Evolution of the APO 1S - Design, Pricing, Taxes
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Evolution of the APO 1S - Design, Pricing, Taxes
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After this video the APO-1S is now sold out for North America. A new batch of knives are to be expected in June 2021. If you want to get a reminder please write me an email
survivallilly@mailbox.org.
Also let me know your location like e.g. US, Canada or other countries. I will put you on a mailing list, and you will get notified when the knife is available again.
In my European store I still have a couple of pieces left but we only sell to Europe anymore. Soon we will be sold out in Europe as well. New knives will roll in in June 2021.
I got my APO a couple weeks ago. I haven't put it through it's paces the way I've seen some others have. The abuse this tool takes without failure is impressive. When I hold this tool I feel confidence that I can use it for things I'd never want to intentionally put a knife through and know that without complaint it'll perform and not lose any of it's power which is exactly what you need in a survival situation.
Lilly, please consider making an APO folder for EDC.
Oh one more thing, please make it easier to switch the sheath to left draw and then sell them for us leftie survivalists :)
Ehem,... 25mm Imbus um des Griffstück nachzuziehe? Nehme mal an du meintest 2,5 mm ... :-)
Please make a comparison video between different knifes and yours in different challenges. Maybe ask Reini Rossman for help, he owns a lot of knifes you can compare with.
@@FrauWNiemand I'm sure that's been done. I'm not saying it shouldn't be laid out how superior the APO is, but there are vids out there where guys genuinely try to break this thing with drills and sledge hammers and hack saws. Stuff no 'normal' survival situation would call for and I think the only thing I saw that showed a 'weakness' was having the APO driven into a log with a sledge hammer as if it was a splitting wedge and then beaten sideways into a 90 degree angle [and it didn't break]. Lilly's APO is one tough fvkng tool.
@@sem1354 I had to watch it again but she does say 2.5mm :D
As someone who has studied knife design/blade geometry for decades, and collected (i.e. used) technical knives for almost 40 years, I can appreciate the field testing and work that has gone into this final design. The key points I look for in a survival-style knife...
1. Blade geometry of saber, or flat, or possibly a saber-modified Scandi. This allows for toughness when batoning, yet can still cleanly slice an apple or bread, or even filet a fish or debone a deer. A carving style blade benefits from a slight curve along the spine towards the tip, and a chopping style knife benefits from a mostly flat/straight design to retain strength in batoning. The flatter the blade, the weaker for batoning and boring holes, but better for food prep and making super-thin cuts in wood. The more towards a Scandi design, the stronger it is, but is a bit of a butcher on foods and certain cuts. It's all about a balance between what you are doing and in what environment. No one blade design can do it all perfectly.
2. STAINLESS STEEL. I'm so over 'high carbon' steels. They are way over hyped IMHO. They are superb in a nice Deba, Kiritsuke, or Yanagiba for veggies and sashimi in the kitchen, and when you can instantly clean them every time. But in the field, not so good. The tradeoff of high strength and rust vs almost as high strength and no rust is a no-brainer if you are anywhere near humid or salt enviros, or even just cutting acidic foods like fruits. I'll never understand the hype over 1095 as it rusts like crazy anywhere near salt or acid. SS will still spark a firesteel if given the right grind on the spine and the type of SS is good but sparking is my least concern when there are better strikers in a smaller (and safer) form factor. Getting rust in your food is not a good look, greatly weakens the blade, and getting accidentally cut with a rusty blade is a no-go for long-term survival. Accept the tradeoff with confidence.
3. Removable handle scales. Nice Allen or hex head Stainless bolts are very nice. Even better with flathead screws that are easier to field maintain/remove when you forget your hex (or star) key. Water will eventually creep into the handles via capillary action. Rust can develop, especially in high carbon steels, and you need to be able to remove the scales to clean it every so often. Adding a small hidden stash area inside the thicker handles can also be a huge benefit as long as it doesn't affect workable strength. This can also allow a better balance option.
