Dean & Sam Supernatural S09E10 -- Let me hear it -- Heartbreaking Endscene
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People get close to me and they get killed... or worse, EXPELLED
HAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
IT CAME IN MY MIND TOO
Oml I can’t stop thinking about what’s that from??
@@briannafurno290 Hermione Granger
@@briannafurno290 Your kidding, right?
TheLionGirl No? Lmao I forgot, chill 😂
"But don't go thinking that's the problem 'cause it's not." That line broke my heart more than anything else ever on Supernatural.
I still don't understood what he meant
I really didn’t get what he meant
roll14tideroll The problem wasn’t that he thought he was poison, it was that he made a decision about Sam’s life that significantly affected him and then kept it from him.
@@briannafurno290 problem was as sam says a few episodes later, dean always thinks he is right. he never stops to think that he is maybe doing wrong. he did the same thing when he killed amy, or when he made the demon deal in s2, he refuses to belive that he is wrong.
sibani panigrahy that's what I said. Dean made a major decision about Sam's life to keep him alive, and purposely kept it from him thinking he had no choice, when there was a choice, just not the one he wanted to make. Dean thought he was right to do that and didn't think anything different because he can't stop himself from protecting his little brother, no matter what anyone says different.
My heart breaks when Sam says : "Go. I'm not gonna stop you." 😭😭
That little waver in Jared Padalecki's voice in the 'not' of 'but don't go thinking that's the problem, 'cause it's not," and the pain that you an literally SEE in everyone's eyes makes this whole scene. No other people could play these roles better.
I agree with that no other people could play these roles better! Love both of them!
I think they played the roles for so they really got into and attached toothed characters and that helped.
@@azahora22 If you don't have any acting talent in you, playing a character for so long won't help either. They both had & have juice for what they do.
0:11 Cas is like.."nope..not about that life..time to go." xD
I'll just casually walk over here...Oh, look at that....
That's my cue 😆
Cas is my dad every time my mom turns to me and says, "Are you putting enough product on your hair? Because it doesn't look like it." He sees the storm coming and gets the hell out of dodge.
I honestly love that in Cas. He respects their privacy and doesn't interfere, even though he's not familiar with human etiquette
Cas is like nope not again.. plz wait be together... you guys are brothers.. Sam needs you You need Sam... but Cas stays quiet wise man... but his face says it all😢
Sam has the right to be angry at Dean, and Dean shouldn't have done what he did. But I guess many people are forgetting that Dean is broken. His whole life revolves around Sam. His father made sure of that "...most importantly, watch out for Sammy" Without Sam, Dean wouldn't know what to do. It's like a huge chunk of himself has been taken out. We saw it when he was with Lisa and Ben. Dean isn't the same without Sam. He also said this to Sam "Watching out for you, it's kind of who I am. That's my job." (Paraphrasing) Sam is his anchor, his purpose. He'd literally throw everything away just to make sure Sam is okay, whether Sam approves or not. So should Dean apologize for keeping Sam alive by getting him possess? No, because in his POV that's what he should be doing. Is he wrong? Maybe, but if he didn't do it then we wouldn't be watching season 14 😋😆😉😊
I think you've summed it up perfectly - from Dean's point of view, there's nothing to apologize for and he'd do it again, because it was the right thing to do. He knows Sam's mad, but....
But from Sam's viewpoint... possession, loss of bodily autonomy, not knowing what's real or what isn't....Sam has a long history of that all being taken from him, and now his 'stone number one' who he was supposed to be able to rely on to keep that all at bay has tricked him into accepting possession. That's...that's a really heavy betrayal.
Dean not telling Sam about Gadreel (until it was too late) is a betrayal on the same level as Sam not telling Dean about drinking demon blood. Sam had a lot of reasons why he was doing that, too....didn't make Sam right. Dean had his reasons for talking Sam out of shutting the gates of hell - but that doesn't make Dean right, either.
When the writers brought up the fact that Sam and Dean's relationship is codependent, the show proved that to be accurate. I think Sam's codependency on Dean ended in season 4 when Sam chose Ruby. Season 9 has plenty of examples indicating that Dean is a codependent caretaker: being Sam's savior, being unable to have a happy life without Sam, making decisions for Sam without letting him have a say, treating Sam like a child instead of a grown adult, being unable to accept Sam even if that's his choice, and believing Sam is his responsibility when Sam is a grown man who is responsible for himself.
I think when the Mark of Cain comes into play and Dean needs to be saved, I feel like Sam will learn to appreciate Dean more.
