Fair because all classes that relate to swords just get Swords..... Other than mage and paladin And well death knight Just boring But hey I ain't complaining at least broxigar's axe didn't suck from sageras's sword so I'm guessing it's still OP
As always Nobel, I appreciate you're wrapping up lore questions. Leveling all the different classes to experience their campaigns and artifacts is alot of work, but their individual stories answer so many questions, (Neptulon, Koltaria, Rexxar, Garona etc).
〈The Nickname〉 thats stupid.If anything sylvanas is much more of a bitch here considering that Odyn is now a jovial lava bearded santa after what seems like a millenia of being imprisoned.He wouldve just helped her had she even try to talk with him.
That is likely. They never really explained how or why she decided this was a good Idea, but she probably decided to make the deal with Helya because she related to her and her dilemma.
Speculation: The fact that Vigfus says the same thing as Arthas might point in the direction that it is the val'kyr manipulating Sylvanas. Arthas died with val'kyr nearby (more or less I guess) and says: "I see only darkness before me." Sylvanas dies with val'kyr nearby and experiences some kind of hell with pure darkness (where she see's Arthas). Vigfus died being watched by the first of the val'kyr (maybe the leader, didn't quite get if that was the case), and not only does he use the same qoute as Arthas, but he also seem to tell Helya: "no". (Might be just a outroar I know). Helya also yells: "Your torment will be unending!". The val'kyr might have this kind of hell that they can use, by snatching peoples souls as they die. They would use it on Arthas if they were pissed at him for enslaving them. They might put Sylvanas in the same hell because they saw a potential for using her somehow, and at last Vigful pisses of the first Val'kyr by failing, so she sends his soul to hell personally! Any thoughts on this? Am I crazy or is this possible?
Warriors artifacts were the most rushed among all classes hands down, they feel so underwhelming compared to the others, it's a class that had so much potential there was so many warriors with great powerful weapons in the world of warcraft universe (Varian Wyrnn, Broxigar, garrosh, muradin and many more) and all we get is a rushed up story about some wannabe vikings i'm so disappointed of what they did to my favourite class..
eddwarriior oh, that fascinating lore or yore, like "we swing weapons" and "we scream at our enemies". Warrior campaign and lore is in much better state now.
Personally i would have loved to see the arms spec with the Cenarius axe from broxigar and the fury warrior with Shalla'tor & Ellemayne from varian wrynn
Can you do the shadow priest weapon next? I love it so much when she whispers to me at bosses of the Emerald Nightmare or just letting out a after I kill a hordie and call it boring.
would love it if you gave uthalesh some of your love and lore bits. As affliction most people tend to just go for skull or staff of sargeras. We need love too.
Alright who thinks that Warriors should've got Shalamayne as one of their artefacts Like come on, Warlocks got the blade of the black empire paladins got the ashbringer for the lights sake i can't lie the scale of the earth warder was kinda cool bc deathwing But Still! It would've been sick if we got to wield The Sword of Varian Wryn Ik the storyline now in shadowlands requires Shalamayne but I'd reckon it would've been cool if we got the weapon.
So, if Helya sealed Odyn and his champions in Halls of Valor, how come players can get in and out whenever he/she wants? What is the lore justification?
I kinda like the Warswords of Valajar. They may not be as famous as Varian's sword(s), but at least they look nice. I'm planning on doing this quest with my night elf fury warrior in the future.
Souls likely enter the shadowlands upon dying. This would explain why the Valkyr can bring the dead back. It is possible for the scourge to have had the same connection to the shadowlands since the legion could of bound ice crown to it.
I'm noticing you were dying a lot in this video (particularily at the beginning.) So I guess the damage is a bit overtuned. When I did this I was on low health constantly. I did find it fitting for a fury warrior to fight and push on even as death was closing in though. On a different note: I feel like you lose a part of the artifact quests if you do it in a different spec than it's intended for.
Arcane mage and frost DKs along with the aforementioned fury warrior were the quests that hit a little too hard. Fury warrior was the only one of those I did at 100. Arcane was a chore, the first things in the dungeon killed me once, the mid boss got me killed and the final killed me twice until the third time he decided to just sit there and let me blast him to oblivion (my choice of word being fitting considering what you're fighting).
