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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • For many, the ARMS reveal trailer for Min Min joining Smash Bros was a fun experience, but for ARMS fans who know the lore, there are some glaring mistakes that can't be overlooked.

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  • @MeesaiD
    @MeesaiD 4 года назад +580

    Nintendo was probably like: Eh, we can let this slide. Not like anyone is going to pay attention to that.

    • @Heira
      @Heira 4 года назад +12

      Actually uh they did notice the Dr ribbon who can control arms better than min min which she did help her before she was gonna use her signature arms so yea uh also Dr ribbon is only fan made character who can control arms well smarter to have normal arms and um did Dr coyle help fix this problem lol 🤣 she experienment the arms ability carefully so if she has her mask on she can control it even if the mask is off so yeah lol

    • @PulseAnimations878
      @PulseAnimations878 4 года назад +13

      @@Heira uh what?

    • @cheems3668
      @cheems3668 4 года назад +12

      @@PulseAnimations878 shhhh, if we don't move and stay quiet, they won't know we're here

    • @kinglycrimson
      @kinglycrimson 4 года назад +3

      They can activate and deactivate the arms

    • @redhood2594
      @redhood2594 4 года назад +4

      @@kinglycrimson no they can take off the weapons
      the ARMS themselves are permanent

  • @deadmeme4058
    @deadmeme4058 4 года назад +231

    Well, as long as it's a min min, it's a win win.

  • @jackhills8823
    @jackhills8823 4 года назад +461

    Maybe this is the lore. Maybe min min awakened herself for the invitation

    • @Yarcaz
      @Yarcaz 4 года назад +29

      I like this idea.

    • @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT
      @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT 4 года назад +13

      I feel like it’s like Beastmen in BNA.

    • @weeboteeboxd9256
      @weeboteeboxd9256 4 года назад +6

      @@Water_Me_Loan_64_YT it's funny how I just started the series yesterday and I already see a BNA comparison xD

    • @critshitscritshits1087
      @critshitscritshits1087 4 года назад +3

      Noodle power

    • @Redbeedrill
      @Redbeedrill 4 года назад +7

      yeah kinda like how corrin chooses to join smash instead of doing a path in the game but already has the fully realized weapon from their game that you'd only get when you fight the 3rd paths final boss. it's just an alt take for the smash universe

  • @mikeydowikey4140
    @mikeydowikey4140 4 года назад +55

    Simple: The trailer is just a fun way to show off Min Min and isn’t canon

  • @BlueDragoon97
    @BlueDragoon97 4 года назад +550

    Have you considered the possibility that the trailer is a dramatization of the point at which Min Min first gained her powers? Once she transforms we don’t see her go back, and she coils up her arms when she sits down to eat with Kirby at the end, so it could just be a version of Min Min’s origins but with Captain Falcon and Kirby.

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +89

      Also not possible as acceptance into the ARMS league is not done by just walking into the ring. Convenient she would also already have a mask HMMMM?

    • @BlueDragoon97
      @BlueDragoon97 4 года назад +152

      Stanpai That’s why I called it a DRAMATIZATION. Of course they’re not gonna show the whole thing, it would take too long.

    • @ThatGuyThomas
      @ThatGuyThomas 4 года назад +52

      @@BlueDragoon97 that's kind of what I was thinking, how this was mainly showing how Min Min became an ARMS fighter.

    • @illusionaryheart3325
      @illusionaryheart3325 4 года назад +29

      Stanpai Even so... A bunch of fighters showed up to an unofficial game so nothing about it was official

    • @midgarchannel436
      @midgarchannel436 4 года назад +35

      @@Stanpai Woah man, take is easy lol

  • @thinkfighttalk2403
    @thinkfighttalk2403 4 года назад +372

    Waluigi: Silly Springman. Assist Trophies can't be characters.

    • @Twilight17Petkoton
      @Twilight17Petkoton 4 года назад +17

      Nice try Waluigi you don't have a game of your own so checkmate.

    • @Djay_B
      @Djay_B 4 года назад +5

      I cannot like this comment! It is at 69 likes!

    • @Twilight17Petkoton
      @Twilight17Petkoton 4 года назад +7

      @@Djay_B Ok no more on the 69 and 420 numbers jokes. What up with the obsessing on number jokes huh?

    • @raemonn15
      @raemonn15 4 года назад +14

      Tell that to Little Mac, Isabelle, and Dark Samus.

    • @blupyro3098
      @blupyro3098 4 года назад +5

      Geno: sucks to be you two! Ha ha! SPIRITS DECONFIRM!
      Shantae: that’s exactly what people said when they saw my new trailer (it’s just a window guys)

  • @iggy_bunny
    @iggy_bunny 4 года назад +263

    The whole ARMS universe: wait, that's illegal!
    Min Min: nothing can stop me if i'm joining *SMASH!!!!!!*

  • @MineNAdventurer
    @MineNAdventurer 4 года назад +111

    I actually didn't know they had a Comic for ARMS. Neat

    • @metr0nom314
      @metr0nom314 4 года назад +8

      Its been in development hell for a couple years now, it was originally supposed to release 2 years ago but has been delayed multiple times, the only thing we have is a preview copy online

    • @zayya1673
      @zayya1673 4 года назад

      It’s really bad too

    • @agent_8167
      @agent_8167 4 года назад

      HEY I LOVE YOUR PROFILE PIC-

  • @D_N3214
    @D_N3214 4 года назад +92

    They most likely did the trailer in this way to hide min min's appearance for those who didn't get it with the ramen shop. If she had her mask and arms from the beginning there would not really be a hype buildup throughout the trailer. Thank you for pointing this out, nevertheless, and min min for the win win!