4. Strikeable pommel, extended tang. A full tang design that allows pommel strikes for driving into wood is very beneficial. The key is making the pommel flat to allow for a solid strike. (Knife designers, please stop with the undercut or 'glass breaker' spiked pommels!! I've never once had an issue with breaking glass, and doing it with my hand so close to the breaking glass is not a good survival technique if you cut your wrist in the process. Also, most people will eventually push the knife into the sheath on the pommel, and a spiked pommel will also catch and tear your expensive rainjacket or backpack fabric in the wrong situation. This is perhaps the most overlooked design aspect I see on most knives. PROUD TANG design is also good for when you drop your knife so it doesn't bust your handles, or you are having to baton the knife to remove it from a log and it won't mar your handles. The trick is keeping the proud tang ergonomic. A lanyard hole in the end is also a must.
5. Balance and proper weight for the job. Too heavy and it wears you out while carving those items for an extended camp stay. Too light and it doesn't have the inertia for many cutting tasks, especially chopping. While I appreciate ultralight gear for long-distance backpacking or hunting, a little weight in the blade can make tasks much easier and quicker by requiring far fewer strikes and chops.
6. KYDEX SHEATH. Leather is beautiful and has a wonderful warm feel....but when it gets wet its useless. It retains moisture which is a blade killer, and when it dries it always forms slightly different than the original form. It also tends to loosen over time, especially at the belt loop, retention areas. Kydex has a more tactical look, which can be the wrong look in public, but it just has a better function in more places. The main downfall of Kydex is that is gets very tight in super cold weather, but this is better than leather freezing and cracking with moisture. The Kydex needs rivet/mounting holes on all sides for better mounting/carry options, and a two-piece design is normally better than a taco style. A retention strap that can tuck away during heavy use but will lock in the knife during travel, especially on horseback or over rough terrain in the mountains or over water is crucial for making sure that knife stays put when you need it. Extra points for a stealthy sheath with zero rattle! (Zombies have great hearing lol).
7. Jimping...I can take it or leave it. It's nice on a larger chopping style blade but most jimping is too aggressive for a carving style knife that is in your hand for hours at a time. Sometimes jimping can be your best friend when striking a firesteel, but can also tear your thumb up in extended carving when delicate cuts are required.
8. Handle material...I prefer function over form. Wood is beautiful and light, but in a survival situation, you'll likely find yourself carving new handles because you just broke your gorgeous walnut handle. G10 is excellent stuff, albeit a bit heavy, but a great grip. Micarta is nice but absorbs sweat and dirt like crazy, and can be VERY heavy.
9. Handle Ergonomics...It doesn't get much better than the Mora style designs for comfort. A slight palm swell, and a very slight forward guard to keep the hand from slipping up onto the blade, and a slight rounded swell at the pommel to allow for swing chopping is what I always look for in a larger knife. These finger grooves in some of the bushcraft knives look awesome but they will give you hotspots very quickly in long-term carving.
10. Price...some of the overhyped well-known knives that are selling for $150-300 range are rarely worth it. Once you go over $120 in a knife, it better be premium steel and a perfect design. Inlays and other cosmetic additions are great for collectors and eye candy but often can lead to failures in the survival field. FUNCTION OVER FORM is crucial and the price needs to reflect long-term durability, edge retention, and comfortable function.
With this said, it would be great to see the same design in a smaller carving EDC style version...3.5"-3.9" blade length, to get under that 4" restriction limit, under a 9" overall length, and a 3.2mm-4.5mm thick blade, strikeable pommel (flat), lanyard hole, saber or modified saber-Scandi drop point, and under 6oz for the knife itself, Kydex sheath with good Scout carry option, rounded spine but sparkable pommel, removable scales, and M390 or N690, Elmax, CMP, or similar style Stainless steel...something that would compete and be a lighter version compared to the LionSTEEL M4, Guardian 3/4, and the EESE 3 stainless style knives. That is the all-around bushcraft/field knife/EDC sweet spot.
