HOW Spider-Man 4 Will Combine "Street Level" With "Multiverse"

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  • Recently, we've gotten reports that Sony and Marvel are negotiating a middle ground where Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 will combine "street level" aspects with "Multiverse" aspects. In this video, I go over all the plot leaks and explain HOW I think they will do this.
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  • @Gabriel-no6wv
    @Gabriel-no6wv 3 месяца назад +79

    I don't like where this is going to be honest, the WHOLE thing about No Way Home was preventing villains from another universes to come to this Spider Man universe, so if this is true, "I guess that No Way Home was for nothing because they came anyways?????"
    Also repeated story, what is he going to do? Banish them to their universes? Again?

    • @CalebByRamen
      @CalebByRamen 3 месяца назад +5

      theres tons of ways for multiverse travel. and different stories you can tell different from " Doctor Strange spell goes wrong"

    • @modernmetalheadcoversanded3238
      @modernmetalheadcoversanded3238 3 месяца назад

      ​​​@@CalebByRamen exactly just because another movie with the same character also has multiverse doesn't mean it's the same as the last movie. Only true Spider-Man/marvel fans know that

    • @Gabriel-no6wv
      @Gabriel-no6wv 3 месяца назад +7

      @@CalebByRamen Still same story.

    • @funkysam1345
      @funkysam1345 3 месяца назад +1

      hi would u like to listen to my approach as to how the multiverse saga shls hv unfolded? I think marvel shld establish 4 major pillars- Avengers, FF, X men and spiderman and then all the other characters kinda revolve around these. i personally believe that when we speak of the MCU now we specifically mean Earth - 1999999. I think that universe is a bit too crowded now. Let the FF be introduced to that universe and take leading role. And then at the same time make audiences invested into 2 other parallel universes in a serious manner. Now here is the catch, one would be spiderman and all the characters that are a part of his entire lore, and the other wld be X- men and all the other characters that are an important part of their lore. No avengers in these universes. U might have some overlap of the minor characters which might be common nd might share variants across these 3 universes. And these 3 universes down the line will in some way collide with each other(metaphorically or even literally). or lets say will become aware of each others existence and will realise that their collective fates are intertwined with each other.
      now I just have one question, can Sony use Miles Morales as a character and his version of spiderman as of now currently? Since u mentioned above that if they have currently liscenced the rights of Spiderman to marvel so they themselves cannot use it. Hope u find this comment interesting wld love to hear your feedback.

    • @slimmdusty8809
      @slimmdusty8809 3 месяца назад +1

      That didn’t mean they’d never be able to get into the MCU, that spell was also to stop a mass amount of people and villains that know Peter Parker from different universes from coming in all at once. You just misunderstood, the spell didn’t completely cut the MCU off from the multiverse.

  • @t.j.1584
    @t.j.1584 3 месяца назад +14

    Aight, now hear me out. While I 110% agree that Spider-Man 4 should be a street level movie, with Peter dealing with the events of NWH, settling into college and possibly getting involved with Daredevil and Kingpin with Scorpion hopefully being one of the main villains. If they do the multiverse element right, I think it would be cool for them to try and tie Spider-Man 4 into Beyond The Spider-Verse. Remember, Spider-Gwen is putting a Spider team together with her dimensional watch to go against the Spider-Society, Miguel, The Spot and save Miles. But Miguel also told her what Tom Holland’s earth number was. So imagine if she comes to the MCU asking for Tom Holland’s help, and he says that he knows a couple other Spider-People that could help too, teasing Tobey and Andrew coming in for Beyond The Spider-Verse. It could lead to some funny moments with Peter B. Parker seeing different versions of himself throughout the years, Andrew’s Peter seeing a version of Gwen alive and if Spot does do something to one of Miles’s loved ones, it would be so good to see Tom Holland stop him from wanting to brutalize or murder spot the same way Tobey did for him in NWH. That’s literally the only multiversal element I’ll accept. Any other way probably just wouldn’t work. I feel like everyone benefits if they go this route.

    • @blue_lightning33
      @blue_lightning33 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I do agree I think everyone would benefit if we went this route. Plus, it would tie in with the credit scene of across the spider verse of Gwen and her spider team leaping into the portal because she does know the Tom Holland earth, so that could be possible.

    • @funkysam1345
      @funkysam1345 3 месяца назад

      So u want a live action human being interact with a cartoon???

