A note on the Gelatos: Fingers crossed that I'm wrong, and that they're still being produced!! Their not being produced any more was something I'd read elsewhere, and it seemed to be backed up by the lack of them in the UK, except for a few specific sets on Amazon and Ebay. They are still shown on the Faber Castell UK site, but are not for sale on there. The same few limited sets keep doing the rounds on UK sites - it doesn't seem like we've had any new stock for years. So far I've heard of greater availability in the US and Canada. If anyone knows any more, it would be good to hear!
@@ladyflimflam This has upset me to no end because that translucent set has some gorgeous colors that you just don't find in any paint/pigment stick (other than maybe the Neocolor ranges). Maybe that's why those are the ones that are sold out or I think that was the set that was sent out to some RUclipsrs to review and then people bought them. I've seen them on eBay for over $100 (as high as $240) and I just tell myself 'no' and that's too much. Those colors aren't even sold open stock. No idea why Faber Castell has not made more of a popular item. But their product strategies are often a mystery to me.
In the US, it's an on/off thing. Pastels and Creative sets and their big box are available, but expensive, and they don't have the quality of the originals. FB is inconsistent. They seem to go for watercolor pencils more now.
First, thank you so much for this really useful video! I had questions popping up in my mind and you answered them all:) Second, i live in germany and could not understand why i can hardly find them even here...and oh, the prices! So i wrote to Faber Castell. They simply answered that the product didn't sell in Europe which is why you can only get them in the US. I find that hard to believe, but, hey, it's not my company... I searched online and yes, you get all kinds of sets in us stores, even single sticks. always drives me nuts when i can't find specific art supplies where i live or they are violently expensive (let me just say "prismacolor").
US folks: Online, Blick has the Shuttle Art tempera paint sticks and also their "Thin Stix" which look more like the King Arts. Also, they have a ton of Gelato sets and a few open stock. Run, don't walk haha.
I was going to highly recommend the Kwik Stix brand of tempera paint sticks, too, and then I realized that is what Blick is selling (not Shuttle Art, that I can see.) I assume they are virtually identical. Kwik Stix has, as far as I can tell, some colors in their range which are not in the Shuttle Art range,
This video comes just at the perfect time. I'm totally obsessed with what I classify as "pigment sticks:" Gelatos, Neocolor I and II, gel crayons, paint sticks (though not the oil paint sticks nor the Daniel Smith water color sticks), silky crayons, Kwik Stix, KingArt, Shuttle Arts etc.. Tempera and Gouache. And there's some that are made specifically for bible highlighting (I never knew this was a thing) - they use gel highlighters because regular highlighters would bleed through the thin bible pages. Well, they come in some very nice muted tones and there's several companies that put them out. I'm enjoying just playing around. I'm less interested in using water with them. Seems like everybody wants to turn everything into a watercolor and while I love using the Neocolor II that way (and regular watercolor pencils), doing so with the gel sticks is less interesting than using them more like pastels or crayons. I like the way you had used the Gelatos in the past in you sketch books. Kwik Stix has a set of world skin tones that's really nice - lots of lovely complex browns, grays, neutrals, taupes etc...I think it was your Shuttle Arts pastel paint sticks video that kicked off my craze. ETA: your testing was really interesting. Showed the pros/cons of each medium. Your tests further solidified in my lack of interest in using the gel/paint sticks with water as it just seems like too much work to get the color to move and not leave streaks. Though maybe using water over them to create effects or use a stencil with a baby wipe would be interesting.
I don't particularly want to use these with water either - I love them as opaque as possible really in mixed media. I'm not familiar with the Kwik Stix, but I'm currently looking into the Distress Crayons because they too have some lovely muted colours.
@@helencryer I have the Distress Crayons. Some lovely colors up your alley. It might be a pro or con for you in that they come in these limited edition packs. Very smooth. That company (Ranger) also has a line of watercolor pencils and another of "pigment sticks." I haven't ventured into those. Also, seems to be that on the kids art products "water-soluble" means a little less than it does on regular art supplies. Less "use these as watercolors" and more "you'll be able to wash this off your kitchen table or out of clothes when you young child goes to town on them with the crayons."
I've picked out a couple of the Distress Crayons packs with the colours I most like. It says that they will dry out, so I'm very keen to see if they're another product that won't smudge in sketchbooks! I'm not interested in any more watercolour pencils - I have Albrecht Durer which I think are wonderful, for the limited times I want to use watercolour pencils!