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +18

      You're right. It's just so silly to me that they'd break the rules like this.

    • @jefferyjeffery8024
      @jefferyjeffery8024 4 года назад +6

      @@Stanpai it's just so silly that people actually care

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +11

      @@jefferyjeffery8024 and yet you are here watching the video and commenting ✨

    • @joltixer3099
      @joltixer3099 4 года назад

      Ninko is that not what everyone here, including the creator of the video is doing? Oh ok then

  • @JKDrixter
    @JKDrixter 4 года назад +38

    In the trailer you can see that the mask comes down from her bandana originally hiding the mask, in arms you just needed to wear the mask. It never said it had to be covering your eyes

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 4 года назад +7

      Yeah but that dosent explain way her arms look normal in the tráiler before the transformation

    • @JKDrixter
      @JKDrixter 4 года назад +2

      @@Pablo_Martin_aa because she had the mask beneath the bandana in the beginning

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 4 года назад +8

      @@JKDrixter no, the mask ONLY alows you to control the arms(AKA what we see the fighters do in the game and also coil there arms back to make then work like normal arms) ingame lore never says that they can deactivate arms ability and have normal arms

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 4 года назад +4

      But like the guy in the video says this whas just a mistake on purpose to add mistery to the reveal trailer

    • @alejandrogomez1698
      @alejandrogomez1698 4 года назад +7

      @@Pablo_Martin_aa she could have easily be wearing skin color sleeves or something as a disguise.

  • @ARMSStudyLab
    @ARMSStudyLab 4 года назад +132

    The ARMS Community says “Hello!”
    As someone with over 1,500 Hours in ARMS, and loves making advanced Tech Videos on the game, I did notice these things pretty much right away. However, it doesn’t really bother me. Especially considering what this is supposed to be. If this was cutscene in the actual game ARMS, it would definitely be completely contrary to the estimated Lore, and wouldn’t make sense at all. But considering that this is a Reveal Trailer, with a Twist, I understand the decision to bend the rules a bit for the sake of the Twist.
    Either way, can’t wait to play as Min Min in Smash! 🥊

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +9

      Thanks, Teach! Really appreciate your content. Thanks for all you do!

    • @Amiibo21
      @Amiibo21 4 года назад +1

      I’ve never played Arms but I’m super hype to play as Min Min in smash bros!

    • @TurtleCraftZ1
      @TurtleCraftZ1 4 года назад +2

      Ehh, at the same time I wouldn't say there was a twist, as soon as the noodle shop showed everyone knew it was Min Min.

    • @lavilettenicolas8008
      @lavilettenicolas8008 4 года назад +2

      @@TurtleCraftZ1 No, some people don't know ARMS, I had no idea and I am sure other people too.

    • @reyblaster2003
      @reyblaster2003 4 года назад

      BOI

  • @shotgun6X
    @shotgun6X 4 года назад +73

    The only explanation: Min Min has gone through INTENSE TRAINING a la Goku in order to TRAIN the weaknesses of ARMS out of her

  • @Owliare
    @Owliare 4 года назад +43

    The life of an ARMS competitor makes death look like a blessing.

    • @omarreyes7626
      @omarreyes7626 4 года назад +1

      not really, in lore the grand prix competition made everyone with an arms ability a celebrity, they even get sponsorships, the ability is actually quite desired in the ARMS universe.

  • @VivioSaf
    @VivioSaf 4 года назад +21

    something tells me that ... if there's another ARMS ... this mistake would be turned into a feature.

  • @kinglycrimson
    @kinglycrimson 4 года назад +67

    The springs can be activated and deactivated. The creators said so, and so did sakurai

    • @followeroftheprince
      @followeroftheprince 4 года назад +20

      Checking if anyone mentioned, Sakurai was told that they got springy through some sort of special ARMS power, so it seems Sakurai had normal arms for the character when not using the special powers.

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 4 года назад +9

      Sakurai words dosent = to ingame lore

    • @EijiTheRonin
      @EijiTheRonin 4 года назад +9

      @@Pablo_Martin_aa they said CREATORS and Sakurai. Meaning yabuki would have helped to clear things up with Sakurai

    • @ikatulo_yt
      @ikatulo_yt 4 года назад +1

      Does anyone have a source on this?

    • @phantomblue2798
      @phantomblue2798 3 года назад +2

      A source would be appreciated.

  • @Micbro
    @Micbro 4 года назад +23

    Ultimately, I like how Min Min went from regular arms to ARMS in the trailer purely because they were able to distinguish the spiral eyes while she was transforming. I wonder if the entire transformation / reveal sequence is why they went with this lore change for just the trailer.

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +6

      Considering anyone who knows anything about ARMS could tell it was Min Min within the first 2 seconds, the whole reveal transformation was pointless anyway. Her entire identity is built around her noodles, literally it's why she joined the league- to promote her Ramen shop.

