One point that many media outlets have overlooked is that China has a population of 1.4 billion, which far exceeds that of other countries. If you calculate the per capita carbon emissions of all countries, you will find that China's per capita carbon emissions are not high, and this is a fair statistic.
Not only that, if U consider actual consumption, a huge amount of the emissions are directly attributed to producing products that are consumed overseas ! So actual emissions contributed by the average Chinese lifestyle are very low per capita.
AND that they're the manufacturing country that every other country counts on. It is a little unfair to always bash China for carbon emissions. Pollution and waste, sure.
China industrialises: Greenhouse emitter No.1 China becoming the largest green energy producer and installer: Overcapacity Chinese muslims: we love them Gaza Muslim: we don’t do that here Guys I think I found a pattern!!
It seems a bit disingenuous to criticize China, when we, in the West, is nowhere near our emission goals. China's method of govern makes it much easier to make drastic changes. If they want a park of wind turbines, they will just set it up. No questions asked. If we want to set up even an offshore wind turbine in the West, some guy who lives 10 kilometres away will block the project for years because he complains that we are blocking his view of the ocean.
China has the largest CO2 and GHG emissions in the world, but also the second largest population. Some argue that for a fair comparison, emissions should be analyzed in terms of the amount of CO2 and GHG per capita. Considering GHG per capita emissions in 2023, China's levels (11.11) are almost two-thirds those of the United States (17.61) . In my view GHG emissions per capita of China much higher than the average of GHG emissions per capita in the world
You forget that china manufactures a lot of goods for the rest of the world. If we'd add those emissions to the importing country, the numbers would look very different. Hint: It will make the US look very bad.
The cost to generate power for individual family is very low now, for example, USD200 solar pannel can get you 2 KW/day, which is far more enough for everything daily electricity use, if excluding AC; even with AC included, cost will be soon getting really low.
You know what? This report is great for one reason. It asks a question after presenting evidence. That’s something we all could do so much more of. Thank you!
renewable energy must backed up by stable energy source, china is building small nuclear power plant, took a long time to finish the development. not everything can be done overnight.
They're using 5th gen nuclear power plants that are safer too. Their LCOE is still a little high, but according to an article, the cost of building the plants is half of the ones in the west. One, they reused designs. Second, they built them in batches. It's quite an encouraging achievement.
This is 100% false. In terms of annual emissions, China has surpassed the combined emissions of the United States (the second-largest emitter) and the entire European Union. For instance, China's CO2 emissions have been reported to be around 11.4 billion metric tons in recent years, which is roughly twice the emissions of the United States.
As I understand it they also have an export industry, building plant overseas. Since they used the same designs there is the economy of scale and lots of expertise. Edit: numbers I got are 57 plants completed and 30 in production
china is the EMBODIMENT of the fox guarding the farm. He reports "only" one or two "missing" animals in a month and everything is alright! But when it's time to count the chicken. The fox blames the villagers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The point is china to need pay her fair share if Chinese really care of the pollution issue, they created the biggest emission in the world but didn’t do anything to fix it, today they are still trying to expand their exports to create more emissions and not considering whether the world need so many goods, the international world must hold china accountable for it.
China just brought online brand new coal power plants. Solar doesn't work in the winter so you're stuck needing alternative power plants. They can't reverse emissions, but they could start reduce it.
China already found a way to produce cheap, clean and safe nuclear plant already, which is the 5th gen nuclear power plants. Ever since the japan nuclear crysis china nuclear plant expand has halt for almost a decade long. Now new safe and clean nuclear plant are in development and soon will be one of the main power source
The ultimate question : when you can generate power with cost x (through coal ,etc..) or generate same power with cost 1.5 or 2x ( clean energy) which option will china choose ? We all know the answer to that . Saying that china emissions rose steadily from 4 GT in 2000 to 12 GT in 2023 and now suddenly they “peaked” is just an assumption , and “peaking” as the video mentioned can mean they are just slowing down, it doesn’t mean they are switching from coal to other cleaner sources , as long as coal is available and cheaper they will keep using it , anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly delusional
there is an IEA report can answer your question. China spent 526 billion dollars in 2022 alone to build green energy generation. China coal based plant growth was reduced by 83% in 2023 and almost all of new energy capacity in the past 2 years are green energy. Green energy percentage is at 32% of all energy capacity
Also according to a report by Financial Times, Chinese electricity cost is the lowest in all industrial countries so China can already produce energy cheaper in green technology than coal based technology.
Solar became the most affordable energy in history in 2021, after it became cheaper than gas. Also, levelized cost of energy of coal is significantly more expensive than gas.
For all the people congratulating China 😂: In terms of annual emissions, China has surpassed the combined emissions of the United States (the second-largest emitter) and the entire European Union. China's CO2 emissions have been reported to be around 11.4 billion metric tons in recent years, which is roughly twice the emissions of the United States.
