Why Ukraine Kept defending Bakhmut
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Is Bakhmut surrounded or is it the location of a Ukrainian Army Counter Attack? But a Russian assault in this direction would be just as costly and would require assaulting through wide open terrain once again. And how exactly did they successfully assault past wide open fields with no cover up to the urban center of Bakhmut in the first place?
Russian forces made Bakhmut the location of their main offensive efforts starting in August 2022 when they began heavy artillery shelling. A Russian missile strike on September 22nd blew up the main bridge that crosses the Bakhmutka river which disrupted Ukrainian military logistics and made the eastern half of the city more difficult to defend. By early November 2022 much of the combat around Bakhmut had turned into trench warfare. Ukrainian soldiers had built a network of trenches in front of the city.
Trenches might seem antiquated but in reality even with all of the modern advances in technology breaking through a fortified defensive position is incredibly difficult. Your enemy you’re aiming at in a trench presents a very small target and it’s impossible to fire a small arm round through 6 feet of dirt. The biggest problem facing soldiers who are using trenches is its difficult to get your resupply to the trench line, you can’t just drive up an armored vehicle and drop off supplies they need to be carried by hand.
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The soldiers in the trenches at the zero line in Bakhmut are in my prayers.
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Yes, trench warfare in the early spring with temperatures just above zero is pure hell. Clothing gets wet and people get cold even unto hypothermia. Boots get wet and people get trench foot. Artillery and mortar fire comes in and people are flat in the water puddle on the trench bottom. Pure hell.
The pile of rubble being fought over that is now Bakhmut is like two bald men fighting over a comb. War is stupid...
Recommend how shitty usa is at war. Real movies like "The dirty dozen" "kellys hero's " "pork chop hill"
Prayers for all Ukrainian Soldiers down range in Bakhmut.
🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦
@@jimbob-robob A rather lazy assessment; but thanks for pointing it out.
They’ve been using Maxims since the start of the war.
For stationary positions, Maxims are excellent, water cooled MG’s go forever.
Doesn’t matter if they’re old.
We still use the Ma Deuce, and that thing is nearly just as ancient.
Both MA deuce and mg 42 are superior to maxim
@@mrdato116 They aren't superior, they're built for different missions. The reason M2 is still used is because it still has a mission that it fits. It's not because it's better or worse, it's a weapon system that satisfies the requirements, just like any other weapon system. Militaries don't use weapons because of dick measuring contests, they use them to satisfy doctrinal requirements.
@@mrdato116 I thought the MG42 was air cooled and required frequent barrel changes during action.
@@d.b.cooper7290 it is! and don't forget that asbestos glove to protect your hand
@@mrdato116 They are lighter and easier to move, but in defensive positions so would the Maxim be superior.
my friend from Ukraine is currently fighting in Bakhmut and the only thing he said when I talked to him about how it is in the city was "imagine hell on earth, then take that times 5 and you might get it. Even so, the morale is high and on days I cant talk to him, I often get a msg just saying "Bakhmut holds" It have become a huge rallying cry for them there.
My thoughts are with your friend in Bakhmut.
I hope and prey Ukraine prevails, in fact I have every confidence they will
"Bakhmut Holds" is a badass line
Ok, Fed.
Ukraine new since 2014 that taking on the Russians,would be a problem.But decided they would fall for the west is great and you need to join them. Good luck with plan,as it seems to be falling apart. America voted in a president,who can’t even walk up stairs,or gets lost on stage. Your first clue should have been how they left Afghanistan, so now Ukraine will no longer exist
Good for him....
If you wondered why Sun Tsu talked about the futility of siegeing cities and prolonged warfare and it being the height of inhumanity this is the prime example.
What?
Why should the Russians bypass Bahmut and leave 80,000 enemies and 240 enemy tanks behind and hope they won't attack them. Your logic is stupid. Sun Tsu does not know what modern warfare is today. You can't leave anyone behind, exactly the mistake the Russians learned from at the beginning of the war. They tried the Sun Tsu tactic, but today's weapons are so advanced that the tactics of the past no longer work
@Nenad Bakotić He just means , quick descisive victories and avoid seiges because they are inhuman and expensive. The source material has companion elaborations that really flesh out this point.
Futility?
Ever heard of the Turkish nation?
Born with the conquest of Constantinople now Istanbul.
Yes, after a SIEGE.
@@moiseshuerta3984 The Ottomans took Constantinople only after 7 long sieges! It's actually a testament to the futility of sieges. The conquest of Constantinople was not when the Ottoman empire was born, they had been around for 150 years by then and controlled most of Asia minor and very much the majority of the Balkan. The "Byzantines" only held to Constantinople and were completely cut off for decades that it was a matter of time before their eventual fall.
Bakhmut was built as the Gateway Fortress to those 2 Major Routes as far back as 1571.
Tell us more, specifically about salt.
@@ezekielbrockmann114 HHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'd heard that Bakhmut started being fortified after the 2014 invasion. Not just the city itself, but at least 2 fortified lines in the higher terrain west of the town. Even if the orcs captured the rubble pile of Bakhmut they would have an uphill (no pun intended) battle if they wanted to go further. Plus they would have to advance on open terrain.
Perfect killing field for water cooled Maxim machineguns, marksmen/snipers and every explosive which they could not find cover from. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
That entire region on the north side of the Black Sea has been the scene of countless battles and invasions over the centuries. Watch out for those women on horseback!!
Russia and Ukraine have been feuding since 1100 to so...just like the Mid East
That's sort of unfair to the Maxim. If you have a fortified position, it prevents you from having to change the barrel in sustained fire. Not saying the Maxim is not outdated, but in this specific instance, where flexibility isn't as necessary, a general purpose machine gun might actually be a minor disadvantage
ISNT maxim water cooled so why barrel change
You have to think, the US military still uses the M2 which almost as old as the maxim. As long as it works the phrase don’t fix what’s not broken comes to mind. Yeah there are better weapons but when you need anything that works its not a liability.