Ploppman I died a thousands time when getting my artifact for Arcane Mage. And it became worse when I realized that the weapon was corrupted * It wants us to explore Dalaran as it whispers to us* / when getting my fire artifact I needed to do it as Arcane simply to counter so I didn't die. / But mages overall seem really weak in Legion. I have just started in Suramar and can't even get killed some simple mobs...
+Kallik SeekersThe Arcane weapon is not corrupted its just the pure Arcane being we get the energy from is not a fan of mortal spellcasters also fire is still strong Suramar in general is not a great place for soloing if your not a tank
Is helya tainted by an old gods power? hence the tenticles and stuff? nz'goth seems to love that design lol. Also nobble must be loving this legion lore! seeing as warlords had like no new stuff in it, he can go to town on all this
It would have been sweet if Helya commented on the warswords when you fight her in Maw of Souls as a fury warrior, similar to the first boss in Darkheart Thicket for druids. Sadly she's got nothing special to say, she's just pissed.
About what Bladewind said when he died, well, where do you think Arthas went after finally dying? He was using Valkyr(blue ones; Helya's servants) to raise dead for him after all, maybe it was Helya who pulled the strings, hell even Sylvanas used them... what's goin' on? ._.
Nobo So he can talk about the creepy sounding weapon and that it is trying to get us to explode Dalaran! :D / Me and my Guild confirmed that Aluneth is working with the Legion!/
I think blizzard just likes certain quotes. It seems like everybody really only has like maybe 5 or 10 lines they constantly repeat with a few random sentences in between sometimes.
I'd like to see these warswords clash with the blades of Athena/exile. Also is bladewind looks like rob zombie which is pretty cool. And odyn being a dick not surprised there lol!
you know i think the blades should have one with purple glow while the other with orange to better show that these two blades are blessed by both helya and odyn
u know it maybe just be me but it looked like you were getting you're ass kicked as a warrior more than for any other class i've seen you play in a vid. was it cause u played fury warrior or cus u played a gnome warrior?
I want to see the Loa, Bwonsamdi in particular being mad as fuck at Helya for stealing his souls, new troll/loa raid when! would be cool as fuck if we saw a raid where to factions where clashing on a grand scale inside the instance while we assisted cleaned up bosses
We killed ingvar in utgarde keep right? There should be a pic or something you can use as a visual of him there. You said vigfus says the same thing as Arthas, did you mean Helya?
mrspidey80 It would make sense. How many people in WoW have the same name and yet not the same person? Not many maybe 5 at most if that. Remember the Val'kyr who brought him back when we killed him the first time around says something along the lines of "we are not yet finished or your missions is not yet done" implying that he can/or will come back.
So... can I join Sylvanas and help her strike a deal with Helya? I mean, Odyn is a complete asshole, and he's trapped in his halls, he's not using the Val'Kyr. Meanwhile, if we got control of them, the Forsaken would be heavily bolstered, more forces to fight the Legion, we start ressing our own troops, we drastically increase our chances of victory.
Is that how Helya is supposed to be pronounced? Helzsa? Helja? I thought it was similar to Ymir, with "Y" being "Ee". Eemir. Heleea. Or if Odyin is pronounced Odin, she would be Helia.
Anyone else felt kinda disappointed by the choice of swords. Felt like just another pair of swords to me. Would have liked Varian's weapons more, especially now that hes not using them. rip
These wouldn't be so bad if they weren't useless at lvl 120. There are 2 slots greyed out that I can't figure put how to unlock. This is what happens when you run a game with unnecessary mechanics. It makes the game way too tedious to enjoy.
nobbel a reson that helya help sylvanes is might that she want to ''libuate the valkures'' and take more revange on odin where she wants him to suffer for eternalty
I really dont like how all the beings made by the titans to protect azeroths are turning into bad and selfish guys. they should be the ones carrying on the will of the titans and do some good things on azeroth. but instead most of them have gotten selffish, seeking for terretory and power. :< Yes there are some cool stories here and there but i dont like the concept and it doesnt fit imo
I hate our artifact. its the worst. we couldve had gorehowl or something but no we got a new artifact that was never heard of before until legion. and paladins got ashbringer and warlocks got the scepter of sargeras and druids got the scythe of elune. what did we get. two crappy swords.
