I got 121-26 in the F104A, being at 10.0 without flares is really fucking painful, a lot of things have to go for you for to dodge a Magic or a R60 and you have to hope that a A5C, Later war 21s or Mirages don't stick to your ass because you are dead 90% of the times when that happens
The thing that A7 did is so prevalent and every time it happens I just want to die irl. I just dumped all my altitude to help a friendly and in exchange he gives me 2 milliseconds of gun on target.
More like every random teammate, in this whole game. I see this shit in props, so often. Motherfuckers call for help and then split-S for the deck, making it hard to aim, and expecting you to throw away all the time you spent climbing.
@@Beowulf_DW Or they just keep running away from their team mates. Sorry, but I'm not going to dive to the deck to save you if you keep running away from me, there are better targets around me.
The other day flying the F4U-4B I brought 5 germans to ground level from 5000m, their entire team because the rest was bombers, so that my allies could BnZ them. I separated to 1v1 a dora that keepoed up with me, and when I kill him and turn back a teammate was complainning that we left him alone adn died, when he had like a megawat of energy advantage. Even if you do the right thing succes isn't guaranteed if you try to rely on external factors, such as other players.
@@martijn9568 Well they can't turn around if an enemy is just sitting 0.90km or closer behind them unless they want to get killed, you know those situations
Was waiting for this video for a looong time. When it came out I bought Japanese premium sabre to grind it out. I didn't even had a T-2 unlocked. Boy what a mistake that was.. I mean a sabre at 9.3 vs harriers at 9.3! But in the end I klinched hard and I got my F-1, used that 2000 golden eagles from sabre pack to unlock some things on it, like Aim-9P's, and then proceeded to have my vengeance on Harriers and Yaks! But as the time passed by the matchmaker screws this thing again by putting it in top tier 9 out of 10 times. So I finally caved in and bought F-4EJ. And yeah that load factor for Aim-9P's is bonkers!
the situational awareness... even cherry picked in this video... is crazy good DEFYN. As with most of your videos, there is a lot to learn here. Appreciate it man! I hope they fix the aaa for top tier in the next year
i was watching spit for a long time, discovered you recently and I must say mate U are rly good, I like the videos and u spitin the truth "ofc cherry picked footage" straight up u say it u show the plane I rly like it
One tip I've discovered for dodging any kind of missile, turn off your afterburner for a sec while its coming, and then do what you did and wait for it to get close and then turn as hard as you can
Uff I am so happy that I spaded it before patch which put it at 19k repair. I don't understand why it cost so much when it's beaten by every mig21. But that is just WT for you.
Given the loadout and radar lead indicator I'm considering getting the fighter before the phantom to fly it in sim. Do you think it'll see more success there?
16:32 I know that for many this is a dumb question but Im a noob at jets, could you please tell me how to get the lead indicator when locking a target? I know how to lock them but the lead indicator never pops out =(. By the way, I learned how to shoot above the enemies names with this plane because of your video, thank you so much
It's a plane specific thing And very often they get removed and added between planes If it has it it shows up automatically when you get within the range
@@DEFYN Thanks for answering man. Im using the T2 Mitsubishi and I´ve seen videos where they use it, but now I dunno if its still available, at least for me it is not visible rn=(
Hi Defyn. Great video and great play. I give a thumbs up and a subscribe. I want to ask. You play on a joystick or keyboard? I will be grateful for the answer. :-)
Have you ever tried flying the German F-104G clean wing? I've recently been playing it quite a bit, and it honestly works pretty good. You got some flares, you keep energy when dodging missiles and without missiles - which are useless anyways - you can outrun most other things.
I would get the F104 and the phantom The T-2 gets kinda bullied and the F-1 is what you see right here. The F104J ins't that amazing either though but i would take it over the T-2
Well in my experience, if you want to have better turns go for the T2 and F1. If you want better loads(Missles and bombs) go for the Phantom. I wouldnt recommend using the Star Fighter because all it can do is just run
Can you do a vid on the stock grind and if theres something you can do to make it better. It's incredibly painful in top tier where you get all your kills with missles.