Excellent write up. Very informative! I agree on the crap 1095. It's just not for me as I live near the coast. Requires constant oiling and sharpening too.
You mention the Lionsteel m4 but have you tried the T5? It is very similar style to Survival Lilly APO design but smaller and much lighter. You might like it even better than m4.
@@syke3796 Yes, I should have mentioned that. I picked up a T5 when it first came out and it's a superb all-rounder. It's a near perfect 1-2 week bush knife with an upgraded sheath.
If I'm going on a long extended trip that requires lots of chopping then something a bit larger like an APO was usually what I wanted. However, lately, I've opted to just take a small 8" folding saw instead of a larger chopping style knife or axe and it greatly helps reduce weight/easier to carry on long backpacking trips and is much quicker to process most wood tasks. I gladly sold an EESE 4-3D to get the T5 and it was well worth the upgrade, to say the least. (Also FAR FAR better than my previously retired TOPS B.O.B. that just took way too much maintenance!!!).
But yes, coated or uncoated, 1095 just can't compare to Niolox steel. I only need to sharpen the T5 maybe once a week compared to once daily with the TOPS or EESE 1095. Those complaining about 'hard to sharpen' steels overlook this increased edge retention for efficiency in the field. Hard to sharpen simply means a dozen extra passes on the diamond sharpener...literally just seconds of difference...for hours or days worth of a better edge. For EESE or TOPS to sell their knife for a similar price to the T5 is just selling the name. The T5's steel is far superior in every way.
For the money, in a bushcrafter, I also think the M4 even better than the Benchmade Bushcrafter 162, and that's saying a lot because the 162 is an outstanding CPM bush knife. The M4 has just as good as steel but you can field maintain the tang if needed.
My APO1S is in the mail right now from Canada. You’ve come a long way from when I first started following your outdoors journey when you were just AloneWolverine1984! Watched your first attempt at a raised bed in the woods (which collapsed!) but you pivoted to making a small fish weir in a stream. Preparing a deer in your Mom’s kitchen you shot. Long way through many outdoor journeys to today - you stuck with it!
I will gladly carry your knife in the woods! The steel naysayers need to learn to sharpen their knives in the woods! I would rather sharpen my blade daily than have a lesser, thinner knife fail.
Keep on keeping on, Lilly! All those making negative comments have probably never spent a night alone in the woods!
I'm outdoors now, I just finished using this knife not 5 minutes before I came across this. Love it, I always take it with me in the woods
I found this brief history of your knives very informative and interesting. I have several of the original APO-1 knives and an APO-1H. The knives have proven to be very well designed and crafted in my experience. I would recommend your knife to anyone who needs a fine outdoor knife.
I have the APO 1S and the H versions, and they're awesome. I've had them for a while and they have held up great, completely satisfied!
I bought your knife a few months ago and love it. I live in the northeast USA and have used the knife a few times, and it hasn't disappointed me. I feel the cost of the knife more than meets the value. I enjoyed this video and understanding your thought process on the development of your knife. Thank you.
I got the APO-1 as soon as the 2nd batch was available. It was quite sharp out of the box, and it feels almost custom-made for my hand. I have never had that experience with any other production knife. Anyone who thinks it is too pricey is living in the past. It is very robust and well designed for all the functions desired in a survival knife. I don't think there is a better bargain in a bushcraft/survival knife anywhere.
Almost want to buy it but after looking it for the price on amazon, i cancel my mind.. $150 for a new branded knife with aus8 and no detail on the heat treat detail or HRC, nevermind, the aus8 sharpness will be gone in single use of batoning and chopping, that steel is not even enough to be use on my edc pocket knife.. i can get a m4 steel knife from reputable company for the same price.. m4 is the way to go for outdoor hard use.