Thank you for this great comparison. I have a small set of the Neocolor and I love them; they are so much fun to use. I was wondering about the others.
So informative and helpful info! Thank you! I have the Neo's and the Gelatos but was contemplating both the King Arts and the Woodys. After watching your comparisons I decided to stick with what I have. Although I'm intrigued by the Ranger Tim Holz Distress Crayons.
Good morning, perfect timing for me. I just bought my very first NeoColor2 crayons and getting ready to take on a little road trip to see fall foliage😁😅❤
Thanks so much for doing this comparison! I have the Kingart gel sticks and I haven't been using them, and now I will be using them more! I just purchased the full set of Neocolor IIs (Yay!😄) and I can't wait to start using them. I haven't swatched them out yet. I still have to swatch out the Kingart gel sticks too! Now to get some stabilo woodys and tempura paint sticks on my Dick Blick wish list! Thanks again Helen for reminding me to use what I have and enjoy my own stash! I really enjoy your videos so much! I reorganized my Kingart gel sticks too and put all the metallics in one container. It just made sense. Have a lovely week, and I look forward to your next video of comparisons, art supplies, reviews, a painting sesh with whatever medium you are enjoying at the moment, a splodge and scribble or whatever you have planned for us! It's always enjoyable!
This isn’t a dig at you many RUclipsrs compare neo colors to woodys but what they fail to mention is that Woodies are only half filled with pigment the end of it. The rest of it is just would Lindsey the frugal crafter actually shows this by sharpening one of the ends to see how far the pigment actually goes down and it has an extremely limited colour range, and if you live anywhere else outside where these are made, they are more expensive than Caran D’Ache neo colors.
Very thorough testing! I have the King art in my cart and already have the rest. I liked the Shuttle art for colored pencils over the top, and Neocolor and Stabilo Woody for re-wetting.
Lovely comparison video-thank you so much! I enjoyed seeing some examples of the ways you use them towards the end there. I’ve tried all of these products as well, and found that the Gelatos and the Stabilo Woody’s were not a great fit for me. Tempera sticks are quite new to me and have been a really fun addition to my mixed media works! I often use them for loose sketching when I’m working out an idea.
Morning Helen x I have had this set of Kingart gel sticks in my amazon basket for ages now...i havent brought them as i didnt know how they compare to the other similar mediums that u r comparing them to......got my cuppa and ready for your thoughts....u r always so truthful and through.....thank u Helen x love Alli XXX
This is a great comparison, Helen. I just purchased the pastel set of gelatos as well as some open stock colors I bought directly from the Faber Castello site. Although , they were pricey when buying direct. The gelatos were so nice on my watercolor sketch so I’m disappointed to hear they are no longer making them . I also have a few neocolor II’s so will compare them.
Thank you so much for making this comparision video. I was waiting for it. :) This has cemented my decision to buy the Shuttleart tempera sticks. The fact that they cannot be blended (i.e. accidentally blended/blurred on the page, with the side of your hand) is a big plus, for me. A shame that the pastel range is no longer available - but I am just now going to buy thru your link the regular 32 piece set - and treat myself! From this video, it looks like their vibrancy is comparable to Caran d'Ache, but for a fraction of the price. I won't be so "precious" about actually using them because of that! Many, many thanks!
Thanks!! That's why I love them so much too! I appreciate you using my links - thank you! There are some nice pastels in the 32 set - and the white is my favourite. I hope you really enjoy them!
Thank you for this video. I had owned the Gelatos before, and was wondering about the Kings Art. Thank you. All of the sticks seem lovely for their purposes.. I'm presently obsessed with oil pastels. I went to buy the water soluble type but instead ended up with Paul Rubens artist grade oil pastels, and a MIgyu? (can't recall the spelling) metallic set. I love both. So creamy. Thank you again for this lovely video. Have a great week.
Oil pastels are a great medium!! Really, I'm drawn to the mediums in this video because they remind me of oil pastels, but are just less messy and more suitable for sketchbooks - otherwise I'd probably just use oil pastels all the time! Thanks!
Right now on Canada's Amazon Faber-Castell has the Dolce ll 28 colours on sale (limited deal) for $72.15 if you're interested and Shuttle Art also has the pastel paint sticks.