I had a PFM do the opposite of the A7D (running away)... I wasted my time trying to help him when I could’ve helped another player just for him to keep running straight and crash. He tells me sorry after he wasted my time that I won’t get back...
I used it in the last 2 kills but yeah, mostly I don't bother using it. Down low it doesn't work and I prefer just aiming without it for the most part. if you rely on the lead indicator and it doesn't work you kinda handicap yourself.
The lead indicator is pretty wonky, along with that radar is absolute garbage at the altitudes you want to fight at in that plane. Plus the vulcan is a pretty easy to aim gun. I only use the indicator if im trying to hit a long range shot on some guy going very slow and moving in a way that its hard to predict (like e.g. a MiG-21 at low speed more "drifts" trough the air which makes it hard for me personally to judge where its going)
That's the way to do it, but in this plane you can't really do that because most of the time you get jumped on the way there and then you die. You have to take it pretty slowly in this thing and pick off what you can
I've played 300 games with F-1, my most used plane. AIM-9P seem so much better than J despite having same stats? I love it. I have 50% win with it (always against 10.7...) whereas I'm only at 40% with my F-4EJ :(. I guess to each their own.
they're the exact same other than the launch parameters which are worse than the J. win rate in top tier is mostly dependant on the teams you don't have much influence over it for the most part. But there is nothing wrong with liking it, I am mainly informing people that want to grind it and expect something else.
Hey Defyn, just a suggestion but you should do an outro montage of some of your deaths (a few seconds each w/ music) just to shut up the complainers about you cherry picking footage or to drive a point home about the plane.
7:31 This is really important. And infuriate me.. Seriously you come to help not to fucking die in a headons. About the F-1. I finally managed to unlock it thank to all the "inexperience" player flying the PFM that make the Warsaw side weak for a few days. Fly it 2 time and nope. Is just another T-2. At it tier is worst than the A-7D. That is not near good some people are trying to make it look. I don't see how some people want the A-7 to move to 10.+ That thing has not chance against MF/SMT and not even talk about BIS. Well Actually not even the F4E's has a change against team full of SMT/BIS.
yea yeaa aim9j... has people actually fly that thing? because the performance of the plane is mediocre the missile don't work as well as in the F-4E. It also "feel" that they have more G-lock too. And not. No compare it with the J32 that thing is a better support plane that the A-7 will ever be. There is a reason why that thing Repair cost is so busted. That thing was untouchable.
I miss these good ole days of flares not working for anyone so why bring them and missiles,especially aim9J working perfectly,when the f4e was top dog and its competitors were mig21s that was prime top tier 2.0,ever since then they cant seem to get it right
I understand why at this tier but at lower ones it would be nice to see a few death clips and what you would've done differently because sometimes it seems like im always facing the same problems against the same matchups and I have no clue what to do defensively (for example a spit or yak on my 6 when im in a heavier plane) great video !
Get the f-1 first in my opinion, cause you have to unlock the F104J before the phantom and the starfighter really really sucks in my opininion, the t-2 and f-1 are waaaaay better
@@DEFYN There was a sk60 video spit did a while back saying it was overpowered and you did a detailed vid saying it wasnt. PS nothing wrong with difference in opinions. Helps for a more all round review
@@DEFYN my bad dude, i think its in one of his overview videos were he talks about unbalanced planes in the game. I made a comment referring to your video. Unfortunately i cant see past comments so cant find it.
TomatoJuices Yes it stacks, combine the talisman with a premium account and a booster, have an awesome battle and you'll get a great amount of RP. I recommend putting talismans on vehicles you enjoy playing, keep in mind that tech tree vehicles are most efficient at researching vehicles at the same tier and one tier above and below them. E.G a tier 3 vehicle is great a researching vehicles at tier 2, 3 and 4.
I don't really have any problems in the F-1, seems to me like you're just shite at using it. You have to be smart, come in from above or from the deck but never in the middle. on average I get 2 - 3 from 5km but in a good game like I had to day I got 5 kills, 4 with aam, and 1 with cannon
Thanks for clarifying the things I missed!
I'm happy to watch two great pilots of the game analyze the same aircraft. It's all about an objective understanding in the end. Love your work man!