God can't the legion jsut invade once? This is like the 20th time. Edit: I was refering to the fact that he says: "The legion is invading us again" at the begging of most videos now... I put it here because I don't want to interrupt the discussion since it is developing well and might be interesting to read :P
+Gamzee Makara Yeah, because there wasn't any diversity in all the other MMO Worlds.... Sadly.... The Legion overtook the others. XD But still though, WTF. The Legion should've just sent their ships (Maybe all of them) to overwhelm us. My god.
The reason they never did before now was because they were busy everywhere else. x: that or the writers didnt think of it. One of the two take your pick.
I really don't like any of the Titan Keepers. They all seem so weak and petty for beings described to have great power and wisdom. Except of Freya. She's cool.
Sorry, Vigfus. Looks like you're gonna be *yet another* poor soul who'll be horribly tortured for all eternity. I'm starting to get a weird vibe from Blizzard...
That gnome literally destroys the epicness of the blades
Right xD
Really wish they would have done Broxigars axe for arms
Fair because all classes that relate to swords just get
Swords.....
Other than mage and paladin
And well death knight
Just boring
But hey I ain't complaining at least broxigar's axe didn't suck from sageras's sword so I'm guessing it's still OP
As always Nobel, I appreciate you're wrapping up lore questions. Leveling all the different classes to experience their campaigns and artifacts is alot of work, but their individual stories answer so many questions, (Neptulon, Koltaria, Rexxar, Garona etc).
These artifact story videos are great
I've never seen more player death scenes in a Nobbel video
As someone who mains warrior, there is no greater sin than that of a Gnome Warrior. Shame.
Lol, you are wrong... the gnome could be worse if he were a tank
Gnome warriors in general. And I don't think nobbel could tank.
Not maining a warrior anymore, but oh god yes.
Gnome has best alliance racial for warriors.
Dude, the greatest sin is to play any other class other than a warrior.
I find it mildly amusing that you're Arms doing the Fury quest xD
Possibly cause fury sux.
Might suck but visually coolest.
Yep
Yeah, getting a fury alt just for that reason :D
Stevan P Like, another character or getting it as a 2ndary artifact?
Now I feel like the bad guy for helping Odyn after hearing what happened to Helya
After watching this, Sylvanas trying to take over the Val'kyr seems a hell of a lot less evil.
〈The Nickname〉 thats stupid.If anything sylvanas is much more of a bitch here considering that Odyn is now a jovial lava bearded santa after what seems like a millenia of being imprisoned.He wouldve just helped her had she even try to talk with him.
That is likely. They never really explained how or why she decided this was a good Idea, but she probably decided to make the deal with Helya because she related to her and her dilemma.
〈The Nickname〉 more like greed really.
Nobbel literally just explained the reasons why Helya hated Odyn. Greed has absolutely nothing to do with it.
〈The Nickname〉 the greed part of my comment was reffering to Sylvanas.
so this is ninya and helja, nobbel is a bit mixed lol
I still have nightmares with ogre ninya
Hell yeah, it's Helya.
stop
Thank you for making these nobbel, no xpac has made me want to be an altoholic more than this one, and this makes it easier to decide.
love the videos man, keep up the good work.
Speculation:
The fact that Vigfus says the same thing as Arthas might point in the direction that it is the val'kyr manipulating Sylvanas.
Arthas died with val'kyr nearby (more or less I guess) and says: "I see only darkness before me."
Sylvanas dies with val'kyr nearby and experiences some kind of hell with pure darkness (where she see's Arthas).
Vigfus died being watched by the first of the val'kyr (maybe the leader, didn't quite get if that was the case), and not only does he use the same qoute as Arthas, but he also seem to tell Helya: "no". (Might be just a outroar I know).
Helya also yells: "Your torment will be unending!".
The val'kyr might have this kind of hell that they can use, by snatching peoples souls as they die. They would use it on Arthas if they were pissed at him for enslaving them. They might put Sylvanas in the same hell because they saw a potential for using her somehow, and at last Vigful pisses of the first Val'kyr by failing, so she sends his soul to hell personally!
Any thoughts on this? Am I crazy or is this possible?
Upskirt shot of Oydin?.....Ok
LMAO ikr?
