly I never really play officials in all 3 games anyways. I always play in community servers in old Isle, BoB and PoT. It's always a better community experience overall. At least having some minimal rules to keep it somewhat fair too.
yeah, I started off playing POT cos I didn’t have a PC and I always thought of it as the ‘lesser isle’. When I got a PC, I played the isle for like a month straight, literally every day, but now I’ve played literally every playstyle, I’ve migrated back to POT.
Agreed, I’ve been finding PoTs custom servers a hell of a lot more fun the isle for the last year… helps a lot when your game gets updated multiple times a year like normal game development
Pots combat is awful. Nobody has anything to do. There is no real survival at all. And if it's intentional it's even worse. Everyone is bored out of their minds. How is making food highly available to give more time to collect flowers and clamps a good idea?
Really wish we could see what the game would play like with pre-3.75 balance. It genuinely 180'd the experience for me and made the devs look incredibly tone deaf, and they still are IMO. If only modding was a thing so people could actually rebalance the game properly for them.
I really didn't enjoy that balance at all. There were videos of things like 6 utahs wiping a pair of adults stegos in less than 60 seconds, without losing a single utah.
@@frumpkin9282 Probably seen the same videos as you and it's not a fair comparison because of the difference in skill (not a joke). I'm guessing ScopeOG's stuff might be on your list of videos; It's not a mystery that better players who play a creature with a higher skill-ceiling will win against worst players that play something like stego which is literally just right-click to win and nothing else. If anything, overinflating the stats of large creatures like stego is just a big cope for the devs designing them with zero depth, unlike utah which has a good amount of depth but is nerfed so hard / so comparatively weak that it's not even worth learning how to play anymore. _______________________________________________ 3.75 also had bad implications on how strong less-grown dinosaurs played; Before 3.75 I was able to go toe-to-toe against an adult utahraptor as a subadult utahraptor if I was skilled enough to outplay them, despite the adult still having better stats. Now the stat discrepancy is so huge between growth differences that this is just not possible anymore and makes the game much more limiting and boring.
@@frumpkin9282 a lot of stego player enjoyed that tho. Now being adult is boring, no risk of death and no one even wants to fight you. Fights with good utahs were fun
@@Saurygiel With the arbitary health system, you ended up with awful and odd things. Like a 500kg stego having less health than a dryo (which was tiny next to it). A utah at equal size had over 3x the health! And yeah stego does has 0 depth. It shouldn't even have been added. It feels like playing as AI for all the depth and mechanics it has. Kentro would have suited the roster far more.
imagine if they released evrima in the state its in rn. meaning we would start with "U6" and have 9 playables off the jump and have 3 coming a few months after evrimas release.... that would be so cool
Agree but then the playerbase lose the patience and pretty much the fanbase dissapear so the development have been stopped. Life thingies happend and they overthought their capacity to make progress. In development it happens often.
@@sziklamester1244 well hopefully this year is pretty good for the isle idk why but I’m pretty hopeful trex and trike could come by the end of the year
@@CurseOfVanishingI if you still have any hope for this game you haven't been paying attention. If you looked in their discord and saw the amount of whining, arguments and unprofessionalism the devs display towards the members...that alone is the reason the game won't go anywhere. This behavior is not normal
@@pain002 I don’t pay attention to the devs less they are giving useful info we all know most of the devs are dickheads so I just tune them out less they have something to say also we are getting 4 playables in a .5 update and kissen confirmed in the devblog dibble and dilo for U7 and after that willing to bet the next dino will be Herrera. My love for this game out weighs the shitty personalities of the devs and the way they do things bc Ik evrima can be great and will be when it’s 100% complete
very surprised to see update 2 (and 3 to an extent) be rated so high , 3 i can understand as 2 cool new creatures that have a playstyle never seen in the isle before (mostly) , but update 2 was good on release sure but shorty after the hotfixes the servers were so unstable you could barely play an hour without crashing , and it stayed like that for almost 7 months which is completely unacceptable , and update 3 much like 2 was nice on launch but once again many months of neglect by the devs , many gamebreaking issues like flying deinosuchus and crashes , and the most unbalanced carno we have ever had (except for the current one cuz thats also pretty busted). maybe its just nostalgia for most cuz i too have fond memories from updates 2 and 3 , but i very much remember the bad too and there was plenty
If we get double the content we got in year 1 this year, I'll be satisfied. That is how this should work... right? A year of work on troodon, oviraptor, ceratosaurus, triceratops, tyrannosaurus, and a few others, AND major mechanics like the elder system SHOULD mean we get all that and more this year right? RIGHT? I only can hope with such an incompetent dev team.
