Come join the Discord! discord.gg/8xBYWjt Also before anyone says, no I didn't forget 1 or 0 ticking, or pistons pushing entities. The reason I didn't include it in the video is because I wanted the conclusion to at least be some tangible number and not infinity :)
For the acceleration, since the the piston moves the same distance each frame of it's animation, wouldn't that mean the accel/ramprate would have to be calculated within the distance traveled within the first frame? It would accelerate to get to speed on the first frame of movement, then stop accelerating throughout the second frame, as it's velocity would be constant, before decelerating to 0 within the last frame. So rather than the force required for the acceleration to be over the distance of 1m, all that energy would only be calculated over the initial 1/3 of that travel. Depending on if you went with a linear or sinusoidal ramp profile, the force required is gonna be a lot higher...
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 mumbo did a video on how strong steve is, but i'd love to see a crafty vid on it (especially considering this level of deep dive we just got!) we also don't know how the inventory screen we see corresponds to how steve carries items on his person
@@ashlyy1341 Well yeah, but we know it has a fixed volume, and we can drop items in it. The way the items get dropped into the inventory suggests that there are still physics inside of his pockets, since you can see items still collide. So when you drop a stack of redstone blocks into his pockets, then drop a stack of pistons, you know that they get powered, since the redstone blocks are touching the pistons. Even if they fell in the complete opposite corner of his pocket, the pistons would still be powered by QC, since they're so close (even less than one block)
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 how about his pocket being an alternate dimension ( it isn't that big of a deal since Minecraft already has multiple dimensions).
Actually, a piston can push much more than that : they can push multiple players with full inventory of shulker boxes that are full of netherite blocks
@@sabrel4975 No, but he said that in his calculations he was using a piston moving 12 blocks of netherite vertically up. He said he was using 9.81m/s², which would make the final result wrong.
Note about 7:27, for a piston to instantly go to some speed, it requires an infinite amount of energy. But instead it makes more sense to say you divide the pistons final speed minus 0 (because the starting velocity is 0) by the time it takes for a piston to reach that speed, which is probably one redstone game tick.
I believe you have been mildly confused, it would require an infinite acceleration, not infinite energy, as this infinite acceleration happens across an infinitesimal amount of time, and therefore requiring a finite amount of energy proportional to the mass. It pains me however to have had to use the term "infinity" the way I did though, the term "infinity" is quite literally an adjective, not a noun, so saying that infinity is a number is more analogous to saying that red is a letter than a true statement.
8:30 simply put, redstone can hold a pulse for 14 blocks, and the strength of the pulse does not matter to power the piston, so multiply the jules from the piston by 14 to calculate the maximum amount of power that a piece of redstone can handle passing through it. If you brought 1 stack of redstone torches (or blocks) to our universe, you could resolve the power problems of the entire world.
I'm not so sure you can get the density of netherite blocks that way. In order to turn a block of ancient debris into netherite scrap, it needs to go through a blast furnace. This would certainly burn away a significant majority of the other compounds in the ancient debris. With that in mind, if we go by the shape of the netherite scrap sprite, it looks like it is made from two thin sheets of material that when placed together would equal about half the volume of a gold bar.
Also, The data is false as it can push you and 12 blocks so if you full your inventory with shulker blocks full of netherite blocks so, it will be like a piston lifting the whole earth
interesting idea, but the problem with all these "what is the heaviest thing in minecraft" calculations is that you're assuming that mining and crafting is a lossless process. it's pretty fair to say that a gold block is a solid 1m³ of gold (in reality, it is probably less because of impurities), but 1 ancient debris ≠ 1m³ of pure metal. the implication of ancient debris and netherite scraps is that you are salvaging scrap metal from old compacted machinery/armor/structure. also, masses of alloys do not necessarily add to the same volume; depending on the elements you're adding.
furthermore force is not measured in joules, but in newtons, and the equation for force is f=ma, which does not account for the height at which the pistons are pushing the blocks.
the iron inside the piston also moves, also tungsten is the metal with the highest melting point which would make it more viable for netherite. a gold ingot is 2,144 kg, a netherite block contains 4*9=36 gold ingots, 2,144*36=77,184 of gold inside the netherite, for the tungsten its 19,280 kg per m^3 devide it by 9 and get you 2,142 kg. You have to multiply that again by 36 which is equals to 77,120 kg. Now add the gold and tungsten together and you will have 77,184+77,120=154,304 kg per netherite block. A piston can push 12 blocks so 154,304*12=1,851,648 kg. In conclusion, a piston can push 1,851,648 kg if you would use tungsten instead of platinum
For the calculations, as I understand, you used the formula: v = s/t (s is distance/displacement) and the divided it with another set of time in the formula: a = v/t. That also means that technically: a = (s/t)/t, which means a = v/t^2. But then why didn't you use the formula: s = u*t(0) + (1/2)*a*(t^2) (u is initial velocity)? That would have resulted in a calculation about 2 times what you found it to be. Really good editing, like really really good editing keep it up! Your video genuinely kept me engaged!