    • @t.j.1584
      @t.j.1584 3 месяца назад +1

      @@funkysam1345 Possibly. It worked out for Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Plus, Across The Spider-Verse kinda already did this when the MCU’s Prowler interacts with Miles and Andrew Garfield made a cameo and it looked pretty good. They could probably pull something like that off, especially for something called *BEYOND* the Spider-Verse. Either that, or they explain through some “multiversal shenanigans” that somehow Tom, Tobey and Andrew are able to appear in animated form, which would only make things more confusing.
      I still think this is the best way to go if Marvel and Sony want to meet in the middle to have both a more grounded story with multiverse elements. Cause one, I don’t want Tobey and Andrew to be shoehorned into Spider-man 4 after having a good send off in NWH for no other reason than just money. And two, no one and I mean no one wants Sony’s trash universe to connect and mess with the MCU. However this is a good way generate more hype for Beyond The Spider-Verse (possibly making a billion in the box office) and a way for everyone to win and get what they want in the end.

    • @funkysam1345
      @funkysam1345 3 месяца назад +2

      hi would u like to listen to my approach as to how the multiverse saga shls hv unfolded? I think marvel shld establish 4 major pillars- Avengers, FF, X men and spiderman and then all the other characters kinda revolve around these. i personally believe that when we speak of the MCU now we specifically mean Earth - 1999999. I think that universe is a bit too crowded now. Let the FF be introduced to that universe and take leading role. And then at the same time make audiences invested into 2 other parallel universes in a serious manner. Now here is the catch, one would be spiderman and all the characters that are a part of his entire lore, and the other wld be X- men and all the other characters that are an important part of their lore. No avengers in these universes. U might have some overlap of the minor characters which might be common nd might share variants across these 3 universes. And these 3 universes down the line will in some way collide with each other(metaphorically or even literally). or lets say will become aware of each others existence and will realise that their collective fates are intertwined with each other.
      now I just have one question, can Sony use Miles Morales as a character and his version of spiderman as of now currently? Since u mentioned above that if they have currently liscenced the rights of Spiderman to marvel so they themselves cannot use it. Hope u find this comment interesting wld love to hear your feedback.

    • @t.j.1584
      @t.j.1584 3 месяца назад +1

      @@funkysam1345 I must say, your ideas are very interesting. I like the idea of Spider-Man, The Avengers and the FF being in one universe with the X-men being in a separate one that may collide together to make a new universe where they all exist possibly by the end of Secret Wars or something. And yes, the MCU should be called earth-1999999. As for the question of Miles, Sony pretty much owns the rights to every Spider character, so I’d say they own any version of him. If you don’t mind, I’d also like to talk about stuff I think Marvel should’ve done previously to build up the MCU. I made a lot of changes to Spider-Man FFH, which I think would improve the movie with one of those changes being that Fury and Maria Hill aren’t skrulls, are the real deal and was testing Peter to see if he was ready to step up and handle things like an Avenger so they can recruit him for the new team. This change would also mean changing the Nick Fury end credits scene, and that would be finally knowing who bought Avengers tower, just to find out that it’s the FF introducing them to the MCU for phase 4.
      One other thing I’d like to add that I think Marvel should’ve done was adding more to Thanos’s motive. So we know Thanos was a genocidal warlord from Titan, whose objective was to bring stability to the universe by wiping out half of all life at every level, as he believed its massive population would inevitably use up the universe's entire supply of resources and perish. (My addition to his motive) Because of his planet Titan being unstable due to being massively over populated. It attracted the attention of a celestial being who devoured his planet and everyone on it. And even tells Strange that earth is likely to be on its list. He wants to wipe half of all life on earth not only cause Thanos sees overpopulation as a threat but also to try and prevent other planets from being destroyed and devoured by the celestial that devoured his home planet. In FFH Fury would tell Peter that Strange informed him about this celestial that Thanos told him about and wants to put a new team of Avengers together to get earth ready incase it does come for them.
      Now if you know who this celestial is. It would be teasing that Galactus is coming soon. The FF movie would introduce Silver Surfer not as a villain, but as a warning to them that he’s coming. And it would lead to a New Avengers movie in phase 5 with the New Avengers teaming up with the FF to stop Galactus. It would keep viewers interested to see what’s coming next, it would introduce the FF earlier than later and it would establish who the New Avengers are (which we still don’t have yet).

  • @Baylan_Skoll_
    @Baylan_Skoll_ 3 месяца назад +9

    Didn't Fisk build a multiverse collider thing in the 1st animation spider verse movie, maybe they're doing something like that.

