Game designer here. If I ever wrote a weapon for a game of mine, named it DEFIANCE and didn't make it comedically terrifying, I'd deserve to have my license revoked.
Or, just hear me out, it starts out as weak, but does the SC2 void ray thing, but to an insane degree. Starts out tickling, but melts everything 3 enemies deep right before the reactor overheats.
There is a Defiance 'Mech in Battletech. It's Defiance Industries attempt at upgrading the Warhammer. Which worked. It's a better Warhammer. But at the cost of 2 and a half Warhammers. But Defiance industries at the time of designing the Defiance were playing politics. And they did so poorly. Getting some Mercs sent to their HQ basically. And the Defiance got passed over for a big military contract. For the Fafnir, which is another Defiance Industries product. Which is heavier than the Defiance. More heavily armed, yet for some reason cheaper.
A little fun fact. While the Atlas is a favorite of the Lyran Commonwealth it is mostly produced in the Federated Suns. This is the main reason why they have an Atlas III and not by the Lyrans
That reminds me of the leader of of one of the major factions whose fighting style specializes in ripping off parts of mechs or just wholesale grabbing lighter mechs and using them as weapons against their comrades . . . Yeah the guys fight style is basically just “Dress” from Baki
that fear line. I remember playing mechwarrior 5 and the first time I saw an atlas on the field, it rolled out from behind a heavy wall that kept it off sensors. As soon as I saw that skull I went full "S**T S**T S**T! FALLBACK!"
Remind me of one of Mechwarrior Online trailers where a Warhammer pushes forward into a cloud of dust only to come face to face with an Atlas. That shit was terrifying.
My favorite Atlas variant is the one with six missile hardpoints because I just load that thing with SRM6s. My friends call it the Splatlas, big brother of the Splatapult that runs a similarly themed loadout. Just outright deletes anything lighter than 60 tons in one shot. 60+ takes two.
All I can think about is trying to animate a wrestling match between an Atlas and some lighter Mech like a Hatchetman or something, just to send to this channel. For Soup Stock.
@@stormsurge2103I just looted one from the arena, am gonna trick it out w/ masc and a 400xl engine/ assault greatsword which I think is heavier than the axe and does more damage. Itll probably sprint for about 81kph 😅😂
It's a canon Mech effectively: The Berserker. 100 tons, hatchet, Class 400 XL engine and MASC. So it's as fast as a Banshee, and goes up to as fast as a Charger once that MASC is activated. While still having Atlas levels of armor. Also it has ECM, an anti-missile system, a head-mounted flamer (just so the Poor Bloody Infantry don't feel left out) and two large pulse lasers and an ER PPC to have some fun while rolling in. And then there's the variant with a light engine, C3 unit, tripple strenght myomer and a massive brace of ER medium lasers in palce of the large pulse lasers, so it can activate that TSM very reliably. Made, of course, by the nice people from Defiance Industries.
Pirate variants in the YAML mods for MW5 almost all have melee weapon hardpoints. You could have an Atlast AS7-P with a claymore if you want. I run a pirate Cyclops in my current playthrough that goes 80kph with a greatsword in one hand and an LBX20(c) in the other.
A long long time ago, in Mechwarrior 4, I used to run an Atlas that had all the normal weapons replaced with 4 large lasers and an SRM 6. The rest of the weight, I put into armour and most notably, engines. It was the best performing mech I've ever ran in the multiplayer lobbies my friends and I used to run. Yeah, it was an Atlas that could run. At 65km/h on a flat surface.
The Atlas is the in-game equivalent of if Andre the Giant was a giant robot... It's big and imposing, slow but powerful, and it packs one hell of a punch while being somewhat hard to take down. But if you take it to the ground it'll be pretty much over. It's highly revered and widely acknowledged as one of the greatest ever, but everyone knows it has flaws and how to exploit them. Just... Don't let it close. Under any circumstance. If it closes you probably haven't taken out the mechs trying to flank you and it's going to grab one of those little mechs and beat you with it...
It is a joke. The Lyrans have a bad habit of appointing inept commanders for political reasons, and also enough industrial infrastructure to rival two or three other great houses at once. End result is that they have a doctrine of attrition and just keep producing heavier mechs in greater numbers than anyone else. So they compenste for operational ineptitude with oversized mechs than just outgun everything else. Hence the Steiner Scout Lance, 400 tonnes of stompy mechs.
@@justanabramspassingbyYou probably won’t see, but in one of the mechwarrior games there was footage of ‘mechs attacking a city, one of them being an Atlas. The news anchor covering the footage says that the city was attacked by a contingent of ‘light ‘mechs’. So since then the Atlas has been considered a scout mech, and since the Steiners have more money than god, everyone says the Steiner scout lance is just 5 Atlases
Wait, 1:20, Steve is a real person? I've watched 4(?) videos with no Steve and was convinced it was just a running gag, lol, like that old video series from The Onion that goes "I'm ____ , filling in for ______, who [ridiculous excuse here]."