The bigger problem with the calculations is that he assumes to have continuos accelaration while the piston starts the extension with terminal velocity making the Acceleration infinite
@@Liguehunters No then that would mean that acceleration would be undefined. a = v/t. if t = 0, then v/0 is undefined. Lets just assume that the acceleration is constant for the sake of example
wow. imagine this in bedrock, where u can push containers, u could use chests, shulkers ender-chests full of them! And then there's pick block with data...
You could have thousands of camels with shulkerboxes of netherite blocks and your inventory is full of netherite so it could be unlimited until ur game crashes
but a piston also can push 60 players full of shulkers full of netherite blocks on top of 12 netherite blocks (did i mentions that a piston with a slime block can push any item if it is dropped?) soo infinite shulkers of netherite blocks... yeah way more than expected. ik he is not counting entites btw.
As far as I am aware, there is no way to alloy tungsten and gold, at least to my knowledge. If anyone finds such an alloy, feel free to correct me on that.
Ok, found your comment you wanted to exclude entities in order to reach a tangible number, but I already was full Austin mode... so I'm just gonna drop it here: --- How much does Steve weight? Doesn't matter, these numbers are gonna get big. Insert calculation for full netherite armor (24 ingots), fill each inventory slot plus off-hand with shulker boxes (weight of an empty shulker box also negligible) filled to brim with netherite blocks (37 inventory slots * 27 shulker slots * 64 blocks) We're at 63,938.6 block, but we are far from finished. What we have is just one player. Now, theoretically there could be an infinite number players standing on top of a piston and the piston would be able to move, but that's not a very satisfiable answer. We need to set up some limits.... Let's go with entity cramming. Entity cramming can be set as high and 100 and if we replace the pushed netherite blocks with slimes (at this point, 12 netherite is not gonna be missed), stacked horizontally, we can fit 12 times that many player on top of blocks pushed up by the said piston. Great, that means we are pushing up 1,200 players (hang in there, server) With that, we are now looking at 76,726,320 blocks of netherite, and that baby can lift 65,170,108,586,900 kg without breaking a sweat Sidenote: I couldn't be bothered if riding on top of a donkey or a mule would put the player high enough to be in different block and thus in different entity cramming group, but let's entertain the thought. You can have up to 15 additional inventory slots if you equip a donkey with a chest. That is 15 more shulker boxes, per player. That makes it a 89,858.6 netherite blocks per player, 107,830,320 blocks total, weighing at 91,589,348,523,200 kg
@@cope1492 ingots used for armor pieces. Aaaaaand I just realized my mistake. You only cover diamond armor with a single ingot, you don't craft it from scratch
Oh contraire, mon frere! With 4 players standing on top of an upwards-facing piston, all of which are holding 37 stacks of netherite blocks, you can push with one piston around 789x the mass of a measly 12 blocks. What’s more, give each player 37 shulker boxes of netherite blocks, you’re looking at about 1.36 MILLION times the 12 block mass. If we allow honey blocks to increase the platform size, we can probably fit around 40-50 players on top, so make that 13-15 million times! If a roof is installed to force players into the smaller, crawling hitbox, I estimate somewhere around 20Mx is possible. This isn’t even including the fact that items can be dropped on the platform to increase weight, but with that method, the limit is theoretically nonexistent.
Couple of points to add. The piston has to accelerate and decelerate while moving., the velocity doesn't stop at 44m/s, it stops at 0m/s. We need to calculate the acceleration in the first half of the movement. Solving some equations: v^2 = u^2 * 2as v = u + at v = sqrt(2a * 0.5) v = a * (0.15 / 2) sqrt(a) = a * (0.15 / 2) a = a^2 * (9/1600) a = 1600/9 a = 178m/s/s v = u + at v = 178 * (0.15/2) v = 13.35m/s
With the release of chest boats, we get moveable tile entities. They can carry 26 shulkers, and an ender chest filled with shulkers FILLED WITH NETHERITE BLOCKS. Add a llama/donkey inside and that's 15 more sulkers. Player? 37 more. If you really want to, add some parrots into the mix. Stack boats on top of eachother. There will be no limits.
The piston is one of the most important blocks. You can use this for creative doors, flying machines, farms and eben fully automated elevators for boats, which are really useful if you want to connect some ice-highways on different levels. I even managed to build one of those elevators in pocket edition (pocket editions normally sucks at many redstone things). Besides of the normal things there are also some stranger facts about this block, which shaped minecraft history. Some giant redstone builds with pistons and clocks with pistons, can literally freeze the game, delaying any update or change how the game works. This method has been used to lag out or even crash servers (2b2t giant slimy piston tower…). There are also some stranger things like the six sided pistons (can be created in versions 1.7.2 and 1.7.4), which can break some game mechanics, crash the game and even corrupt your whole world. This exploit was also a very good opportunity to crash servers or get weird block states (half wooden doors…). All in all the piston is one of the most important blocks in minecraft, which shaped its history of this game. Because this block can be used for so many purposes, it is one of the most used blocks in minecraft! For me it was one of the best Features minecraft has ever added!