    • @seungkwanbot3203
      @seungkwanbot3203 4 года назад +1

      @@Stanpai nobody bought arms anyway

  • @300IQPrower
    @300IQPrower 4 года назад +52

    Guys chill he’s just saying that the trailer was super unfaithful to the lore, which is odd because all the other trailers were SUPER Lore faithful even for non nintendo franchises

    • @jamesv337
      @jamesv337 4 года назад +9

      Oh yes, Banjo and Kazooie specifically buried King K. Rool and not Gruntilda under a boulder 🙄

    • @jamesv337
      @jamesv337 4 года назад +9

      Also love the part in Dragon Quest XI where the Hero fights a bunch of darkness possessed Nintendo characters 😣🙄

    • @andrewbravo6152
      @andrewbravo6152 4 года назад +10

      James V Banjo and Kazooie already canonically exist in the Donkey Kong universe, so it’s not far fetched to say they would fight King K Rool, especially considering that Banjo is good friends with Diddy Kong.
      Hero (specifically the default one, Eleven) is known for fighting off darkness, and is specifically destined to do so. Dharkon is a physical manifestation of darkness, and the Nintendo characters were being controlled through darkness, so it makes sense that Eleven would fight something he’s destined to fight.

    • @RinZDR
      @RinZDR 4 года назад +9

      James V You could make this for every character BECAUSE ITS A CROSSOVER! And banjo burying k.rool is a reference to the ending of the first game, so get your facts right before talking shit buckaroo.

    • @300IQPrower
      @300IQPrower 4 года назад +7

      Its funny because both the Darknes powered Nintendo Characters and the K Rool burying are in fact explicit references to DQ11 and BK1

  • @Antasma1
    @Antasma1 4 года назад +16

    During the ARMS direct, it was even stated they just woke up with them one day. Springman: I was shocked at first, but having ARMS like these is actually pretty rad"

  • @waddledee873
    @waddledee873 4 года назад +20

    Well, if "joining smash consumes even the darkness itself" i guess it can also allow you to disable/enable your ARMS ability at will

    • @iike9498
      @iike9498 4 года назад +2

      Lmao

    • @JoZerpPL
      @JoZerpPL 4 года назад

      The reference...
      **edge of dawn intensifies**

  • @alleycatgaming5433
    @alleycatgaming5433 4 года назад +58

    You mentioned the comics, finally someone is paying attention to the actual lore it’s nice to see I’m not the only one who got it during free comic book day 😁

    • @alleycatgaming5433
      @alleycatgaming5433 4 года назад +3

      I also know the lok fandom might’ve noticed it...

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +6

      @@alleycatgaming5433 I actually never got the comic sadly, but I wish I had. I read it online later.

    • @babidi1772
      @babidi1772 4 года назад +1

      Stanpai Where do u read it?

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +2

      @@babidi1772 Look up the ARMS Comic and you'll find it quickly. Free comic book day issue.

  • @ShadowPillz
    @ShadowPillz 4 года назад +39

    Im so glad you brought this to attention cause when i saw min min's reveal trailer i was like wait normal arms , no spiral eyes and began to question if the mask does more cause it didnt line up with arms lore. I would wanna see all the characters with no mask and loose springy arms tho.

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +8

      Ah, an actual ARMS fan! Thank you for watching!

  • @amassuo6866
    @amassuo6866 4 года назад +70

    I've played Arms it's a very good game

  • @michaelschaeffer6936
    @michaelschaeffer6936 4 года назад +40

    I dont remember it ever explicitly saying that ARMS were permanent. Plus whos to say this isnt a special ability of hers, to switch? I mean, Twintelle uses her hair, not actual ARMS. Or maybe this is her orgin story, and her ARMS awakened in this trailer?

    • @aaronjones6299
      @aaronjones6299 4 года назад +11

      Well not permanent the arms still look similar to there long parts when they are normal as seen with the art in the game where spring man's arms are still blue and look to have coiled up. So her arms being normal is still wrong.

    • @jadenjerries2094
      @jadenjerries2094 4 года назад +2

      you're stretching it, dude

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +16

      @@jadenjerries2094 that's what ARMS do

    • @Mass717
      @Mass717 4 года назад +3

      You must be a character in arms because good lord you’re stretching

    • @Urielv59
      @Urielv59 4 года назад +6

      actually in this tweet twitter.com/ARMS_Cobutter/status/871683525866430465 it's stated that their masks stabilize their ARMS allowing the spiral form. if they take their masks off their arms can return to normal. and Min Min only gets her ARMS when she puts her mask on.

  • @xasz41
    @xasz41 4 года назад +5

    FINALLY! THIS STUFF WAS BUGGING ME SO MUCH , I’M SO GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED!

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 4 года назад +60

    Every thought there were a lot of mistakes in this trailer I thought it was a very fun trailer.
    Never knew I need to see captain falcon and kirby eat ramen but now I'm happy I saw it.

    • @professorparabeetle
      @professorparabeetle 4 года назад +1

      You? Again? Change your profile picture, it’s just creepy.

    • @thevioletskull8158
      @thevioletskull8158 4 года назад +3

      Falcon in the server outfit is great too

    • @bowserwithpants9764
      @bowserwithpants9764 4 года назад +1

      The Trio of being in every comment section:
      Christopher Moon
      edge lord
      Pyroking

    • @Muchinger
      @Muchinger 4 года назад

      And the Guy without Mustache

    • @agent7103
      @agent7103 4 года назад

      Bro, I must be quite unlucky, I see you on so many different videos in the comments.