The mech getting force-fed its teeth by an Atlas in that picture is a warhawk. Dire Wolf arms usually have stubbier gun barrels where as that looks like the ERPPCs employed by warhawks. Still impressive
The fact that it's a Warhawk makes it even more nonsensical. Why the fuck would a Warhawk pilot EVER let an Atlas get that close? You're faster, you have more firepower, your guns have longer range, your targeting computer allows you to make called shots so you can literally core an Atlas with two salvoes before he can even shoot back even if you're both running straight towards each other at maximum speed (well, he'll get a salvo of LRMs off, but that's it). Seriously, what the fuck are you doing in melee range? At least a Dire Wolf can't outrun the Atlas. And it doesn't come with a targeting computer standard in every configuration, though given the absurd firepower it brings to bear it would probably rip an Atlas apart in about the same amount of time
@The PirateMongoose you're right, but if I had to guess meta wise, rule of cool, and in lore, that pilot's best skill was outrunning commonsense. That or it's a cool propaganda pic
@@thepiratemongoose8965clanners are pretty crazy, and smart atlas pilot can try to bait him into coming into a cramped city where it's alot harder to keep range. Before tukkiyid clanners impressions of the innersphere was very low so they seriously believed that they needed to keep moving forward and steam role the opposition. Their thinking, by intent by fasa, was meant to be alien by design and most players who play clan usually play it wrong. They don't just give up their code of conduct just because of a single, or sometimes multiple infractions. To give up on it is to give up on kerensky and most would just kill themselves before, and some probably did especially early clan invasion and prior.
The Atlas is what made me dislike assault mechs, slow as a snail and mostly a short-range combatant. My introduction to the setting was Mechcommander 2 with very open terrain, which made it practically worthless. Then I swapped out the weapons and made a pseudo-Atlas II and my opinion changed. That thing was a monster, anything that got in the range of the AC10 and the ER lasers just died. I still prefer more mobile and lighter mechs that can decide the combat range. Still, I can't hate the ugly thing. It stomps things.
Ahh, the Atlas, literally my favorite mech and the one that got me into battletech, nothing says assault, like 100 tons of armor with enough fire power to say "fuck you" to an entire lance of mechs while you smoke a cigar inside your Deaths head cockpit .
18:10 I always put max jump jets on my assaults to minimize the chances of them getting flanked and to basically be able to ignore terrain when traversing the battlefield. But there are better loadouts for long-range Atlases than 2 PPC and 1 Gauss. My current favorite is 2 LB2X, 2 LL, 2 ERLL, LRM15+LRM5. I also put in 1 ERSL and 2 MG to deal with any rude strangers or birds who want to get into my personal space. Seriously, washing bird guano off is a real chore.
I love the Atlas! I was once playing the Battletech ttrpg with a group and when we were all rolling what mechs we’re starting out with from the RATs we got 3 lights and 2 mediums… then I rolled an Atlas lmao. Best part was my character was supposed to be done back country hick so I decided he found it buried in his crop field then piloted it for the planet militia and had a locust leg for a leg actuator
Need to collaborate with Tex from Black Pants Legion. Guaranteed the epicness of his voice with your ideas would have battalions of artists scrambling to depict if not animate these glorious scenarios.
I love me personal atlas I used in MW5. Jump jets, stupid amount of armor, and 10 medium lasers. It wasn't fast, or flashy, But disco death mode was fun then I punch things in the face really really hard
The gun on the Atlas 3 is a RAC 10, also the right arm has a heavy mech shield which serves to counterbalance the weight of the RAC on the left. I have the original dossier from Wizkids when they came up with the thing back in the early 2000's. Not sure if they changed it later on but this is how they explained it back then.
Fun scenario: a lance is supposed to take a city but is badly damaged except the Atlas they kept in the rear because it would be too expensive to repair. But with no alternative, the pilot picks up a headshot mech and uses it as a shield on approach, tossing it as a nuclear grenade when the reactor goes critical.
Up to 3rd edition the Warhammer Graced the cover of the Battletech game box (Ironically with many of the MBR-04 Destroid Tomahawk's UN Spacy Markings from Macross). Then the FASA/Playmates, then Harmony Gold/FASA lawsuits happened, and by 4th edition, enter The Timberwolf on the 4th edition Game box cover. May have ended up there anyway, The Timber Wolf is a powerful and popular mech, but, one must not forget that the timing Warhammer became an unseen at a similar time probably had something to do with it.
Depends on when- as mentioned in other comments, Warhammer and Atlas dominated the early art, while the Marauder was often the pinnacle of the sourcebooks and literature. The MadCat showed up ~early 90s with the Clan Invasion. After the shitshow that was Jihad/DarkAge/Early IlClan, I have zero idea what is the current face of the IP, although the Atlas maintains a popular and distinct presence in both canon and non-canon art; it's face is still the logo for HBS' Battletech video game.
Y'all make very good points. That's part of why I was open to having it being shared. Especially since Timberwolf gets decked every five seconds in the mechwarrior intros 🤣
17:36 I absolutely LOVED that version of the Atlas. What's more terrifying than an atlas? What if ... *IT CAN FLY?* AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Honestly when I first played that mission all those years ago as a kid it was unbelievably terrifying when that guy just bloody jumped out of the base right in front of my lance. He blew off an arm of one of my mechs *mid flight* with the gauss rifle no less. And then proceeded to disrupt my entire lance because he landed right in front of them.