  • @snowlion8923
    @snowlion8923 3 месяца назад +7

    Still loved when Josh called Kraven the animal rights activist when saying Sony left an amber turd on Kevin Feiges desk when Josh was referring to the Madame Web movie. Would be cool to see Multiversal Daredevils where they each wear different Daredevil outifts and were recruited by Andrew and Tobeys versions of Spider-Man. Also would like Joshs theory of Tom Holland being killed by Kraven the animal rights activist in Spider-Man 4 and the Venom symbiote revives him leading into Venom 3. Miles Morales showing up would be cool too

  • @evrywerigoable
    @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +14

    Kingpin ought to make Ned the Hobgoblin, Miles show up fighting spot from Beyond the Spiderverse, back where into the Spiderverse began.

    • @Bobbytwizzle
      @Bobbytwizzle 3 месяца назад +1

      Hell yeah. Hopefully a comic book accurate Hobgoblin. I was so disappointed that NWH didn't upgrade Green Goblins suit to comic accurate.

    • @evrywerigoable
      @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Bobbytwizzle NWH didn't even contact Nicholas Hammond the Amazing Spider-Man from the 1970s films and television series to appear

  • @Cryo80
    @Cryo80 3 месяца назад +7

    I think Tobey and Andrew will appear early in the movie because the multiverse is out of control, and they find that out together, and then they set up secret wars and beyond the spiderverse.

  • @minteractivebricks
    @minteractivebricks 3 месяца назад +2

    I like the idea of the sinister 6 I think it is the only way to merge a multiverse with a grounded Spiderman story. I love the 90’s cartoon mix of Kingpin and the sinister 6

  • @luischamba1526
    @luischamba1526 3 месяца назад +2

    What about The Shocker, he a street level villains. And deserves chance of comebacks.
    Kingpin would hire The shocker and the Enforcers to kill spiderman.
    And new armor shocker suit.

  • @chrismorrell6950
    @chrismorrell6950 3 месяца назад +1

    If that's how Spider-Man 4 plays out sounds good. If we see live action Miles & Spider Gwen that's cool

  • @Bobbytwizzle
    @Bobbytwizzle 3 месяца назад +1

    I think you're wrong about Kang. How could they possibly eliminate all those Kang variants from Quantumania post credit scene? Also there have been rumblings about Marvel recasting Kang. He may not be as prominent as once planned,but I believe he will still play a role in Multiverse shenanigans.

  • @KWAD3MI
    @KWAD3MI 3 месяца назад +1

    I like the idea of Fisk working with a variant Kang and contracting the villains to stop the heroes. I also like the idea of Miguel realizing that Kang is behind the tech and even the issues in the multiverse.
    Nonetheless, I think Sony needs to just let Spiderman go. Let Marvel Studios do the movies and Sony can just help produce them; that way they can still make money off of Spiderman..

  • @IndianaJake
    @IndianaJake 3 месяца назад +2

    I think they should just pretend Morbius doesn't exist and that Vulture never even left the 616. I think we have enough Sinister Six members who already exist in the 616, multiverse not needed. Gimme the return of Shocker in full costume, Scorpion using the cut off tentacle of Doc Ock from NWH, Vulture, maybe a brainwashed Ned Hobgoblin using Norman's tech left behind, Prowler, & maybe Mysterio never died. Or Chameleon. Bing bang boom

  • @AliaaAloha
    @AliaaAloha 3 месяца назад +1

    With the villains/Sinister Six entering the MCU - probably with Mephisto's help (if rumors are true he is involved with the Avenger's building and/or helping Kingpin). As for bringing Tobey and Andrew (even Miles) into the MCU, probably Wong and/or America Chavez (Doctor Strange probably might or might not make an appearance). ???

  • @jessemillan1385
    @jessemillan1385 3 месяца назад +4

    I wouldn't mind if Spider-Man 4 is a Multiversal/street level movie but I'm more focused on it being street level because the Kingpin is going to be Mayor of New York City which sets up DareDevil Born Again.

    • @chillininthebasement
      @chillininthebasement 3 месяца назад +2

      Born Again comes out before Spider-Man 4. The show will set up the movie.

  • @IsiahBradley
    @IsiahBradley 3 месяца назад

    THANKS so much!!! I wanna know what's going on so I need this!!!!

  • @kenaboss4527
    @kenaboss4527 3 месяца назад +5

    This video is actually gonna be super useful because I had no clue how they could do both in one movie

  • @GeekCultureWars
    @GeekCultureWars 3 месяца назад +2

    I love the idea of Black Panther putting Silver Surfer in a Full Nelson.

    • @craigmarlow2194
      @craigmarlow2194 3 месяца назад

      The girl black panther? Only if silver surfer is played by that blonde chick in madame web😂

    • @elijahmiller3989
      @elijahmiller3989 3 месяца назад

      @@craigmarlow2194only if this female Silver surfer turns out to be silver surfers first girlfriend forgot her name.