  • @raidenstokes1026
    @raidenstokes1026 4 года назад +19

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that, I thought I just didn’t understand arms lore like i thought I did

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +2

      Turns out it was them who didn't.

    • @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057
      @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057 4 года назад +2

      @@Stanpai mmmm actually I think they do, I don´t see this as a mistake , more like intended, I don´t think the team and sakurai wouldn´t know about this, I mean it´s their job, at first I noticed it too, but in the end I think they did it this way for the sake of the narrative of the trailer.

  • @guyk768
    @guyk768 4 года назад +43

    This was very interesting. Thanks for explaining the ARMS lore.

  • @thatoneguywhoowns2cats704
    @thatoneguywhoowns2cats704 4 года назад +6

    Can we just agree that Falcon sharing his voice with Vegeta compensates for it all

  • @flameohotman4320
    @flameohotman4320 4 года назад +5

    Okay but I think the whole point was to keep the identity of Min Min a secret for the pacing and reveal of her addition in the trailer, for the people who didn't know it was obviously her when Falcon and Kirby were eating ramen

  • @Dumbsourplum
    @Dumbsourplum 4 года назад +3

    Maybe Min Min Was picked because She has this Ability To switch

  • @alioness-w-noregrets7471
    @alioness-w-noregrets7471 4 года назад +5

    The only best excuse that I could come up with for this oversight is the fact that Covid is causing a lot of trouble for everyone, so it may be possible that a creation flaw was overlooked simply because of the lack of communication between workers. Not to be a naysayer, but it has caused a lot of things to miscommunicate. Heck, I work in a hospital and while we don't have our normal work ethic right now, what work we do have is always changing every other day as far as rules and restrictions. So with that, I can see miscommunication being a contributing factor to this flaw in the trailer.

  • @alexandercannon6873
    @alexandercannon6873 4 года назад +5

    I didn’t know this and it’s very interesting that such a contradiction exists, but tbh I would take this to mean Nintendo and the arms director are ret-conning that part of the ARMS canon. That, or, as someone else said, Min Min got her ARMS ability BY receiving the invitation. The Smash letter is what gave her those powers and acted as some kind of catalyst?

  • @MewoisSleepDeprived
    @MewoisSleepDeprived 4 года назад +3

    uh, its canon in arms that the characters can make there arms normal if they want

  • @-Unidentified_Comment-
    @-Unidentified_Comment- 4 года назад +7

    Not to mention the fact that in the gameplay her charged up dragon laser has a blue spiral wrapped around it unlike the red one in Arms

  • @alexanderchon9058
    @alexanderchon9058 4 года назад +2

    You call it it a mistake, I call it "head cannon is a Expansion to the ARMS lore" that people who has the spiral arm trait can willingly hide it and if they are to be in the ARMS league they can show it.

  • @Apocalypso64
    @Apocalypso64 4 года назад +10

    See, I just thought that they had normal arms when not wearing their mask, so I didn't pick up on it. I didn't realize it was a permanent modification.
    Also, your name is absolutely glorious!

  • @AlphaStoutland
    @AlphaStoutland 4 года назад +4

    I honestly didn't catch this, even as a fan of ARMS. It's been quite some time since I've played the game (Animal Crossing being a large reason for that), and I was unaware of the "their arms are permanent" lore. Thanks for the informative video!

  • @miempire9198
    @miempire9198 4 года назад +2

    I’M GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED!!! but tbh I wasn’t bothered by it, because tbh this “new lore” made more sense, you can tell even the writers of the ARMS lore back then had no idea what to do with the lore

  • @garamoth97
    @garamoth97 4 года назад +5

    Seems to be a creative choice to allow for a cool transformation and hide her identity from those unfamiliar with the game. It is also likely that the Smash team didn’t really talk to the ARMS team about the lore and may not have known these things in detail.

  • @Delta-lu5kf
    @Delta-lu5kf 4 года назад +13

    Theres two huge holes in your argument.
    For one, you never cite anything for your claim that the ARMS can turn back into regular arms. None of the stills you provide even indicate as such. I even checked up on ARMS lore myself and, from what I could find, there's nothing that directly supports the claim that ARMS can't turn back into regular arms.
    But let's assume this is 100% factual. Even if this is the case, you shot yourself in the foot. Wouldn't the lack of a mask, spiral eyes and ARMS in the trailer imply that this is Min Min's awakening to ARMS? Everything seems to line up perfectly for that possibility, it even explains why Min Min wasn't in the tournament and would also give the trailer a small plot. It genuinely seems like you actively ignored this possibility to further bolster your argument.

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 4 года назад +2

      Dude,
      1. Thats not how it works(onest u get the spirel eyes and arms the ARMS company made a mask for the person to control the arms ability(IT MEANS YOU CAN ONLY CONTROL THE ARMS NOT TURN THEN BACK TO NORMAL U CANT DO THAT)
      2. The video just said that the mask only alow you to control and coil them back so they work like normal arms
      3. All of the info that says that is in the game

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 4 года назад +1

      He dosent cite info because its all on the game

    • @Delta-lu5kf
      @Delta-lu5kf 4 года назад +3

      @@Pablo_Martin_aa Your first two rebuttals aren't even clear as to what they're addressing so I'm going to ignore them for now.
      As for your third point, as someone who actually took debate and is very serious about the debate process, that statement physically hurt me. You always, ALWAYS, need to cite something when presenting a point as factual, this is basic 6th grade writing. And there was a very clear attempt in the video at around 1:30, but the still provided in the video doesn't even address the whole "can't turn back into normal arms" thing. And if it is in the game, why not, y'know, actually provide a clear indicator of that piece of information? Surely it's possible if what you say is true. Just saying "it's in the game" does nothing to support your claim, where in the game? What is the exact line? Despite the hiwever, I couldn't even find the information on the official wiki, something is clearly not adding up.

