Baiyin Daylight Slag Tipping, China, 2005
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2014
- Back in 2005, when Baiyin was less well known, we were able to wander freely and film without any form of hindrance... The molten slag tipping from the copper (not steel) smelter was one of the highlights of the visit.
My pappy always said, "son, don't stand on the downhill side of the slag pot." Purt much always tried to heed that advice.
The late 1800s called, they want their steam engine back.
I know this is a joke and stuff, but in case anyone wants some trivia, the Pennsylvania railroad officially retired their steam locomotives in 1957, not as long ago as you may think.
British Railways, all one company stopped steam locos in 1968
@@ajaxengineco im surprised some countries still used steam trains i mean its was awesome until diesels came and took those poor steam engines jobs
West Germany retired them in 1977 and actually completely banned Steam Locomotives everywhere for about ten Years; even on Heritage Railways and for other historic Purposes. East Germany couldn't do without them until Re-Unification so the newly found Deutsche Bahn (the Shitstain of a Railway we have today) still ran Steam Locomotives for a short Time in 1994, mostly around Berlin.
To think of all the Harbor Freight tools that could've been made!
Hahaa, pretty spot on there.
HAh right
😂 right on!
C H I N E S I U M
Nahhh. They got some guys that go out there with chisels after the slag solidifies to break chunks off for the saw blades. The amount of chiseling determines the number of teeth. It's not a complete waste.
Wow! Thanks for sharing this. Based on the vid of the locomotive in motion, it looks like a wide area was used for slag tipping over a long length of track. Neat to see steam power still in use. My mind ponders whether the molten slag could somehow be used to charge the boiler, but a working solution probably adds way too much complexity. Amazing video.
I believe the technical name of that is "Choo-choo" train.
David Ryder lmfao! 😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Yeah it is, dude!!!
(can confirm)
the technical name for the locomotive is *"FUKING 2-6-4 ADRIATIC"*
Interesting. I bet that the pour is really impressive at night. The now defunct iron smelter at Birmingham, Alabama (Sloss Furnaces) used to make for an amazing night show as seen from the viaduct back in its day. Interesting too that the slag is potted instead of continuously tapped...
There's a separate video showing the evening operation, for some reason it's nothing like as popular as this one:
ruclips.net/video/mg6YjC_ORMg/видео.html
Enjoy!
Ghost Adventures had an episode there. They climbed up the old rusting outside steps that was the scariest part.
China is one big environmental disaster area, and is that a steam train?
yea, it's a steam locomotive, but it looks like it's in terrible condition... Looks like it's being kept just alive enough to move, and no other reason than that.
***** Yes but the west is learning and are changing, hopfully for the better. Somehow I donot think China doesnot even care.
Destroying your environment is not a necessary step in an industrial revolution, despite the mythology that has arisen around that idea.
while we are at it , lets just stop using anything even remotly resembles any form of technological progress.. Honmey, ya can't ahve steel, or aluminum or any other advanced materials without some form of pollutant.
Christie Malry
Yes because it's just the republicans who use steel ..
Moron
Refilling the volcano.
I would say that they are not dumping enough slag, the last Stainless steel pot I bought that was made in China rusted.
This is for a copper smelter. Sorry for necroposting but just had to say something.
Kamitorrorga is this part of the production or are they dumping waste? I couldn't find much online about this.
@Alexander Allen i get it but why its liquid i melt copper but thé slag flot to the top why its liquid if its slag
Lol the name of the pot was probably “stainless steel”, not the material.
@@RashaKahnbrilliant
TIL: There are still steam engines in use in the world.
Have you ever heard of a preserved railway? Rarely are they used for actual applications but there are hundreds of thousands still running.
@@scootergrant8683 The OP said "in use." I'm sure he's aware many steam locomotives are still running, but not "in use."
Oh so that's where all the old locomotives went.
The video has pretty good quality considering this was like in 1914 or something
Aldo Giannone it is present they can’t use desiel fuel or locomotive it will catch on fire and explode
You do realise steam locomotives weren't retired in many western countries until the 50's and 60's. Russia still had a few up until the late 20th century for cases of 'national emergency' like some other nations. If you want to read up about that look for S.S.Rs or strategic steam reserves.
It says in the description 2005
Sacrasm, do you get it now?
@@mratsfrailfan1894 lol whut?
Hope you have more Steel Mill related videos,this one was perfect.