Love both of you guys!
top tier comment
this comment eats jets for breakfast
DEFYN: I have died a lot in this thing
Also DEFYN: Goes 102-17 in said plane
thats pretty defyn standard
I got 121-26 in the F104A, being at 10.0 without flares is really fucking painful, a lot of things have to go for you for to dodge a Magic or a R60 and you have to hope that a A5C, Later war 21s or Mirages don't stick to your ass because you are dead 90% of the times when that happens
Defyn: Dies once
Him: I died too many times
@@stefanmichaelsenzegarra5688 have you seen the j32
@stefanmichaelsenzegarra5688 same bro. I thought my pain and suffering would be over once I unlocked the f8 and flares....Boi was I wrong
Spit_Flyer : "The F1 is consistently Excellent".
DEFYN: ".........And I Took that personally."
Lol
The thing that A7 did is so prevalent and every time it happens I just want to die irl. I just dumped all my altitude to help a friendly and in exchange he gives me 2 milliseconds of gun on target.
07:15 every random teammate in jets, ever
The people always turn into you so you can get the worst possible shot on the enemies on them.
More like every random teammate, in this whole game. I see this shit in props, so often. Motherfuckers call for help and then split-S for the deck, making it hard to aim, and expecting you to throw away all the time you spent climbing.
@@Beowulf_DW Or they just keep running away from their team mates. Sorry, but I'm not going to dive to the deck to save you if you keep running away from me, there are better targets around me.
The other day flying the F4U-4B I brought 5 germans to ground level from 5000m, their entire team because the rest was bombers, so that my allies could BnZ them. I separated to 1v1 a dora that keepoed up with me, and when I kill him and turn back a teammate was complainning that we left him alone adn died, when he had like a megawat of energy advantage.
Even if you do the right thing succes isn't guaranteed if you try to rely on external factors, such as other players.
@@martijn9568 Well they can't turn around if an enemy is just sitting 0.90km or closer behind them unless they want to get killed, you know those situations
Jets? This is prop problem too
I find it easier to play things like the F-1, T-2, Hunter F.6 rn bcuz top tier is saturated with level 25 PFM players lol
Yes I have the PFM, yes I am level 53, yes I’m still a top tier noob (but I have fun at least).
@@SirHeebeGeebe same I have two trees done and I’m level 60
@@SirHeebeGeebe or 59 I haven’t looked that much
@@SirHeebeGeebe bu ruh idk how u have fun in the pfm on air rn but gud for u I guess or u just a straight up masochist
There’s so many PFMs my whole team gets Absolutley wrecked when I play in the phantom fg mk1
DEFYN: *Spawns
Enemy Team : * starts hearing JoJo - Awake Theme.
Great info! Thanks a lot👍 I wish they'd put a BR lock at 10.3 so 10.7's just fight each other... It'd make the 9.7-10.3 games much better
The only chanel i belive in opinions about planes. Thank you for your content.
Was waiting for this video for a looong time. When it came out I bought Japanese premium sabre to grind it out. I didn't even had a T-2 unlocked. Boy what a mistake that was.. I mean a sabre at 9.3 vs harriers at 9.3! But in the end I klinched hard and I got my F-1, used that 2000 golden eagles from sabre pack to unlock some things on it, like Aim-9P's, and then proceeded to have my vengeance on Harriers and Yaks! But as the time passed by the matchmaker screws this thing again by putting it in top tier 9 out of 10 times. So I finally caved in and bought F-4EJ. And yeah that load factor for Aim-9P's is bonkers!
the situational awareness... even cherry picked in this video... is crazy good DEFYN. As with most of your videos, there is a lot to learn here. Appreciate it man! I hope they fix the aaa for top tier in the next year
that missile flying by at 12:07 is actually terrifying
Great vid DEFYN! Also, excited for that Draken video, keep up the great work!
DEFYN DESTROYS spit_flyer with FACTS AND LOGIC
They removed the lead indicator, and this jet is now 10.7
Teammates flying towards and below me is my number 1 reason for mental breakdowns
Sincerely thank you very much
That plane looks sick, ngl
Wow! Glides well in Intro!
9:17 “PERHAPS”
dude you are mean
M61: Critical hit.