I'd argue that the Timber Wolf is more well known in our world. It was the poster child of Battletech and Mechwarrior during the 1990s and gained A LOT of animosity from IS players who rolled eyes at the meme mech of FASA.
14:37 don't know if it has been said or if you figured this out later but the mech getting its face folded in is a Warhawk, the direwolf shares a pretty similar design with it correction number 2: Atlas 3 uses a Rac 2 ... a variant of the Atlas 3 however uses probably TEH most ludicrous of a gun which is a Hyper Assault Gauss 30 (there's also a HAG 40 ... you know ... BECAUSE!)
So in battletech extended mod i rigged my atlas with ecm and best melee mod i can find and flamethrowers. He just runs into enemy formation to punch out enemy mechs and occasionally overheat his victims
The atlas is a generalist mech. It has good armor, decent weapons, par speed. If you want a battletech a-10, you're looking at the Annihilator, or the Bane. Bunch'a gunbeds on bricks
The Atlas is more a "I am still breathing and I am about to make this EVERYONE ELSES PROBLEM" mech then an A-10 like mech. It wasn't built around any weapon or idea other then that.
@@averywhitaker3513 Eh, if you want Mech built around a bigass gun, it's the Hunchback or Hollander. Or the Mechbuster or Lightning or Transit, for aircraft.
May I recommend the college short film Mechwarrior: Age of Destruction here on RUclips? It has an Atlas III among other mechs beautifully animated, kicking the crud out of each other.
I remember how in 1 job in mech warrior 5 my Lance almost got decimated by just 1 Atlas, took a mech, 3 arms and a leg with him, what finally put him to the ground was a punch from my almost destroyed Warhammer
15:00 That's a Warhawk, not a Direwolf. It's jowl-armor plate is seen under the violating fist and the heavy brow armor is over the forearm. The image is just an astronaut decking the shit out of a bloodhound for being in the way.
Ah yes, the rac...2 a big (not) gun capable of coring an assault mech in... 6-7 turns. (Thats 60-70 seconds for yall outside of the tabletop.) And that gun jams more often than a rock band.
20:41 ... This reminds me that in MWO I decided to make a Uziel Mech who's entire armament is 2 RAC/5's. It's basically a cockpit sandwiched between the two massive guns with enough ammo to blot out the sun and some tin foil to pretend it has armor. ... Arms? what are those?... To be fair, unlike the Atlas III, I did balance out the "Full Potato" by giving it one in each torso ... or more accurately making each of it's torsos a gun.
I believe the Solaris Arena promoters were looking for you Insanity. They needed you as the new MC for their upcoming exhibition matches between Rusty Thrashcan the humble urbie and Big Stompy the Atlas. ^.^
Lol, always loved the atlas. In MWO I got my hands on an ECM Atlas and loaded it up with an ac-20, 3 srm6's and large or medium lasers for weight, with max armour and a standard engine so I could zombie mech reliably. Turns out its real good at jumpscares and movie monster shenanigans.
The end bit of the fight had my mind wondering why that Light Mech wasnt dead through the first 3 seconds. Then made up some stupid idea the pilot modified that mech to take a beating with hopes that his buddies do the damage....but the buddies saw the start and decided to choose life.
Unfortunately, the only vehicle capable of carrying an atlas is the Heavy Battlemech Recovery Vehicle, and to do so, it reduces its top speed from 64kph to 32 kph, slower than the Atlas riding it. Now theoretically if you had the time to equip a Battlemech Recovery Vehicle (50t version of the 70t HBRV) with Lift Hoists, you could carry around an Atlas at 64kph, roughly 10kph faster then it's top speed, but understandably it'd be impossible for it to fire from atop it as the recoil would likely topple the precariously balanced mech and vehicle alike. Also, on the table top an Atlas' punch only does 10 Damage, so depending on where it hits, a Stinger could very well survive the first blow.
Say the word ATLAS to an Inner Sphere MechWarrior and he/she shudders, remembering their encounters with it. Say it again, they’ll tell you just how lucky they were to survive…
I remember in the old lvl1 days an Atlas was dropped by a lance of ac 20 toting urbies during a city invasion by the Lyrans. Another time I seen a single locust drop an Atlas from attacking it from behind using hit and run tactics during a lvl 1 double blind game, sure he scored a 2* on the spot holding the AC 20 ammunition with a Machine gun but a win is a win. So how in the world can anyone be scared of this overgrown paperweight?
The RAC5 isn't considered a very good weapon on the tabletop, it has a high jam chance. You generally have to fire in bursts of 5 and because of the cluster table only 2-3 of those shots hit plus they scatter in different locations meaning you don't get armour penetrations. Its sometimes better than an AC10 but not as good as an UAC10, AC20, or Gauss.