Steel is all about the method of treatment ,and different makers of steel can have better quality than another.
Will not find all the bells and whistles this knife has for under $200 USD...G10 with liners is executive goodies.
Jimping on spine,nice sheath..For use around Salt,must either be coated which hinders food grade slicing,or stainless..
AUS8 done up right is great,AEB-L is another. 440c etc
Cold Steel is not giving all bells and whistles these have.
Cold Steel have factories in Taiwan as well but they are production performance knives,hers are more custom.
I have AUS8 choppers that hold edge chopping as great as 5160 or 1095..
I am getting one of the new models,was sold out of the black patina,but heading back.
I usually like Carbon and I use Johnson's floor wax to protect everything (people must read can) and slick my blades.
But after some time using AUS8 or AEB-L-440C ,I like the stainless..
I can tell are worthy.
The grind has much to do with how they act chopping..
I built a tipi in my backyard and looked for more information on them in my research and that's how I came across your videos. I've gone down a rabbit hole now though and I'll be looking at your next batch. Watching you use it for cutting up kindling alone was enough reason for me. Great work, and I'm sure I'll be a happy customer.
Well done Lilly! I never knew just how complicated it was to design and produce a quality product! Thank you!
Thanks Lilly for creating this knife and this good explaination. I´m happy i´ve bougth it 1,5 years ago. The price is absolutely ok - you´re not a mass producer. Some people don´t like the AUS8 steel - i think for a real survival knife its a very good choice. Easy to sharpen - hard to brake. If its rolling its better then chipping or braking.
Thanks for that in-depth explanation of the vision, manufacturing process, costing & taxes involved with trying to offer something to the public that is of high value!!!
Before use, polish the blade several times (allowing it to dry for a day between treatments) with a very high grade Automotive Paste Wax. It will greatly delay any rusting from moisture.
I like EDCi for my carbon blades. Its nice to keep your knife rust free and food safe.
Not everyone thinks about the actual function of car wax. It works an all kinds of stuff, and not just to make it pretty.
I can only admire the design of your knives. I live in Finland and that means we have a lot of forests here. Your knives seem to be an excellent choice for bushcraft.
I just ordered an APO-1S from Canadian Preparedness web site. I've been drooling over this knife for about 6 months now. I decided to buy it a couple months ago, but it was sold old. I'm so happy it's back in stock. Looking forward to delivery day. Happy belated Mother's day to me!
Just purchased my APO1 S thanks for taking the time to design a really practical knife.
Just ordered THE APO 1S from Canadian Prepper as you suggested. Can't wait to receive it. Thanks for putting in all the hard work designing and updating the knife. Much respect and admiration from Long Island, NY.
Excellent video Lilly, great design process, thorough detailed explanation of all aspects of how you arrived at the current incarnation of the knife and pricing etc, and a great survival knife! 👍💪😎🏴
This lady invested her reputation and money in a project that she believed in. Most of the critics of her bold effort haven't invested anything but hot air.
I say "WAY TO GO, GIRL"
Excellent vid. Thanks Lilly. Stay well.
This is a great video. Very informative on the design history, manufacturing & cost implications.
I was in aerospace manufacturing for 40 years, and Lilly explained what most people don't understand; the cost of doing business.
I sure don't need another knife, but this is on my "🔪wish list" for the bug out bag. (It will not replace, but join my 75 year old KA-BAR) and out live both of us!
thanks for taking so much time going over this.
I couldn't wait to get the APO-1S from Canadian Preparedness, and I've been admiring it for the well designed, Work of Art that it is! It's Beautiful, and the only thing missing is your signature. This is a well thought out Tool that will outlast me! Thank you Survival Lilly!
Yes, do an electrochemical etch or laser marking of "Survival Lilly" signature.
I would be proud to see it as a logo on the blade of the knife she designed.
@@savage22bolt32 Great idea! 👍 I would buy another one, or the APO-1H for my collection.