I just ran a couple calculations for if we were to completely optimize the amount of mass the piston pushes: Following your calculations we make one major deviation: up to 24 players can fit in a single block on java edition, these players can have shulkers full of netherite blocks, leaving a total of (64*27*32*24+12)*(94,376) = 1.292×10^(11)kg of mass being pushed. Following this, the coefficient of static friction for platinum is 1.2, meaning sliding the objects against netherite would give more force. F_f = μ * F_N = 1.2 * 1.292×10^(11) * 18 = 2.791×10^(12) Newtons of force. Since the distance traveled is 1m, this is also, conveniently, the amount of joules. (J=F*D).
To calculate the strength of redstone as you mentioned: Pistons can be activated from as low as a signal strength 1, so using that: a redstone block has ×16 the energy output of a piston, at 4.466×10^(13) Joules. This energy is outputted over .15s, meaning that the total output of a redstone block is 4.466×10^(13) * (1/.15) * 3600 = 1.072×10^(18) Watt-Hours per block. Thusly, each redstone block can power ~45 earths as of 2018.
I think both Osmium and Tungsten would be better fitting because both have a massive melting point and are also rather hard. Osmium is denser than Platinum, while Tungsten is less dense but has both a higher melting point as well as being a harder metal. It is also often used in Welding. Rhenium could also be a solid candidate. It's numbers are roughly in between the other two.
On the count of rarity, keep in mind gold is everywhere in the nether and the nether is another dimensions, not really following the same (atleast formation rules). Nonetheless I think you found a good comparison
using this we can also calculate how strong the player's bones are, since you can be crushed by MULTIPLE at the same time, then walk away just fine with potentially a slight injury which heals within seconds.
you can also connect slime blocks to the piston which will move any blocks attached to it meaning with the right formation of slime blocks with netherite blocks attached to as many sides of those slime blocks as possible the weight it could push would be even greater
Fun fact: egaps are (probably) actually the heaviest item in minecraft, i know crafty only talked about blocks but i saw people saying the same for items. Since the egaps are made of 9 gold blocks which we can see in pre 1.8 versions and each gold block is made out of 9 ingots, it has 81 ingots in total making it about 2.3 times as heavy as a block of netherite. (This is only true if the ancient debris is actually at most a little bit heavier than the gold which would apply for platinum)
funny idea, you can squish a shulkker box full of netherite blocks against a bedrock block, and the pistons gain even more power or you could just push a empty shulker box into a solid block, covered by solids, and disobey the law of mater something, idk i have a 4 in physics
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Actually its more, in bedrock ( I dont know if that's fair) but, in bedrock you can push chests. if you put an entire chest full with shulker boxes with netherite blocks, you can push over 2589085513728 Metric Tons ( 2,5 trillion mt ) and that's around 941485 times the weight of the tower of giza. And that takes over ONE HUNDRED QUADRILLION ( 100000000000000000 ) megajoules and you will need around one HUNDRED TRILLION lightning strikes ( 100000000000000 lightning strikes ) and that is over 30 billion years, around 2 times the power consumption of a house, from the big bang till now. Thanks for the attention. byeeee
what about dropped items and whats in the player's inventory that the piston can also list? like 100s of shulker boxes filled with netherite blocks and multiple players with inventories filled with shulker boxes of netherite blocks?
So what you're assuming is that each time we craft something, because the block haves the same volume but more mass is denser... Makes sense, thats actually how things work. Its just impresive to think that Steve can literally compact that much mass into a 1×1×1 by just having a place where to do it(crafting table)
I’ve always been skeptical of one-way crafting recipes being 1:1 with their products. We know a hold block is 9 gold ingots because we can remove 9 gold ingots from a gold block, but we don’t know that for a piston. It’s possible Steve needs 3 planks worth of material to craft it, but only 1/3rd of a block appears in the final product. Call it waste or whatever. One ancient debris may not have 1 cubic meter of platinum: only a little bit is scrap, and you have to burn up the rest. Similarly, since we cannot recover gold from netherite, it’s possible some of the gold is wasted when making netherite scrap, like some sort of catalytic process.
One problem I have with this is that ancient debris is probably some kind of ore, not pure platinum, so one scrap is not equivalent to one cubic meter of platinum
Well, can’t shulker blocks be pushed? And they can hold those bag items, so what if you filled shuckers with bags filled with nether rite blocks, and make a piston push a ton of those shulkers?
A piston can be powered by a power level of one. There are fifteen redstone power levels (not including no power), so we multiply the 552,439,354J by 15 to get 8,286,590,310J at max power. A redstone block emits a power level of 15 and is made up of 9 redstone dust, so we divide 8,286,590,310 by 9 to get 920,732,256.666...7J costantly coming from redstone dust, just sitting there, right behind your walls and floor. And that's when it's not on! To see how many J it has when it's on, we need to add the full power 8,286,590,310J from earlier to get 9,207,322,566.666...7J at full power! Oh, and I almost forgot, redstone torches have the same power as a restone block and only with a single redstone dust and a stick. If we multiply 8,286,590,310J by 8/9, 7,365,858,053.333...4J that's in a single stick. Now, it takes 2 planks to get 4 sticks, so multiplying 7,365,858,053.333...4J by 4/2, we get 14,731,716,106.666...7J per plank. It takes 1 log to get 4 planks, so we multiply 14,731,716,106.666...7J by 4/1 to get 58,926,864,426.666...7J per log. If we assume an average of 6 logs per tree, we can calculate by multiplying by 6 that there is an average minimum of 353,561,186,560J in a single tree. That means there's trillions of J in a small tree farm, and who knows how much in a natural forest. And that's not even including the leaves! Sadly, I have no known way to calculate the J in the leaves. In other words, real world physics probably shouldn't be used to judge things about Minecraft. Minecraft and other video games probably need their own science and physics.