I have to be a spoilsport. Afaik a Mech can only lift 10% of his weight with one arm 20% with both. "Here comes the Commando, around the corner, he runs into the Atlas. Atlas gives Fist to the chest, Commando flies to the Back, Atlas follows, grabs right arm, yank it out of the Commando. Commando stands up, Atlas grabbles him, lift him over his head. (without Arm with the KSR4 it is now below 20T) slams him into the Ground and give him a good kick." that would be possible. This is important when it comes to improvised Weapon: "The Altas runs dry, he grabs the Arm of the Warhammer and use it to beat the Rifleman into peaces !" That are infact Battlemech 1.0 Rules about Melee combat.
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14:55 Uhhh that's actually a Warhawk being punched by the Atlas. It doesn't matter. Its destroyed but for identification purposes, it has the 2 long PPC barrels in each arm and the LRM 10 on the shoulder. The Dire Wolf just has the little stubby Large laser ports in the arms.
Game designer here.
If I ever wrote a weapon for a game of mine, named it DEFIANCE and didn't make it comedically terrifying, I'd deserve to have my license revoked.
Or, just hear me out, it starts out as weak, but does the SC2 void ray thing, but to an insane degree. Starts out tickling, but melts everything 3 enemies deep right before the reactor overheats.
There is a Defiance 'Mech in Battletech. It's Defiance Industries attempt at upgrading the Warhammer. Which worked. It's a better Warhammer. But at the cost of 2 and a half Warhammers. But Defiance industries at the time of designing the Defiance were playing politics. And they did so poorly. Getting some Mercs sent to their HQ basically. And the Defiance got passed over for a big military contract. For the Fafnir, which is another Defiance Industries product. Which is heavier than the Defiance. More heavily armed, yet for some reason cheaper.
@@JPG.01 never fails to use Bureaucracy to create a bridge between projects, mechwarriors, companies, and contracts out of Bureaucratic Walls.
A little fun fact. While the Atlas is a favorite of the Lyran Commonwealth it is mostly produced in the Federated Suns. This is the main reason why they have an Atlas III and not by the Lyrans
Because Dakka.
I thought the Lyran's favorite was the Zeus?
@@garlicbread529 Zeus is their most mass produced Assault but they consider it light for its duties XD
@@Axzealot thier will always a Zeus in a lyran lance and command plain and simple.
Oh yeah? I bet those Federated Suns weenies never built a scout atlas...
The way to balance the Atlas-3 is, to pickup a light mech with the other hand and hold it as extra armor in front of it.
So basically it picks up a hoplight
So basically a shield. A "meatshield" if you will....
A mechshield!
They took away my counterweight, but your body will substitute nicely
That reminds me of the leader of of one of the major factions whose fighting style specializes in ripping off parts of mechs or just wholesale grabbing lighter mechs and using them as weapons against their comrades . . . Yeah the guys fight style is basically just “Dress” from Baki
The TF Heavy laughter coupled with the Atlas combat footage was brilliant.
"That mech is so ugly, that it is beautiful..."
-some mechwarrior
(Points at your quote)
"DAS ME!"
When you need to pilot a Macho-Man-Randy-Savage sorta metal monster into combat.
Expect the unexpected in the Kingdom of Madness! Ooooh yeah!
@@Mechabang oooooh yeah!
Da creme of da crop will rise to the top'ah!
Nah, that's a Charger with hardened armor and all weapons replaced with a head-mounted flamer.🤪
that fear line. I remember playing mechwarrior 5 and the first time I saw an atlas on the field, it rolled out from behind a heavy wall that kept it off sensors. As soon as I saw that skull I went full "S**T S**T S**T! FALLBACK!"
Remind me of one of Mechwarrior Online trailers where a Warhammer pushes forward into a cloud of dust only to come face to face with an Atlas. That shit was terrifying.
@@davidriadi7999that trailer was technically for Mechwarrior 5 before they pivoted to making MW:O
Your Atlas wrestling commentary earned you a sub.
Well done sir
That Macho man at the beginning was actually really good.
My favorite Atlas variant is the one with six missile hardpoints because I just load that thing with SRM6s. My friends call it the Splatlas, big brother of the Splatapult that runs a similarly themed loadout.
Just outright deletes anything lighter than 60 tons in one shot. 60+ takes two.
23:57 All I can think of is a Battlemech wrestling tournament in the Lyran Commonwealth arenas...it is glorious
All I can think about is trying to animate a wrestling match between an Atlas and some lighter Mech like a Hatchetman or something, just to send to this channel. For Soup Stock.
Solaris 7 be like XD
"we don't engage in no fair fights" Did Steve slide an El-P lyric in there when no one was lookin?
I picture an Atlas picking up a Javelin and then throwing it like an actual javelin into another mech.
Throws it like that one javelin thrower who nearly killed the camera man in a competition with one
An Atlas with a hatchet would be terrifying. It could potentially one shot any mech, or sever arms with one chop.
You can get an Axe-Atlas in MW5 and that is absolutely the optimal way to use it.
@@stormsurge2103I just looted one from the arena, am gonna trick it out w/ masc and a 400xl engine/ assault greatsword which I think is heavier than the axe and does more damage.
Itll probably sprint for about 81kph 😅😂
In tabletop a friend had an Atlas with TSM and a mace. It was terrifying.