  • @A21-EDITS21
    @A21-EDITS21 3 месяца назад +6

    First act, fighting Street stuff and then 2nd half and 3rd half multiverse.

    • @nerdiestvengiest5858
      @nerdiestvengiest5858 3 месяца назад

      Yes, 3 halves.

    • @A21-EDITS21
      @A21-EDITS21 3 месяца назад

      @@nerdiestvengiest5858 well are there 3 acts in a movie?

    • @nerdiestvengiest5858
      @nerdiestvengiest5858 3 месяца назад +1

      @@A21-EDITS21 Oh! You meant acts, but said 2nd half and "3rd half". That makes more sense now.

    • @A21-EDITS21
      @A21-EDITS21 3 месяца назад

      @@nerdiestvengiest5858 lol yeah.

    • @nerdiestvengiest5858
      @nerdiestvengiest5858 3 месяца назад

      @@A21-EDITS21 lol No worries. I'd not had coffee yet, and let my cranky sarcasm leak out, after forgetting the "act 1" in the beginning of the sentence. I'd, otherwise, like to think that I'd have extrapolated the intended reference to 3 'acts' (not halves), and refrained from calling it out.

  • @timsimpson6019
    @timsimpson6019 3 месяца назад +1

    It should be street level. Spidey and DD team up against kingpin and scorpion. End credits involve multiverse. Maybe a hint towards miles although I don’t care for that

  • @westsidedelight9896
    @westsidedelight9896 3 месяца назад

    YES! More spider-villains MCU style please 🙏🏽

  • @evrywerigoable
    @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +5

    11:18 And with no doubt, we should get a GhostSpider Gwen

    • @timsimpson6019
      @timsimpson6019 3 месяца назад +3

      No way lol. Spider Gwen is so lame. That’s like a character an 8 year old would come up with. Keep that bonkers crap outta this

    • @evrywerigoable
      @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +1

      @@timsimpson6019 I feel you, but that's exactly it. Sell toys,... and daddy daughter day. Madame Web did none of that with teen girls being choked slammed by some predatory olderguy.
      Is this Sony's #MeToo return with 1 young bird encouraged to dance on the table in her skirt? Give me a break.

  • @DaveG-ur1wm
    @DaveG-ur1wm 3 месяца назад +1

    This is going to be awesome

  • @stevenfeken508
    @stevenfeken508 3 месяца назад +1

    The problem with Sony is that they don’t ask anyone else what they want to see before they make something

  • @CalebByRamen
    @CalebByRamen 3 месяца назад +2

    Josh's ideas and explanations sound really good. And would be doable. I just dont trust Sony.

  • @schoonfam08
    @schoonfam08 3 месяца назад +2

    Why not they just make a Spider Verse as a stand alone and just make Spider Man 4 as a Street level.

  • @SeleneDethly
    @SeleneDethly 2 месяца назад

    I do agree the cleanest and simpliest way to do this, have both studios having what they want; is simply a Multiversal Sinister 6. No actual big Multiverse narrative. Just Vulture who somehow got punted across universes, coming back with several friends to hunt Spider-man, and finding out they can also get paid for it and any other heroes they take out. No Kang or anything like that; just sorta cleaning house of hanging plot threads. Have MCU Scorpion who was teased at the end of Homecoming, Vulture, Kraven, Maybe Morbius, Maybe ASM2 Rhino, Maybe bring back MCU Shocker and you have your Sinister, or maybe since Kingpin formed make a joke/reference to the 90's show Insidious, Six. Even if they weren't good in their orginal movies; we already seen NWH make Electro actually cool; so I am up for seeing them handled by a competent btw crew. Anything deeper then that can be ether at the end or post credit stuff.
    I don't think its really a retread of NWH, its just cleaning up an element of that which somehow shunted Vulture to another universe. And its not really the main plot of the movie; the main plot of the movie is still dealing with Kingpin, just not all his hired guns are from the MCU. And likely no one actually knows this but the audiance, least for the majority of the movie becuase its not important for them to have big neon signs saying that. End of the day, they're all random guys that just want to take down Spider-Man for some reason or other. We were always going to have to deal with the Vulture plotline eventually, and there's no way that wouldn't have been Spider-man s Multiversal dudes.

  • @lokilover1315
    @lokilover1315 3 месяца назад

    Sounds cool!