Warriors artifacts were the most rushed among all classes hands down, they feel so underwhelming compared to the others, it's a class that had so much potential there was so many warriors with great powerful weapons in the world of warcraft universe (Varian Wyrnn, Broxigar, garrosh, muradin and many more) and all we get is a rushed up story about some wannabe vikings i'm so disappointed of what they did to my favourite class..
Have you seen the monk campaign? I think not.
warriors have been around since vanilla there's so much lore background behind them unlike monks
Glad they didn't give us the medivh artifact hunter copy pasta campaign.
eddwarriior oh, that fascinating lore or yore, like "we swing weapons" and "we scream at our enemies". Warrior campaign and lore is in much better state now.
Personally i would have loved to see the arms spec with the Cenarius axe from broxigar and the fury warrior with Shalla'tor & Ellemayne from varian wrynn
Can you do the shadow priest weapon next?
I love it so much when she whispers to me at bosses of the Emerald Nightmare or just letting out a after I kill a hordie and call it boring.
OOOOOO so that's y there are warriors dropping out of the sky
Yea, it's the upgraded version of Heroic Leap > Mythic Skydrop.
"Mythic Skydrop". That killed me.
Thanks that you put up eng subs for those deaf.
Your voice is just soooo damn pleasing to listen.
would love it if you gave uthalesh some of your love and lore bits. As affliction most people tend to just go for skull or staff of sargeras. We need love too.
You sure died a lot on the way through the artifact mission lol!
Guess he was still worthy in the eyes of Odyn. :D
I love your videos Nobbel :D
Alright who thinks that Warriors should've got Shalamayne as one of their artefacts
Like come on, Warlocks got the blade of the black empire
paladins got the ashbringer for the lights sake
i can't lie the scale of the earth warder was kinda cool bc deathwing
But Still! It would've been sick if we got to wield The Sword of Varian Wryn
Ik the storyline now in shadowlands requires Shalamayne but I'd reckon it would've been cool if we got the weapon.
So, if Helya sealed Odyn and his champions in Halls of Valor, how come players can get in and out whenever he/she wants? What is the lore justification?
Darnassil they are the one that is trapped.Not us.
Oh, ok.
I kinda like the Warswords of Valajar. They may not be as famous as Varian's sword(s), but at least they look nice. I'm planning on doing this quest with my night elf fury warrior in the future.
Nobbel,it's not "Helja",it's HeLYA.The same way it's not "Ninha" it's NinJA.Aside from that,great vid mat8 :3
Souls likely enter the shadowlands upon dying. This would explain why the Valkyr can bring the dead back. It is possible for the scourge to have had the same connection to the shadowlands since the legion could of bound ice crown to it.
I'm noticing you were dying a lot in this video (particularily at the beginning.) So I guess the damage is a bit overtuned. When I did this I was on low health constantly.
I did find it fitting for a fury warrior to fight and push on even as death was closing in though.
On a different note: I feel like you lose a part of the artifact quests if you do it in a different spec than it's intended for.
Many of the artifact quests seem overtuned above level 100. I had the same issue with my DK and DH. Even regular mobs hit like trucks.
Arcane mage and frost DKs along with the aforementioned fury warrior were the quests that hit a little too hard. Fury warrior was the only one of those I did at 100.
Arcane was a chore, the first things in the dungeon killed me once, the mid boss got me killed and the final killed me twice until the third time he decided to just sit there and let me blast him to oblivion (my choice of word being fitting considering what you're fighting).
Ploppman I died a thousands time when getting my artifact for Arcane Mage. And it became worse when I realized that the weapon was corrupted * It wants us to explore Dalaran as it whispers to us* / when getting my fire artifact I needed to do it as Arcane simply to counter so I didn't die. / But mages overall seem really weak in Legion. I have just started in Suramar and can't even get killed some simple mobs...
+Kallik SeekersThe Arcane weapon is not corrupted its just the pure Arcane being we get the energy from is not a fan of mortal spellcasters also fire is still strong Suramar in general is not a great place for soloing if your not a tank
next artifact suggestion, fel'o melorne or the dredblades
Is helya tainted by an old gods power? hence the tenticles and stuff? nz'goth seems to love that design lol. Also nobble must be loving this legion lore! seeing as warlords had like no new stuff in it, he can go to town on all this
are you going to do the story of the emerald nightmare?
its azeroth but red, the end.
emerald dream but red*
Can we get a video on Thunderaan and the lineage of Thunderfury please?