It's a canon Mech effectively: The Berserker. 100 tons, hatchet, Class 400 XL engine and MASC. So it's as fast as a Banshee, and goes up to as fast as a Charger once that MASC is activated. While still having Atlas levels of armor. Also it has ECM, an anti-missile system, a head-mounted flamer (just so the Poor Bloody Infantry don't feel left out) and two large pulse lasers and an ER PPC to have some fun while rolling in.
And then there's the variant with a light engine, C3 unit, tripple strenght myomer and a massive brace of ER medium lasers in palce of the large pulse lasers, so it can activate that TSM very reliably.
Made, of course, by the nice people from Defiance Industries.
Pirate variants in the YAML mods for MW5 almost all have melee weapon hardpoints. You could have an Atlast AS7-P with a claymore if you want. I run a pirate Cyclops in my current playthrough that goes 80kph with a greatsword in one hand and an LBX20(c) in the other.
A long long time ago, in Mechwarrior 4, I used to run an Atlas that had all the normal weapons replaced with 4 large lasers and an SRM 6. The rest of the weight, I put into armour and most notably, engines. It was the best performing mech I've ever ran in the multiplayer lobbies my friends and I used to run. Yeah, it was an Atlas that could run. At 65km/h on a flat surface.
Yikes! That sounds both fun, and terrifying!
2:27 - Oh dude, once when played MW5 I hit a fucking FLEA with the Battle Axe from the Atlas. The thing fucking crumpled.
Funniest thing I ever did was Black Knight a mech using the AS7-P. By that I mean the Black Knight sketch from Monty Python.
The Atlas is the in-game equivalent of if Andre the Giant was a giant robot...
It's big and imposing, slow but powerful, and it packs one hell of a punch while being somewhat hard to take down. But if you take it to the ground it'll be pretty much over. It's highly revered and widely acknowledged as one of the greatest ever, but everyone knows it has flaws and how to exploit them. Just...
Don't let it close. Under any circumstance. If it closes you probably haven't taken out the mechs trying to flank you and it's going to grab one of those little mechs and beat you with it...
Aw man no mention of the Steiner Scout Squad?
*accordion intensifies*
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Wait, they scout with THAT?
@@justanabramspassingby indeed sir. Look up the Steiner Scout Squad adventures. Shits hilarious.
It is a joke.
The Lyrans have a bad habit of appointing inept commanders for political reasons, and also enough industrial infrastructure to rival two or three other great houses at once.
End result is that they have a doctrine of attrition and just keep producing heavier mechs in greater numbers than anyone else.
So they compenste for operational ineptitude with oversized mechs than just outgun everything else.
Hence the Steiner Scout Lance, 400 tonnes of stompy mechs.
@@justanabramspassingbyYou probably won’t see, but in one of the mechwarrior games there was footage of ‘mechs attacking a city, one of them being an Atlas. The news anchor covering the footage says that the city was attacked by a contingent of ‘light ‘mechs’. So since then the Atlas has been considered a scout mech, and since the Steiners have more money than god, everyone says the Steiner scout lance is just 5 Atlases
''Say hello steve!''
.........
Playing Dragon's Gambit co-op on mission 7.
Suddenly Atlas out of nowhere.
[screams internally]
Me: ATLAS! Everybody shoot it!
Love the Samurai Jack pictures thrown in!
@4:19 If you had to pick a mech to represent the entire IP you'd have to pick the Atlas.
...Timber Wolf/Mad Cat laughs at your 'distinctive' mech.
AS7 DDC has ecm so that smack down you mentioned in the city would be even more of a surprise execution.
I love the cracking and 'sploding sound whenever my dual UAC/20 King Crab cores out an Atlas in a single volley
This is why I am a Crab pilot. King, normal, or Hermit- I love me all the Crabs!
Finally! I was wondering why there wasn't a video yesterday! But then again with Steve chained in the basement begging for food does take priority...
"Dr. Atlas diagnoses you with DEATH!" had me rolling, that was just amazing. xD
Wait, 1:20, Steve is a real person? I've watched 4(?) videos with no Steve and was convinced it was just a running gag, lol, like that old video series from The Onion that goes "I'm ____ , filling in for ______, who [ridiculous excuse here]."
The mech getting force-fed its teeth by an Atlas in that picture is a warhawk. Dire Wolf arms usually have stubbier gun barrels where as that looks like the ERPPCs employed by warhawks. Still impressive
Well...... It WAS a Warhawk..... Now it's salvage. lol
The fact that it's a Warhawk makes it even more nonsensical. Why the fuck would a Warhawk pilot EVER let an Atlas get that close? You're faster, you have more firepower, your guns have longer range, your targeting computer allows you to make called shots so you can literally core an Atlas with two salvoes before he can even shoot back even if you're both running straight towards each other at maximum speed (well, he'll get a salvo of LRMs off, but that's it). Seriously, what the fuck are you doing in melee range?
At least a Dire Wolf can't outrun the Atlas. And it doesn't come with a targeting computer standard in every configuration, though given the absurd firepower it brings to bear it would probably rip an Atlas apart in about the same amount of time
@The PirateMongoose you're right, but if I had to guess meta wise, rule of cool, and in lore, that pilot's best skill was outrunning commonsense. That or it's a cool propaganda pic
@@D3rpp00l stupid thing got in close instead of maintain distance and let the quad er ppcs do the talking.