What a great comparison test,I’ve been looking at the Kingart set over the gelatos for quite a while now,this has really been useful,I do have the shuttle classic set tho so maybe I should behave myself! Do feel I need a treat tho,after dodging Covid for four years (vulnerable husband) it finally got us somehow! Have been laid really low with it…..on a positive note I do have quite a few of yr video to catch up with 😊
As well as these, I use Distress Crayons which are readily available here. They are not cheap. The colours are really nice. They are very soft, a bit like the kingart ones, and mostly transparent to semi-transparent.
I really appreciate you putting them on Instagram - I have been pouring over your photo and working out which sets contain the most muted colours, and may have purchased some!! (Found some cheaper ones on eBay!)
Thank you so much, this is a really helpful comparison. Quite a question from the sideline but what do you use to sharpen the holbein soft white pencil? I go for a knife 'cause I found mine too soft and slippery to get sharpened in my pencil sharpeners. I'd say the stabilo woodys are quite expensive for what they are but I just love the junkiness. I use the woodys with the neocolors quite often together. If I'll ever get my hands on the pastell set of the shuttlearts I will definitely try them. For me personally the gelsticks and gelatos are just too smudgy and transparent.
This was so very helpful to me. I was looking to compare Kingart and Gelatos and learned about even more once I found your video. Gelatos are still available in the US but now I wonder if they are just old stock?
Interesting comparisons! Out of these products, I only have the Neocolor II’s (and love them), but it’s interesting to see how they compare with other products. I use them on top of watercolour, so they work well for how I use them. Although the other products are quite intriguing, I like the small amount of space that my neocolors occupy 😅.
Thank you for the comparison testing. I have all except the gelatos. I held off buying the woodys for a long time but they have edged carandache neo 2 colours off top spot. So much fun to use and hold but pretty pricey in Australia for what is meant to be for kids. And i was just reading in your comment section how short the actual centre is compared to the outside. Oh well.
Thank you for sharing. I have Kwik Stix which are another brand of tempura paint sticks. Cannot purchase individual sticks, but did see on US Amazon that I may purchase individual colors in sets of 12. They have white which I use quite a bit because of opacity. I also like the KingArt Gel Sticks. Help me keep my drawings loose in my sketchbook. Peace.
That was interesting. I love the size of the neocolors and with them being easily available here compared to the others, I'll probably only buy them. Looks like I might need to invest in some kind of fixative though because keeping bits of paper between the pages will drive me nuts over time lol. Jess Karp had a video about how she stops her pages rubbing off on each other a little while back. I can't remember much from it so I'll need to look again and take notes (perimenopause brain strikes again 😵💫)
Wow, this is interesting. You are so thorough! It is interesting to hear that the Gelatos are no longer being produced. Are you sure they are not manufactured for any market now? The Faber Castell USA website still shows a wide variety of them for sale, and Blick in the US also seems to have the full array with none marked as “limited quantities” as they typically are when an item has been discontinued. Maybe they just still have plenty of stock. I wonder if they have discontinued their Gel Crayons, which are made for kids, but are virtually identical to the Gelatos. They are supposedly less pigmented, but I have seen no difference. They could certainly be less lightfast, and the range of colors is much more limited. The KingArt crayons are intriguing.
I hope I'm wrong! It's something I heard elsewhere, and it seemed to be backed up by the lack of them in the UK, except for a few specific sets on Amazon and Ebay. They are still shown on the Faber Castell UK site, but are not for sale on there. The same few limited sets keep doing the rounds on UK sites - it doesn't seem like we've had any new stock for years.
Nice comparison, very informative. But why do you say Gelatos are not being produced anymore? They're still on Faber-Castell's website and are still avaible for sale all over.
Thanks! My set of Translucents doesn't seem available any more, and there seems to have been no new stock in the UK for a long time. They're still shown on the UK website, but not for sale on there. I'm glad to hear they might still be being produced! That's great news!
I have the Kingart Tempera sticks and like them. I don't feel particularly skilled with them as they are way more transparent than I expected. I've added them over parts of watercolor and liked them. I enjoyed your comparison.
Yes, though I can't find out to what standard they are tested (plus most my favourites have quite low Lightfast ratings), whereas the Neocolor II's are tested on the Blue Wool Scale.
Indeed, Caran d'Ache products are always excellent quality and made for artists. Woodys are formulated for children, where lightfastness is not such a priority. Additionally, if you sharpen the Woody from the other end, the lead inside is only 4-5 cm long, whereas the pencil is 10-12 cm long 😮. @@helencryer
@@berolinastrassmann the amount of product seems misleading, but there is also the element of needing them to be long enough for kids to hold. Their price though is not kid friendly.