  • @BigWillyStyle98
    @BigWillyStyle98 3 месяца назад +1

    Josh on his Mike Zeroh ishh 😒😩😫

  • @kybersith
    @kybersith 3 месяца назад +1

    Número 1 Josh! 🔥

  • @samuelmackenzie5267
    @samuelmackenzie5267 3 месяца назад +1

    If I were doing a multiverse Spider-Man movie, I’d have big bad go up against the three Spider-Men maybe Morlun or something. We’d have fun with the idea of going to multiple universes going to the Webb universe as well as the raimi verse and keep it simple with the three Spider-Men taking the focus. Movie can be titled ‘Spider-Men’. The way Sony and marvel are going with Spider-Man 4 sounds ambitious, I’d recommend shooting Spider-Man 4 and 5 back to back to make these ideas work. Surely the people at marvel and Sony can at least entertain the idea.

  • @ParisHughes
    @ParisHughes 3 месяца назад +1

    Huge question here:
    Just how the heck are we supposed to be getting all of this multiverse travel to get these characters to cross franchises AGAIN?
    I know we cant go back and change things but this is why No Way Home shouldve never been a miltiversal movie. The theme has already been done, so doing the same thing AGAIN will feel unoriginal.
    Goblin (wasted)
    Doc Ock (wasted)
    Electro (wasted)
    Sandman (wasted)
    Lizard (wasted)
    So who does that leave now? Especially seeing that the Sinister Six is LED by Doc Ock!?
    -Scorpion
    -Shocker
    -Rhino
    -Vulture
    -Mysterio
    -Kraven
    -Morbius
    -Venom

  • @tanujsingh533
    @tanujsingh533 2 месяца назад

    THE THING IS!!! None of these pages have any clue of any shit, they just upload all the possibilities and know that none of the studios is gonna do anything that is underthought or saturated/stagnant idea

  • @VicBeChillin2189
    @VicBeChillin2189 3 месяца назад +1

    I think we are still gonna get some kang played by coleman domingo so that they dont just totally waste and gloss over that storyline and at the same time doom and other threats will be set up for secret wars

  • @Tyler-dn3jc
    @Tyler-dn3jc 3 месяца назад +1

    There’s obviously something different ab our universe so…
    Maybe kang wants to destroy Loki’s multiverse. So he’s the reason a part of venom was left behind. Because he wants to make spidey bad so he can’t help defeat him in the future, but with no oscorp he had to create spiderman first so made sure the spider existed even though oscorp didn’t. Maybe Loki’s move is to then rewrite it so oscorp now is in mcu and now the spider bites miles so there is another spiderman to help bring Peter back.
    Then Kang from quantum realm or via symbiote is a voice in kingpins head helping him to understand multiverse to bring in more villains from Sony verse following an initial loss to spiderman via tombstone and hammerhead, to tie universe together to begin an incursion, while Fisk gets to use them to take down spiderman which is where daredevil gets involved (and antman knowing the kang situation)
    Then end of movie either Peter go into the multiverse while miles stays (beyond the spider verse?? Or miles goes too and ends up in spiderman 4?) so are ahead of the game for secret wars and how Peter is so important and leads avengers.
    So subtle hints of multiverse but not all revealed in its entirety but mostly a street level movie until the end where spidey goes off like Thor in age of ultron

  • @Fourmath
    @Fourmath 3 месяца назад +1

    I really prefer the Ant-Man and Kang story compared to Sony forcing their stuff into the MCU

  • @baileypass9039
    @baileypass9039 3 месяца назад +1

    If they end up doing this I would love to see the civil war comic panel of punisher carrying Spiderman. Could totally see this happening if spidey gets beat up by the sinister six.

  • @evrywerigoable
    @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +1

    Spot is bankrolled by Kingpin when Tony Stark pulls out on his Time Dilation Portal Projector.

  • @hankhills552
    @hankhills552 3 месяца назад

    That’s a cool idea and you could even mix it up by having the Dylan Baker Curt Connors as the lizard in this one

  • @williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511
    @williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 3 месяца назад +1

    5:57 me pregunto si mas que los sinister six podrían ser los thunderbolts?

  • @Thechillsergeant7
    @Thechillsergeant7 3 месяца назад

    The Peter Parker and Scott lang theory sounds cool. I always felt like something was off with Scott going back home after quantum

  • @garmatey3816
    @garmatey3816 3 месяца назад

    It's genuinely heartwarming that you still have hope that Kraven might be good

  • @dravenlei1870
    @dravenlei1870 3 месяца назад

    I guess it might could work... as a two acts in one film kind of thing. First Act is a street level thing leading up to the reveal of Kingpin and the 2nd act being the Kingpin hires villains that are from the Multiverse to hunt down Spider-man. IDK... Honestly... expectations are really low that Marvel or Sony are going to do anything to impress me... but I guess that just leaves me being opened to be surprised because its not like I'm going to quit watching super hero films/shows
    I've recently been looking up history of Horsemen of Apocalypse and there were a couple iterations of Spider-Man that would be cool to see either in the Deadpool film or in Secret Wars. Either that... or if for the cost of putting Tom Holland Spider-man in the film they could always put the Man-Spider in there. Still hoping to see a Hugh Jackman Wolverine and Spider-man in the same film

  • @robinh1224
    @robinh1224 3 месяца назад

    Those grounded elements are going to be needed so it doesn't feel like a No Way Home remake. BUT...I definitely need to see some kind of multiverse implications. There hasn't been enough in the last several projects, which makes no sense.