@@thepiratemongoose8965clanners are pretty crazy, and smart atlas pilot can try to bait him into coming into a cramped city where it's alot harder to keep range. Before tukkiyid clanners impressions of the innersphere was very low so they seriously believed that they needed to keep moving forward and steam role the opposition. Their thinking, by intent by fasa, was meant to be alien by design and most players who play clan usually play it wrong. They don't just give up their code of conduct just because of a single, or sometimes multiple infractions. To give up on it is to give up on kerensky and most would just kill themselves before, and some probably did especially early clan invasion and prior.
The Atlas is what made me dislike assault mechs, slow as a snail and mostly a short-range combatant. My introduction to the setting was Mechcommander 2 with very open terrain, which made it practically worthless.
Then I swapped out the weapons and made a pseudo-Atlas II and my opinion changed. That thing was a monster, anything that got in the range of the AC10 and the ER lasers just died.
I still prefer more mobile and lighter mechs that can decide the combat range. Still, I can't hate the ugly thing. It stomps things.
Ahh, the Atlas, literally my favorite mech and the one that got me into battletech, nothing says assault, like 100 tons of armor with enough fire power to say "fuck you" to an entire lance of mechs while you smoke a cigar inside your Deaths head cockpit .
Besides the got me into battletech, all of that is true for me
18:10 I always put max jump jets on my assaults to minimize the chances of them getting flanked and to basically be able to ignore terrain when traversing the battlefield. But there are better loadouts for long-range Atlases than 2 PPC and 1 Gauss. My current favorite is 2 LB2X, 2 LL, 2 ERLL, LRM15+LRM5. I also put in 1 ERSL and 2 MG to deal with any rude strangers or birds who want to get into my personal space. Seriously, washing bird guano off is a real chore.
The other face of the franchise: The Urbanmech!
That walking trash can?
I love the Atlas! I was once playing the Battletech ttrpg with a group and when we were all rolling what mechs we’re starting out with from the RATs we got 3 lights and 2 mediums… then I rolled an Atlas lmao. Best part was my character was supposed to be done back country hick so I decided he found it buried in his crop field then piloted it for the planet militia and had a locust leg for a leg actuator
These just get better and better. I think 2 am is a good time to develop scripts and even better without coffee, or too much coffee.
Need to collaborate with Tex from Black Pants Legion. Guaranteed the epicness of his voice with your ideas would have battalions of artists scrambling to depict if not animate these glorious scenarios.
I love me personal atlas I used in MW5. Jump jets, stupid amount of armor, and 10 medium lasers. It wasn't fast, or flashy, But disco death mode was fun then I punch things in the face really really hard
DFA works very well when you're using an Atlas.
The MadCat used to be the poster boy of the franchise but my favorite IS assault mech will do
"Steiner Steiner, uber alles"...
-- Usually the last thing heard before your Mech lance gets the ever-lovin' crap scouted out of it.
The gun on the Atlas 3 is a RAC 10, also the right arm has a heavy mech shield which serves to counterbalance the weight of the RAC on the left. I have the original dossier from Wizkids when they came up with the thing back in the early 2000's. Not sure if they changed it later on but this is how they explained it back then.
Nope its a RAC 2 not 10. There is a variant that replaces the RAC with a clan HAG 30
@@smokey_mcbong Not even a RAC5?
@@DIEGhostfish Not that I am aware of. Officially anyway.
Remember the mantra of soldiers everywhere: "I hate fair fights."
Fun scenario: a lance is supposed to take a city but is badly damaged except the Atlas they kept in the rear because it would be too expensive to repair. But with no alternative, the pilot picks up a headshot mech and uses it as a shield on approach, tossing it as a nuclear grenade when the reactor goes critical.
The Atlas is one of the most dominant mechs to ever walk the battlefield. Excellent job
You need to do an entire video on Solaris Seven and the Mech Arenas.
I believe the face of the franchise goes to Timberwolf. If not they both share that honor.
Up to 3rd edition the Warhammer Graced the cover of the Battletech game box (Ironically with many of the MBR-04 Destroid Tomahawk's UN Spacy Markings from Macross). Then the FASA/Playmates, then Harmony Gold/FASA lawsuits happened, and by 4th edition, enter The Timberwolf on the 4th edition Game box cover. May have ended up there anyway, The Timber Wolf is a powerful and popular mech, but, one must not forget that the timing Warhammer became an unseen at a similar time probably had something to do with it.
List of Battletech poster boys.
Atlas, Timber Wolf (esp if you are Clan player), Warhammer, Battlemaster, Bushwacker.
Depends on when- as mentioned in other comments, Warhammer and Atlas dominated the early art, while the Marauder was often the pinnacle of the sourcebooks and literature. The MadCat showed up ~early 90s with the Clan Invasion. After the shitshow that was Jihad/DarkAge/Early IlClan, I have zero idea what is the current face of the IP, although the Atlas maintains a popular and distinct presence in both canon and non-canon art; it's face is still the logo for HBS' Battletech video game.