@@helencryer yes they are not artist quality. I only have 3. Black and white are rated 5 stars but brown is only 2 which is disappointing. Very limited colour range too.
This was a great comparison, but I feel like the shuttle art tempera sticks were mismatched to the other products. You should have compared them to the King Art tempera paint sticks to be apples to apples, rather than the gel sticks (which are more like gelatos).
A note on the Gelatos: Fingers crossed that I'm wrong, and that they're still being produced!! Their not being produced any more was something I'd read elsewhere, and it seemed to be backed up by the lack of them in the UK, except for a few specific sets on Amazon and Ebay. They are still shown on the Faber Castell UK site, but are not for sale on there. The same few limited sets keep doing the rounds on UK sites - it doesn't seem like we've had any new stock for years.
So far I've heard of greater availability in the US and Canada.
If anyone knows any more, it would be good to hear!
The translucent set seems to be the one that’s really gone. I can find gelatos in other sets pretty easily.
@@ladyflimflam This has upset me to no end because that translucent set has some gorgeous colors that you just don't find in any paint/pigment stick (other than maybe the Neocolor ranges). Maybe that's why those are the ones that are sold out or I think that was the set that was sent out to some RUclipsrs to review and then people bought them. I've seen them on eBay for over $100 (as high as $240) and I just tell myself 'no' and that's too much. Those colors aren't even sold open stock. No idea why Faber Castell has not made more of a popular item. But their product strategies are often a mystery to me.
In the US, it's an on/off thing. Pastels and Creative sets and their big box are available, but expensive, and they don't have the quality of the originals. FB is inconsistent. They seem to go for watercolor pencils more now.
First, thank you so much for this really useful video! I had questions popping up in my mind and you answered them all:)
Second, i live in germany and could not understand why i can hardly find them even here...and oh, the prices! So i wrote to Faber Castell. They simply answered that the product didn't sell in Europe which is why you can only get them in the US. I find that hard to believe, but, hey, it's not my company... I searched online and yes, you get all kinds of sets in us stores, even single sticks. always drives me nuts when i can't find specific art supplies where i live or they are violently expensive (let me just say "prismacolor").
Very interesting and very useful, Helen. Thank you so much for putting in so much work with so much thought for our benefit.
Thank you! I enjoy it!
US folks: Online, Blick has the Shuttle Art tempera paint sticks and also their "Thin Stix" which look more like the King Arts. Also, they have a ton of Gelato sets and a few open stock. Run, don't walk haha.
Great! Thank you!
@@helencryer I was so happy to wake up to this video today!
I was going to highly recommend the Kwik Stix brand of tempera paint sticks, too, and then I realized that is what Blick is selling (not Shuttle Art, that I can see.) I assume they are virtually identical. Kwik Stix has, as far as I can tell, some colors in their range which are not in the Shuttle Art range,
@Anonymoi Ooooh, I didn't even look at that. They just looked like the same thing, and I assumed they were Shuttle Art! Thanks for the correction.
This video comes just at the perfect time. I'm totally obsessed with what I classify as "pigment sticks:" Gelatos, Neocolor I and II, gel crayons, paint sticks (though not the oil paint sticks nor the Daniel Smith water color sticks), silky crayons, Kwik Stix, KingArt, Shuttle Arts etc.. Tempera and Gouache. And there's some that are made specifically for bible highlighting (I never knew this was a thing) - they use gel highlighters because regular highlighters would bleed through the thin bible pages. Well, they come in some very nice muted tones and there's several companies that put them out. I'm enjoying just playing around. I'm less interested in using water with them. Seems like everybody wants to turn everything into a watercolor and while I love using the Neocolor II that way (and regular watercolor pencils), doing so with the gel sticks is less interesting than using them more like pastels or crayons. I like the way you had used the Gelatos in the past in you sketch books. Kwik Stix has a set of world skin tones that's really nice - lots of lovely complex browns, grays, neutrals, taupes etc...I think it was your Shuttle Arts pastel paint sticks video that kicked off my craze. ETA: your testing was really interesting. Showed the pros/cons of each medium. Your tests further solidified in my lack of interest in using the gel/paint sticks with water as it just seems like too much work to get the color to move and not leave streaks. Though maybe using water over them to create effects or use a stencil with a baby wipe would be interesting.