I 100% agree with that. Dean is Sam’s brother but he’s also his parent. He’s been Sam’s parent since Mary died and it’s just instinct at this point. It was so ingrained in him by John to look after Sam that Dean doesn’t know any other way to be so he’ll do literally anything to keep Sam alive. Which we’ve seen play out more than once on this show.
The problem is that Sam doesn’t see Dean as his parent, just his overprotective older brother and since Dean isn’t able to articulate the fact that he is acting as Sam’s parent at all times, they are constantly misunderstanding their own dynamic.
True. Dean is like a mom to Sam. And father. He'd rather die for Sam than the other way around. Parents hate for their child to die before them and Dean is the same way. Sam is his world. With Sam dead he feels like he failed as an older brother cause its been his job (order, given by their dad) to keep Sam safe and he will do that until his very last breath. He literally feels as if he has no purpose without Sam like you sad whereas Sam would go live with a lovely lady and have a bunch of kids on a farm somewhere after Dean dies.
@@thruthemotions Even if it wasn't an order, Dean would still protect Sam of his own free will. Season 8 showed that Sam would be okay if Dean died, but he wouldn't be the same. However, Sam was a mess in the season 9 finale and in the season 10 premiere when Dean died then he was gone. "Prophet and Loss" showed Sam's grief with the thought of losing his brother. He had to hit and yell at him and start crying to convince Dean not to go into the box. I think having Jack around helped Sam to understand Dean's perspective. Now that Sam understands what a home and family feels like.
I absolutely LOVE that Sam made dean accountable for his actions. He didn't let him pity party it out or try to make him feel better for his actions, he let Dean sit with what he decisions were.
True, but Sam could've been a little less harsh on Dean. When Sam has pulled shady stuff, he always had Dean to lean on, but when the time came for role reversal, Dean got - " We can work together, but we are no longer brothers."
In this specific moment, I don't think he was too harsh. He only said that he was pissed and that Dean should have respected his choice.
Come On Think about season five though. Dean was the same way with Sam. He was really harsh and made him be accountable. What goes around comes around.
@@ashemolen1847 Sam was worse in S9!and Dean in S5 was no where close to that!
Sam was also lying here he for god's sake he is gonna bring on Apocalypse take 3 to save Dean which was against Dean's will so Conclusion they are one another's weakness for a reason.
This scene is absolutely brilliant. I can't stop rewatching it. It really is the best scene they've done, even beating out their famous scenes from 8x23 and 9x01. The opposing mirroring of Sam and Dean's split from early Season 5 is so strong it's palpable. And poor Cass stuck in the middle. It goes to show you that "the more things change the more they stay the same".
Instead of trying to defend himself and blaming himself, Dean should have just apologized to Sam. I don't think Dean ever properly apologized to Sam. Dean's whole "I didn't want you dead" and "But I saved your life" words don't really suffice this time. Sam deserved an apology. That's why Sam said "don't think that's the problem because it's not"....it's not about Dean being poison at all...Sam definitely doesn't see Dean that way...it's the fact that Dean saved Sam's life without his permission and tricked him, and instead of apologizing, Dean tried to justify and defend what he did.
I feel like when you're really sorry about something though that means you regret whatever it is you did and you won't do it again. "I'm sorry". Not just "I'm saying these words because sorry you don't like what I did". Dean most definitely if given a second chance would do the same thing again. I think an apology would just be full of crap.
Agreed!! Dean trying to justify himself won't work, just simply apologize what you did was wrong after all!
I couldn't agree more. Season 9 ruined Dean for me, cuz he crossed the line so many times in this season, and he never really apologized for what he did, not once! And honestly, I think he only got worse from here.
Dean is not justifying or defending his action. If anything, he is doing the opposite. Yes, he could have apologised, but he himself felt that this was a line that he couldn't un-cross with a simple sorry. Btw he does apologise in the finale episode.
@Todd Donerson He did apologise in the Finale. Also, exactly how many times did he "cross the line"? I can only see tricking Sam to be in that category. Also, if S09 ruined Dean for you, did S10 ruin Sam for you? As far as I can see, he did a lot of shadier stuff than Dean, for pretty much the same reason. Also, as far as Dean getting worse goes, what did you expect? After facing all that he has faced, do you expect him to become S01 Dean again? It is a wonder he stays as positive he does, considering the amount and quality of trauma he has faced. Such things tend to change a person.
"Don't you see? I'm poison. People get close to me...they get killed."
I can't help but see a similarity to Hazel's "Gus, I'm a grenade" speech
*I am a puddle of feels*
wait, whats that from?
@@nataliee.parker2873 fault in our stars
Aw, I feel bad for both from them. I think Dean was kind for a dick for doing that to Sam but I can see where he was coming from. On the other hand if I was Sam I would be pissed, I don't know why people having to takes sides and only attack one or the other.