I have read articles about the maxim and it's still very good weapon that heat less than some moderns machine guns, have good rate of fire and is very accurate.
@@arnoldshmitt4969 Read again, that's exactly OPs point.
@@thomaslacornette1282 Weight was the driver behind replacing them, along with the Browning .30 cal heavy machine gun. But you couldn't beat them for sustained rate of fire. I've read stories about guys urinating into the water jacket, they keep on running.
This is crazy. A war where new tech such as drones, guided munitions are in the same battlefield as weapons dating back to WW1.
Not to mention trench warfare and all that. Its madness.
@@ifv2089 well they were in the so early stage that the main counter was just to bomb the sites and send the V1's out of control with planes.
Same with the Iraq-Iran war. trench fighting and chemical weapons. Very old school tactics and weaponry used alongside f14s, and guided munitions.
Why would that be considered madness? If something works it works its not as if infantry man suddenly became armored battle mechs. A combat knive or a bajonet are also still in use and they are even older.
@@Grubby_pig exactly, I've explored old trench systems that were very active in the past between Iraq and Iran, the signs of brutal trench warfare were very apparent, also Afghanistan old Soviet trench systems used to defend against the Afghans, just seemed less battered. But trench warfare isn't restricted exclusively to world war one, it was just the main type of warfare used during that period of history.
@@arturobianco848 Exactly why it is both stupid AND hypocritical to ban certain weapons: nuclear, chemical, biological. Except landmines, which can hurt one's OWN side, too.
I would like to congratulate Russia on their 1 year anniversary of their 3 day special military operation 👏🇷🇺
12 Months for Ukronazis to achieve something but Ukronazis have achieved Nothing !😭🤣🇷🇺💲🇨🇳
@@joni8090 What have the Russonazis achieved in one year?
Retreating from Kherson City? 🤣🤣🤣
@@joni8090 Yes, normal Ukranians have achieved a lot though.
@@joni8090 Man casually forgets Kherson and Kharkiv
@@joni8090 did you just use emojis to note that China has bought Russia?
This whole episode in Bakhmut reminds me of Verdun in WWI and the French phrase "On ne passe pas!"
Haha 122mm go brrrrrrr
Stalingrad 2023 😮
@@tomstarcevich1147 Battle of Volgograd by 2024 confirmed??
Battle of Borodino
Or Stalingrad
"...symbolic importance." So was Verdun during the First World War. And Stalingrad during the second. Places do not have to have a military or strategic value before oceans of blood are spilled there. Warfare is the continuation of politics by means of force. So if the politicians believe that something is important, then it is.
If you keep listening to this guy who sold his soul to deep state then look no further
Sure, this can be the case. But there are also places which have a more intrinsic value attached to them (e. g. industrial or transportation hubs, population centers, river crossings, etc.).
Don’t forget Attu and Kiska.
Stalingrad was chiefly not symbolic. It was the gateway to the Volga which was a major supply artery for the Soviet Union and was used to bring much of the lend lease from the USA that was keeping the USSR alive.
@@jonathanh761 Stalingrad was not symbolic? It had the name Stalin in it...same with Leningrad...
RUclips commentator Perun has said that in January (or was it February - I can't remember) Prigozhin has said that once Bakhmut was taken, the Wagner group would pause and regroup - which gave the impetus to Ukraine to keep fighting. If Bakhmut still holds, then the Wagner group is forced to continue fighting and destroy itself in the process. I've also heard one commentator suggest that Prigozhin may be the convenient fall guy when Russia loses the war: it gives the Army a way of retreating without losing.
Perun is the GOAT, love his videos, always great stuff there
Isn't the Russian attack of Bakhmut still logical, because once they take it, all the Ukrainians in that part are lost? Then the loss ratio is equal again. In one month, the overall weather conditions make the terrain again usable for other offensive actions. Russia doesn't have anyone to waste, so if Wagner falls, the Army doesn't win, because they are just part of the same KGB system.
Russia will not lose the war. Russia will walk away with Crimea, the DPR, and LPR. Ukraine will say it won while conceeding over the territories to Russia.
@@schadelharry4048 True, but remember - based on their social media feeds, the Russian Army hate and loathe Wagner Group and their men get into drunken brawls in pubs. Might they be petty enough to look at Wager dying and say "sounds like a big case of *not my problem*"?
@andreyRUS17 Bakhmut still stands. It turns out that the second greatest army in the world isn't even the second greatest army in Ukraine. 😁
The Maxim is still very effective in a fixed position. The devils paint brush. Water cooled so no need to swap barrels. Its big and heavy so if you need to move a lighter more modern machine gun would be needed. PKM, M240, etc.
Nice cope
@@OSTemli Both sides are still using it because it can fire more rounds per minute than any air cooled MG.
@@OSTemli I dont think you understand what the word "Cope" is, the word is a short form of the phrase, "Coping with Reality" and the evaluation the other gentleman said about the maxim is very realistic, which ironically makes YOU the Coper..
Lmao
@@OSTemli bruh if a maxim was pointed my way all that thinking goes out the window
People also forget these are maxims chambered in 7.62x54R. Mosin ammo, and if im essentially slinging 8mm Mauser downrange, also with a wild amout of surplus ammo. No wonder both sides are using it.
I'm glad people are starting to turn around and realize Bakhmut is important.