Steam engine noise is so wonderful
it´s not noise it´s Music ;-) Mechanical Music
@RIDIN’ HIGH 5150 I´m 50 and love Steam Engines.... Diesel .... YIKES !!! They stink terrible and the Sound is awful. But hey, everyone hat their favourite ;-)
That old steam loco is still working hard, nice.
"Go dump it out back"
I remember the lava flowing down the slag hills in Pittsburgh growing up. Some of those hills were right inside Pittsburgh city limits. The steel mills are all gone from Pittsburgh and they've built condos on top of those hills. Not a place I'd want to live! What's funny about growing up there was that people were almost proud of the pollution. We had CRAZY sunsets from all of the pollutants in the air. Men's white shirts were gray by the end of the day. Sometimes they'd turn on the street lights in the middle of the day. There were certain mornings we'd wake up to go to school and the air REEKED of sulfur and the cars were covered with yellow dust. I miss it.
Health vulnerability is a high price to pay for a high standard of living.
tell us more about the sunsets?
Love the Antique steam train
That steam powered and coal fueled locomotive looks like it was built 100 years ago although it's probably only about 25-30 years old. China was making these engines well into the early 2000's.
Not quite, the last known SY (1772) was delivered in October 1999:
www.china.internationalsteam.co.uk/trains/china35.htm
It and 1771 were thought to have been put together mainly from spare parts lying around Tangshan Works.
Those heaps must be hard as hell, Ive had to try cleaning up the slag in a foundry it eats tools
Is no one else amazed they're using a steam engine?
+ Bill Melater Coal was probable cheaper.
Bill Melater I am.
We still use wheels and those were invented quite a while ago...
Diesel engine would explode from the heat. That's molten rock in those crucibles, and the heat coming off it is way hotter than anything you can think of.
Thanks again, Chinese... Always thinking about Mother Earth.
I guess you're not speaking to me, Shane - because I never said anything about the U.S. This post is about CHINA. And if you want to challenge China's rather astonishing environmental abuse TODAY against America, knock yourself out. It would be futile.
you're welcome
I often wonder whether we could have used steam more effectively over time, especially for some slower train journeys, Also what improvements could have been made.
crush art steam punk is the art still around today. But no matter how you spin it, they're are much more efficient ways to power a train. A nuclear train would be ideal. But it's hard to contain the radioactivity on such a small vehicle. Ultimately a train having unlimited fuel is ideal. What's not ideal is a train consuming 200 gallons of diesel/hour.
But we use steam on a large scale right now: all coal/gas/nuclear power plants use steam turbines to generate electricity.
@@lucianene7741 steam turbine are much more efficient, that's why
And there goes the environment...
WTF a steam train? ahah awesome!
I fail to understand why I watched this video. Slag fascinates.
Me too
Kinda like man-made lava.
Amazing!
They melted alot of slaaaag
Now they gotta dump it all
All aboard the STEAM TRAIN
choo choo
Copper slag is often crushed,then recycled as a sandblasting grit.
Great to see the steam locos in service,reminding us of our recent technological advances.
You could probably recover a pretty good amount of energy from this... by dumping it in water and powering a turbine of some sort...
mixing slag and or molten steel with water creates an explosion. Look up wet charging a furnace
Not, if it is done in a controlled manner. I have sen this done elsewhere in China (sorry, no video) - www.china.internationalsteam.co.uk/trains/china192.htm
+Chris W true.. you don't need to have it touch directly?
I'n most geothermal plants they have workers cup the molten slag with their hands and dump it into the process so that the slag is not added in too fast
lol
I wonder what that place looked like before they started dumping slag there
probably desert
drewtoli thank you
It was a quit neighborhood, now the kids burned in the slag are no longer screaming
I assume that the steam engine would be cheaper to run for repetitive short hauls. Would it also be safer than diesel due to its operating environment?
You'd better ask the economists. Basically steam has survived in pockets in China where the operators can't afford the capital cost of a diesel, tempered with the fact that the steam to diesel transition leads to a loss of jobs. That's a simplification no doubt but it's a good starting point.
I don't know, what's wrong with the steam loco. It's not in mass use, and compared to the waste of the facility, it's really just a sand grain in the desert. However, this old kid excels in robustness and (not easy, not simple, but cheap and low-tech) maintenance, it will run into the hell on his own boogies, with his own steam, so it's still a good choice for the poor areas, where a newer diesel engine just suffer from bad maintenance and poor reliability over a short period of time. It has very bad efficacy, but in this respect, not the loco itself is the point, but the whole facility.