Nice video. Tnx mate
It would have been sweet if Helya commented on the warswords when you fight her in Maw of Souls as a fury warrior, similar to the first boss in Darkheart Thicket for druids. Sadly she's got nothing special to say, she's just pissed.
your accent is perfect for this.
About what Bladewind said when he died, well, where do you think Arthas went after finally dying? He was using Valkyr(blue ones; Helya's servants) to raise dead for him after all, maybe it was Helya who pulled the strings, hell even Sylvanas used them... what's goin' on? ._.
Is ingvar the ingvar from utgarde keep?
yes.
Do the Arcane Mage artifact next!
Nobo So he can talk about the creepy sounding weapon and that it is trying to get us to explode Dalaran! :D / Me and my Guild confirmed that Aluneth is working with the Legion!/
+Kallik Seekers lol xD
Someone has to destroy Dalaran.
they really need to buff fury warriors
And make Arms warriors less squishy as well as make protection a bit more fun
well done
oh that is totally Crispen Freeman voicing Vigfus
Is the Ingvarguy "Ingvar the plunderer" or who is it? I really wanna know
if you have the warswords when you get out of hellheim through the questline in stormheimm she screams that she will clame her swords
Why "Heljah", when even characters say "Helyah"?
Nobbel's pronounciations aren't always... right.
There is a video about the titan keepers where he pronounces her name correctly :D
I would say "seldomly right".)
Sounds about right, but then again even ingame they pronounce things in several different ways ^_^
U rock, Nobbel!
Why won't you finish the druid and do Scythe of Elune?
I think blizzard just likes certain quotes. It seems like everybody really only has like maybe 5 or 10 lines they constantly repeat with a few random sentences in between sometimes.
or arthas is now with helya
Hey @nobbel87 you should do the skull of man'ari artifact weapon! Please please please
I'd like to see these warswords clash with the blades of Athena/exile.
Also is bladewind looks like rob zombie which is pretty cool.
And odyn being a dick not surprised there lol!
Please tell me that you´ll do the shadow priest before you´ll do the arms warrior.
you know i think the blades should have one with purple glow while the other with orange to better show that these two blades are blessed by both helya and odyn
Scythe of Elune soon?
u know it maybe just be me but it looked like you were getting you're ass kicked as a warrior more than for any other class i've seen you play in a vid. was it cause u played fury warrior or cus u played a gnome warrior?
I want to see the Loa, Bwonsamdi in particular being mad as fuck at Helya for stealing his souls, new troll/loa raid when! would be cool as fuck if we saw a raid where to factions where clashing on a grand scale inside the instance while we assisted cleaned up bosses
no, the fury weapons where forged from a pillow fight. we have no dps
We killed ingvar in utgarde keep right? There should be a pic or something you can use as a visual of him there.
You said vigfus says the same thing as Arthas, did you mean Helya?
Do we know for sure that this Ingvar is Ingvar the Plunderer?
mrspidey80 It would make sense. How many people in WoW have the same name and yet not the same person? Not many maybe 5 at most if that. Remember the Val'kyr who brought him back when we killed him the first time around says something along the lines of "we are not yet finished or your missions is not yet done" implying that he can/or will come back.
"I see only darkness"
Why does everyone and their mother say that line??
Sylvanas said this too at the Greymane Wall.
It might be referring to the shadowlands, where majority of people end up when they die.
What if the Troll and Human souls are part of the bargain Sylvanas made with Helya. More souls from the Horde and in return eternal afterlife for her?
Seing this before Shadowlands... that vrykul using the same line than arthas... probably went into the maw! 😉👍
do maw of the damned
after your done with the artifacts you should do the after life then.
So... can I join Sylvanas and help her strike a deal with Helya? I mean, Odyn is a complete asshole, and he's trapped in his halls, he's not using the Val'Kyr.
Meanwhile, if we got control of them, the Forsaken would be heavily bolstered, more forces to fight the Legion, we start ressing our own troops, we drastically increase our chances of victory.
meh, the swords look pathetically small on my Orc Fury Warrior. Going to tmog over them Greatsword of the Inferno, perhaps for the rest of the expac.