It is impressive Russians haven't still taken Bakhmut after months and months of battle Ukrainians are doing a sound job enabled via Western support
superpower that wants to challange USA's supremacy!
russians lost in Kiev with out western support, Ukrainians are great fighters
so the posibility of russians not taking the whole city to allow more ukrainians into the easy to kill already zeroed by artillery positions is unfathomable huh, you dorks are in for a rude awakening soon
@@ramadankadriu5336 kyiv
@@ramadankadriu5336 you fell for that story as well oh dear 😂😍😍😭😭😢😢😢😃😃🤣🤣🤤🤤😎😚
Awesome breakdown! Just a small pedantic correction 😅: those are world war 1 maxims. For defense they are amazing, since they are watercooled and can sustain fire for a looong time
I am loving the cope by Ukrainian Nazi lovers tak up having 19th-century weapons like it’s somehow a good sign.
Until the water eventually evaporates and you have to either waste water or urinate in the tank.Also they are very heavy and unwieldy.Why do you think by the start of WW2,most armies were using weapons like the MG34,the Browning .30,and .50 cal,much more portable.
Or should the situation arise when you need to move it in an attack. Much more in date kit better suited, why there still not made.
@@j.4332 And your point is? its used as a static defense weapon all the ones you are actualy worse for static defense weapons. Yes they are way more flexible so thats why we use them or at least modern variants of them. But if you have the maxims and time to prepare and the enemy is willing to assault you there they work fine. Even if nobody wants to attcak you there you still free up a weapon that would otherwise be tied up to that position.
you make a great point those Maxims are clearly doing something right
So Bakhmut falls!!
I really love your reports. Your humor and thoroughness is so impressive. Keep up the great work!
Another good lecture Chris. Informative, well done. And thank you
These days we are accustomed to live news immediate results and instant satisfaction.. war is not so straightforward
We are accustomed to hi tech professional militaries routing goat herders who don’t even know what an academy is, acting like it was an amazing feat of conquest. It’s like being surprised that a Roman legion could beat a Stone Age tribe and setting that as your default expectation for how wars should go.
@@Mortablunt Exactly this! I would like to see the US take on one of its peers and see how glorious they are then.
@@azoniarnl3362 Such as? Remember that USA have a $1 trillion military budget and the biggest military stockpile in the world.
@@melindacadarette3447 Well, China is gonna be the closest.
One thing is for sure, it’s not gonna be another Iraq. I strongly suspect they will still win, but it would be very costly
Most detailed report I've seen. Nice work 👏
serious? NWE war reports makes 1 to 2 videos daily on this battle
This is more of an overview. Daily detailed reports are available on many other channels.
Hey Cappy, love your channel.
I've been following you and subscribed to the channel well before the events in Ukraine.
Love your humorous approach.
Just wanted to say that I'm really appreciative of the deep dives, well researched and more serious commentary when it comes to Ukraine.
I imagine that it requires a much greater effort to put the more serious presentations together.
More please!
Bahkmut is a killing zone. It's there to chew up Russia's remaining combat power. That being their ability to conduct offensive operations. It's a series of choke points if you look at the map properly. It holds a lot of significance. A rose watered in blood.
Or the other way around Russia to chew up Ukraine's last combat power,time will tell
As someone who has never been into military things, ideas, tactics, or strategies even I immediately understand (like the Ukrainians) that Bakhmut is the MOST ideal place to fight a very hard, deadly battle, if there ever is such a thing: it is, today, almost completely free of civilians....
Over 99% of the dead and casualties are soldiers on both side.... with the Ukrainians being able to show what they have in military equipment & skills (both aspects of things are supported by NATO nations, with thousands of ordinary Ukrainian soldiers and officers alike being trained by Germans, Brits, Spaniards, Americans, French and with TENS of billions of dollars worth of heavy machines, weapons, munition, drones, and even fighter jets pouring in)...... drawing in as many thousands of Russian cannon fodder as they possibly could draw from the other sectors of Ukraine that Russia has occupied.
This is one of the truly rare instances where you could say "We fight there (in a deserted town tens of miles from any other major city), so they don't come here (to the cities)..."
The American politicians and military "experts" who keep telling Zelensky and the Ukrainians that they should just let the Russians take Bakhmut because "it has no strategic importance" sound so dumb, I wonder how we would survive in a real war.... if that's their Sun Tzu approach to war.
Russians don't have magic or endless supply or weapons and man power; if they pour enough equipment and soldiers into this tiny area, the other sectors will have to do with less equipment and man power... making it easier for the defenders, the Ukrainians, to plan for and to go offensive in those other sectors...
The best "strategy" in a battle and in a war is to kill as many enemies as you could, in the most isolated places where civilians and city infrastructures are the least involved.
No one has to be a military genius like Sun Tzu to understand that!
We should send ATACMS to Ukraine
What does remaining combat power even mean? Russia has way more soldiers than Ukraine. Not to mention there are still 5k Ukrainians still holding Bakhmut for some reason
@@prometheusjackson8787 Because Bakhmut is a wall for Russians to smash their heads on and bleed themselves out. Very costly but effective strategy for Ukraine
Man, Western intelligence gave Kyiv 72 hours before it was captured. And Ukraine was given 2 weeks to lose the war... Ukrainian intelligence knows much more: how much strength, shells, motivation, and even their plans the russians have. Everyone knows very well that the main value of Ukraine is military personnel, because russia has 4 times more people, and Ukraine does not have the right to lose soldiers thoughtlessly. Therefore, if the command, which by the way is already the 5th time coming to the "encircled" Bakhmut, decided that it was strategically correct to continue the defense, then this is so.
It's funny how "military experts" and officials who live thousands of kilometers from Ukraine tell "what is really happening there" and give advice to the command. It's funny that the losses of the Russians are always underestimated, because "visual evidence is needed" - what are they? This is when an infantry fighting vehicle with personnel takes off into the air and only ashes remain there, does it need to bring DNA to Western intelligence? Tens of thousands of Russians are lying in the ground, and no one is going to take them away, and even to identify something. So advice - trust the General Staff of the Ukrainian Army.