Y'all make very good points. That's part of why I was open to having it being shared. Especially since Timberwolf gets decked every five seconds in the mechwarrior intros 🤣
@@vldreck1 Don't you mean Mad Cat? :)
Cool video. More please. I also appreciate the Atlas's hands 👐 rated E for Every Mech'
17:36 I absolutely LOVED that version of the Atlas. What's more terrifying than an atlas? What if ... *IT CAN FLY?* AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Honestly when I first played that mission all those years ago as a kid it was unbelievably terrifying when that guy just bloody jumped out of the base right in front of my lance. He blew off an arm of one of my mechs *mid flight* with the gauss rifle no less. And then proceeded to disrupt my entire lance because he landed right in front of them.
I'd argue that the Timber Wolf is more well known in our world. It was the poster child of Battletech and Mechwarrior during the 1990s and gained A LOT of animosity from IS players who rolled eyes at the meme mech of FASA.
14:37 don't know if it has been said or if you figured this out later but the mech getting its face folded in is a Warhawk, the direwolf shares a pretty similar design with it
correction number 2: Atlas 3 uses a Rac 2 ...
a variant of the Atlas 3 however uses probably TEH most ludicrous of a gun which is a Hyper Assault Gauss 30 (there's also a HAG 40 ... you know ... BECAUSE!)
If Atlas is the Armor... Then Mad Cat is the hammer
So in battletech extended mod i rigged my atlas with ecm and best melee mod i can find and flamethrowers. He just runs into enemy formation to punch out enemy mechs and occasionally overheat his victims
Everybody knows that the real face of Battletech is the good old Urbanmech
The Atlas can punt Urbanmechs all day.
@@Dragon_Werks nah urban hunts atlas
@@Dragon_Werks you would think, but trust me infantry and a pair of urbies is basically invincible
*vindicated trash can noises*
@@basedcousinbalki8664 excuse me while I go get my Dire Wolf…
The mech at 14:37 is actually a Masakari/Warhawk.
Good God, you channeled teamfourstar Nappa for a minute there
It seems to me that the Atlas is the A-10 of the 'Mech world. That is to say, the Atlas is built around and for it's weapons.
The atlas is a generalist mech. It has good armor, decent weapons, par speed. If you want a battletech a-10, you're looking at the Annihilator, or the Bane. Bunch'a gunbeds on bricks
Atlas doesn't have a horrific friendly fire record though...
The Atlas is more a "I am still breathing and I am about to make this EVERYONE ELSES PROBLEM" mech then an A-10 like mech. It wasn't built around any weapon or idea other then that.
@@averywhitaker3513 Eh, if you want Mech built around a bigass gun, it's the Hunchback or Hollander.
Or the Mechbuster or Lightning or Transit, for aircraft.
@@magni5648 hell yeah!
Annie and bane are my favorites of the hundred tonners that fit the bill. But the hunchback and Hollander are great too
You should do a video on the clan elemental which is a really strong guy in power armor. Where one took on a Atlas in a one vs one fight, and Won.
May I recommend the college short film Mechwarrior: Age of Destruction here on RUclips? It has an Atlas III among other mechs beautifully animated, kicking the crud out of each other.
I wanna hear this guy be an anchorman and announcer for Solaris 7 arena games. Make him a rival for Duncan Fisher!
I remember how in 1 job in mech warrior 5 my Lance almost got decimated by just 1 Atlas, took a mech, 3 arms and a leg with him, what finally put him to the ground was a punch from my almost destroyed Warhammer
There’s a companion atlas 3 with a hag 40 Gauss cannon. No shields but a real hole puncher
Also if it needs to punch someone then it can.
I don't think it's ugly. I think he's an endearing muscleman with a skull face... like Skeletor!
Kodiak always looked like a clan ATlas to me but i bet there's an atlas IIC
Incredible Vibery
Great oration
Good work
15:00 That's a Warhawk, not a Direwolf. It's jowl-armor plate is seen under the violating fist and the heavy brow armor is over the forearm. The image is just an astronaut decking the shit out of a bloodhound for being in the way.
now i'm picturing an atlas "fastball special"ing elementals at other mechs.
My favorite mech ever, it’s a juggernaut of terror.
Oh lawd almighty, it's Big Daddy Soup Stock comin' off the top rope with a steel chair!
Ah yes, the rac...2 a big (not) gun capable of coring an assault mech in... 6-7 turns. (Thats 60-70 seconds for yall outside of the tabletop.) And that gun jams more often than a rock band.
The scoutiest of scout mechs.
"BUILD ME AN ARMY OF ASSAULT BATTLEMECHS WORTHY OF MORDOR.. "
🖐🏻💀
There is an atlas version that has a huge hatchet in one hand too for more close combat insanity
That’s the Axeman…
The Atlas is just a Zaku and you can never unsee it now
No wtf are you on
@@heymay724 what are you on
Not really. The Zaku has smaller limbs, and the heads look completely different.
Next up, the Highlander? The Griffin? The Phoenix Hawk? The Catapult? Or maybe the Thunderbolt?