It's interesting to see an actual science involved in those videos Like the equation for Mechanical movement work that is: A=FS Since S there is hight that means it equals 1 m F - that is force he finds as F=ma for uniformly accelerated motion, where is a - acceleration, m - mass
from the weight of 1 netherite ingot I got that, without command block, a minecraft player can lift almost 80.000.000 of tons (multiply this value by 1 000 to get the value in kilograms) if we don't count the weight of the shulkers boxes
The piston can push more because if the player was holding my whole inventory for a shocker boxes full of netherite blocks with the Pistons pushing them on top of the 12 blocks it would be even heavier
For more info netherite actually could be closer to Urelite which is a rare brownish mineral found in meteorites stronger than diamonds and has a melting point of 1000 Degrees Celsius
If steve jumps from the top to the bottom of a world with an inventory packed with netherite in shulker boxes, the energy released would be equivalent to 24 nuclear bombs And if he hits a cobweb, he can walk away unscathed
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Also before anyone says, no I didn't forget 1 or 0 ticking, or pistons pushing entities. The reason I didn't include it in the video is because I wanted the conclusion to at least be some tangible number and not infinity :)
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For the acceleration, since the the piston moves the same distance each frame of it's animation, wouldn't that mean the accel/ramprate would have to be calculated within the distance traveled within the first frame? It would accelerate to get to speed on the first frame of movement, then stop accelerating throughout the second frame, as it's velocity would be constant, before decelerating to 0 within the last frame.
So rather than the force required for the acceleration to be over the distance of 1m, all that energy would only be calculated over the initial 1/3 of that travel. Depending on if you went with a linear or sinusoidal ramp profile, the force required is gonna be a lot higher...
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Man, this makes you wonder just how strong steve's pockets are...
Yeah, he can hold a stack of 64 pistons next to a redstone block in his inventory.
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 mumbo did a video on how strong steve is, but i'd love to see a crafty vid on it (especially considering this level of deep dive we just got!)
we also don't know how the inventory screen we see corresponds to how steve carries items on his person
@@ashlyy1341 Well yeah, but we know it has a fixed volume, and we can drop items in it. The way the items get dropped into the inventory suggests that there are still physics inside of his pockets, since you can see items still collide. So when you drop a stack of redstone blocks into his pockets, then drop a stack of pistons, you know that they get powered, since the redstone blocks are touching the pistons. Even if they fell in the complete opposite corner of his pocket, the pistons would still be powered by QC, since they're so close (even less than one block)
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 how about his pocket being an alternate dimension ( it isn't that big of a deal since Minecraft already has multiple dimensions).
@@vatsalsrivastav5195 that would solve the whole qc problem, but the blocks would still be able to power each other if they collide in the inventory.
Lol a piston can push 12 netherite blocks but can’t push 13 blocks of sand
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cant even push thirteen blocks of snow
cant even push an empty chest in java
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Actually, a piston can push much more than that : they can push multiple players with full inventory of shulker boxes that are full of netherite blocks
in the original script i mentioned i wasn't counting entities, i didnt forget i just wanted to come to some kind of tangible number
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They can also just push the items on the ground, which is only limited by how much RAM you have.
@@CraftyMasterman now that I think about it, steve is strong af
@@_lilnuggetwithbbqsauce3615 only now?
(Actually, pistons are even stronger, because the gravitational force in Minecraft is not 10, but around 18 m/s^2)
I guess if they're being pushed laterally, gravity doesn't count
@@sabrel4975 No, but he said that in his calculations he was using a piston moving 12 blocks of netherite vertically up. He said he was using 9.81m/s², which would make the final result wrong.
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 i said "let's say" lol. I was already dealing with enough calculations :v
MC gravity acce const is broken lol. Diff entities fall with diff acce so he made the right move ig.
but it didn't work on blocks, because then they would fall back after lifting
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Note about 7:27, for a piston to instantly go to some speed, it requires an infinite amount of energy. But instead it makes more sense to say you divide the pistons final speed minus 0 (because the starting velocity is 0) by the time it takes for a piston to reach that speed, which is probably one redstone game tick.
Yes, he clearly doesn't understand instantaneous acceleration.
@@maxthexpfarmer3957 but it doesn't require infinite acc, because you don't have the information what happens between ticks
@@schwingedeshaehers Good point, but the way he goes about doing it still seems incorrect.
@@maxthexpfarmer3957 yes
I believe you have been mildly confused, it would require an infinite acceleration, not infinite energy, as this infinite acceleration happens across an infinitesimal amount of time, and therefore requiring a finite amount of energy proportional to the mass. It pains me however to have had to use the term "infinity" the way I did though, the term "infinity" is quite literally an adjective, not a noun, so saying that infinity is a number is more analogous to saying that red is a letter than a true statement.