Ukraines defense minister said Ukraine has 1 million men and 800,000 of those were serving in the armed forces. On the contrast Russia has he said Russia has 420,000 men in Ukraine.
Ukraine has manpower advantage because it can easily draft more
Men into the fight because it’s fighting for its existence while Russians are fighting for putins ego. Manpower isn’t as much of an issue as many think. Ukraine has had 200,000 dead and wounded while Russia has had 300,000 dead and wounded. So far Russia has dedicated 700,000+ soldiers to the war so even with their losses they have more than 400,000 soldiers and even with Ukraines massive losses they still have nearly a million men in its armed forces.
Also Ukraine intelligence claims 250,000+ Russians dead and 750,000+ wounded. Russia and pro Russian forces haven’t even sent 1 million men to Ukraine. Same stuff for Russian intelligence the Russian mod and Ukraine mod are just a safe haven for trolls like you
Putin: "We lost Kharkiv, run away from Kiev, lost Kherson, lost Isium, lost half of our army.... BUT we will take Bakhmut!!!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
And , if it wasn't for Russian tactical withdrawals what has Ukronazis achieved in the past 12 Months ?!😭🇷🇺💲🇨🇳
I mean Kherson wasn't able to be supplied and forces would have been trapped. Taking territory doesn't matter, destroying Ukrainian military does. They have started to draft teenagers as young as 15-17.
When Ukraine tried assaulting well manned defenses around Kherson, they lost badly. It's like saying the Taliban took Kabul from us Americans when in truth we just left.
@@joni8090 the Kharkiv counter offensive was a tactical withdrawal? It was a complete rout. Utter devastation of Russian forces.
@@joni8090 Tactical withdraw 😂😂😂
@@joni8090 There was nothing "tactical" about Russia's retreat from Kyiv, and Kharkiv.
It was absolute chaos; Russian soldiers, and heavy vehicles were being left behind by their own officers, like rats off a sinking ship.
The only organised tactical withdrawal happened in Kherson.
whose with me, this channel got like really good out of nowhere in like the last 3 months. not that it wasnt good before but the quality jump was noticeable.
I noticed that as well, they are putting in the work
I don't know which I enjoy more, Cappy's Russian accent, or his Southern accent.
His Russian accent sounds Canadian though...
@@anthonyoer4778 both live in the freezing winter, what's the difference?
His Russian accent isn't good. The whole phase of "in Soviet Russia" makes me get irritated at Russian accents, fake ones I should say.
@@frederickoftheartic2209 now that you mention it, they're all commies...
😂
Great job reporting 👍.you guys are doing a great job gathering the information in consolidating it in reporting it in down to earth terms for the average person to understand thank you for all of your peoples hard work.
No, they aren't lol. It's just western propaganda. Go find a real a real channel like NWE, DPA, Military summary, etc
There is a major war in Europe, where both sides use heavy artillery and Maxim machineguns in brutal trench warfare. The fact I could be talking about 1917 or 2023 is insane
Looking fresh Cappy good vid as usual hope you're taking care.
Thanks for the update Cappy!
Great breakdown of the Battle of Bakhmut, not quite the rosy outlook you'd see in many other places but more realistic of what's happening. Annnnnd subbed.
Today: Bahkmut is important ...
Tomorrow: Bahkmut is of little importance...
Can't make this shit up.
Great job as always. Thanks for the sitrep.
Just follow map channels like THETI Mapping. Russia is still making gains.
These are getting better and better! Bravo T&P
Always the most informative reporting on the war. Thank you!
Stuff like this is why I subscribed to this channel
Great info news anchor cappy
In this day of the flow of information at a high speed, I am impressed at how well the Ukrainians have been maintaining Operational Security. Glory to Ukraine! 🇺🇦💜
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Remember Stalingrad…?
Because the Russians seem to have forgotten all about it
All the best to everyone
It seems you have forgotten the entire history of WW2.
i dont think they have general 😍🎈🎀😎
Russia hasn’t forgotten Stalingrad bro, why the hell would they forget about that?
@@FrostbiteDigital
Because putin is doing the same mistakes hitler made.
@@reekpeekseek funny how the mistake in stalingrad was gettin encircled. And here ukraine is getting encircled?🤨 so who’s repeating who’s mistake?
I would say,that the most important thing in war is to make the enemy pay in blood for every inch of ground they want,rather than constantly retreating to new lines,digging in and defending is often key.Once a commander allows a "tactical retreat",where do your men stop?Look at German strategy by Kesselring in Italy in WW2.A series of defensive lines in good terrain,held off the allies for nearly two years at great cost.
Also look at the greeks in WW2 who didn't and got overrun immediatly. You need to be flexible.
You could literally use the soviets during WW2 as a counter example
The soviets had a worse officer corps then the germans and fought more basic, while the germans fought onthe back of their elite officer corps trained from 1919-1933. Small in size but trained to oblivion do to versailles treaty limits.
The soviets simply threw so many basic soldiers and troops at the germans that despite germany winning massive victories in 1941 their officer corps bleed compleatly white. When the germans finally reached Moscow the elite of their forces, their backbone for all their previous victories, had basically died along the way by slow atritton. Afte that the germans became more and more bad at fighting do to new officers being of significantly lower quality. germanys main advantage was gone and it turned into a numbers game that germany simply couldnt win long term.