I don't particularly want to use these with water either - I love them as opaque as possible really in mixed media.
I'm not familiar with the Kwik Stix, but I'm currently looking into the Distress Crayons because they too have some lovely muted colours.
@@helencryer I have the Distress Crayons. Some lovely colors up your alley. It might be a pro or con for you in that they come in these limited edition packs. Very smooth. That company (Ranger) also has a line of watercolor pencils and another of "pigment sticks." I haven't ventured into those. Also, seems to be that on the kids art products "water-soluble" means a little less than it does on regular art supplies. Less "use these as watercolors" and more "you'll be able to wash this off your kitchen table or out of clothes when you young child goes to town on them with the crayons."
I've picked out a couple of the Distress Crayons packs with the colours I most like. It says that they will dry out, so I'm very keen to see if they're another product that won't smudge in sketchbooks!
I'm not interested in any more watercolour pencils - I have Albrecht Durer which I think are wonderful, for the limited times I want to use watercolour pencils!
Such a good comparison video! Thank you so much, Helen!
Thank you!
Thank you for this great comparison. I have a small set of the Neocolor and I love them; they are so much fun to use. I was wondering about the others.
Thank you! The Neocolor II's really are lovely!
So informative and helpful info! Thank you! I have the Neo's and the Gelatos but was contemplating both the King Arts and the Woodys. After watching your comparisons I decided to stick with what I have. Although I'm intrigued by the Ranger Tim Holz Distress Crayons.
Thanks! That's great - glad it was helpful!
If you are interested, I did a video on the Distress Crayons:
ruclips.net/video/EuNOPeQWI4U/видео.html
Good morning, perfect timing for me. I just bought my very first NeoColor2 crayons and getting ready to take on a little road trip to see fall foliage😁😅❤
Ooo, sounds lovely! Enjoy!
I just wanted to say you have beautiful hands ! And thanks for the comparison testing .
Thank you ☺️
Thanks so much for doing this comparison! I have the Kingart gel sticks and I haven't been using them, and now I will be using them more! I just purchased the full set of Neocolor IIs (Yay!😄) and I can't wait to start using them. I haven't swatched them out yet. I still have to swatch out the Kingart gel sticks too! Now to get some stabilo woodys and tempura paint sticks on my Dick Blick wish list! Thanks again Helen for reminding me to use what I have and enjoy my own stash! I really enjoy your videos so much! I reorganized my Kingart gel sticks too and put all the metallics in one container. It just made sense. Have a lovely week, and I look forward to your next video of comparisons, art supplies, reviews, a painting sesh with whatever medium you are enjoying at the moment, a splodge and scribble or whatever you have planned for us! It's always enjoyable!
Thanks so much!! Really hope you enjoy that mammoth swatching session!
Really love your comparison videos. Well thought out and thorough. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks so much!!
This isn’t a dig at you many RUclipsrs compare neo colors to woodys but what they fail to mention is that Woodies are only half filled with pigment the end of it. The rest of it is just would Lindsey the frugal crafter actually shows this by sharpening one of the ends to see how far the pigment actually goes down and it has an extremely limited colour range, and if you live anywhere else outside where these are made, they are more expensive than Caran D’Ache neo colors.
Thanks for letting people know! Yes, this was never going to be a comprehensive video - just comparing how they actually lay down.
Thank you for this incredible comprehensive review of these products. WOW
Thanks!
Very thorough testing! I have the King art in my cart and already have the rest. I liked the Shuttle art for colored pencils over the top, and Neocolor and Stabilo Woody for re-wetting.
Thanks!
Lovely comparison video-thank you so much! I enjoyed seeing some examples of the ways you use them towards the end there. I’ve tried all of these products as well, and found that the Gelatos and the Stabilo Woody’s were not a great fit for me. Tempera sticks are quite new to me and have been a really fun addition to my mixed media works! I often use them for loose sketching when I’m working out an idea.
Good to hear - thank you!
Morning Helen x I have had this set of Kingart gel sticks in my amazon basket for ages now...i havent brought them as i didnt know how they compare to the other similar mediums that u r comparing them to......got my cuppa and ready for your thoughts....u r always so truthful and through.....thank u Helen x love Alli XXX
I'm keen to hear your thoughts!
This is a great comparison, Helen.
I just purchased the pastel set of gelatos as well as some open stock colors I bought directly from the Faber Castello site. Although , they were pricey when buying direct. The gelatos were so nice on my watercolor sketch so I’m disappointed to hear they are no longer making them .