  • @MichaelWalker345
    @MichaelWalker345 3 месяца назад

    The easiest thing to do is have Scott tell Peter more about the multiverse and at the end of the movie have the symbiote attach to Peter. That way you can still have the movie be street level with a few nods to the multiverse.

  • @AIRiddleRoom
    @AIRiddleRoom 3 месяца назад

    If theres a Venom 4 ..venom vs spiderman it would be hilarious if Venom went around acting like a crazy mother who lost her child and Spiderman is the kidnapper. And the whole time Peter keeps telling Venom he doesnt want it but the symbiote suit keeps making Pete run evading Venom

  • @Bubblegob
    @Bubblegob 2 месяца назад

    Well the Kingpin from Into the Spiderverse did do multiversal sheananigans if we're using the animated multiverse.

  • @mattlaw2248
    @mattlaw2248 3 месяца назад

    It would be cool to see the sinister 6 lead by Fisk to collected from different Multiverses to take on ant man, 3 spider man, daredevil, and maybe mz Marvel added in to give it some dimension, with wild cards like venom, Miguel, or punisher, to make the movie even better

  • @evrywerigoable
    @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +1

    0:10 Spiderman TAS

  • @tonymontez2358
    @tonymontez2358 3 месяца назад

    It’s always funny hearing comic book explanations being used for situations that’s clearly Sony and Marvel or Hollywood is the real reason why stuff isn’t happening the way it does in comics 9:03 you can predict all of this and Sony could simply just say “no where not doing that and we don’t care if that’s what we set up in the post credits scene” 😂

  • @reubendaboy4834
    @reubendaboy4834 2 месяца назад

    As soon as he said Ultron , I thought of what if ultron because in what if he is a threat to all universes

  • @Denza.
    @Denza. 2 месяца назад

    Theres NO WAY Disney just drops Ms Minutes. Shes way too popular of a simple new character that Disney just says goodbye too. She has to be roaming around and the Spiderman idea would be Awesome

  • @TerrellAustin19941
    @TerrellAustin19941 3 месяца назад

    Wow

  • @funkysam1345
    @funkysam1345 3 месяца назад +1

    hi would u like to listen to my approach as to how the multiverse saga shls hv unfolded? I think marvel shld establish 4 major pillars- Avengers, FF, X men and spiderman and then all the other characters kinda revolve around these. i personally believe that when we speak of the MCU now we specifically mean Earth - 1999999. I think that universe is a bit too crowded now. Let the FF be introduced to that universe and take leading role. And then at the same time make audiences invested into 2 other parallel universes in a serious manner. Now here is the catch, one would be spiderman and all the characters that are a part of his entire lore, and the other wld be X- men and all the other characters that are an important part of their lore. No avengers in these universes. U might have some overlap of the minor characters which might be common nd might share variants across these 3 universes. And these 3 universes down the line will in some way collide with each other(metaphorically or even literally). or lets say will become aware of each others existence and will realise that their collective fates are intertwined with each other.
    now I just have one question, can Sony use Miles Morales as a character and his version of spiderman as of now currently? Since u mentioned above that if they have currently liscenced the rights of Spiderman to marvel so they themselves cannot use it. Hope u find this comment interesting wld love to hear your feedback.

  • @evrywerigoable
    @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +1

    Venom can follow thru from the convenience 🏬

  • @stevejames7930
    @stevejames7930 2 месяца назад

    If Sony bothered to read the comments they'd see that we ONLY want the street level stuff