8:30 simply put, redstone can hold a pulse for 14 blocks, and the strength of the pulse does not matter to power the piston, so multiply the jules from the piston by 14 to calculate the maximum amount of power that a piece of redstone can handle passing through it. If you brought 1 stack of redstone torches (or blocks) to our universe, you could resolve the power problems of the entire world.
15 actually, redstone signal goes to 15
or it doesn't go down linear/to 0
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I'm not so sure you can get the density of netherite blocks that way. In order to turn a block of ancient debris into netherite scrap, it needs to go through a blast furnace. This would certainly burn away a significant majority of the other compounds in the ancient debris. With that in mind, if we go by the shape of the netherite scrap sprite, it looks like it is made from two thin sheets of material that when placed together would equal about half the volume of a gold bar.
Also, The data is false as it can push you and 12 blocks so if you full your inventory with shulker blocks full of netherite blocks so, it will be like a piston lifting the whole earth
interesting idea, but the problem with all these "what is the heaviest thing in minecraft" calculations is that you're assuming that mining and crafting is a lossless process. it's pretty fair to say that a gold block is a solid 1m³ of gold (in reality, it is probably less because of impurities), but 1 ancient debris ≠ 1m³ of pure metal. the implication of ancient debris and netherite scraps is that you are salvaging scrap metal from old compacted machinery/armor/structure. also, masses of alloys do not necessarily add to the same volume; depending on the elements you're adding.
furthermore force is not measured in joules, but in newtons, and the equation for force is f=ma, which does not account for the height at which the pistons are pushing the blocks.
I think we can all agree that we had our fair share of digits and calculations even before we reached the part of force.
@@xaviermiller9723 he just said force in place of work, as then the equation would be alright.
W=FS=MaS
pistons can't push obsidian a light fragile rock
Piston: Can push 10k mt
Also Piston: Defeated by a chest made from 8 wood planks
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Pistons in bedrock edition: fuck you but i can push practical blocks 😎
@@athar_adv Bedrock players are lucky
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unless you look at bedrock edition...
the iron inside the piston also moves, also tungsten is the metal with the highest melting point which would make it more viable for netherite. a gold ingot is 2,144 kg, a netherite block contains 4*9=36 gold ingots, 2,144*36=77,184 of gold inside the netherite, for the tungsten its 19,280 kg per m^3 devide it by 9 and get you 2,142 kg. You have to multiply that again by 36 which is equals to 77,120 kg. Now add the gold and tungsten together and you will have 77,184+77,120=154,304 kg per netherite block. A piston can push 12 blocks so 154,304*12=1,851,648 kg.
In conclusion, a piston can push 1,851,648 kg if you would use tungsten instead of platinum
Tungsten isn't a gold alloy
@@cope1492 i never said it was, tungsten would be the netherite scrap inside the netherite ingot
in bedrock you can push chests, makes it able to push over 2589085513728 kg/ metric ton
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The piston accelerates instantly to 1/.15 m/s^2 so the "energy it needs os infinite.
Redstone has a wattage of infinity since it can power itself forever
For the calculations, as I understand, you used the formula: v = s/t (s is distance/displacement) and the divided it with another set of time in the formula: a = v/t. That also means that technically: a = (s/t)/t, which means a = v/t^2.
But then why didn't you use the formula: s = u*t(0) + (1/2)*a*(t^2) (u is initial velocity)? That would have resulted in a calculation about 2 times what you found it to be.
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The bigger problem with the calculations is that he assumes to have continuos accelaration while the piston starts the extension with terminal velocity making the Acceleration infinite
@@Liguehunters No then that would mean that acceleration would be undefined. a = v/t. if t = 0, then v/0 is undefined. Lets just assume that the acceleration is constant for the sake of example
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wow. imagine this in bedrock, where u can push containers, u could use chests, shulkers ender-chests full of them! And then there's pick block with data...
I don't think that bedrock has a pick block with data on it, considering there is no block data, or at least the player cannot access it.
containers don't have the Wight of the items in it
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You could have thousands of camels with shulkerboxes of netherite blocks and your inventory is full of netherite so it could be unlimited until ur game crashes
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but a piston also can push 60 players full of shulkers full of netherite blocks on top of 12 netherite blocks (did i mentions that a piston with a slime block can push any item if it is dropped?) soo infinite shulkers of netherite blocks... yeah way more than expected.
ik he is not counting entites btw.
you forgot the metal tungsten, its durable, rare, and has a melting point of over 3000C
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@@cuboembaralhado8294 exactly
As far as I am aware, there is no way to alloy tungsten and gold, at least to my knowledge. If anyone finds such an alloy, feel free to correct me on that.
Ok, found your comment you wanted to exclude entities in order to reach a tangible number, but I already was full Austin mode...
so I'm just gonna drop it here:
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How much does Steve weight? Doesn't matter, these numbers are gonna get big.