    • @justsomewoomywithamustache4481
      @justsomewoomywithamustache4481 4 года назад +1

      @@Delta-lu5kf In the labs confidential 5 artwork, it says, directly quoted "The arms ability often emerges overnight, with those affected discovering their transformation upon waking up."

    • @pty80
      @pty80 4 года назад +1

      Its also in the Comic dude

  • @yeahmaybe1177
    @yeahmaybe1177 4 года назад +2

    Who's to say this isn't a universe where she unlocked the ARMS ability after grabbing the letter? She got the swirl right after her arms changed, and we never see her change back.

  • @Creepo_J
    @Creepo_J 4 года назад +8

    Yeah, I was confused why she had normal human arms when she is supposed to have compressed noodle arms in its retracted form.
    Also, without their masks, they won't be able to control their arms and they would just unravel and flop on the floor. Min Min should've been seen wearing the mask already in the beginning.

    • @frycry360solidslade5
      @frycry360solidslade5 4 года назад +1

      Bro he said machina doesnt have arms even though she in a mech also she can be see in some art with human arms btw

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J 4 года назад +1

      @@frycry360solidslade5
      Bruh

    • @Wiziliz
      @Wiziliz 4 года назад

      Min Min's ARMS ability awakens in this trailer.

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J 4 года назад

      @@Wiziliz
      You aren't understanding

  • @phantomblue2798
    @phantomblue2798 4 года назад +3

    Smash is already filled with misconceptions anyway, but I still don't think that gives it permission to add anymore. This video was spot on with that little ARMS mishap.

    • @ssjgotenks2009
      @ssjgotenks2009 4 года назад

      dude sakreuai dont need prpeissmion he do what hell he wwna with msahsd he said so the mak wkr him slef to nar deaht to mske this game plase you gans you btih a sya he dont havre permssion eh do wha eh wants leave him alone smahs vurse is the soem vunrus as the gakme the charaer come form so rules dont aply mtuvlse vore ruels you with there rules

    • @phantomblue2798
      @phantomblue2798 3 года назад

      @signerleo snyder actually he kinda do needs permission from other companies how to handle their characters, even if they are not third-party. The copyright system is a very strict system, and if the companies wanted they can give Sakurai a complaint for anything about their property's representation and the team will have no choice but to go along with the complaint. Don't get tired because "I'm one of those Smash fans who ask for a lot." And remember, Sakurai is not the only one who made this game too. His whole development team takes credit too.

  • @tymgus45old23
    @tymgus45old23 4 года назад +2

    I love this video so much. This is exactly how I felt about most of online reactions. Some people who haven't played arms figured out that it was going to be Min Min, but it's only because there was a lot of speculation around her. For example if trailer began with Captain Falcon playing V-Ball with Kirby on Buster Beach, would then anybody have guessed that Byte and Barq was joining the smash? If you have played arms before then maybe...
    So glad I'm not the only one who noticed human arms on Min Min

  • @phantomblue2798
    @phantomblue2798 3 года назад +1

    At this point I'm really not surprised, because not only you have a game where Min min suddenly "gains" the ARMS power, but also a game where Joker can use a spell without a Persona, Byleth somehow having the 3 respective houses' relics, Mewtwo being a lightweight, Jigglypuff's Rest not healing it, Robin using Nonfuratsu without the dark mage class, Snake not carrying at least 1 firearm, Greninja's Hydro pump only dealing 2 - 4% damage max, Megaman not changing into different colors based off the Robot Masters, Pac-Man not speaking (really), Ness knowing moves that he's not supposed to know himself, and probably some more too.

  • @bluexix
    @bluexix 4 года назад +8

    Sorry, I just don't see where you get that the ARMS ability can't be deactivated
    Yes, they get the ability randomly but nowhere in the images shown says that they can't be deactivated
    And if the ability isn't activated obviously they won't have spirals in their eyes nor will need the mask to control their normal arms

    • @dr.vegito
      @dr.vegito 4 года назад +2

      I agree with this

  • @Supasmartguy
    @Supasmartguy 4 года назад +12

    I noticed this instantly, and was worried that no one else was going to talk about it.

  • @kdjets
    @kdjets 4 года назад +2

    Technically they can coil and uncoil arms it's just uncontrollable without the mask. You could technically have an ARMS user without the mask that happens to have control in the moment. That said, It doesn't explain why Min Min had regular human looking arms and also no spiral-shaped eyes. what's telling is the ignored lore for the initial reveal but as soon as she's back in the ramen shop they actually do follow how the lore says she should look with her arm coiled and everything. They just broke the rules to conceal her at the beginning. I don't really have a big problem with that but it does do weird things with the lore.