Eh there's no time for wait.
*YEETER INBOUND*
Love the videos thank you
i was watching spit for a long time, discovered you recently and I must say mate U are rly good, I like the videos and u spitin the truth "ofc cherry picked footage" straight up u say it u show the plane I rly like it
As a PFM pilot trying to get the Su-7B, the T-2, F-1, Mirage and Harriers are really terrifying to go against.
When I started, I saw a good vidi!
:( wel at least i tried, it was a nice dogfight btw (5:50)
don't be too concerned with trying to slow down in the MiG, it does that by itself enough already :b
gg :)
Defyn: makes new vid.
Ppl:"dieeeeeeee!!!!1111"
One tip I've discovered for dodging any kind of missile, turn off your afterburner for a sec while its coming, and then do what you did and wait for it to get close and then turn as hard as you can
Uff I am so happy that I spaded it before patch which put it at 19k repair. I don't understand why it cost so much when it's beaten by every mig21. But that is just WT for you.
i hit more target with AIM-9P than AIM-9J idk why
if only F1 have flares
If f104 f4 f8 had a baby
Make a revision of the mig-19 (both) in the future
How do you turno off the shaking camera with WEP or afterburner?
Reduce your sense of flight setting and camera shake in options.
DEFYN: I can very easily loop over, prime a missile, and kill him with my mind. XD
Given the loadout and radar lead indicator I'm considering getting the fighter before the phantom to fly it in sim. Do you think it'll see more success there?
Probably so, the biggest weakness in this is going defensive. You should see less of that in simulator. Better than the phantom though? I doubt it
Easily the best 10.3. Sure, it isnt a top tier jet (and the ej is a better choice), but man this thing can hold its own against most things it faces
DEFYN dying montage when kappa
no >:C
@@DEFYN no u
I play only Soviet but god damit this aircraft is looking so sexy
Pls try it breaking the landing flaps, it turns way more and you can even dodge r60
true
16:32 I know that for many this is a dumb question but Im a noob at jets, could you please tell me how to get the lead indicator when locking a target? I know how to lock them but the lead indicator never pops out =(. By the way, I learned how to shoot above the enemies names with this plane because of your video, thank you so much
It's a plane specific thing
And very often they get removed and added between planes
If it has it it shows up automatically when you get within the range
@@DEFYN Thanks for answering man. Im using the T2 Mitsubishi and I´ve seen videos where they use it, but now I dunno if its still available, at least for me it is not visible rn=(
Spit_flyer: A
DEFYN:
is this really true?
I'll play this game again when we get late 3rd gen aircraft (F-14)
Is this a new feature from an update? From 03:00 to 03:15 where the wings wobble as he goes pretty fast.
kamata93
Yeah wings now wobble in game curtesy of new power I think.
T2 i always climbed really high ans to the side, then went behind enemet spawn and would come up behind them 😊
considering you're telling to get the f4ej instead, could you do a video about it ?
14:05 when u ask ur crush out and she says no 😔
6:12 i like to do that move but i die most times. it worked once against a p-51 with the J7W1 in the coulds and i killed him xD
Hi Defyn. Great video and great play. I give a thumbs up and a subscribe. I want to ask. You play on a joystick or keyboard? I will be grateful for the answer. :-)
Keyboard
And thanks)
@@DEFYN Thanks :-)
Your opinion on Br compression? shouldn't the F4E and MiG-21 bis be 11.3, at least?
Have you ever tried flying the German F-104G clean wing? I've recently been playing it quite a bit, and it honestly works pretty good. You got some flares, you keep energy when dodging missiles and without missiles - which are useless anyways - you can outrun most other things.
How's the KI-61-II video shaping up? I haven't forgotten yet ;).
You mentioned you had the footage ready in February.
I did, and then they changed the flight model so it's useless now.
@@DEFYN Well, that sucks
2:40 U re wrong. F-1 and T-2 can outturn any jet, even J-35 Draken
Bet
I got the T2, but it has a pulse Doppler now, does the F1 still have the lead indicator?
So, since I'm a player looking forward to grind some top tier japanese planes, which should I get first? F-104 to the phantom or the T-2 to the F-1?