20:41 ... This reminds me that in MWO I decided to make a Uziel Mech who's entire armament is 2 RAC/5's. It's basically a cockpit sandwiched between the two massive guns with enough ammo to blot out the sun and some tin foil to pretend it has armor. ... Arms? what are those?...
To be fair, unlike the Atlas III, I did balance out the "Full Potato" by giving it one in each torso ... or more accurately making each of it's torsos a gun.
Idk why this doesn't have more views, ffs the rifleman video has more views at time of writing this comment
I believe the Solaris Arena promoters were looking for you Insanity. They needed you as the new MC for their upcoming exhibition matches between Rusty Thrashcan the humble urbie and Big Stompy the Atlas. ^.^
Lol, always loved the atlas.
In MWO I got my hands on an ECM Atlas and loaded it up with an ac-20, 3 srm6's and large or medium lasers for weight, with max armour and a standard engine so I could zombie mech reliably.
Turns out its real good at jumpscares and movie monster shenanigans.
The end bit of the fight had my mind wondering why that Light Mech wasnt dead through the first 3 seconds. Then made up some stupid idea the pilot modified that mech to take a beating with hopes that his buddies do the damage....but the buddies saw the start and decided to choose life.
I ran a 65 ton Jagermech DD with 2 RAC 5s, 4 Light MG. 3 medium lasers and ams. I called it The Shredder and unlike the Atlas it could move.
Unfortunately, the only vehicle capable of carrying an atlas is the Heavy Battlemech Recovery Vehicle, and to do so, it reduces its top speed from 64kph to 32 kph, slower than the Atlas riding it. Now theoretically if you had the time to equip a Battlemech Recovery Vehicle (50t version of the 70t HBRV) with Lift Hoists, you could carry around an Atlas at 64kph, roughly 10kph faster then it's top speed, but understandably it'd be impossible for it to fire from atop it as the recoil would likely topple the precariously balanced mech and vehicle alike.
Also, on the table top an Atlas' punch only does 10 Damage, so depending on where it hits, a Stinger could very well survive the first blow.
Im still trying to figure out what that background mech is at 10:16, the asymmetrical cockpit is driving insane
Looks like a Victor. Just a weirdly shaped head
1/10, No Steve "hello"
This is why the Atlas is my favorite.
Mine too.
Hello there Insanity.
There is a reason for the 'Steiner Scout Squad' videos!
It's definitely one hell of an assault mech, but personally prefer the king crab or highlander
Say the word ATLAS to an Inner Sphere MechWarrior and he/she shudders, remembering their encounters with it. Say it again, they’ll tell you just how lucky they were to survive…
I remember in the old lvl1 days an Atlas was dropped by a lance of ac 20 toting urbies during a city invasion by the Lyrans.
Another time I seen a single locust drop an Atlas from attacking it from behind using hit and run tactics during a lvl 1 double blind game, sure he scored a 2* on the spot holding the AC 20 ammunition with a Machine gun but a win is a win.
So how in the world can anyone be scared of this overgrown paperweight?
My favorite mech. When I had the resources, I dropped everything in MW5 Mercenaries to look for one.
The RAC5 isn't considered a very good weapon on the tabletop, it has a high jam chance. You generally have to fire in bursts of 5 and because of the cluster table only 2-3 of those shots hit plus they scatter in different locations meaning you don't get armour penetrations. Its sometimes better than an AC10 but not as good as an UAC10, AC20, or Gauss.
Also, am I remembering wrong or wasn't there a 'armored suit' (the Elemental) called Toad? I believe I recall such a thing.
The Elementals wear a battle suit into combat. The Inner Sphere nicknamed them Toad's because they have jump jets and hop towards them.
I have to be a spoilsport. Afaik a Mech can only lift 10% of his weight with one arm 20% with both. "Here comes the Commando, around the corner, he runs into the Atlas. Atlas gives Fist to the chest, Commando flies to the Back, Atlas follows, grabs right arm, yank it out of the Commando. Commando stands up, Atlas grabbles him, lift him over his head. (without Arm with the KSR4 it is now below 20T) slams him into the Ground and give him a good kick." that would be possible. This is important when it comes to improvised Weapon: "The Altas runs dry, he grabs the Arm of the Warhammer and use it to beat the Rifleman into peaces !" That are infact Battlemech 1.0 Rules about Melee combat.
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Fields of AC20 urbies scare me more than a Lance of atlas
I had Marauder II like this Atlas from 17:36. Except it had also some lasers. MAD-5B
I'd dare to say a max armor urban mech with traits would be more beefy. No where as much punch but arguably more beefy.
The mad cat was the face of the franchise for years, and some might say that it still is. My favorite cover is the Warhammer from the old box set.
Ask Tex and his team to animate it..
And along came the Annihilator saying "hold my beer".
This ducklly loving choice of ❤ warming language with the one hit middle finger barge?? is something to my ear, exept honey. Have fun.
14:55 Uhhh that's actually a Warhawk being punched by the Atlas. It doesn't matter. Its destroyed but for identification purposes, it has the 2 long PPC barrels in each arm and the LRM 10 on the shoulder. The Dire Wolf just has the little stubby Large laser ports in the arms.