  • @thespeedyyoshi
    @thespeedyyoshi 4 года назад +1

    Oh. I thought that the mask gave them their special ARMS and then this trailer demonstrated that perfectly. Must've been some rough translation I saw. Interesting.

  • @KingZolem
    @KingZolem 4 года назад +16

    Also a good reason they used Minmin I didn't see you mentikn: she won the community event and as such is the character that canonically won the tournament.

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +3

      This wasn't about that. It would certainly have helped to specify that for the sake of all the people crying about why it was min min though.

    • @KingZolem
      @KingZolem 4 года назад +1

      @@Stanpai I understand that. But I figured since you were correcting things it would also help to clear up the "because the director said so or else they'd have used the more popular *insert favorite here*" arguments. More info for those less familiar with the series would always be helpful.

  • @Mochiino
    @Mochiino 4 года назад +1

    I knew it! I am a nerd and I pay attention to the lore in almost every game, and it bothered me that her arms weren’t coiled at the beginning. Glad I wasn’t the only person to notice 😅

  • @grandimations7309
    @grandimations7309 4 года назад +1

    ARMS characters: Please don't take off my mask.
    Joker: .. Revealing dark?

    • @Youafent
      @Youafent 4 года назад

      show me your true form!

  • @TheeMaxMan
    @TheeMaxMan 4 года назад +15

    ARMS: But what about our lore?
    Sakurai: I don't care about you lore.
    Min Min: NOT WHEN IM JOINING SMASH!

  • @StomeAura
    @StomeAura 2 года назад +1

    My take on it (Although it’s a very very odd theory) is that these reveal trailers aren’t just reveal trailers in our universe, but also in the Smash Bros. Universe. What I’m basically saying is that the fighters have activities outside of actual games and have their own dorms and stuff like that, and they also gather up to see the trailer, too. Basically seeing who’s gonna be joining the Smash Bros. Roster, and the trailers are probably fake and were shot like a movie. They probably had to use prop arms to put over her actual arms, so that they could be hidden and have just a tiny bit more surprise not just to our universe, but the Smash Bros. Universe as well.

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  2 года назад +1

      The F-Zero GX theory.

  • @ebthebluealt
    @ebthebluealt 4 года назад +1

    The ARMS of an Arms fighter only appear whiile they are wearing a mask.
    Just to clarify

  • @olfelx2
    @olfelx2 4 года назад +3

    The smash bros. "canon" is often if not always completely different to how it is within their own series. Things like this happen all the time, so it's not that out of the ordinary. It's not a mistake, it's just an adaptation of the canon to make it make at least some sense within smash bros. for example, arsene never gives joker wings in persona 5, but it's an adaptation of an in-game quote to make it fit into smash bros. Good video tho.

  • @aidensmith5113
    @aidensmith5113 4 года назад +3

    I think it’s either misinterpretation or just an excuse for Min Min to have an awesome superhero transformation. Either way, Smash has been known to take creative liberties here and there, so I can forgive it.

  • @summermermaidstar756
    @summermermaidstar756 4 года назад +1

    Maybe it's an alternative timeline, notice the stage they are playing on in the finale is not in fact the final stage of the tournament.
    Similar to how Smash Corrin isn't the same Corrin canonical to the Fire Emblem timelines, and is instead a Smash representation of the character.

    • @sonio1920
      @sonio1920 4 года назад

      Exactly.
      Min min from Arms isn't the same character as Min Min in Smash.
      They might share similar backstory but in Smash the characters are representatives of said individual character.
      People always complain about inaccuracy of characters like Ganondorf or Sonic. But they are not the same as their incarnations of their origin games.
      P.s i'm writing this while sleep deprived. I'll fix my grammar issues later.

  • @benshapiro4597
    @benshapiro4597 4 года назад +3

    Seeing kid cobra die gave me the big sad

  • @AlonzoTompkins
    @AlonzoTompkins 4 года назад +4

    Betting it was intentional to try and “hide” who the reveal was.

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +1

      "Don't worry, the fans won't notice the contradictions"
      But then we did

    • @stranger0-00
      @stranger0-00 4 года назад

      Not a stretch to say that's probably a part of it, yeah.

    • @agent7103
      @agent7103 4 года назад

      It didn't really work that well, after all, I've seen many youtubers recognize her JUST BECAUSE of the noodle shop.

  • @BarlicGread1
    @BarlicGread1 4 года назад +1

    The mask is supposed to help control the ARMS. She wasn't wearing the mask, so her arms should've sprang around crazily. Also, the consealed arms still look like a spring, but compressed, so her arms shouldn't have looked like that.

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад

      Exactly!

    • @BarlicGread1
      @BarlicGread1 4 года назад

      Either a spring or a tied up noodle.

  • @Polaii_
    @Polaii_ 4 года назад +3

    I didn't play arms, but what if min min never had arms and it was at that exact moment when she got it?
    I dunno, just a theory...

  • @OrangeToadGamer
    @OrangeToadGamer 4 года назад +1

    To be honest I wouldn't even know this if I didn't get into the Arms lore before Min Min got announced

  • @ChaosNew
    @ChaosNew 4 года назад

    That's so cool to see that others enjoyed the game as much as I did! Cool vid!