Insert calculation for full netherite armor (24 ingots), fill each inventory slot plus off-hand with shulker boxes (weight of an empty shulker box also negligible) filled to brim with netherite blocks (37 inventory slots * 27 shulker slots * 64 blocks)
We're at 63,938.6 block, but we are far from finished. What we have is just one player.
Now, theoretically there could be an infinite number players standing on top of a piston and the piston would be able to move, but that's not a very satisfiable answer. We need to set up some limits.... Let's go with entity cramming.
Entity cramming can be set as high and 100 and if we replace the pushed netherite blocks with slimes (at this point, 12 netherite is not gonna be missed), stacked horizontally, we can fit 12 times that many player on top of blocks pushed up by the said piston. Great, that means we are pushing up 1,200 players (hang in there, server)
With that, we are now looking at 76,726,320 blocks of netherite, and that baby can lift 65,170,108,586,900 kg without breaking a sweat
Sidenote: I couldn't be bothered if riding on top of a donkey or a mule would put the player high enough to be in different block and thus in different entity cramming group, but let's entertain the thought. You can have up to 15 additional inventory slots if you equip a donkey with a chest. That is 15 more shulker boxes, per player. That makes it a 89,858.6 netherite blocks per player, 107,830,320 blocks total, weighing at 91,589,348,523,200 kg
How did you come up with a decimal for number of blocks?
@@cope1492 ingots used for armor pieces.
Aaaaaand I just realized my mistake. You only cover diamond armor with a single ingot, you don't craft it from scratch
In Minecraft bedrock edition, pistons can move chests full of netherite blocks, so they’re even more powerful.
Chests full of shucker boxes full of nether items blocks!
How strong is piston?
A. Impossible
B. Possible
Oh contraire, mon frere!
With 4 players standing on top of an upwards-facing piston, all of which are holding 37 stacks of netherite blocks, you can push with one piston around 789x the mass of a measly 12 blocks.
What’s more, give each player 37 shulker boxes of netherite blocks, you’re looking at about 1.36 MILLION times the 12 block mass.
If we allow honey blocks to increase the platform size, we can probably fit around 40-50 players on top, so make that 13-15 million times!
If a roof is installed to force players into the smaller, crawling hitbox, I estimate somewhere around 20Mx is possible.
This isn’t even including the fact that items can be dropped on the platform to increase weight, but with that method, the limit is theoretically nonexistent.
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Couple of points to add. The piston has to accelerate and decelerate while moving., the velocity doesn't stop at 44m/s, it stops at 0m/s. We need to calculate the acceleration in the first half of the movement. Solving some equations:
v^2 = u^2 * 2as
v = u + at
v = sqrt(2a * 0.5)
v = a * (0.15 / 2)
sqrt(a) = a * (0.15 / 2)
a = a^2 * (9/1600)
a = 1600/9
a = 178m/s/s
v = u + at
v = 178 * (0.15/2)
v = 13.35m/s
0:43 Wanna make blocks travel at the speed of li-
P I S T O N S!
Comedy gold right there
That moment when you're trying to figure the power of a piston and you accidentally find out what ancient debris is
Items blocks dropped on a piston: are we a joke to you
0:26 So honest that made me laugh
With the release of chest boats, we get moveable tile entities. They can carry 26 shulkers, and an ender chest filled with shulkers FILLED WITH NETHERITE BLOCKS. Add a llama/donkey inside and that's 15 more sulkers. Player? 37 more. If you really want to, add some parrots into the mix. Stack boats on top of eachother. There will be no limits.
This is a really well done and edited. Good job
This feels like minecraft gametheory
i love math being able to understand what your saying and watching the funny parts feels so good you should make more videos... there great!
The piston is one of the most important blocks.
You can use this for creative doors, flying machines, farms and eben fully automated elevators for boats, which are really useful if you want to connect some ice-highways on different levels. I even managed to build one of those elevators in pocket edition (pocket editions normally sucks at many redstone things).
Besides of the normal things there are also some stranger facts about this block, which shaped minecraft history.
Some giant redstone builds with pistons and clocks with pistons, can literally freeze the game, delaying any update or change how the game works. This method has been used to lag out or even crash servers (2b2t giant slimy piston tower…).
There are also some stranger things like the six sided pistons (can be created in versions 1.7.2 and 1.7.4), which can break some game mechanics, crash the game and even corrupt your whole world.
This exploit was also a very good opportunity to crash servers or get weird block states (half wooden doors…).
All in all the piston is one of the most important blocks in minecraft, which shaped its history of this game. Because this block can be used for so many purposes, it is one of the most used blocks in minecraft! For me it was one of the best Features minecraft has ever added!
That moment when 0 tick sticky pistons
Honestly this is one of the most engaging videos I've seen, I love the editing on this and the video itself is just great lmao. Keep it up man!
new favorite youtuber. straight to the point, engaging, good humour, common sense and a dirt block
Grian: let's make inventory bigger.
In game Grian: plese not!
I love how the thumbnail looks as though you're saying the mere existence of pistons in Minecraft could be possible
I just ran a couple calculations for if we were to completely optimize the amount of mass the piston pushes:
Following your calculations we make one major deviation: up to 24 players can fit in a single block on java edition, these players can have shulkers full of netherite blocks, leaving a total of (64*27*32*24+12)*(94,376) = 1.292×10^(11)kg of mass being pushed.