i sure love waiting years for skins and gore, both of which dont affect gameplay! atleast update 5 had pretty good balencing. then update 6 ruins it all also, wegot hoomen, yipee
Don't forget that between year one and two, one of their team *died*. No one seems to mention this or bring it up in videos about their pacing, but that probably sucked away a lot of morale and/or caused emotional distress for a long time. I do still overall agree with your video though, that the pace is still atrocious and they're still very disorganized nonetheless.
Foszor passed away from their team, also 2020-21-22 is about the covid and war and restrictions makes the development of a game harder and there are other life issues which is adds to the pile of the things. I can understand the developer sides aswell because making is always harder than destroying. The only thing what the devs may could have say is we are sorry but we cannot keep the plans because of issues but if people promise something and often not kept those promises that makes the other part of the community angry. The same happend with Taleworlds when they promised bannerlord to be released in 2014 and the game only released to EA after 5 year basically so the development side is not as easy what the majority of the playerbase thinks. I do agree with the video on the part organization and planning can help things but if something changing and you not react to it, that means often you will replan the things you wanted.
@@sziklamester1244 They have always been like this. They overhype and then just disappoint. Sure life is tough and the death of foszor was sad. That would all not be so bad. If they atleast tell us, that they just need longer. Yet they are such children about it. They witchhunt, insult and ban people for it, instead of growing a pair and say it. If dondi wasnt the way he is... I'd be so much more ok with the delay... oh and the toxic bootlickers on discord. They also drag the game down and give dondi this petty echochamber. They need to better themself as well.
@@_swift_fox_5952 I can agree with that, sadly they do no have the skill needed to communicate well to the community. Lot of things could have been prevented if they take the courage-time to tell they are not as fast as they thought.
Not only Is it the lack of updates but the horrible balancing, the isle majority of the community always want to use realism to justify a class being over performing/underperforming and completely throw balance out of the question. This is a game first and foremost and people need to stop using realism as an excuse when it’s convenient for them.
Aye and as a person who tends to enjoy accuracy..there comes a point where fun must overrule it. Plus to act like the animals in this game are realistic is a rather flimsy excuse to avoid criticism cus at this point just go big or go home
Yeah evrima's gameplay released up to update 3 was the best gameplay that anyone could ever had ,and everything was going to get better when dondi was pulled in the background,but after update 4 everything went downhill after that,the graphics look nothing like in the hope trailer,the skin system was a huge improvement and also nesting but we never got a new playables,and I would have loved the update if they added oviraptor in update 5, that would make the update so much fun,for update 6 was the worst update that was released in the game,there was no playables and the gore was disappointing,let's hope update 6.5 will make the game better once beipei and ceratosaurus are released.
I just don't understand still why they didn't just update steadly what they already had I've honestly been playing beast of bermuda over the isle for months now
.... And I quote dondi evrima will be more optimized then legacy wat a disappointment that was heck most of evrima was a disappointment and nothing but meaningless updates that could be done after all the main updates come out instead of reworking them every time a new dino come out plus wtf work for ever on a map promise the map will get bigger then scrap that idea and make a new map like wat are u doing my lord give us playable then put these less viable updates out also take out that stupid AF lock screen while eating like tf dinos have longer necks then us humans and I can eat while staring behind me however I eat slightly slower while doing it so like if u wanna nerf us do it like that instead of giving us what is essentially lock jaw but in the neck while eating it's so wierd
Not to mention that they spent an entire year "working" on humans and mentioning non stop that they were going to be added in update 6, and in the end all we got was the same mechanicless, featureless playable humans but now with different clothing, I'm sure Merc fans felt it was worth the wait
They love baiting people with humans it's crazy
It’s mind boggling how people fear monger over humans being added and “ruining the game” when even the devs have shown they don’t take the idea of adding humans seriously.
In all likelihood at this point in the games development so much time has been spent balancing Dino’s in the absence of humans that if they were added now they’d completely topple the current balance and force a redesign of dinos.