@@normanriley4489 Collector too?
I have some for using, and a bunch I've collected over the last 55 years, since I was 10 or 11. A signed Lilly would be special!
Lilly! I’ve spent the last few days working on a shelter because your so inspiring. The knife is very helpful. Thank you :)
In my humble opinion CPM3V would make this knife perfect and a lot of people would be interested to have it, the design is very good and people will pay for the superior steel. The only stainless steel that should be on a survival knife in my opinion is M390 or CPM 20 CV. But 3V has enough alloy to resist rust, you may only have minor surface rust. And a survival knife should always be cleaned and cared for. Thanks for the video Lilly.
I happen to own many survival knives and will soon own your's! From the many reviews you knives have received I would put them in the top 5 of survival knives made, quality knives! Thank you for sharing this video!
Well done. Thanks for your work. Nice to see the evolution of these knives
A little tip I learned from my buddy, who's a "firearms manufacturer" in Darra Adam Khel.
He uses boiled orange juice to finish weapons parts to an almost Blued/Parkerized patina, which resists surface rust. You can also use boiled apple cider vinegar.
And a good lubricant to use is Froglube. It's also food-safe, so you can use it on blades that you use for food prep. 🤙
I now have two of the APO-1S knives. :)
I figured I shouldnt back-up my "primary" knife with something less capable. Now I have a "full replacement" in the event I lose the first one. No way am I ever going to break the thing. After seeing Joergsprave try to destroy one in a youtube video and fail to do so, I know I will be well served!
I strongly recommend getting one. You won't regret it. THUMBS UP LILLY!
Nice to see the history of the knife! I got the APO 1S as christmas gift and i love it from the first sight. Feeling is good in my hands and i will use it the next month but im sure it´s a good knife. I have the 14 cm length in Germany, but i lock it with a steel cord and a lock in his sheath. Thank you for your hard work to make this knife true! Come good in the new year! LG Kalli
Hey Lilly, I think the choices you've made with this knife make a lot of sense. So after watching many of your vids and taking some advice from Joe X I've just ordered one!
Love the channel and all the mixed content.
Great video, my friend (I really enjoyed it), and I'm still very happy with my APO1, it was well worth the price 😊 Hello from eastern Tennessee (USA) ✌
Hey Lilly I love this knife , Im saving up for it , I hope to have mine soon.
I used to buy multiple cheapo knives under the mistaken idea that a knife is a knife. My fiancé stayed after me to spend a lot of money on one really good knife that could take abuse and last me a lifetime. Every time I put a high dollar name brand knife into a shopping cart I could never follow through with the purchase...
Then I saw you using your knife in a video and I just knew that this was my knife and that I would be willing to spend BIG to get it.
I looked at the Canadian website where they were in stock and read the reviews which were impressive. One mentioned a video where a guy totally abuses it, then brings it back to perfection. I watched the video and that sealed the deal. Much to my fiancé's surprise I bought it less than 5 minutes later (he's so proud lol)!
I received my knife two weeks ago and haven't had a chance to use it yet, though I carry it with me wherever I go...you know...just in case shtf and I have to trek 5 days home. My fiancé is always wanting to look at it and dropping hints about wanting one. Maybe I'll give him one as a wedding gift (in April) because I don't think I can keep mine hidden until his birthday (in August).
I haven't looked at another knife since. Thanks so much for creating a fine knife/tool... I look forward to a lifetime of bushcrafting and homesteading with it ❤️
You did a lot of work developing your knives Lilly, and it shows.
If the screws of your knife keep coming loose, try using red lock tight or red thread locker. Might help..... if it works, you can tell them to do that during manufacturing. Or perhaps rivet them?
Any way... very nice, simple and handy survival knife design. I wish you all the best of luck Miss Lilly.
Very well thought out Lilly. Great knives.