Same thing happened in Ukraine. The ukranian army before 2014 was an absolute shitshow of incompetence. However after 2014 they changed absically everything and more or less became a more modern, western military. This new military, these new officers with the post 2014 training and their new weapons was the main reason why the ukranian army could hold against the russians so well in 2022. However here is the problem: Atritton and mass mobilization. Over time a big portion of ukraines initial post 2014 literally died fighting throughout 2022. This was all out war after all. At the same time ukraine mobilized the entire country for war and increased the armys size several times over. This resulted in a huge ammount of mobilized forces needing both training and more importantly a lot of pre 2014 trained and now reserve or retired military personal returning to the army that were still trained according to the pre 2014 soviet doctrines. Ukraine however didnt have the luxury to retrain everyone to NATO training for obvious reasons. Meaning while the post 2014 army bleeds out slowly they are replaced by eather fresh mobilized recruits or pre 2014 trained personal who follow soviet doctrine.
In short, the ukranian army right now is effectively 2 armys at the same time. The old soviet army called in and the new western army bleeding out. And we already see this in a lot ofcases where ukranian units more and more go back to soviet style command tactics instead of NATO mission tactics because that is what these older officers were trained on. While this isnt that big of a problem for defending, it is a massive issue for attacking.
Ukraine now runs the risk of bleeding their few remaining somewhat functioning post 2014 regiments and veterans, especially officers, to death in battles like Bachmut that they desperatly need for any hope of an offensive. Because the longer the war goes, the more the ukranian army will by default go back to fighting like a soviet army. Fewer good officers, more older officers, worse officer training, etc.
As with the example shown above with the WW2 german army, this was and is a massive problem for any country that had to short term prepare for a war and decided to build its force on a small officer corps or had to change doctrine. The germans post 1943 fough the war in parts like WW1 and went back to "hold city X at all cost" strategies instead of a mobile defense with catastrophic results. I fear ukraine might have the same problem. Back in summer 2022 they made the smart decision to abandon Lysichansk at the right time to save the troops inside the city, conducting a mobile defense. However now they changed and went to a fortress strategy in Bachmut.
Even if Russian loses 7 soldiers to 1 ukrainian soldier, ukraine needs that one experienced and post 2014 trained soldier much more then russia needs the 7 mobilized grunts. Russia can always jsut call up another million barely trained canon fooder to continue their way of fighting. Urkaine doesnt have that luxury. Once the post 2014 troops and officers are dead in a high percentage, the ukrainian army is in a really bad spott. Because if it comes down to two soviet style armies fighting in the end, russia is at a massive advantage because it simply has more of everything for at least a year or two more if the west doesnt step up support massively.
It might be that, while being a victory, the defence of Bachmut has doomed the potential success of future ukranian offensivs. Both a russian conquest of the city and a ukranian defense of it are in my opinion pyrric victories for eather side. However I believe russia can rebuild its forces quicker then ukraine because fightign a "dumb war" of static lines and mass artillery is russias strategy for months already while ukraine relied on its mobile forces to retake its land.
And sadly all the western training happening in 2022 adn 2023 is barely a drop of water compared to the loses. And you dont train a good officer in a few weeks, that takes months and years.Time ukraine doesnt have.
@@noobster4779 An absolutely excellent and spot on analysis. Only things to add are that I think the Russians return to the simple method of war because it actually functions well for what they need. Break down ground tactics. The Russians are actually just utilizing artillery and air power alongside squad sized probing attacks with platoon sized follow ups on trenches. I've seen them use drones to direct artillery fire to cover infantry movements in a literal accurate creeping barrage style to give a better surprise. Wagner routinely uses their men like SF, they sneak them through all kinds of cover well into enemy lines, have them call in strikes, then storm areas, dig in, call more strikes to hold, then the Russian line moves up. They do use their armor, but it seems either in squad or platoon level assaults or they'll suddenly shift from superior firepower and small group tactics to mobile warfare and try to blitz a position, like we saw in Vuhledar. Vuhledar was a failure, this is correct, but good example of how they are willing to use both tactics and do know what they're doing. The Russian officer corp is a funny thing. They do have competent officers. It's just many more tended to be corrupt and not as good. The position changing of officers towards the middle and later parts of 2022 showed Russian attempts at improvement in leadership and I think overall they succeeded. Russians also had a ton of officers get killed early on through lack of operational security. Those tended to be the bad officers. Who took their place? Grunts who were fighting and are more practical. Actual Russian army hasn't taken as many casualties as Ukraine, bulk of "Russian" casualties are not Russian Army, but DPR/LPR troops. Volunteers and militias. Russians certainly have lost a decent amount, but not a catastrophic amount. They got half their corrupt/incompetent officer corps killed... which ironically, has helped them now. Of course, some survived, like the fella leading Vuhledar, but the Russian army now feels more confident and competent than they did in the months after Feb-Mar. Plus they actually have better supply and are not as constrained by the original 200k personnel limit. That also majorly fucked them up. Either way, either post brother, keep up the good work
@@noobster4779 Ukraine's army is gone. It was over before it began.....the minute Russia entered there were thousands of young Ukrainian men fleeing the country.....I guess they would rather be known as a coward but alive.
bakhmut holds is the new Cadia stands
Too bad Cadia got cut in half and destroyed... What a battle tho.
I have so enjoyed watching your channel grow and the quality of your content… humor and knowledge base really wonderful.
I appreciate the lessons and informative content your videos provide.
Pure Nazi propaganda
Love you Spare parts Captain - particularly as you always manage to deliver excellent content whilst always looking a little blazed - respect
Great breakdown of the situation. The best one I’ve seen. Thank you for all your work. Praying those involved.
I agree! It is way truthful than those MSM (NBC, ABC, YAHOO, etc).
I like the amount of detail you put in your videos especially in regards to the tactics used. Keep up the good work!
Damn Cappy, your content is just getting better and better with each episode. I like how you are shifting from the lighter version to a more fact-driven approach. Your uploads seem increasingly well researched and fact-checked and are a pleasure to watch. I am quite well informed but you always manage to surprise me with new, well-substantiated information i was not aware of, as well as analysis that makes sense. Keep up the good work.