I would get the F104 and the phantom
The T-2 gets kinda bullied and the F-1 is what you see right here.
The F104J ins't that amazing either though but i would take it over the T-2
@@DEFYN and the E/EJ is where it’s at afterall for the NATO side of things
Well in my experience, if you want to have better turns go for the T2 and F1. If you want better loads(Missles and bombs) go for the Phantom. I wouldnt recommend using the Star Fighter because all it can do is just run
The 104s turn surprisingly well with the flaps
@@kingisaacius9712 the E doesn’t turn bad at all actually at least when compared non delta wings, I guess the EJ not so much though
Can you do a vid on the stock grind and if theres something you can do to make it better. It's incredibly painful in top tier where you get all your kills with missles.
be an assh*le. get a full fuel which is 45m if i remember correctly. then camp on enemy af wait fr someone to land
Awwwwee you didn't include the part where you killed me :(
Hit crit fire dead. Thnq very much
video on the german mig?
This thing genuinely looks like an f1 car
Would like to see a vid on the seafury fb 11 recently got it and feels rather lack luster to what it looks like on paper
Is your channel icon from Halo because that definitely looks like something you could make in the Halo 4 icon maker
Not halo 4 but close enough, it's inspired by it yeah :b
@@DEFYN I only say Halo 4 because I believe that emblem background was from Halo 4, the sword with wings is a classic from Halo 2
How it this jet now 2 years later?
I had a PFM do the opposite of the A7D (running away)... I wasted my time trying to help him when I could’ve helped another player just for him to keep running straight and crash. He tells me sorry after he wasted my time that I won’t get back...
Are those red zig zags a decal or a custom skin?
If decal which one is it?
Custom skin
Just wondering? In both spit_flyers video and yours, you both don't use the radar lead indicator? Why not, is it total trash?
im assuming because a lot of the time he is in the dirt and radar is jack shit down low
I used it in the last 2 kills but yeah, mostly I don't bother using it.
Down low it doesn't work and I prefer just aiming without it for the most part. if you rely on the lead indicator and it doesn't work you kinda handicap yourself.
The lead indicator is pretty wonky, along with that radar is absolute garbage at the altitudes you want to fight at in that plane. Plus the vulcan is a pretty easy to aim gun. I only use the indicator if im trying to hit a long range shot on some guy going very slow and moving in a way that its hard to predict (like e.g. a MiG-21 at low speed more "drifts" trough the air which makes it hard for me personally to judge where its going)
Nice skin bro
So odd, i always target the most dangerous planes on the enemy team... If i see a mirage or F-4E, i will target them first
That's the way to do it, but in this plane you can't really do that because most of the time you get jumped on the way there and then you die.
You have to take it pretty slowly in this thing and pick off what you can
all top tier jets are good the question is how does it do against other top tier jets
this is my first time seeing jet gameplay in a while wow it looks so weird then the non jets lol
I've played 300 games with F-1, my most used plane. AIM-9P seem so much better than J despite having same stats? I love it. I have 50% win with it (always against 10.7...) whereas I'm only at 40% with my F-4EJ :(. I guess to each their own.
they're the exact same other than the launch parameters which are worse than the J.
win rate in top tier is mostly dependant on the teams you don't have much influence over it for the most part.
But there is nothing wrong with liking it, I am mainly informing people that want to grind it and expect something else.
Hey Defyn, just a suggestion but you should do an outro montage of some of your deaths (a few seconds each w/ music) just to shut up the complainers about you cherry picking footage or to drive a point home about the plane.
can u do a video on mig17 AC in corrent state, rly need some tips, got it on sale
Sako sniper has a good review of it
7:31 This is really important. And infuriate me.. Seriously you come to help not to fucking die in a headons.
About the F-1. I finally managed to unlock it thank to all the "inexperience" player flying the PFM that make the Warsaw side weak for a few days. Fly it 2 time and nope. Is just another T-2. At it tier is worst than the A-7D. That is not near good some people are trying to make it look. I don't see how some people want the A-7 to move to 10.+ That thing has not chance against MF/SMT and not even talk about BIS. Well Actually not even the F4E's has a change against team full of SMT/BIS.