Amazing, but what effect does this have on the environment?
Cephas Martin terrible effects. Chinese method. Baiyin is very much polluted today. Even the Chinese acknowledge that. Idk if china will ever get with the program on being more environmentally safe.
Okay so here i m leaving my comment, as this video will be in everyone's recommendation..... so see you soon!!
hey and hello, is that whole area (the ground) all metal now ?
Im getting that Osha is nowhere nearby vibe
perfect way to get rid of rapist and pedophiles oh and corporate crooks
Mercury for everybody!
so what will happen to the land they spill on? is it gonna be so many layer of copper?
Well, as anyone who has ever been to Baiyin will know, it's hardly the Garden of Eden now, but frankly it never was before. Doubtless, like many mining towns round the world it will be abandoned in due course. The slag with its locked in heavy metals is the least of their problems, the air pollution is appalling and the nearby Yellow River is suffering too, Search the web for "Baiyin Pollution", even the Chinese admit there are issues.
Check out this link for a horror list of problems:
english.caijing.com.cn/2007-12-20/100042456.html
I doubt if things have greatly improved since it was written. Our taxi driver had sent her daughter away to avoid the pollution and we never went back again.
It makes sense to use the steam engine because presumably they have plenty of coke/coal around.
I wonder how they remove slag in this quantity from the copper production. Will they use this for something else or is it just left like this ?
Copper slag has different properties from steel slag which is often used as a base for roads. According to Wikipedia it can be used as an abrasive, but whether it is economic to recover it from this site, who knows? Baiyin as a city is horribly polluted in every sense, I guess in due course it will be abandoned...
I’ve heard of cow tipping but not slag tipping. Seriously though interesting video 👍
A steam locomotive? What century are we in again?
a natureza agradece
I had tried to figure out actually where did this train dump this residual, but unfortunately for a first try I did not figured out exactly, due that it an industrial location, but its has only a few railways., according to your video background, it is in the reddish far as the eyes can see dunes, parallel to a tar road.
Mt recollection is that the area was to the south-east of the city.
@@internationalsteam thanks, I will look for this Mount
"The hill is lava."
that looks hellish
Nice.
That was COOL
It would be very useful for everyone in the world to know what technologies are key to our survival, old school still in use, in flux and changing, new and up and coming replacing old, and the forward looking we are going to make it happen.
this is filmed from the village nearby that has to deal with this shit every time they plant crops
"OK the strawberries should come in arou-AWWWW SON OF A BIIIIITCH!!!"
wow...how much usefull heat would be in this...!
Not as much as you would think.
not much considering once it cools you have to move it
Yeah, you move it with the train...
TNT.
And no way to extract it.
西方傳媒，真是用心良苦呀！
Steam train? Seriously? I guess it is a step forward from the horse carriage..
lol
what's the problem?? They are amazing!
If it aint broke don't fix it.
I agree. Especially when it's a "developing" country. steam trains are good in places where there is an abundance of coal. They can also be converted to run on natural gas or (!)less refined oil(!) that isn't yet ready to be used in diesel locomotives. There's also the fact that refining oil would take a lot more coal than the steam locomotive will use. Steam trains are more economical in areas where the market for refined fuels is minimal or non existent. There were even projects to supply third world countries with newly designed steam locomotives for that exact reason.😊
I'm guessing Solid fuel like coal or wood boiling water is safer than a tank of liquid fuel like Diesel moving giant vats of burning hot slag.
Neojhun they must have a way to deal with it...
It appears the train drive wheels got to close, they appear red hot.
I think something like this is the actual source of the "Lava Rock" i keep finding...
The whole steam thing train thing doesn’t surprise me at all. That’s what I respect about the Chinese the most, they let nothing stop them or slow them down, they get it done with what they have. I bet these guys here are more efficient with that old steam train than a steel mill with a brand new state of the art train here in the states. Like a few have already stated, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
was this shot in 144p? its excusable considering this was filmed in the 19th century
what type of liquefied material were they dumping and why?
It's the waste product from smelting copper, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_slag.
There's nothing special or unusual about metal smelting producing a slag. These days most smelters pour the slag on to water which makes for a material which is easier to handle for hard core / road base (steel) or as described in the article above. However, it is far less spectacular and just produces clouds of steam.
What happened to the video quality? First few seconds it was clear as a bell and then after the title came up it went to crap...
Ask Google. I've just checked and I can''t see the change in quality.