Great to see the progression and adjustments you made in refing the knife. I dont think people really understand the effort that goes into the design of a good knife
Excellent description of how you evolved this knife/tool. I await new stock to get one.
I bought one of the first APO-1 knifes.
Now, after years of hard use, it´s still in very good condition.
To me the best knife for outdoors.
I admire the research and development you put into the knives.
Lilly; regarding handle shape: I had a discussion with a Sami friend, and he pointed out that he often uses a knife with the blade edge "up", so that a more rounded, more symmetrical shape allows the knife to be used more flexibly, like skinning game, cutting a rope, and so on... Makes it easier to turn the knife in your hand. Anyway, I found his comments interesting, because he is "in the field" for days at a time, and *working* all the time, so really works with the knife as a tool. Alles bestens
Hoch beeindruckend liebe Lilly! Super Resultat(e)! Freue mich immer wieder mit Deinem Messer unterwegs zu sein. LG Sepp
APO 1S arrived this past week from Canadian Prepper site and Lilly you designed an amazing knife that I know I can rely on. Keep being amazing!
Update: The price of this knife could have easily been sold for more when I opened the package and held it in my hand I was like "whoa I only paid". So no worries on your pricing you've put the effort to earn far more
Damn💪
corporal , loved your test of this knife , glad to see you watching Lilly, your last vid was bad (good) AF.
Notice your not using it though. You got a loved by whatever. Hum ( i don't think i pissed her off.
Corporals Corner why don't you use sillys knife if it's that good?
@@marymussi9184 any need to be so disrespectful?
@@TaxTheMonkey CC is a two faced weasel. His review of survival sillys knife was a joke. He glossed over the whole review by saying it's up to you to make your own opinions.
To scared to upset silly but quite willing to let a viewer blow $150 on a piece of overpriced junk.
Gracias por compartir tu colección.
👋💓👍
That was very interesting and I learned a lot. I hope you have increasing success with your knives. I plan to buy one soon.
Hi Lilly, great and informative video! Who would have thought as to how much thought, time and energy goes into creating a knife 🔪 like that? Thank you for sharing with us average folks as to the process of knifemaking and the costs involved!! Your knife is a great one!!! Bought one as a means of supporting your channel!!
Very nice work @Survival Lilly. I appreciate your effort and dedication for true survival.
Thought and passion went into your knife. Though it does not need an explanation for it's price it is quite educational. Fantastic!
I own the APO-1S and it is a really good knife. Used it on my last camping trip and it was awesome!
Thank you for this detailed explanation of your design for this knife. I'm only a beginner as far as survival camping and equipment goes so don't feel qualified to comment on how good or bad your knife is,nor do I own one but I am very grateful for your explanations because it will help me decide what direction I would want to go when I am ready to buy a more expensive knife. That said your knife is a lot cheaper then some of the ones I've seen recommended in other reviews.
Congratulations on the Knife, Outstanding Design, I hope to have one at some point to use and Test 👍😎👌
That is good that you made changes to the handle to make it thicker for people with larger hands and the original one looked nice for the average person. I love your knife and will look at Canadian Prepper since I live in the U.S. and want one of your knives.
You'll never please everyone in a single design.
My view a "survival knife" criteria in order are.
Edge retention, toughness, corrosion resistance.ease of sharpening.
AUS8 is not on my short list of steels at all.
Is it not easy to sharpen? It looks like a decent knife. I'd like to get one, but I need to be able to sharpen it myself.
You can't please all the people all the time, only some of the people some of the time.
PS. I have seen a reveiwe on this knife before and was very impressed.
@BushcraftingNL honestly for what this is made for the edge retention is fine, but it is pretty expensive for an AUS-8 blade.
Aus8 is a fine steel! Not everyone is a master sharpener. Are there better compromises with those four variables, yes! But then the price tag goes up. She also wanted her knife to be purchasable for the average consumer. A fifth criterion. It is. It’s good quality, tough, handsome, g10, enough carbon to be hard, enough chromium to be resistant, and you can sharpen it in the field with a small stone. It might be a perfect compromise with those variables.