Not that I’m complaining though, as that’s on the devs for not having the foresight to add humans sooner and balance them alongside Dino’s. (Insert afterthought studios joke here)
isle devs sure love baiting the fans with features that they'll never properly add don't they
@@sinovenator13 yeah it’s a lol just all a afterthought too them 💀
They even promised to actually add them in the game December 2021.. same with migration system last update etc. They also always say "If it's not on the Trello then it most likely wont get added" but then again keep changing it so they can blame it on the community xD
Has it really been a year since I have actually enjoyed the game? Damn, Truly a Dondi moment.
At this point I don't understand how people can be invested in the Isle when it's just been people dealing with the same shit from the developers for 7 years. 7 years. 7 years. Yet STILL not really going anywhere. Development starts. Stagnates. Not really goes anywhere. Something happens. Start again from clean slate. Over, and over, and over again. They say they will do better after they fucked up with Paradym but they don't do better. Hell, at this point they don't admit they can do anything wrong and act like everybody else is the problem. They are literally repeating their own mistakes over and over again. The Isle will never succeed. It's all a deception. Any perception of potential from the Isle is an illusion. The game has always had "potential" but it's never gone further than that. So why do we keep dealing with it?
Because the devs have managed to target vunerable individuals and create a cult-like obsession. It's sad, honestly. Genuinly one of the more concerning dev teams around.
I can agree. I just follow the Discord just to see if they have any meaningful information and updates, but it doesn’t. It’s tragic especially since The Isle started the dinosaur survival genre. I’ve pretty much spend my time playing PoT since it actually is doing something. Personally I’m half tempted to try and start my own game but alas, I don’t have the “skills” to really do it nor the time to. If I could, I definitely would team up with like minded people who would be interested in making a good dinosaur survival game.
There is probably a wide selection of Jurassic Park quotes you could easily use in this context, but I can't think of one so I'll just use the classic "that is one big pile of sh*t" line.
To the developers of course, not to you
Yep, it's now blatantly apparent that the game's just a long-running early access scam. It will never see a finalized release at this rate and I warn everyone who's interested not to waste their money purchasing it.
the only real reason that it's been taking so long is because the teams too small for what they're making
It would be really nice if interviews with the devs could be done. And talk to them about what they faced with each update and why some of them took so long and why some were released in such poor states.
“Are you a game developer? STOP COMPLAINING “
I love this meat rider defense lmaoooo
@@eeelorde9962 “don’t criticise the isle devs they are good at their jobs don’t act like you can do better” -🤓
@@darthdistix1895 lmao
@@eeelorde9962 play my quirky isle inspired game called beasts of big booba it has a giant map which no now would explore a legacy isle combat system /weight based and it has stolen assets PLaY NOW before my pyroraptor does your mother 👩 and sets you on fire 🔥
Never known a competent game developer who leaves their game at an EA phase for nearly 8yrs and counting.
I’ve genuinly been having more fun playing PoT as of very recent, maybe because it’s newer content to me, but it’s not as bad as what I’ve heard. Then again I almost strictly play on community servers because official is ruled by clans and stuff
Honestly I never really play officials in all 3 games anyways. I always play in community servers in old Isle, BoB and PoT.
It's always a better community experience overall. At least having some minimal rules to keep it somewhat fair too.
yeah, I started off playing POT cos I didn’t have a PC and I always thought of it as the ‘lesser isle’. When I got a PC, I played the isle for like a month straight, literally every day, but now I’ve played literally every playstyle, I’ve migrated back to POT.
@@whoahanant agreed I like servers with minimal rules just like,
No mixpacking, no Megapacking, no body deny and stuff, don’t like heavy rules
Agreed, I’ve been finding PoTs custom servers a hell of a lot more fun the isle for the last year… helps a lot when your game gets updated multiple times a year like normal game development
Pots combat is awful. Nobody has anything to do. There is no real survival at all. And if it's intentional it's even worse. Everyone is bored out of their minds. How is making food highly available to give more time to collect flowers and clamps a good idea?
Really wish we could see what the game would play like with pre-3.75 balance. It genuinely 180'd the experience for me and made the devs look incredibly tone deaf, and they still are IMO. If only modding was a thing so people could actually rebalance the game properly for them.
I really didn't enjoy that balance at all. There were videos of things like 6 utahs wiping a pair of adults stegos in less than 60 seconds, without losing a single utah.
@@frumpkin9282 Probably seen the same videos as you and it's not a fair comparison because of the difference in skill (not a joke). I'm guessing ScopeOG's stuff might be on your list of videos;
It's not a mystery that better players who play a creature with a higher skill-ceiling will win against worst players that play something like stego which is literally just right-click to win and nothing else.