  • @2ndstreetmarvel
    @2ndstreetmarvel 3 месяца назад +1

    🤘🏿🤘🏿

  • @melloyellow6818
    @melloyellow6818 2 месяца назад

    In all honesty, this is what I want. I want them to introduce the Gwen, Stacy, and Harry Osborn of that universe being Tom Holland to universe or 616 will say there’s a version of Gwen Stacy that gets killed by carnage instead of the green goblin as stated in beyond the spider verse or whatever it’s called in every universe that wants to see it’s not spider Gwen she dies falling for Spider-Man so if we explore that concepts in this movie and possibly the one after it with Spider-Man given, he let MJ walk out of his life, not knowing who he is he could’ve explained what happened at the end of the movie, but he didn’t because he knew he was safe. She was safer, same with Ned so have him become black, Spider-Man, and speaking of that introduced miles Morales as well
    Maybe towards the end of the movie, but have the focus of the movie be Tom Holland, Spider-Man, and characters like Jessica Jones, the punisher Kate bishop people that are also enemies with king pen I don’t know I’m not a story writer, but I really hate the idea of this being a multi first film guardians of the galaxy was not a multi-verse movie And it was so good the volume three I’m talking about. It was so good. Honestly, I think kang is trash and while we are on the topical multi-verse, maybe they should kill king off and all is variance and have Dr. doom in scarlet witch take over the remaining universes after battle world 🌎 and have some characters or merman that have knowledge of the previous cycle of the multi-verse Death and re-creation is the foundation of Phoenix force and chaos magic

  • @TioJones-lm1zi
    @TioJones-lm1zi 3 месяца назад

    Maestro Hulk will rule over all others

  • @coltencavegn5593
    @coltencavegn5593 3 месяца назад

    I'm not going to lie, what you said at the end is not that bad, especially with the fact that Spider-Man 4 was supposed to lead to Avengers 5 anyways. I would still rather a completely grounded story, but as long as there are just hints of multiversal elements and a multiversal post-credit scene, I will be fine. The only thing is that I would like a better way for multiversal villains to come into the MCU other than them just randomly being dumped there because that is simply lazy writing.

  • @spider_who2007
    @spider_who2007 3 месяца назад

    if you dont know into spider verse was something like this and it turned pretty will in the box office so maybe this time it will be little better

  • @bunsauce5323
    @bunsauce5323 3 месяца назад +1

    Lets gooo lets gooooo

  • @everything-comics1102
    @everything-comics1102 3 месяца назад

    The entire movie should be normal, then the post credits is Spiderverse gwen getting Tom to join her spider army for Beyond the spiderverse

  • @ralphdupre357
    @ralphdupre357 3 месяца назад

    Venom being left behind is the Key! What if, Miles Morales venom!

  • @lordveedo
    @lordveedo 3 месяца назад

    💪🏽

  • @jees9179
    @jees9179 3 месяца назад

    If sony still doesn't get the idea that this Multiverse shit is not working, then there's nothing to say.

  • @pcboiz1555
    @pcboiz1555 3 месяца назад

    One word Venom

  • @evrywerigoable
    @evrywerigoable 3 месяца назад +1

    Kingpin can make peter choose between Ned & MJ...

  • @MarcoAspaas
    @MarcoAspaas 3 месяца назад

    How about bringing Deadpool into the Spidey-verse? We do know that he'll be multiverse jumping...and there's a history in the comics of them knowing each other...how has this not been proposed?

  • @glenwaldrop8166
    @glenwaldrop8166 3 месяца назад

    Kang and Miguel are not villains though, they're in a no win situation making impossible decisions. They intervene and kill trillions to save entire universes. They are undoubtedly *an* enemy but they're not villains. Even now Loki is managing the timelines, unless he has become a proper deity in Marvel he's going to run out of capacity to handle this at some point just like the TVA did. Loki saved a nearly infinite amount of lives but only temporarily.

  • @RG2088
    @RG2088 3 месяца назад

    I hope they can figure it out without taking away from No Way Home because that was just so well done i don't want them to render it meaningless. I do like the connection to the spiderverse though and i actually would like the venom stuff. I just hope they can do this right. We also still need the 90s spider-man to make a appearance somewhere.

  • @ThatDorkyReviewShow
    @ThatDorkyReviewShow 2 месяца назад

    What if all 3 spidermen have individual stories and because of the multiverse breaking down , elements and characters get transported to each others universes

  • @tonymontez2358
    @tonymontez2358 3 месяца назад

    Marvel needs to Bring Johnathan majors back and finish what they started it’s the only way. They have no other villains to bring in that makes sense and they were going to get backlash anyway if they do recast plus the movies will still make money if you bring him back

  • @tonymontez2358
    @tonymontez2358 3 месяца назад

    How does Sony want a multi verse but never include a spider man in their other movies for their other characters. Sony is trying to do multi verse and venom movie still doesn’t have a spider man

  • @michealwilson5788
    @michealwilson5788 3 месяца назад +1

    spiderman 4 movie in ant man in 2024 today now yes 🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @baddworld
    @baddworld 3 месяца назад

    We were so spoiled from 2002-2007

  • @Carbonclearly
    @Carbonclearly 3 месяца назад

    Sonys logic makes no sense. If they really wanted to make money off other Spider-Man variants or multiverse stuff they’d just make TASM 3 and Raimi’s SM4. Those movies have the potential to make a billion each, or at least 500 million each.