Brilliant video Lilly, thank you for taking the time to explain your reasoning behind your knife.
Just ordered one ! Double the cost with shipping etc from Canada . 🇬🇧
I love the considerate thought that you put into this knife as well as the number of iterations you have gone through to get the version you want. I've been following your progress with it over the last couple years and have finally just ordered my own from Canadian Prepper. I just wish he also had the black blade version, but I will probably blue the steel myself anyway.
Thank you for explaining it! I was wondering what was happening behind the curtains. I plan on getting one but now more so because you gave me the explanation I desired. Thank you!!!
It‘s a work of love! Keep up the good work! Thank you!
I have your first generation APO 1. Holds up great. Very easy to sharpen. Ergo’s you did really great 👍
This is a great value Lilly. Do have created a proven product and many people were able to experience the evolution of this product with you. This is very rare. Well done. I hope you sell many, many of them.
How much thought and work from your side to make this come through (not to mention all the paper work that I imagine must come with a project like this)!
I wish you the very best!
Greetings from Sweden
Just purchased the APO 1S from Canadian Preparedness. I'm expecting it around 8 March, and am excited to see just what it will do! I'm a desert dweller, so it will be interesting to see how the knife fares in this environment. Based on what has been said about it in this video and in other reviews, I'm sure it will serve me well! Thanks in advance, Lilly!
I learned so much just watching this video. Thanks Lilly!
That sure does look like a very, very, interesting piece. Very well thought out. Many clever ideas in the making. And I do agree that AUS 8 is a very dependable steel : tough and corrosion resistant. Thumbs Up ! 👍
Super Messer. Sehr schön. Ich habe zwei (Apo 1 und Apo 1S) und bin super zufrieden. Besonders der AUS8 Stahl hat mich sehr überzeugt.
Gute Messer 🔪 zu einem guten Preis.
Viel Dank und eine gute Zeit.
This was an excellent history and explanation of your knives!!! I will absolutely purchase one from your Canadian distribution partner!!!
I like your design, like you said it is functional. I will get one for camping and hiking. I think is a great tool,to have. Thank you for your video, very informative.
I understand what you're saying about stainless. I almost always agree with you. Not today! I've never had a SS knife that I could keep an edge on. I prefer carbon steel that I only need to sharpen once a week. I use a knife EVERY day, not just weekend camping. AND, as for the apocalypse....a knife may not be enough😁.
I like all the features of your knives, especially that they're FULL TANG, extra thick through the handles. Tough!
Then you’ve never had a knife in a good stainless or semi stainless steel.
I have one of the first ones with stainless screws and it’s great! Thank you!
I bought one of the original APO-1, and also one of the Hunters. I love both of them very much. If you do a lot or work around camp, especially batoning these knives are more than up to the task. Very sturdy. I agree the handle on the APO-1 could be slightly larger, but I have large hands. The only problem I have encountered was that the screws loosened on the APO-1 and fell out in the woods, and are lost. Any suggestions where I could new ones.
Aus 8 is a fine choice for a survival knife. It's a tool that's expected to take impacts so toughness should be valued above all else. There's a reason you never see axes made from high hardness super steels.
D2 would have been better. Tougher and holds an edge longer, but aus8 is easier to sharpen. You'll just gave to sharpen a lot more often.
@@dertodesking8379 its a survival knife it is use like an axe in the wild, it is not a kitchen knife
@@dertodesking8379 If one of the intended applications is light chopping and batonning, I think it's a fair point!
D2's oxidation resistance is a bit of a downside though.
Great vid. Thank you. Hey, are you going to be doing any more videos on the van build you started??
Yeah I am just waiting for better weather
I bought your knife couple months ago , i love it ! Great job Lilly :)
I saw that Canadian Prepper has the APO-1S back in stock now! Just ordered mine. Can't wait to get it. I know it is going to be awesome!