Cappy, I know some people give you s**t for being unprofessional in these videos but I love it, please never change
Obviously, the generals on the ground are making their decisions with intel we are not privy to, and they have judged that keeping troops in Bahkmut furthers their strategic goals more than retreat does. Given the Ukrainian command's performance so far, I certainly trust that they know what they're doing.
haha this aged like piss
Very good analysis
Maxim gun :
Use Cartridge / built in :
7x57mm Mauser
.303 British
.30-06 Springfield
7.92x57mm Mauser
.577/450 Martini-Henry
7.62x54mmR
Its deadly for sure.
The gun's cyclic firing rate was theoretically 520-580 rounds per minute, which was reduced to 250-300 rounds per minute during actual use. Its maximum range was estimated at 3,500 metres with an effective range of 2,700 metres = 1.67 Miles.
Bruh😂😂 effective range 2.7km?! It has iron sights😅 I’d say effective range is up to 500m and beyond that you have no clue where your bullets are landing.
Fantastic episode
7:15 I think Zelensky is 100% correct on that statement. Bakhmut is the link between Ukrainian defences and losing it means opening up Russian paths to advance on other important areas.
I really enjoy your content Chris, thanks to you and your team for the time and effort.
I thought that they’ve been telling us that Bakhmut is/was militarily insignificant……
By holding Bakhmut it is forcing russia to concentrate force there, which draws more meat and metal into the grinder. The russians can't back off because of all the hype around the town, and by refusing to fall back Ukraine is forcing russia to commit far more resources than it should be on an objective that has long since lost its utility. If they didn't hype it up so much they could cease offensive operations and divert meat/metal elsewhere to have a useful impact on the war, but that is not an option. They also can't concentrate too heavily because they need to avoid another Lyman situation (And HIMARs too). Combine that with their immense losses (Which has forced them to pull T-54s out of storage) and the ever increasing Western support and you get a recipe for absolute disaster.
Make no mistake, even if it falls Bakhmut is the town where russia's offensive power died. They don't have the meat/metal for any more major pushes, and with the soviet stockpiles finally drying up (and basically no means of refilling the warehouses with new equipment) their offensive potential is basically erased. What little threat they posed to NATO has been completely nullified and damn near anyone above the bottom tier could easily bully them (If not for their only remaining card, the nuclear button which judging by how badly the rest of their military is and the countless empty threats it is questionable if anything tied to that big red button putin likes to flaunt even works).
You and your team are awesome
Cappy, thank you for giving us an idea with an infantryman's eye on what's going on there. Perun has the military supply knowledge, Jake Broe has another way of thinking about it but the 3 of you are brilliant.
Average infantryman, well above average military youtuber
Edit: grammar
thanks for watching Alex greatly appreciate it. Perun is outstanding truly the best at covering Ukraine. I haven't heard of Jake Broe I'll have to check him out thanks for that
@@Taskandpurpose Jake used to do finance videos but he's pivoted to Ukraine. He used to be in the USAF. Perun probably works in either the defence industry or the government.
I work in the industry which is what makes me think that he works there.
Keep it up mate, you deliver good stuff :)
Ngl, seeing someone like HistoryLegends post constant shrill pieces about Bakhmut falling soon the past 7 months has been perfect meme material during this conflict. So call “neutral arbiters” keep seething.
Russia just sucks hard.
I enjoy the details more. "We left unimportant Herson and Izyum to focus on Bakhmut, the most important town in this war. We will win the war as soon as we capture it, but dumb Ukrainians put so much effort into defending it, so it's good we did not capture it. But defending it is dumb"
Alex gets most of his predictions right so..🤷♂️
@@Isaac79922 like what? He’s been wrong on almost everything since the fall of Popasna to Russian forces in June.
@@Isaac79922 like how bakhmut has fallen?
fantastic analysis/
7 to 1 ratio if you just ignore all ukrainian losses lmfao.
Great analysis on your part, keep up the excellent work …
Nobody's give a shit what zelenskiy will say. He does what he is told from Washington.
source
That was very reasonable assessment, I think the differentials will be the will to fight and resources and re-supply. UAF need to cut the rear supply lines.
Best videos on the war, great job
Love how this channel not crazy bias 👌🏾👏🏾
If the Ukrainians are getting slaughtered and his coverage is this causal that would be very bias dont you think? Just wait, the truth will come out.
This guy post nothing but pure Ukraine propaganda
@@Mortablunt Its actually western deep state propaganda. When Ukraine has served its purpose (lamb) Task and Purpose will help burry the body.
@@Mortablunt I don't about you it seams more bothsideism than anything unless you a bot and angry that the Russian bear is getting beaten by O.G. Kyiv Rus
Great job ❤ again 👍
Bloodiest battle of the 21st century... So far
Just wait for the 2nd Pacific War featuring:
US vs China
China vs India
Japan vs China
Pakistan vs India
*nukes
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti I think if ww3 were to break out nukes would be used in the late war as one sides defeat becomes inevitable. Basically imagine if Nazi Germany had a nuke in 1945 as the allies pushed in. They would definitely use it as a last ditch effort.
@@planderlinde1969 Australia vs emus part 2
😭
I was trying to describe to my friend how important that road is and how close Russia was too it. Once that road is taken the city is taken. God bless Ukraine and it’s brave defenders!!!
"Bakhmut holds" is SO VERY VERY similar to the Warhammer 40k quote "Cadia Stands!" in reference to the single most important planet at the time that was the only thing keeping the eye of terror from expanding and eventually consuming the entire galaxy. The Imperial Guard that were on the planet fought the forces of Chaos for five years. In the end, the BBEG cracks the planet, and everyone on it dies. It was said that even as the planet cracked underneath their feet, the Guard kept fighting till their last breath. Neat.
very informative and the graphics help to understand the tactics, would be cool if we could see more such tactical plays to learn about the strength and weakness of each approach
Its not football.Any tactics nad plans always breakdown very quickly,then it becomes who puts most firepower on the enemy positions.