China is often labeled as the world’s largest emitter because it serves as the global manufacturing hub, producing goods for countries worldwide. However, critics frequently blame China for its emissions without considering the underlying reasons or the role of global demand in driving its industrial output.
New coal plants are not incompatible with "peak carbon" because 1. Those coal power stations will run less and less because they can't compete when wind and solar are generating. 2. Many of the new coal plants are replacing older, less efficient, more polluting ones.
But they do it to manufacture the stuff the US and Europe don't manufacture, which would be polluting the US and Europe. The modern coal power plants are more effective and pollute less than the older ones being taken out of service. You can't argue we can't stop burning oil at the drop of a hat and complain that China aren't stopping coal at the drop of a hat, at least they are making a huge effort to actually improve their emissions, which is more than can be said for the rest of us. Let's moan about the colossal efforts China is making to improve the situation, because they aren't colossal enough.
The purpose of West’s pressure on Chinese emissions is to slow China’s economy. West is falling behind and deindustrializing, to the great concern of their working class.
One point that many media outlets have overlooked is that China has a population of 1.4 billion, which far exceeds that of other countries. If you calculate the per capita carbon emissions of all countries, you will find that China's per capita carbon emissions are not high, and this is a fair statistic.
It isn’t even the biggest population of the world, let alone ‘far exceeds that of other countries’.
@@tijndoornbos9460 other than india it exceeds everyone and they both have over triple us population
Not only that, if U consider actual consumption, a huge amount of the emissions are directly attributed to producing products that are consumed overseas !
So actual emissions contributed by the average Chinese lifestyle are very low per capita.
AND that they're the manufacturing country that every other country counts on. It is a little unfair to always bash China for carbon emissions. Pollution and waste, sure.
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The products CCP China make and sell "don't contribute to Chinese lifestyle"?
They sure do for CCP members!
China industrialises: Greenhouse emitter No.1
China becoming the largest green energy producer and installer: Overcapacity
Chinese muslims: we love them
Gaza Muslim: we don’t do that here
Guys I think I found a pattern!!
I confused, what are you talking about
It is no accident that China is reaching its goals.
But it’s a white guy talking about Chinese. Of course any success is an accident
It seems a bit disingenuous to criticize China, when we, in the West, is nowhere near our emission goals. China's method of govern makes it much easier to make drastic changes. If they want a park of wind turbines, they will just set it up. No questions asked. If we want to set up even an offshore wind turbine in the West, some guy who lives 10 kilometres away will block the project for years because he complains that we are blocking his view of the ocean.
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Yeah
Property rights, individual freedom is so awful...
China uses Uyghur slaves to mine coal, china runs so many coal plants
China has no approved new steel making coal plant this year. Increase in recycling steel and electric furnace.
Right...shall we now calculate historical emissions per capita?
China overtook the EU 27. Soon all of Europe and so on.
the chinas way is to make renewable so cheap.. Cheaper than coal.. Ev cheaper than ice...
Price of Ice may go up in the comodities markets in a few years..
Most likely another item manufactured and not found in nature.
But at what cost another dangerous product that none of the rest of world wants.
What a condescending video jesus
Instead of anti-china propaganda what we really should look at is emission per capita and that's where the US is on top.
China's more complicated than this, this is misleading in all the worst ways.
Some great points made by Belinda. With China onboard, there is more optimism about saving the planet.
China has the largest CO2 and GHG emissions in the world, but also the second largest population. Some argue that for a fair comparison, emissions should be analyzed in terms of the amount of CO2 and GHG per capita.
Considering GHG per capita emissions in 2023, China's levels (11.11) are almost two-thirds those of the United States (17.61) . In my view GHG emissions per capita of China much higher than the average of GHG emissions per capita in the world
Higher than all of european countries, except maybe Poland and Czechia.
@juliane__ yes. I agree with you.
You forget that china manufactures a lot of goods for the rest of the world. If we'd add those emissions to the importing country, the numbers would look very different. Hint: It will make the US look very bad.
but at what cost
the west should support china in this endeavour. not crying overcapacity
I didn’t know that Simply Red singer is an energy expert.
The cost to generate power for individual family is very low now, for example, USD200 solar pannel can get you 2 KW/day, which is far more enough for everything daily electricity use, if excluding AC; even with AC included, cost will be soon getting really low.
Bloomberg also finds a reason. No doubt for that.
You know what? This report is great for one reason. It asks a question after presenting evidence. That’s something we all could do so much more of. Thank you!
Go China❤
renewable energy must backed up by stable energy source, china is building small nuclear power plant, took a long time to finish the development. not everything can be done overnight.
They're using 5th gen nuclear power plants that are safer too. Their LCOE is still a little high, but according to an article, the cost of building the plants is half of the ones in the west. One, they reused designs. Second, they built them in batches. It's quite an encouraging achievement.
biggest emitter are the USA and UK.
This is 100% false. In terms of annual emissions, China has surpassed the combined emissions of the United States (the second-largest emitter) and the entire European Union. For instance, China's CO2 emissions have been reported to be around 11.4 billion metric tons in recent years, which is roughly twice the emissions of the United States.