Thank you for your effort to create a quality product
Schöne Messer! Die kleine Version mit 12 cm klingenlänge gefällt mir sehr sehr gut... ein edc knive wäre auch echt cool 😁👌
You are a wonderfully unique person. I enjoy your videos, especially the archery ones. I have been shooting traditional bows for over 50 years. God bless you.
I love my APO 1S. I've copied lots of things I've seen in your videos with it and it holds up really well. It's fantastically strong and I'm having so much fun with it. Ohh, just an edit:. I am from UK and the price was fine, not expensive at all. Certainly not expensive considering what you get 🙂
I have the first APO-1 knife and it's a beast and have no problems with it....even with the shorter handle/scales ;)
Lilly, it is very difficult to make a small business work, when faced with govt taxes, controls, etc. You would be lucky of you make $15 per knife. Then the start up costs must be repaid. I don't think you will ever make money, but the experience and knowing that you have done something worth while is fulfilling. I hope you succeed.
This is great documentation of the real-world scenarios with knife blade getting in salt water. If you want to eliminate the rust completely (with only a slight patina) you can try Evapo-Rust. The instructions say it’s safe and non-toxic, and can be poured down the drain. It takes about 12 hours to completely remove rust, you can even leave the screws in-place. It will come out looking (almost) new - only minor pitting from material already lost to rust.
just want to say i have the latest version and I'm glad i do because my hand just barely fits in the handle, but its perfect it locks in and feels great. i wear xl mechanics gloves. I've had almost every popular knife seen on RUclips at one time or another. this is my survival knife now even over my more expensive options.
Thanks for the explanation Lilly. 👍😁
so so cool. great to see
This video is awesome, because you explain your thought process as you went through designing and prototyping.
I am a big fan of Buck Knives products, and was planning to buy either the Compadre camp knife, or the Selkirk. Both are cheaper than your APO 1S, but there is much more to buying tools than price. I will be ordering your APO1S knife ASAP, like tomorrow.
I finally got my three daughters to start calling out hunting and bushcrafting for years I've tried and got them going 2 years ago my youngest daughter loves watching your videos she asked me to buy your knife the new style so I figured I should since her knife was looking a little bad and down when it got here I looked at that knife compared to mine knife it looked better a lot better but didn't think it would match up to be a good knife when we tested it out in the field this past summer and I really enjoyed using it so much my daughter told me to get my own so I bought one for me and my two other daughters 💖 a very well made knife
If I was to tell people at work that I want a "Survival Lilly" knife, they would probably laugh their heads off.
They know nothing, I really want one!
Hi, Lilly... really enjoyed seeing the evolution of your knife. Question: How easy is your knife to sharpen and what method do you recommend for sharpening? Thank you. FYI: I am in the U.S. (West Virginia).
Thanks for the reminder! Just placed my order.
Fascinating briefing.
Is there a pepper book for a home you could recommend? Things like long term food storage, what foods and vitamins to stock, items that we might overlook keeping nearby, etc.
Most plastic sheaths have a problem with a temperature drop of - 10 degrees Celsius, the knife is extremely difficult to remove. Have your sheaths been tested at such temperatures. Do you offer nightgowns made of genuine leather or other material?
Micarta varies in color but will darken with use. I prefer it to G10 because it gets a little more grippy when wet.
I was expecting the price to be in the $ 250 range based on the quality alone. I will be ordering one. Keep up the good work...been following you for years.
Very interesting. I learned a new perspective. Looking at stainless steel in a different light.
If you’d like to have someone tryout one of those rusty knives around the farm. I use my knives daily and sometimes in unpleasant material. I really enjoy your videos. Cheers!
Very informative!
I have the K110 with G10 and the angled grind. I like it very much.
I'll be getting another version when they are available in the US again.
Ordered my apo 1s very excited