@@j.4332 If they broke down quickly no one would use them lmao. It's why tactics and officers exist to carry them out. A plan doesn't fully survive battle, but you would be foolish to go into one without a plan.
Great coverage, Cappy.
Wagner purposely keep a section open to allow more Ukraine mobilisation to come in so that more will be eliminated by Wagners. Russia's Original SMÒ objectives still remain unchanged.
One thing that was not mentioned was the common use of railroads by the Russian military. Baktmut is a major hub in the region. Controlling it would enable Russian logistically, allowing them to more easily move supplies all along their front lines. Also, it would allow Russia to control the coal in this region of Ukraine. Which, unlike in America, is still a very important commodity in the region. Russia actually claimed that they took Baktmut back in September. They broadcast that as fact on their news channels.
russian news channel probably confused Bakhmut with "we got our butssmacked"
Western propaganda will downplay Russian victories. What’s new? They know this region like the palm of their hands. It’s their backyard.
"Sending new conscripts followed by elite troops".
That's my exact strategy in C&C Red Alert and General games! 🤣🤣🤣
Ha ha ha 😂😂😂😂 american propaganda...😆😆
Wow, that was great insight into what`s going on. Thanks for the post, I really enjoyed it. As well as all your other posts, so informative..
From what I've gathered from Ukrainian sources the justification is that Bakhmut may not be a linchpin of everything, but it does seem to be a place where Russian forces come to die. Ukrainian losses are heavy, but they're at least 5 to 1 in Ukraine's favor. The actual reasoning is: if it's not Bakhmut, it will have to be another city. You can't hold an open field; you need a place that you can fortify. Bakhmut has already been destroyed as a city, and they don't want more cities destroyed. The bottom line is: if it's not Bakhmut, it's some other city or town, we'd rather stay here than see more of our cities destroyed.
P.S. The Maxim machine guns aren't even WW2, they're WW1. However, the capability they provide doesn't really exist in modern small arms. The water-cooled machine guns of WW1 are still the best that's ever been made for maintaining a constant volume of fire. There was a test where a single Vickers machine gun (a Maxim derivative) that was able to fire a million rounds continuously. Of course, that was with a regular change of barrels and under test conditions, but you can't really beat this reliability. They may seem anachronistic, but they really are the best solution for the current state of warfare in many parts of Ukraine.
That 5 to 1 ratio i still have to see confirmed.
Probably never will happen, but if Russia is going back on the defensive in the coming months, i will actually believe that.
@@13thmistral Right, something like that. It was probably 10 to 1 when Wagner were using larger "human wave" attacks using their prison recruits. They've improved their tactics since then, but it's probably more than 5-to-1 still. The 5-to-1 advantage was an overall estimate of an American think tank. Sorry, don't remember the name.
If you gathered sources from BBC or UK Intelligence then, your spreading Ukrainian Propaganda. Ukraine is now a SHITHOLE country , can’t say it other way or sprinkle rainbows on it
@@AlekseyVitebskiy Right, also heck, as a sucker for numbers, now you mention it, numbers do not say everything. If just talking about prisoners used by wagner, those were never worht that much on their own compared to let's say, an Ukraine soldier that got weeks of training or more by NATO. I think that might have been the ISW, not sure.
@@13thmistral The main advantage of Ukrainian forces overall is that they've largely abandoned the old Soviet and Russian philosophy and tried to adopt the western principals instead. The principals that were actually mostly devised by the Germans, but they are effective. Russian soldiers and NCOs have pretty much no freedom of action, even their officers are constrained by their orders. Every US soldier is taught very early on to use their own head and to make their own decisions. US soldiers are rewarded for their initiative, Russian soldiers are rewarded for blind obedience to orders.
I'm not saying that Ukrainian army doesn't have a bunch of Soviet holdovers that are still operating the way they're used to, but the army and the country as a whole is very much trying to learn and change, and they've made great strides.
By "early on" I mean like the 5th or 6th week of Basic Training. Sorry, it's been decades, don't remember the details. Also, I wasn't combat arms, so the shift may happen at a different part of training for combat arms that don't have separate Basic and AIT. I do remember a very sharp shift from Drill Sergeants trying to break us and mold us into soldiers, to them forcing us to think on our feet. Pain was still applied, of course, but the goal was very different.
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This cleared things up
Best thing about fighting in Bakhmut. Is it keeps the Russians from just demolishing town after town. They need to try and hold them at the same places so they don’t lose multiple entire towns. It’ll be extremely costly to have the pullout and fight in another town over and over. It’s costly in lives I’m sure. But I’m pretty sure ukrain has a lot better troops/supplies/leaders. All of it and it SHOWS
War... war is hell. Especially in 4K for the world to see.
Can you please explain the M100 back and forth vid
It really says something, that we have gone from asking "How quickly can Russia take Ukraine?"
to asking "Can Russia take this one small city?"
Nobody is asking if they can thats obvious but rather when
@@kiddeggplant I am asking LOL
my classmate’s dad got sent to Bakhmut, he went missing after 3 days
Hey Cappy. Thanks for the insight and explanation. Regarding resupply in trenches, could drones help, or are they too puny?
Yea, if you have thousands of rounds of ammo and supplies that would require a lot of drones. it would block out the sun with that swarm haha
Good report, sir.
It's a shame how all this didn't have to happen but then still did.
The Maxim is much older than WW2. Pretty sure it was developed in the late 1800's, but it is still a great machine gun. In some ways it's superior to modern machine guns. For instance, as a fixed position gun you're really only limited by how much water you have and how long the ammo belts are
it might need a fire rate improovement but other than that quite relyable and maybe should be mounted on vics again.