@@lionblissand US has 1/4 of China's population. Before blaming China for greenhouse emission，US should take care of itself.
@@lionbliss see population wise. China has more than US+UK combined.
Is westerns humans have more right than china humans?
Hmm I’m actually genuinely curious why they don’t have nuclear power plants
They do. They got loads.
Please do a simple google search. China has hundreds of nuclear plants and they're installing the most new plants in the world too
As I understand it they also have an export industry, building plant overseas. Since they used the same designs there is the economy of scale and lots of expertise.
Edit: numbers I got are 57 plants completed and 30 in production
bruh china has the most advance 5th gen nuclear power plants, and already outsource to overseas
Great
china is the EMBODIMENT of the fox guarding the farm. He reports "only" one or two "missing" animals in a month and everything is alright! But when it's time to count the chicken. The fox blames the villagers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
China #1
What also should be considered is the increase in efficiency of Steel and cement production. China also leads on that sector.
They need to pay the world back for this pollution
The point is china to need pay her fair share if Chinese really care of the pollution issue, they created the biggest emission in the world but didn’t do anything to fix it, today they are still trying to expand their exports to create more emissions and not considering whether the world need so many goods, the international world must hold china accountable for it.
China just brought online brand new coal power plants. Solar doesn't work in the winter so you're stuck needing alternative power plants. They can't reverse emissions, but they could start reduce it.
No they can. There’s ways to sequester carbon they just aren’t super effective or cheap. Or at scale yet.
China already found a way to produce cheap, clean and safe nuclear plant already, which is the 5th gen nuclear power plants. Ever since the japan nuclear crysis china nuclear plant expand has halt for almost a decade long. Now new safe and clean nuclear plant are in development and soon will be one of the main power source
They will no longer allow the construction of new coal plants for 2025 according to Reuters
The ultimate question : when you can generate power with cost x (through coal ,etc..) or generate same power with cost 1.5 or 2x ( clean energy) which option will china choose ? We all know the answer to that . Saying that china emissions rose steadily from 4 GT in 2000 to 12 GT in 2023 and now suddenly they “peaked” is just an assumption , and “peaking” as the video mentioned can mean they are just slowing down, it doesn’t mean they are switching from coal to other cleaner sources , as long as coal is available and cheaper they will keep using it , anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly delusional
Yes this video did not show the change of the composition of energy soures. But in fact the fraction of clean energy sources is climbing in China
there is an IEA report can answer your question. China spent 526 billion dollars in 2022 alone to build green energy generation. China coal based plant growth was reduced by 83% in 2023 and almost all of new energy capacity in the past 2 years are green energy. Green energy percentage is at 32% of all energy capacity
Also according to a report by Financial Times, Chinese electricity cost is the lowest in all industrial countries so China can already produce energy cheaper in green technology than coal based technology.
Solar became the most affordable energy in history in 2021, after it became cheaper than gas. Also, levelized cost of energy of coal is significantly more expensive than gas.
China drop 84% of new coal plant permit in 2024 compare 2023. China do not want to keep importing coal.
For all the people congratulating China 😂: In terms of annual emissions, China has surpassed the combined emissions of the United States (the second-largest emitter) and the entire European Union. China's CO2 emissions have been reported to be around 11.4 billion metric tons in recent years, which is roughly twice the emissions of the United States.
China is often labeled as the world’s largest emitter because it serves as the global manufacturing hub, producing goods for countries worldwide. However, critics frequently blame China for its emissions without considering the underlying reasons or the role of global demand in driving its industrial output.
Global manufacturing hub for a reason!
It takes other countries emission.
They will no longer allow the construction of new coal plants for 2025 according to Reuters
@@lionbliss man,
The population of china is more than US+EU combined.
Are the people in US & EU have more right than people in china?
Uhh, they're still building new coal power plants, so no they haven't hit peak carbon. They also emit more carbon than Europe and the US _combined_ .
New coal plants are not incompatible with "peak carbon" because 1. Those coal power stations will run less and less because they can't compete when wind and solar are generating. 2. Many of the new coal plants are replacing older, less efficient, more polluting ones.
do you take into account population or just have your mind made up? eu and us combined have half the population, shouldnt it be less?
But they do it to manufacture the stuff the US and Europe don't manufacture, which would be polluting the US and Europe.
The modern coal power plants are more effective and pollute less than the older ones being taken out of service.
You can't argue we can't stop burning oil at the drop of a hat and complain that China aren't stopping coal at the drop of a hat, at least they are making a huge effort to actually improve their emissions, which is more than can be said for the rest of us. Let's moan about the colossal efforts China is making to improve the situation, because they aren't colossal enough.
The purpose of West’s pressure on Chinese emissions is to slow China’s economy. West is falling behind and deindustrializing, to the great concern of their working class.
China’s carbon emissions per capita is now above the EU average and France/Italy. It’s still well below the US though.