I also have a few neocolor II’s so will compare them.
It seems I might be wrong!! It doesn't seem possible to get much of the range in the UK though, and none for sale on the Faber-Castell site.
Thank you so much for making this comparision video. I was waiting for it. :) This has cemented my decision to buy the Shuttleart tempera sticks. The fact that they cannot be blended (i.e. accidentally blended/blurred on the page, with the side of your hand) is a big plus, for me. A shame that the pastel range is no longer available - but I am just now going to buy thru your link the regular 32 piece set - and treat myself! From this video, it looks like their vibrancy is comparable to Caran d'Ache, but for a fraction of the price. I won't be so "precious" about actually using them because of that! Many, many thanks!
Thanks!! That's why I love them so much too!
I appreciate you using my links - thank you! There are some nice pastels in the 32 set - and the white is my favourite. I hope you really enjoy them!
Thank you for this video. I had owned the Gelatos before, and was wondering about the Kings Art. Thank you. All of the sticks seem lovely for their purposes.. I'm presently obsessed with oil pastels. I went to buy the water soluble type but instead ended up with Paul Rubens artist grade oil pastels, and a MIgyu? (can't recall the spelling) metallic set. I love both. So creamy. Thank you again for this lovely video. Have a great week.
Oil pastels are a great medium!! Really, I'm drawn to the mediums in this video because they remind me of oil pastels, but are just less messy and more suitable for sketchbooks - otherwise I'd probably just use oil pastels all the time!
Thanks!
Right now on Canada's Amazon Faber-Castell has the Dolce ll 28 colours on sale (limited deal) for $72.15 if you're interested and Shuttle Art also has the pastel paint sticks.
Thanks!
What a great comparison test,I’ve been looking at the Kingart set over the gelatos for quite a while now,this has really been useful,I do have the shuttle classic set tho so maybe I should behave myself! Do feel I need a treat tho,after dodging Covid for four years (vulnerable husband) it finally got us somehow! Have been laid really low with it…..on a positive note I do have quite a few of yr video to catch up with 😊
I'm so sorry you're poorly! Hopefully this video will help you decide on what you'd like or can live without! Feel better soon!
As well as these, I use Distress Crayons which are readily available here. They are not cheap. The colours are really nice. They are very soft, a bit like the kingart ones, and mostly transparent to semi-transparent.
I really appreciate you putting them on Instagram - I have been pouring over your photo and working out which sets contain the most muted colours, and may have purchased some!! (Found some cheaper ones on eBay!)
Thank you so much, this is a really helpful comparison. Quite a question from the sideline but what do you use to sharpen the holbein soft white pencil? I go for a knife 'cause I found mine too soft and slippery to get sharpened in my pencil sharpeners.
I'd say the stabilo woodys are quite expensive for what they are but I just love the junkiness. I use the woodys with the neocolors quite often together. If I'll ever get my hands on the pastell set of the shuttlearts I will definitely try them. For me personally the gelsticks and gelatos are just too smudgy and transparent.
Thanks! I use the fat opening on the KUM double hole metal pencil sharpener, and it's always been fine.
This was so very helpful to me. I was looking to compare Kingart and Gelatos and learned about even more once I found your video. Gelatos are still available in the US but now I wonder if they are just old stock?
I'm really glad!
Interesting comparisons! Out of these products, I only have the Neocolor II’s (and love them), but it’s interesting to see how they compare with other products. I use them on top of watercolour, so they work well for how I use them. Although the other products are quite intriguing, I like the small amount of space that my neocolors occupy 😅.
Yes, the Neocolor tins are pleasingly flat!
Thank you for the comparison testing. I have all except the gelatos. I held off buying the woodys for a long time but they have edged carandache neo 2 colours off top spot. So much fun to use and hold but pretty pricey in Australia for what is meant to be for kids. And i was just reading in your comment section how short the actual centre is compared to the outside. Oh well.
The Woody's are just so satisfying to use! Unless you're using them loads, they'll still probably last for ages.
Thank you for sharing. I have Kwik Stix which are another brand of tempura paint sticks. Cannot purchase individual sticks, but did see on US Amazon that I may purchase individual colors in sets of 12. They have white which I use quite a bit because of opacity. I also like the KingArt Gel Sticks. Help me keep my drawings loose in my sketchbook. Peace.