“Exactly how much, I do not claim to know.”
Same.
Your usual insightful analysis. Great work, keep it up.
Бахмут, aka Helm's Deep, where orcs go to plant sunflower seeds. Слава Україні! 💛💙
Yes of Ukrainian bodies piled up
@alexandumb the weak Poor little pro-P00 l0ser.
@@allo-other loser? 400k ukrianian casualties 9k tanks and armor combined, airforce gone, anti air gone, UAVs gone and artillery gone and shells gone so who is the looser again?
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 Nonsense. The Russian Federation is currently little more than a vassal state of Xina, and is doomed to collapse. Tsar Runt has brought his duped p00pulation to a the brink of a well-deserved next chapter of Soviet collapse.
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 The Orcs destroyed 10 aircraft carriers, 200 biolabs, 1000 gay black magic wizards, 3000 HIMARS and 100 million Azov super soldiers. Slava Mordor, Slava Putler!
UA needs to attrit RU forces.
The worry is that Russia *doesn't* push onward, (after taking Bakhmut), and instead digs in to regain forces.
That would mean that UA would have to attack in order to cause attrition - and attacking always carries higher casualties than defending.
Thus UA is better of in Bakhmut's 1:3 ration, than storming Bakmut held by Russians at 3:1 ratio...
Ukrainian needs time to build up the NATO trained and equipped forces.
For one dead Russian soldier (all russian forces) there's 1,5 Ukrainian dead soldier despite all the help from Nato and the west. I calculated this from latest US officials KIA numbers estimates for Ukrainians (from recent Politico article) and from a study of CSIS (independent US institue) for Russian losses. I also looked at casualities numbers given by Zelenski and other Ukrainian officials in june/july 2022 too and with compared losses calculated for Bhakmut to get a better vision. If you think this numbers are wrong you can caculate yourself. The fact is this famous war of attrition Ukraine is losing it and the rethoric that Russia always lose more men than Ukraine a complete lie.
@@ffff7164 well if you live in a nato country and your over 16 you should be going out and helping no ifs and buts just enlist at your nearest office thsnks for your co operation sir
Thomas, that’s a light estimate. It’s more like minimum 6 Nazis per Russian. The Russian advantages in firepower are insurmountable and it’s only getting even greater.
The UA aren’t even fighting the Russian main force in Bakhmut , they are fighting the PMC Wagners numbering around 40k so it’s hilarious that when people says “UA are wearing down Russian soldiers “ they are fighting a private military contractor and nothing else ..
The best news for Ukraine is the Defence of Ugledar against the Russian infantry forces.
I do believe UA is intentionally pinning down the Wagner in Bakhmut so they cannot attack somewhere else and they'll reorganize soon. In Italy we say the epic story for this battle will be echoed for long time :)
At what cost tho?
@David Okpoju the Russian is losing more people than the Ukrainian.
Anders Puck Nielsen has a purely pragmatic theory on why the Ukrainian military has continued to hold Bakhmut long past its "Best if withdrawn from" date. Worth a look.
(Spoiler: Holding Bakhmut and harassing Russians all over the line of contact prevents the Russians from resting and resupplying)
It’s primarily against a military contractor company the size of a single army corps and doesn’t block any of the Russian supply routes so it’s pure Nazi cope. And even more retarded Lee it’s a pure waste of military power to keep reinforcing. Ukraine has already put more than 1 million men under arms and lost about half of them in a year, IF you’re being charitable.
The real reason is the man in charge of Ukraine has no fucking idea what he’s doing and thinks he’s fucking Belisarius or Caesar because his 60,000 strong garrisoned city wasn’t taken by a force of 20,000 that wasn’t even aiming at it.
It is not coming to your mind that this "harassing" comes at a way higher price for Ukraine... Their army is on IV already one year and relies entirely on what the rapidly depleting NATO stockpiles are able to give... And it is 10 to 15% of what Ukraine needs to be close to parity.
@@doublehelix7880 As I said, Nielsen's thinking is counterintuitive, but he is a professional and Ukraine's military has exceeded everyone's expectations. If you would like to argue with him you may want to do that on his channel, or maybe even hear what he has to say first. As ill prepared as Ukraine may be, the Russians have under-performed at every opportunity.
@@Miata822 Btw, I have watched that guy Nielsen.... I think that he lives in a parallel universe... Or at least in Lalaland... According to him, Ukraine is winning a war of attrition against Russia... And yet I am still waiting for your answer how exactly you measure performance in war. Cause you are parroting that MSM cliche, but I do not think you have any idea what stands behind it.
@@doublehelix7880 Maybe watch Perun's latest. It is carefully researched and very detailed, addresses attrition on both sides.
Why America isn't demanding peace is absolutely despicable. These are kids fight this war. Absolutely disgusting what America and NATO is doing.
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Bakhmut holds! Seven months now, soon to be eight if nothing major happens in the next few days.
Bakhmut has been crumbling for seven months now, soon to be eight, despite massive reinforcements being poured in by Ukraine. It evidently does not hold.
As long as Bhakmut holds it keeps the war away from more critical areas.
"Human wave tactic" yeah, I'm out of here. You literally just repeat propaganda talking points.
"Ukraine claims that the ratio is 7 Russians for 1 Ukrainian." Hilarious, but Wagner also claimed that it is 6 Ukrainians for every 1 wagner fighter, but you wouldn't mention that...
So, then why Wagner wasted half year on Bakhmut?
@@maksimfedoryak because there is like 50k Ukrainians defending.
@@eliasziad7864 srsly? 50k people defend city with 100k population?
@@maksimfedoryak yes
Great analysis as always.