If anything, overinflating the stats of large creatures like stego is just a big cope for the devs designing them with zero depth, unlike utah which has a good amount of depth but is nerfed so hard / so comparatively weak that it's not even worth learning how to play anymore.
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3.75 also had bad implications on how strong less-grown dinosaurs played;
Before 3.75 I was able to go toe-to-toe against an adult utahraptor as a subadult utahraptor if I was skilled enough to outplay them, despite the adult still having better stats. Now the stat discrepancy is so huge between growth differences that this is just not possible anymore and makes the game much more limiting and boring.
@@frumpkin9282 I actually enjoyed playing Stego back then cause it felt like there were actually stakes involved
@@frumpkin9282 a lot of stego player enjoyed that tho. Now being adult is boring, no risk of death and no one even wants to fight you. Fights with good utahs were fun
@@Saurygiel With the arbitary health system, you ended up with awful and odd things. Like a 500kg stego having less health than a dryo (which was tiny next to it). A utah at equal size had over 3x the health!
And yeah stego does has 0 depth. It shouldn't even have been added. It feels like playing as AI for all the depth and mechanics it has. Kentro would have suited the roster far more.
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imagine if they released evrima in the state its in rn. meaning we would start with "U6" and have 9 playables off the jump and have 3 coming a few months after evrimas release.... that would be so cool
Agree but then the playerbase lose the patience and pretty much the fanbase dissapear so the development have been stopped. Life thingies happend and they overthought their capacity to make progress. In development it happens often.
@@sziklamester1244 well hopefully this year is pretty good for the isle idk why but I’m pretty hopeful trex and trike could come by the end of the year
@@CurseOfVanishingI if you still have any hope for this game you haven't been paying attention. If you looked in their discord and saw the amount of whining, arguments and unprofessionalism the devs display towards the members...that alone is the reason the game won't go anywhere. This behavior is not normal
@@pain002 I don’t pay attention to the devs less they are giving useful info we all know most of the devs are dickheads so I just tune them out less they have something to say also we are getting 4 playables in a .5 update and kissen confirmed in the devblog dibble and dilo for U7 and after that willing to bet the next dino will be Herrera. My love for this game out weighs the shitty personalities of the devs and the way they do things bc Ik evrima can be great and will be when it’s 100% complete
Truly amazing video,I quite enjoyed really thought me a lot about Evirma's development.
very surprised to see update 2 (and 3 to an extent) be rated so high , 3 i can understand as 2 cool new creatures that have a playstyle never seen in the isle before (mostly) , but update 2 was good on release sure but shorty after the hotfixes the servers were so unstable you could barely play an hour without crashing , and it stayed like that for almost 7 months which is completely unacceptable , and update 3 much like 2 was nice on launch but once again many months of neglect by the devs , many gamebreaking issues like flying deinosuchus and crashes , and the most unbalanced carno we have ever had (except for the current one cuz thats also pretty busted). maybe its just nostalgia for most cuz i too have fond memories from updates 2 and 3 , but i very much remember the bad too and there was plenty
I'm convinced this god forsaken game is entirely a test to see how long you can delay somethings development.
right lol
If we get double the content we got in year 1 this year, I'll be satisfied. That is how this should work... right? A year of work on troodon, oviraptor, ceratosaurus, triceratops, tyrannosaurus, and a few others, AND major mechanics like the elder system SHOULD mean we get all that and more this year right? RIGHT? I only can hope with such an incompetent dev team.
that would never happen lol year 1 will be the most succesful year theyll ever have
You must be new here expecting anything from this dev team.
Hope the the Next update with cerato, beipi and troodon releases Next month
Very optimistic
I would assume a May, June, or July release
Hell knowing them a December wouldn't be weird
Next year with only troodon, take it or leave it.
@@Akaryusan meanwhile the isle working so long on troodon that scientists already established them as nomen dubium
I pretty much stopped playing after 3.5... Occasionally I came back, but only to uninstall the game after a day or so
i sure love waiting years for skins and gore, both of which dont affect gameplay! atleast update 5 had pretty good balencing. then update 6 ruins it all
also, wegot hoomen, yipee
oh yes, utah teleporting to you while pouncing is very balanced
@@ender_z4nd3r83 better then losing your entire stam bar in 1 second of bucking
im going insane Skyrim music is following me everywhere i go
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jeez just looking back at update 6 and looking how they literally had nothing in that update
Don't forget that between year one and two, one of their team *died*. No one seems to mention this or bring it up in videos about their pacing, but that probably sucked away a lot of morale and/or caused emotional distress for a long time. I do still overall agree with your video though, that the pace is still atrocious and they're still very disorganized nonetheless.