Following this, the coefficient of static friction for platinum is 1.2, meaning sliding the objects against netherite would give more force.
F_f = μ * F_N = 1.2 * 1.292×10^(11) * 18 = 2.791×10^(12) Newtons of force.
Since the distance traveled is 1m, this is also, conveniently, the amount of joules. (J=F*D).
To calculate the strength of redstone as you mentioned:
Pistons can be activated from as low as a signal strength 1, so using that: a redstone block has ×16 the energy output of a piston, at 4.466×10^(13) Joules. This energy is outputted over .15s, meaning that the total output of a redstone block is 4.466×10^(13) * (1/.15) * 3600 = 1.072×10^(18) Watt-Hours per block. Thusly, each redstone block can power ~45 earths as of 2018.
I understand the idea of a tangible result, this was just a fun thought experiment. Also, genuinely great content, good job!
Nice. It doesn't look like you accounted for the hotbar and offhand. At that point armor would be weightless to even count
You can also stand on top of the neterite lock and fill you inventory whith shulkerboxes filled whith neterite Blocks.
My friend: what was the most complicated minecraft related thing you know?
Me: *this video*
A piston can move pure gold blocks but can't move one empty chest
Imagine how powerful a lever is because it can supply enough power to do such a thing, not to mention it’s only made of a stick and cobblestone :/
I liked the video very much. the way you designed the video tied me to the video and entertained me until the end.
I think both Osmium and Tungsten would be better fitting because both have a massive melting point and are also rather hard.
Osmium is denser than Platinum, while Tungsten is less dense but has both a higher melting point as well as being a harder metal.
It is also often used in Welding.
Rhenium could also be a solid candidate. It's numbers are roughly in between the other two.
Those are not gold alloys
the only thing this video has made me realize how much of a monster Steve is in being able to hold an entire inventory of netherite blocks.
On the count of rarity, keep in mind gold is everywhere in the nether and the nether is another dimensions, not really following the same (atleast formation rules). Nonetheless I think you found a good comparison
3:31
Obsidian - *cough* does he not know my existence?
using this we can also calculate how strong the player's bones are, since you can be crushed by MULTIPLE at the same time, then walk away just fine with potentially a slight injury which heals within seconds.
Ok this is just edited too great
you can also connect slime blocks to the piston which will move any blocks attached to it meaning with the right formation of slime blocks with netherite blocks attached to as many sides of those slime blocks as possible the weight it could push would be even greater
Fun fact: egaps are (probably) actually the heaviest item in minecraft, i know crafty only talked about blocks but i saw people saying the same for items. Since the egaps are made of 9 gold blocks which we can see in pre 1.8 versions and each gold block is made out of 9 ingots, it has 81 ingots in total making it about 2.3 times as heavy as a block of netherite. (This is only true if the ancient debris is actually at most a little bit heavier than the gold which would apply for platinum)
i cant believe you made a physics lecture enjoyable to watch
funny idea, you can squish a shulkker box full of netherite blocks against a bedrock block, and the pistons gain even more power
or you could just push a empty shulker box into a solid block, covered by solids, and disobey the law of mater something, idk i have a 4 in physics
Cant wait to for the video about how redstone breaks the laws of thermodynamics.
yo can do that the piston pushes 12 slime blocks that are conected with 4 blocks each
Everybody gangster until the pigs head falloff
In the matter of five minutes you liked my comment like what
@@e.g.1437 i have nothing better to do
If you don’t have anything better to do can you do a Demon slayer model but use water breathing Can you use whirlpool underwater With the epic fight mod You would be the first person on RUclips to do it
"hello im a talking dirt block" greatest sentence ever spoken 😂
0:04 Crafty speed bridging :O
As minecraft player who makes this shit in a crafting table:meet the engineer
CraftyMasterman:Pistons are the most powerful block in minecraft
Cactus: i am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
I LOVE MATHS/PHYSICS videos (I'm too excited)
Good job
Actually its more, in bedrock ( I dont know if that's fair) but, in bedrock you can push chests. if you put an entire chest full with shulker boxes with netherite blocks, you can push over 2589085513728 Metric Tons ( 2,5 trillion mt ) and that's around 941485 times the weight of the tower of giza. And that takes over ONE HUNDRED QUADRILLION ( 100000000000000000 ) megajoules and you will need around one HUNDRED TRILLION lightning strikes ( 100000000000000 lightning strikes ) and that is over 30 billion years, around 2 times the power consumption of a house, from the big bang till now. Thanks for the attention. byeeee
orr.. its like 100 thousand years of 3 million house consumption in one flash
But you can put multiple chests on slime blocks
With 2 slime blocks
You can have 9 chests
what about dropped items and whats in the player's inventory that the piston can also list? like 100s of shulker boxes filled with netherite blocks and multiple players with inventories filled with shulker boxes of netherite blocks?
So what you're assuming is that each time we craft something, because the block haves the same volume but more mass is denser...