Because the A7 has Aim9J which is ridicolous for 9.xx. the j32B has Aim9B, is subsonic and has 22k+ rep cost. Even the j32 is 10.0
Honestly, I'd remove the Aim-9J then it'd be fine. It's having those top tier missiles that makes it infuriating to play against.
@@captdavid160 yess
yea yeaa aim9j... has people actually fly that thing? because the performance of the plane is mediocre the missile don't work as well as in the F-4E. It also "feel" that they have more G-lock too.
And not. No compare it with the J32 that thing is a better support plane that the A-7 will ever be. There is a reason why that thing Repair cost is so busted. That thing was untouchable.
@@Rek1emMScar the a7 rockets are exactly the same as the phantoms rockets..
i think the f-1 don't has a lead-indicator like the t-2. never saw it even if i was really close.
is the balistic computer still working?
I miss these good ole days of flares not working for anyone so why bring them and missiles,especially aim9J working perfectly,when the f4e was top dog and its competitors were mig21s that was prime top tier 2.0,ever since then they cant seem to get it right
I understand why at this tier but at lower ones it would be nice to see a few death clips and what you would've done differently because sometimes it seems like im always facing the same problems against the same matchups and I have no clue what to do defensively (for example a spit or yak on my 6 when im in a heavier plane) great video !
You and spit getting along okay bud?
We do lol
Mig21 PFM when?
do a small barrelroll against r60, they always miss.
I had no fuel. :( 15:51
Figured as much, phantoms don't go that slow unless they are haha
Gg
Get the f-1 first in my opinion, cause you have to unlock the F104J before the phantom and the starfighter really really sucks in my opininion, the t-2 and f-1 are waaaaay better
I wish I had this dude’s aim 🤦♂️
We all wish we had his aim
Awesome warplane 3 or 4 players for round
If you don't wanna get our of fuel, use the complete fuel tank, I always does and I never have to worry about it
Uninstalled war thunder but still kinda want to stay in the loop.
played 82 battles and almost got aim 9ps I hope it will be worth it
mitshubitshi
Only you can make spit look like a average player
LMFAO THIS IS THE SK60 VIDEO 2.0
Huh, what video?
@@DEFYN There was a sk60 video spit did a while back saying it was overpowered and you did a detailed vid saying it wasnt. PS nothing wrong with difference in opinions. Helps for a more all round review
can't find it :\
@@DEFYN my bad dude, i think its in one of his overview videos were he talks about unbalanced planes in the game. I made a comment referring to your video. Unfortunately i cant see past comments so cant find it.
@@George-cp1vc i think it was TheEuropeanCanadian who made a vid about the SK60B being overpowered
Bruh , how are you so good at war thunder
A 9 KD LIKE BRUHHHH
Japan air: the only faction where youre consistently underperforming after 3.3
im watching this video to find myself
edit: i didnt see myself since i killed him
xRasor
xRasor
i put a talisman in this plane.
what does talisman give you?
TomatoJuices
Talisman gives you an RP boost. So buying talismans can be cheaper than buying premium vehicles.
@@sargesacker2599 ahh i see.. i think prem acc give you +100% RP boost too and additional +50% SL for all vehicles. does it stack?
TomatoJuices
Yes it stacks, combine the talisman with a premium account and a booster, have an awesome battle and you'll get a great amount of RP. I recommend putting talismans on vehicles you enjoy playing, keep in mind that tech tree vehicles are most efficient at researching vehicles at the same tier and one tier above and below them.
E.G a tier 3 vehicle is great a researching vehicles at tier 2, 3 and 4.
I don't really have any problems in the F-1, seems to me like you're just shite at using it. You have to be smart, come in from above or from the deck but never in the middle. on average I get 2 - 3 from 5km but in a good game like I had to day I got 5 kills, 4 with aam, and 1 with cannon
My guy this video is 2 years old, it's not the same experience
matchmaker is much more favorable to this plane now, downtiers are often
do do335a1
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BEEF! BEEF! BEEF! BEEF! BEEF!
All I know is the MIG-21 PFM ruined fucking USSR top tier.