I think a Video about all the shit that the Devs have would be way much longer
Foszor passed away from their team, also 2020-21-22 is about the covid and war and restrictions makes the development of a game harder and there are other life issues which is adds to the pile of the things. I can understand the developer sides aswell because making is always harder than destroying. The only thing what the devs may could have say is we are sorry but we cannot keep the plans because of issues but if people promise something and often not kept those promises that makes the other part of the community angry. The same happend with Taleworlds when they promised bannerlord to be released in 2014 and the game only released to EA after 5 year basically so the development side is not as easy what the majority of the playerbase thinks. I do agree with the video on the part organization and planning can help things but if something changing and you not react to it, that means often you will replan the things you wanted.
@@sziklamester1244 They have always been like this. They overhype and then just disappoint. Sure life is tough and the death of foszor was sad. That would all not be so bad. If they atleast tell us, that they just need longer. Yet they are such children about it. They witchhunt, insult and ban people for it, instead of growing a pair and say it. If dondi wasnt the way he is... I'd be so much more ok with the delay... oh and the toxic bootlickers on discord. They also drag the game down and give dondi this petty echochamber. They need to better themself as well.
@@_swift_fox_5952 I can agree with that, sadly they do no have the skill needed to communicate well to the community. Lot of things could have been prevented if they take the courage-time to tell they are not as fast as they thought.
RIP Foszor
Not only Is it the lack of updates but the horrible balancing, the isle majority of the community always want to use realism to justify a class being over performing/underperforming and completely throw balance out of the question. This is a game first and foremost and people need to stop using realism as an excuse when it’s convenient for them.
Aye and as a person who tends to enjoy accuracy..there comes a point where fun must overrule it. Plus to act like the animals in this game are realistic is a rather flimsy excuse to avoid criticism cus at this point just go big or go home
Realism is the excused favoured by people who want to justify bad game design
Yeah evrima's gameplay released up to update 3 was the best gameplay that anyone could ever had ,and everything was going to get better when dondi was pulled in the background,but after update 4 everything went downhill after that,the graphics look nothing like in the hope trailer,the skin system was a huge improvement and also nesting but we never got a new playables,and I would have loved the update if they added oviraptor in update 5, that would make the update so much fun,for update 6 was the worst update that was released in the game,there was no playables and the gore was disappointing,let's hope update 6.5 will make the game better once beipei and ceratosaurus are released.
We should compare it to the updates PoT had in that same time frame 😂
So compare a objectively terrible game to a great game
Yes we need this, let the isle die and pot flourish
8:18 i feel like this is when the isle went downhill
what's the background music?
Why are they going so slow with the updates?
I just don't understand still why they didn't just update steadly what they already had I've honestly been playing beast of bermuda over the isle for months now
I think It was 3.75 and until update 4 released when your dinosaur wasnt saved when you logged out. It sucked so bad
what do u mean by hipsie not having growth? it worked for me when i spawned i a nest? it has growth, or am i insane?
It has growth now but it only works for nesting. It's not something you spawn with. Also its nesting growth is post year 1 and 2
at this point I just a update 😥
.... And I quote dondi evrima will be more optimized then legacy wat a disappointment that was heck most of evrima was a disappointment and nothing but meaningless updates that could be done after all the main updates come out instead of reworking them every time a new dino come out plus wtf work for ever on a map promise the map will get bigger then scrap that idea and make a new map like wat are u doing my lord give us playable then put these less viable updates out also take out that stupid AF lock screen while eating like tf dinos have longer necks then us humans and I can eat while staring behind me however I eat slightly slower while doing it so like if u wanna nerf us do it like that instead of giving us what is essentially lock jaw but in the neck while eating it's so wierd
If the devs were half as productive as you rn.... i mean we didnt even have a phase 3 since 8th of march
dude i thought we were going to get update 7 but early april late march idk even if will get it in may tbh
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Dondi was the only good dev😂 you don’t know what ur talking about. The first year of evrima, Dondi was Encharge, second year kissen was Encharge
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