  • @yukkuri_ender
    @yukkuri_ender 4 года назад +2

    -Captain Falcon never ate Ramen in F Zero.-

  • @julianx2rl
    @julianx2rl 4 года назад +1

    I did notice the skinny arms, the artwork always show them using coiled arms.
    But because I never played ARMS, I didn't know about anything else.

  • @everfree1992
    @everfree1992 2 года назад +1

    Honestly, I didn't think that there was anything wrong with the trailer. I thought the transformation sequence was pretty cool.

  • @16ktsgamma
    @16ktsgamma 4 года назад +2

    Well then ARMS lore.
    Yeah I'm gonna put it in. the Min Min tells her own story of how she got her ARMS infront of Kirby while Captain Falcon is serving noodles to her.

  • @jumnei5159
    @jumnei5159 4 года назад +2

    I like to think that that's how she used to look before getting ARMS

    • @Daniel328DT
      @Daniel328DT 4 года назад +1

      Well she's 18 years old. She might have had normal arms when she was younger.

    • @jumnei5159
      @jumnei5159 4 года назад

      @@Daniel328DT yeah
      Kid cobra was the only one born without normal human arms... right?

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад

      Of the main cast, yes.

  • @francisco2759
    @francisco2759 4 года назад +1

    That is not an error :v
    ARMS is the ability that some humans have, and thanks to that, they can transform their arms into springs.

  • @eddsworlddangenrompagachal3644
    @eddsworlddangenrompagachal3644 4 года назад +1

    What if this was before she even had her ARMS the transformation makes more sense looking at it from that angle

  • @NintenJoeGamer
    @NintenJoeGamer 4 года назад +2

    Idk, to make the accusation of "I wish people would stop pretending to be hyped for views when they don't know anything about the character" seems kinda silly. People just like to see a new character, especially one that looks cool gameplay wise.

    • @ssjgotenks2009
      @ssjgotenks2009 4 года назад

      torll who gib whsi ifd youy dont know the chaarat you stele be hyped if charater loosl who hell are you to anyt they cna be hyep it not fakein be hyped you no ntonig

  • @rddchicken3201
    @rddchicken3201 4 года назад +3

    It’s weird how you notice these little things it makes sense that you were make a video on it but honestly if it’s a mistake who cares

  • @Luk-qi1es
    @Luk-qi1es 4 года назад

    Spring man right before getting punched:
    *oh these are pretty cool bananas*

  • @THawkMedia
    @THawkMedia 4 года назад

    Falcon eating ramen is the most anime thing I've ever seen

  • @MarMar5654
    @MarMar5654 4 года назад

    It could be some new lore that the creators wanted to get out there maybe? Like, if you trained and attuned to your arms enough, you can revert them back to normal, and with min min being a expert fighter, she's able to master the changing of her arms

  • @horsebox5138
    @horsebox5138 4 года назад +1

    I thought it wasnt permanent and you could turn them on or off?

  • @alejandrogomez1698
    @alejandrogomez1698 4 года назад +1

    I read someone say that she was actually wearing her mask behind her bandana and my guess is that she was wearing skin color sleeves to make her coiled arms look normal.

  • @loley975
    @loley975 4 года назад +1

    Your content is great dude, this video especially made realize why exactly I'm following you. It's not just your voice and that I find you quite attractive, but also you actually care about the stuff you're posting. Keep doing your great work, I'm sure as time goes on you'll get more followers and recognition as you deserve. =)

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад

      Thank you for the incredibly flattering compliments. I appreciate your support. It's true, typically I create things because I care about them. When I don't care, it becomes difficult to make things I can believe are worth making.

  • @swwetsour7697
    @swwetsour7697 4 года назад

    Her mask was probably under that thing on her head. Double concealment for her ARMS. The mask to keep them in humanoid shape, and that hair piece that covers the mask. Then during the trailer when she "activates" her ARMS, the mask drops for dramatic effect. Least that's how I interpreted it.

  • @jrcsmash2150
    @jrcsmash2150 4 года назад +1

    I thought something was off after seeing her without the mask. But I sort of forgot some of the ARMS lore so I wasn’t sure. Thanks for reminding me.

  • @boltowl625
    @boltowl625 4 года назад

    If I see a reveal trailer of minecraft Steve mining diamonds with a gold pickaxe I’m going to go MENTAL.

  • @thetraplord1564
    @thetraplord1564 4 года назад +4

    Deepest lore

  • @COOL1nate
    @COOL1nate 4 года назад

    Min Min not wearing her mask at the beginning of the trailer was one of the factors that made me believe Dr. Coyl was the rep we were getting.

  • @swampbottom1109
    @swampbottom1109 4 года назад

    I heard someone on Instagram say that Min Min looked like an octoling before she transformed, and she kinda does

  • @masterofadapting
    @masterofadapting 4 года назад

    The thing that makes this trailer have no problems is the fact that we all know captain falcon invited Kirby to that ramen noodle shop which means captain falcon and Kirby hang out like this

  • @bl6973
    @bl6973 4 года назад

    Having a guess that min min did something (like meditating for who knows how long) to swap her arms back and forth. Or she just have a drawer full of flesh colored sleeves and that she can still keep her arms intact without the mask

  • @LinneRinne
    @LinneRinne 4 года назад +10

    It's pretty cool to be honest, seems like ARMS has really interesting lore, and I would love to know more about it, but, also, let's remember Smash it's not canon and things change, everything Smash related it's not inherently part of the character.