+Rob Dickinson well now it's seems ok. Must have been my service or something
0:53 why was the engine puffing when it was sitting still?
That's an air pump for the brakes. The pressure in the reservoir must be maintained or the loco will be unable to move when required.
Another excellent example of human unrespect toward mother nature
A) no it's not B) the word you're looking for is "disrespect"
but is normal pour out this material in nature ?
Not sure id want to be that close.
What grandpa would have seen in his day ,look at that!
Is this how ipads are made?
Worked in the slag industry not much changes dangerous work the steam engine was cool .
Waiting for a western film with that train...
Why do the train pour molten metal on the ground?
Slag is the waste, the leftovers - what do you figure is in that stuff?
the stone left over after extracting the copper melted down
Nice
was this all the 'waste' from the factory just poured into the enviroment?
Yes, it was dumped in a designated area and was standard for all Chinese smelters I visited. By its solid nature it was probably less harmful compared to a lot of the heavy metal waste which ended up in water courses, particularly the Yellow River not so far away. As I said before, if you want to read the detail check out this:
ttp://english.caijing.com.cn/2007-12-20/100042456.html
Great video. Industry is vital unless you live in the Stone Age.
**SLOW CLAP** SO CLEVER
Wow. Didnt think anyone but rail tours still used steam locomotives.
Well the video dates from 2005 and now (2022) there's just one place in China (Sandaoling) where you can see big steam like this.
steel slag you can buy cheap.. it gets ran through a kiln to remove sharp edges,and can be used on your driveway..
why they do that?
slags in a time machine- interesting
is that a steam locomotive???
Это, на какой планете?
What’s the point of this process ?
What is the point of dumping? just for trash? or to cover land?
Most slag is useless to the refining industry. We've found uses in the road sector and concrete industries but only with specific slags. So the usual practice is to dump it. Many places have banned it in the World though because of the long-term effects on the environment (ground poisoning). However China still has no bans.
makes great road base that stuff.
That's what I thought until I looked it up on Wikipedia. Copper slag is very different from steel slag which is indeed great hardcore. Turns out it's a great abrasive for scouring...
that was cool.
no, it was HOT
it was so hot that it was coolllllllllllll..... but I get your point. Nice video..
Why is this being done?
whatbis that is that a melted metal or what pls comment below guy I wanna know
No, it's what's left of the ore after the copper has been removed.
Are we able to actually build things from slag?
I can not think of a process that would turn this toxic useless mess into anything useful and still make a profit, hence Chinese dumping it, if Chinese throw ANYTHING away it is a good indication that it is REALLY useful for nothing ;)
slag is typically impure calcium silicate. it can be blown to make rock wool insulation. in some ways it is actually superior to fiberglass insulation. why the Chinese don't bother to do that, I don't know. certainly much of China experiences cold winters.
OLD STEAM ENGINE!!! OMG ALL THE CHEMICALS
Why??
I'm assuming they dump the slag and after awhile come back and reuse it. Is that right?
Not necessarily, it depends whether it has a value for reuse and from the discussion below concerning copper slag it's not in that great demand. The whole area east of the town with the smelter and the dumping area was a bit of a wasteland when we were there and there was a toxic yellow cloud above which meant you didn't hang around afterwards!
Check out www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Baiyin,+Gansu,+China, zoom in and use satellite view. It's easy to spot the area!
Rob Dickinson Wow you really can't miss it. Very fascinating! Thank you for sharing!
So what exactly is this slag stuff? and sorry but I dont see that yellow cloud? Is it that thing above that highway G109?
"Slag from steel mills in ferrous smelting, on the other hand, is designed to minimize iron loss and so mainly contains oxides of calcium, silicon, magnesium, and aluminium. Any sandy component or quartz component of the original ore automatically carries through the smelting process as silicon dioxide." (Wikipedia)
Environment? What's rhat
What is slag? I know its whats left over but is it just dirty metal
Impurities
Hello Rob Dickinson
Looks more like tomato soup to me.
We should tell hipsters this is where beard wax comes from.
Bro you know hipsters are usually pretty educated people?
This is on the moon...I think.
o que é isso q eles jogão?
cool train
Surely thats not all just slag?! The 2nd crucible is full when they tip it. Must be excess or something wrong with the mix
There are different components of slag, some are lighter lower melting silicates, others are heavy and have carbon born etc other glassy like compounds that come out of the steel when it's melted down.
It's like a Godzilla movie! ROWWRR!!
паровоз?