Thanks! How do the Kwik Stix compare to KingArt Gel Sticks (or Shuttle Art Tempera Sticks, if you can tell?)
@@helencryer Kwik Stix are a tempura paint stick so I think from that and watching your video they are like the Shuttle Art Tempura Sticks. Peace.
Thank you!
I've found that if you use the tempera sticks on wet or damp paper, they're very bendable/smudgable. ❤
Thanks! Makes sense because that would prevent them drying out as quickly!
Ottimo lavoro. Grazie per la comparazione. Molto interessante. 👍
Thanks!
I needed this I was trying to see if I wanted to grab neocolor 2, I just bought king art!
Glad it was helpful!
Great job Thank you😍👏👏👏
Thanks!
That was interesting. I love the size of the neocolors and with them being easily available here compared to the others, I'll probably only buy them. Looks like I might need to invest in some kind of fixative though because keeping bits of paper between the pages will drive me nuts over time lol. Jess Karp had a video about how she stops her pages rubbing off on each other a little while back. I can't remember much from it so I'll need to look again and take notes (perimenopause brain strikes again 😵💫)
I only use paper with oil pastels/soft pastels/charcoal, and have resigned myself to a bit of transfer in my sketchbooks.
Wow, this is interesting. You are so thorough! It is interesting to hear that the Gelatos are no longer being produced. Are you sure they are not manufactured for any market now? The Faber Castell USA website still shows a wide variety of them for sale, and Blick in the US also seems to have the full array with none marked as “limited quantities” as they typically are when an item has been discontinued. Maybe they just still have plenty of stock. I wonder if they have discontinued their Gel Crayons, which are made for kids, but are virtually identical to the Gelatos. They are supposedly less pigmented, but I have seen no difference. They could certainly be less lightfast, and the range of colors is much more limited. The KingArt crayons are intriguing.
I hope I'm wrong! It's something I heard elsewhere, and it seemed to be backed up by the lack of them in the UK, except for a few specific sets on Amazon and Ebay. They are still shown on the Faber Castell UK site, but are not for sale on there. The same few limited sets keep doing the rounds on UK sites - it doesn't seem like we've had any new stock for years.
Wonderful comparison. I was thinking you didn’t have the Marabu art crayons to add to your comparison
I haven't heard of those ones before - I'm sure there are plenty that I don't have!
Nice comparison, very informative. But why do you say Gelatos are not being produced anymore? They're still on Faber-Castell's website and are still avaible for sale all over.
Thanks! My set of Translucents doesn't seem available any more, and there seems to have been no new stock in the UK for a long time. They're still shown on the UK website, but not for sale on there. I'm glad to hear they might still be being produced! That's great news!
Just because something is available in the US doesn't mean you can get it in the rest of the world.
Thank you! Very helpful.
Thanks!
I have the Kingart Tempera sticks and like them. I don't feel particularly skilled with them as they are way more transparent than I expected. I've added them over parts of watercolor and liked them. I enjoyed your comparison.
Thanks! I've still to use mine in a proper picture yet 😬
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The woodies have the lightfast rating on the side
Yes, though I can't find out to what standard they are tested (plus most my favourites have quite low Lightfast ratings), whereas the Neocolor II's are tested on the Blue Wool Scale.
Indeed, Caran d'Ache products are always excellent quality and made for artists. Woodys are formulated for children, where lightfastness is not such a priority. Additionally, if you sharpen the Woody from the other end, the lead inside is only 4-5 cm long, whereas the pencil is 10-12 cm long 😮. @@helencryer
@@berolinastrassmann the amount of product seems misleading, but there is also the element of needing them to be long enough for kids to hold. Their price though is not kid friendly.
@@helencryer yes they are not artist quality. I only have 3. Black and white are rated 5 stars but brown is only 2 which is disappointing. Very limited colour range too.
This was a great comparison, but I feel like the shuttle art tempera sticks were mismatched to the other products. You should have compared them to the King Art tempera paint sticks to be apples to apples, rather than the gel sticks (which are more like gelatos).
I didn't know those existed - they don't seem available in the UK. I was responding to a request to compare what I had.
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Helen Wonderful Thankyou. I did not know FC Gelatos were not being manufactured any more. 🪷🪷
Thanks! Edit: I might be wrong about the Gelatos! (Fingers crossed!) It seems people can still get hold of them more easily than in the UK.
Thankyou Helen. Happy that the Gelatos are still available. Wonderful product🪷🪷