    • @VivioSaf
      @VivioSaf 4 года назад +5

      Well ... Byleth can't really fly around with the weapons following her, but no one is complainning.

    • @aidensmith5113
      @aidensmith5113 4 года назад +2

      The Koopalings can’t turn into Shadow Mario outside of Smash either. In Super Mario Sunshine, Bowser Jr. wears a different bandana to transform into Shadow Mario.

    • @ssjgotenks2009
      @ssjgotenks2009 4 года назад

      @@VivioSaf dude byleyh could if she wanted she ahs pwore ifg godess dude when pwoer to make lfie you pwoer to give soem abity to fly evey thing sothsi sjut give her that abity for smash

    • @ssjgotenks2009
      @ssjgotenks2009 4 года назад

      worng smahs is cnaon mtuvls ruels it cnaon so sotp

    • @LinneRinne
      @LinneRinne 4 года назад

      @@VivioSaf No no but, like, I said it because well, there's a lot of people who ignore that.

  • @crypto8989
    @crypto8989 4 года назад +1

    Give the guys a break they had to work from home, they are trying thier hardest

  • @pridifygaming1114
    @pridifygaming1114 4 года назад

    Found this video randomly just now, but so glad I did! I didn't notice it immediately, but it just dawned on me on my 3rd rewatch of the reveal trailer that Min Min's arms were normal, and wondered how such an error made it in.
    And then I randomly found your video and you covered it perfectly with source images from the game's lore and all that :) Well made! Your voice is natural and pleasing, and the video was really genuine and I loved your honest rant on youtube reaction videos at the end, haha.
    I've seen a comment saying how it could be a dramatization of her origins, and honestly, that does make sense, as she has her coiled up ARMS at the end of the video as well. Sakurai tends to use creative liberty where he's allowed, but at the same time he's very meticulous on respecting the lores of games wherever he can. He even mentions in the presentation video that he saw Min Min using her legs to kick away _projectiles_ in a video or something in order to justify the deflect move in smash.
    Still, it might've been a genuine mistake that got overlooked. But he did speak with the game's producer, Mr. Yabuki, so he must've been told of the lore or Yabuki must've said something if he was consulted to review the reveal trailer.
    Anyhow, I'm just rambling now. Good video :)!

  • @Wiziliz
    @Wiziliz 4 года назад

    Min Min's ARMS are like that not as a mistake, guy. Look at her eyes, too. She, in the context of this trailer, doesn't have the ARMS phenomenon, until the Smash invitation catch pushes her too. It's beautiful. I'm a long time ARMS fan, and I think seeing a character gain their ARMS for the first time (with the eyes also swirling up and everything), makes it perfect. Her powers manifest upon the idea of joining Smash, it's so goddamn nice.
    The trailer has so much soul and love, you just missed what the idea of its story is. This "flaw" is actually one of the things that helps this be one of my absolute favourite trailers.
    I love ARMS, as someone who's also been involved with the game and its lore since near the beginning, this trailer's as good as it can be, honestly.

  • @amadax780
    @amadax780 4 года назад +2

    Never played ARMS, but perhaps, thats how she got her ARMS?

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +3

      No. It is an overnight phenomenon like Kafka's Metamorphosis. That or you're born with it.

    • @2006man
      @2006man 4 года назад

      That would mean all Nintendo franchises share the same universe, which we already know isn't the case.

    • @Daniel328DT
      @Daniel328DT 4 года назад

      Min Min gained her ARMS possibly during a time working in a Ramen Shop. Some of their abilities manifest into the closest things they share affinity with. So in Min Min's case, she didn't start to realize the change until she got older and it became a part of her. Smash trailers never make any real sense to the established lore because it's supposed to be about who the character is and their role in some form through the game.

  • @Pikazilla
    @Pikazilla 3 года назад

    I think that retconning the ARMS ability to be a transformation would be a good idea. It can be assumed that someone who mastered their ARMS ability has more control over this mutation.

  • @maaxorus
    @maaxorus 4 года назад +1

    Man, I have to get back into ARMS, see what I've missed since the updates.

  • @Lucky-Nick123
    @Lucky-Nick123 4 года назад

    I didn't pay attention on this details but developers put it like that to make the trailer more interesting

  • @duncanchin
    @duncanchin 4 года назад +1

    The whole point is that she was a normal person and at the moment she got her invitation she transformed for the first time into a arms fighter because she was really exited

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +2

      That's a cute piece of fanfiction but it completely goes against the lore.

  • @nameforcomments4092
    @nameforcomments4092 4 года назад

    All I know is, if they do a sequel, there'd better be a character who fights with his mustache.

  • @hylianmt9970
    @hylianmt9970 4 года назад +2

    Omg! I didn't know about this :0 Now I want to see Arms's gallery! 💖

    • @Stanpai
      @Stanpai  4 года назад +2

      It's phenomenal. The art pieces are so well drawn and really capture the soul of the game. It keeps you coming back.

  • @mr.potatoboi2188
    @mr.potatoboi2188 4 года назад +1

    Wait a minute what if it’s her awakening her arms power?

  • @cjthebeast1169
    @cjthebeast1169 4 года назад

    I think in the presentation Sakurai said that they can activate the ability when ever they please, so they don’t always have the slinkies. I could be wrong though but I swear he said something along those lines.
    If not then he must’ve misunderstood the director