Of them*
agree, both of them are suffering and both of them care of each other, it's amazing, sad but GOD it's so deep, thank you for your comment, i hope some people will try to see both sides and to get that even if you can agree or disagree sometimes you just need to try to understand
I agree completely.
So heart breaking! These guys are amazing and It always makes me wonder why they don't have any Emmy's??? IMO the finale of season 9 was the most AMAZING scene.
now, i get that people say that dean should respect sam's wishes and agency to die etc etc but guys, if you see it from the aspect of suicide, you know dean did what everyone would do. if somebody stands at a ledge and decides to jump, you're just gonna walk away? you're just gonna say "i respect your wishes to die". no one will do that. It's just supernatural make the whole situation 10x more extreme. i get why dean did what he did. after all, his whole life is "look out for sammy". but i also get why sam is mad.
kikirockslikecrazy I wouldn’t say it’s suicide. Death was his reaper. He was going with him or his other option would have been a ghost like Bobby, until Dean did what he did.
that is the bottom line right her ,, you said it best , no one will accept their loved ones death and if that is selfish then we all are lol .. I get that it was probably better if dean explained him self and how he is sorry but he just cant lose sam and he cant live without him .. but would that made a difference to sam ??
@@redrose865 The thing is, Sam CAN live without Dean. He loves him dearly but if Dean died and Sam knew he was in heaven, he'd let him go and move on with his life. Dean stays alive for Sam and makes Sam his whole world and in the end, despite that being 'romantic' it's actually kind of selfish. Would you want to be someone's whole world like that? Every choice you make, that person challenges you and tries to stop you because you could get hurt but it's not because of YOU, it's because of what your hurt or loss could do to THEM. It's not healthy.
*edit* - Wow did I see the future, lmao.
The thing that still upsets me is that Dean can't see it from Sam's POV. Sam was ready and willing to die to save everyone else and that was HIS decision and HIS decision only but Dean wasn't ready to let Sam go and that's the problem. And the thing is is that Dean never really apologized for it and he goes and turns it around on him but it's not about him and what he feels like, it's about Sam because he was the one violated. Bottom line is that Sam needs his agency respected and his decisions as well.
Couldn't have said it better! Sam was the victim here, and people hated that Sam was angry! Cmon srsly look at it from Sam's POV/perspective, he had a pretty good reason to be mad
Dean never sees anyone else's POV - same with Castiel. And he is controlling, everything has to be done his way, he is always giving orders to Sam and everyone else.
Dean never sees anyone else's POV - same with Castiel. And he is controlling, everything has to be done his way, he is always giving orders to Sam and everyone else.
Yeah and in Season 10 Sam did the same to Dean, he lied to him and let the darkness out to save Dean's life... so, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a reason to be angry anymore, because no matter what they will do anything to save each other lives even if it means lying and causing the end of the world
@Darelly Winchester Dean being an idiot and taking on the Moronic Murder Mark isn't the same as Sam dying. Dean would've become a powerful demon that none of them could stop, Sam would've become a corpse in a shallow grave. Quit deluding yourself into thinking they are equivalent. Sam was not just trying to save Dean for selfish desires, but because the world didn't need an unstoppable all-powerful demon.
He always loved sam so much and couldnt bear to lose him...
My heart always breaks for both of them, especially in this scene! And Cas stuck in the middle with a sad look on his face......
I don't blame Dean for saving Sam against his will. Sam would have done the same despite his claim. But what I hate is that instead of feeling guilty or trying to apologize, he acted like the victim. It's always about his emotions and how he feels. The problem isn't that he's poison, it's how he's absorbed in his self-loathing to even notice how Sam feels.
That is another example to me of the writers having them say things that don't make sense. It contradicts everything they have said and done in past situations and future ones too for that matter.
I don't think it's necessarily about lying, it's about getting the choice ripped out of his hands. I get it. Dean didn't want his brother to die, so to him there is no other choice. I feel more sorry for Dean here. Even though I get it, I get what it's like to make your own choices and someone else comes along and takes that choice out of your hands
That’s the equivalent of rape/regardless that’s from just the physical or mentally. I feel really sorry for Sam’s trauma
Completely agree! The mistake Dean made was not stopping to think how Sam would feel.
Castiel looked so upset when dean left
He looked upset that they fought. And I love how he stayed with Sam to heal him.
Besides the obvious that this is almost better than Dean's "I wish I couldn't feel a damn thing" speech, and that the brothers are once again turning me into a mushy puddle of feels; the real treasure in this scene is Cas' face at 0:47 and 2:00. Like he's crying out silently, 'Please, Dean, don't do this.'