  • @akcruse
    @akcruse 3 месяца назад

    here’s a thought.. let sony have andrew garfield reprise his role for the sony sinister 6 universe(it’s such an obvious choice idk why nobody’s talking about it) .. let tobey mcguire get closure in a spider man 4 with sam raimi and give tom holland a split street level movie his character arch deserves while the symbiote travels across the states to get to him in the post credit scene in prep for secret wars?? i just don’t get it

  • @M0RGAT0RY
    @M0RGAT0RY 3 месяца назад

    Brother...
    PLEASE drop Morbius. Leto did; now you gotta

  • @gregorygriffinjr3648
    @gregorygriffinjr3648 3 месяца назад

    Deadpool is the incursion because he died in Deadpool 2 came back and changed multiple timelines

  • @frmjewduhh
    @frmjewduhh 3 месяца назад

    What if they have kingpin building a collider exactly like “into the spider verse“?

  • @DarthJoser
    @DarthJoser 3 месяца назад

    Whaaaa

  • @jordonlebrun4501
    @jordonlebrun4501 3 месяца назад +3

    If Ant-Man will be searching for Peter Parker, that means he remembers who Spider-man is, unless he will be searching for Spider-man. If he does remember who Peter Parker is, that means Ant-Man was in the Quantum Realm when Dr. Strange did the spell, so it didn't take effect on him.

  • @buddhashark
    @buddhashark 3 месяца назад

    I don’t think Sony wants to keep doing multiversal things in films after Secret Wars. I think they just want to have their own universe with Tom’s Spider-Man. So basically he’ll be stuck in that universe after Secret Wars.

  • @shawnrichards1280
    @shawnrichards1280 3 месяца назад

    Josh watched morbius? I been thinking of giving it a 3rd watch

  • @wilsonruleman
    @wilsonruleman 3 месяца назад +1

    Why do sinister 6 after fighting 5 villians in the last movie. Like that could have been the sinister 6 movie.

    • @ParisHughes
      @ParisHughes 3 месяца назад

      Exactly, the concept was dope but they shot themselves in the foot by using those characters for absolute nostalgic purposes only. Nothing future related came out of that film to lay the groundwork for this movie.

  • @matthewhdezz2141
    @matthewhdezz2141 2 месяца назад

    They’re recasting KANG so it could work.

  • @elimcdaniel44
    @elimcdaniel44 3 месяца назад

    Just have the movie be about spiderman stopping kingpin from opening the multiverse, the multiverse ascpect is just kingpins plan, the rest is street level

  • @TheArtOfSolo
    @TheArtOfSolo 3 месяца назад

    I’d be ok with the bounty Hunter villains being multiversal

  • @Th_Uslss_Indvdl
    @Th_Uslss_Indvdl 2 месяца назад

    Let it fail, then you watch them do a street-level sequel.

  • @timsimpson6019
    @timsimpson6019 3 месяца назад

    Sony should just let marvel handle Tom holland Spider-Man and worry about their spider verse with miles. Don’t mix the 2 and force shit. Sony is kinda being annoying

  • @virtualrealityfitness283
    @virtualrealityfitness283 3 месяца назад

    In Avengers Forever Kang is a hero!

  • @italianscool
    @italianscool 3 месяца назад

    They should have started Spiderman street level like he was in the comics. The MCU just threw him in with the Avengers right away.

  • @JustJack4268
    @JustJack4268 3 месяца назад

    I don't like this idea of Marvel compromising with sony. If I were marvel I would just pull out entirely so that way their name isn't associated with anything sony.

  • @trent5641
    @trent5641 3 месяца назад

    Lets goooooooo

  • @Adolfo.Kittler
    @Adolfo.Kittler 3 месяца назад

    if this movies flop we know who to blame. YES SONY

  • @treyt86
    @treyt86 3 месяца назад

    I’m watching! Are we best friends yet?!

  • @mortagon1451
    @mortagon1451 3 месяца назад +1

    Multiversal goodness? More like Multiversal mess.

  • @chrisclarke4665
    @chrisclarke4665 3 месяца назад

    These story ideas sound really dumb. Kingpin would work fine on his own.

  • @garywalker5000
    @garywalker5000 2 месяца назад

    mmmmm i hope they know they are doing very confusing

  • @jingleballs9935
    @jingleballs9935 2 месяца назад

    PLEASE GOD NO MULTIVERSE IN THE MAIN PLOT😭😭😭