Makes sense, thats actually how things work. Its just impresive to think that Steve can literally compact that much mass into a 1×1×1 by just having a place where to do it(crafting table)
I love how he uses real world physics in a game where 2 water blocks is infinite water
I love how a Piston can push so many Netherite blocks but cant even push a Furnace or a Chest
This video reminded me of some video i watched about how strong is steve and it was like 100k lbs from enchanted golden apples. This was like in 2016
Yo crafty has gone full out on this
When Crafty said "we will assume minecrafts gravity is the same as Earths", i completely lost faith in humanity
I like how, when trying to figure out what ancient scrap was, he forgot about tungsten
I’ve always been skeptical of one-way crafting recipes being 1:1 with their products. We know a hold block is 9 gold ingots because we can remove 9 gold ingots from a gold block, but we don’t know that for a piston. It’s possible Steve needs 3 planks worth of material to craft it, but only 1/3rd of a block appears in the final product. Call it waste or whatever. One ancient debris may not have 1 cubic meter of platinum: only a little bit is scrap, and you have to burn up the rest. Similarly, since we cannot recover gold from netherite, it’s possible some of the gold is wasted when making netherite scrap, like some sort of catalytic process.
One problem I have with this is that ancient debris is probably some kind of ore, not pure platinum, so one scrap is not equivalent to one cubic meter of platinum
First video I have seen on this channel. I Immediately subscribed after he said: “If your new here, hi! I’m a talking dirt block.”
4:35 actually ancient debris is not the rarest ore. Rarest ore is deepslate emerald ore.
Love the new longer videos ❤️
1:47 The "foi" got me laughing so hard!
P.S: Also the ground-"pinking" too.
Well, can’t shulker blocks be pushed? And they can hold those bag items, so what if you filled shuckers with bags filled with nether rite blocks, and make a piston push a ton of those shulkers?
Imagine pushing 362 statues but cant instead push 362 grams of wool
A piston can be powered by a power level of one. There are fifteen redstone power levels (not including no power), so we multiply the 552,439,354J by 15 to get 8,286,590,310J at max power. A redstone block emits a power level of 15 and is made up of 9 redstone dust, so we divide 8,286,590,310 by 9 to get 920,732,256.666...7J costantly coming from redstone dust, just sitting there, right behind your walls and floor. And that's when it's not on! To see how many J it has when it's on, we need to add the full power 8,286,590,310J from earlier to get 9,207,322,566.666...7J at full power! Oh, and I almost forgot, redstone torches have the same power as a restone block and only with a single redstone dust and a stick. If we multiply 8,286,590,310J by 8/9, 7,365,858,053.333...4J that's in a single stick. Now, it takes 2 planks to get 4 sticks, so multiplying 7,365,858,053.333...4J by 4/2, we get 14,731,716,106.666...7J per plank. It takes 1 log to get 4 planks, so we multiply 14,731,716,106.666...7J by 4/1 to get 58,926,864,426.666...7J per log. If we assume an average of 6 logs per tree, we can calculate by multiplying by 6 that there is an average minimum of 353,561,186,560J in a single tree. That means there's trillions of J in a small tree farm, and who knows how much in a natural forest. And that's not even including the leaves! Sadly, I have no known way to calculate the J in the leaves.
In other words, real world physics probably shouldn't be used to judge things about Minecraft. Minecraft and other video games probably need their own science and physics.
Craftymasterman: Well thanks for the video script.
Shees this guy just went full game theorist mode, matpat you better be scared CraftyMasterMan is coming for you job.
if you use chests full of netherite blocks in bedrock mode it gets way more ridiculous
It's interesting to see an actual science involved in those videos
Like the equation for Mechanical movement work that is: A=FS
Since S there is hight that means it equals 1 m
F - that is force he finds as F=ma for uniformly accelerated motion, where is a - acceleration, m - mass
Barrels containing shulker boxes full of netherite blocks is the heaviest
Wow awesome video and amazing editing! It was really fast paced and funny!
from the weight of 1 netherite ingot I got that, without command block, a minecraft player can lift almost 80.000.000 of tons (multiply this value by 1 000 to get the value in kilograms) if we don't count the weight of the shulkers boxes
The piston can push more because if the player was holding my whole inventory for a shocker boxes full of netherite blocks with the Pistons pushing them on top of the 12 blocks it would be even heavier
1 block = 24 players
1 player's inventory = 36 slots
1 shulker chest = 27 slots
1 slot = 64 blocks of netherite
1 block of netherite = 849384 kg
a piston can lift that
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usually i just comment and leave, paying little to no attention to the comment section..
Anyway, great video!
For more info netherite actually could be closer to Urelite which is a rare brownish mineral found in meteorites stronger than diamonds and has a melting point of 1000 Degrees Celsius
i saw that too, and i think your'e right
rectification : pistons push in two gameticks, not three
The heviest block in minecraft 1.16+ is a shulkerbox filled with stacks of netherite blocks
If steve jumps from the top to the bottom of a world with an inventory packed with netherite in shulker boxes, the energy released would be equivalent to 24 nuclear bombs
And if he hits a cobweb, he can walk away unscathed