There comes a time in everyone's wow career, that they feel the need to man the fuck up, and play as a fury warrior.
Its Helia Nobbel not Helja
You are objectively wrong.
how so ? even the quest logs say it as helia and all the blizzard ppl and streamers of wow
its even in the video at 7:37 lol
It should be Helja.
he says helia with a little bit longer on the L
There's... there's no J in "Helya." Who's Helja?
Is the Helja thing an inside joke?
ingvar he was in wrath of the lich king ?
No, it's not the same Ingvar.
ah alright cheers
yes it is.
It IS the same Ingvar.
Ingvar? As in Ingvar The Plunderer for WOTLK?
Gnome warrior good choice
Can you do a collab with Dorons Movies
Is that how Helya is supposed to be pronounced? Helzsa? Helja? I thought it was similar to Ymir, with "Y" being "Ee". Eemir. Heleea. Or if Odyin is pronounced Odin, she would be Helia.
Anyone else felt kinda disappointed by the choice of swords. Felt like just another pair of swords to me. Would have liked Varian's weapons more, especially now that hes not using them. rip
you know all the lore? or main in video is google? :D
you missed an "r" in "Valarjar"
i thought it said 'warlords of valor'
I am Valarjar!
I'm up for an Afterlife-Video, but as far as i know this part of WoW lore is pretty unclear.
XAL'ATATH HYPE.
PLEASE. IM BEGGING YOU. PLEASE DO ALRACHI WARBLADES. i just want to know toraanars story!
Damm gnomes...
Why you are pronouncing HELYA like Helja ?
Lucky number 7
These wouldn't be so bad if they weren't useless at lvl 120. There are 2 slots greyed out that I can't figure put how to unlock. This is what happens when you run a game with unnecessary mechanics. It makes the game way too tedious to enjoy.
who is heyla anyway :3
nobbel a reson that helya help sylvanes is might that she want to ''libuate the valkures'' and take more revange on odin where she wants him to suffer for eternalty
A Gnome warrior? I threw up on my keyboard.
you died a LOT xD
Might have been said already, but I think it's pronounced "Hell-Yah."
hell yeah?
A Stone Cold reference, maybe?
I really dont like how all the beings made by the titans to protect azeroths are turning into bad and selfish guys. they should be the ones carrying on the will of the titans and do some good things on azeroth. but instead most of them have gotten selffish, seeking for terretory and power. :<
Yes there are some cool stories here and there but i dont like the concept and it doesnt fit imo
I hate our artifact. its the worst. we couldve had gorehowl or something but no we got a new artifact that was never heard of before until legion. and paladins got ashbringer and warlocks got the scepter of sargeras and druids got the scythe of elune. what did we get. two crappy swords.
I'm early AF! And I know nobody gives a shit. XD
Because I know you're not early. you're just on time.
McGrewer ;_;
God can't the legion jsut invade once? This is like the 20th time.
Edit: I was refering to the fact that he says: "The legion is invading us again" at the begging of most videos now... I put it here because I don't want to interrupt the discussion since it is developing well and might be interesting to read :P
We kept fighting them off. While we stayed stubborn they did conquer the rest of the universe though.'
+Gamzee Makara Yeah, because there wasn't any diversity in all the other MMO Worlds.... Sadly.... The Legion overtook the others. XD But still though, WTF. The Legion should've just sent their ships (Maybe all of them) to overwhelm us. My god.
The reason they never did before now was because they were busy everywhere else. x: that or the writers didnt think of it. One of the two take your pick.
how do you expect to conquer a world if you only invade once? :P
Gamzee Makara I think.... Both, maybe? Sort of going on the "busy everywhere else" one but isn't their main objective (in our POV) Azeroth? IDK.
I really don't like any of the Titan Keepers. They all seem so weak and petty for beings described to have great power and wisdom. Except of Freya. She's cool.
Nobbel87 clearing suck playing this game! XD
I rlly don't like that part of lore with Odin, Loki, Valhalla, Valkyries etc....
so many dark souls reference
Gnome as warrior. uh...
Sorry, Vigfus. Looks like you're gonna be *yet another* poor soul who'll be horribly tortured for all eternity.
I'm starting to get a weird vibe from Blizzard...
The arms warrior footage is painful to watch.