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Totally. I can't help thinking that if Sam wouldn't need to be healed, Cass would totally follow Dean and begin him to let him go with him
it's so interesting to see in the fandom that this situation mirrors so much of charlie's death (sam did go against dean but charlie wanted to do it too, here, dean went against sam's wishes and Kevin was the price) but the fandom only blasts sam. also to everyone talking about how dean didn't have a choice, his love for sam is probably the best thing about him, but sam has his whole history of not having control over his own body and autonomy, which is why he was so hurt here. and he's done things he never meant to, so Kevin in his head was just another thing. sure it wasn't him, but I'm pretty sure he's always gonna think it was
You weren't willing to die, Sam. If you truly were, you would have completed the trials.
Meh. Dean really convinced him not to.
Yeah, that's just it...Sam was moments away from completing the Trials, and when Dean shows up and tells him not to because it will kill him, his response is 'So?' He was ready. He let Dean talk him out of it, because he saw how Not Okay Dean was with the looming threat of Sam's imminent death. He aborted the Trials for Dean...and then almost died anyway.
He was about to. But Dean came in again. He even said he didnt care.
He was about to complete the trial until dean interfere d
He wouldve completed the trials but after Dean tried to convince him to stop he realized how much he meant for his brother. If Dean hadn't came, yeah he was more than willing to die to slam the gates of hell
I understand why Sam is so upset about this... There are a few reasons, obviously because Dean tricked him, he trusted him and he tricked him and lied to him. Then Kevin died at his hands, it may not have been Sam, but it was still his body that did it, and he'll have to have those memories forever. Then there's also the fact that the last time he was possessed by an angel it was Lucifer, and that ended in him going to Hell, coming back soulless and the whole Hallucifer thing, Dean knows that Sam would never want to be possessed by an angel after Lucifer, but he did it anyway.
But I do get where Dean is coming from, not wanting Sam to die...
Sam has been violated so many times, he has every right to be mad and I love Dean and know what he has been thorough but he needs to stop with the brooding martyr crap. It never ends well. People reach out to him all the time but he acts like he is all alone. At least those two idiots are starting to talk to each other, they are so good at being closed off and not dealing with anything it is a start at least. I think we can all agree the biggest victim here is Kevin. I never liked how he was treated and even after death he got screwed.
Their scenes r full of so much emotion...
The end of this scene breaks my heart. Because Sam wanted Dean to figure it out for himself the reason he was so upset about it. That's why when Dean asked "What's that supposed to mean?" He just told him to go, because he wanted him to know what he did, and figure it out for himself. Because if you don't even know what you did wrong, it makes the person you wronged more annoyed because it shows how arrogant and ignorant you are. Also how you seem to think that you were in the right, when you weren't.
On a slightly happier note, at the beginning, Cas just looks between them and turns and walks away. He's just kinda like "Nope, not getting involved in this. Winchester fights never end well..." Hahahahahaha
Agreed with all your points except one. Dean does not think he was in the right. Actually the opposite.
Still doesn't make it any better and doesn't deserve to be let off the hook that easily for it.
@@tylerrice9725 not easily?Dean was mad at Sam in previous seasons for more undrestanable reasons!but he never hurted Sam the way Sam did!if everything was ended here!then we all could blame Dean but Sam did so much worse things in the next episodes!what he has done was no diffrent from a man who is kicking a dog who has already has fresh wounds and is laying on the ground in pain!just like Dean decides to kill himself and Sam give him the damn gun with no problem!if you're one of those people who surprised demon Dean's behaviour in the beginning of season 10, then I must tell you that was actually very soft!after what Sam did in season 9 I actually expected so much worse things!but I confess when Dean didn't care about Sam's safety my relief was glorious! I've been the one out there messed up and scared and alone! damn right you were Sam!
I was looking for the part about "I tell myself I'm doing it for the right reasons". I can't help but picturing them in the mcu n I think they fit in just fine there.
Its weird looking back at this now.. Anyway Im so happy they got through this one too.. They always found back to each other ❤️
I honestly can't help but to feel incredibly sorry for both of them. Plus, Dean's speech and his costant self-loathing in it makes you realize even more how emotionally broken and destroyed he is. And it honestly breaks me to realize that.
We forget the big picture here. Yes these scenes always suck and are sad but without them they will never be as strong as they are now. They will always find their way back
Everybody talking about poor Sam or poor Dean but me poor Castiel, stuck in the iddle of all the awkwardness, having to choose a side.
agree on this one guys supernatural's great at making us fan feel sorry for both the characters at a same time ... i mean isnt it beautiful how we all seemed to get BOTH of their stories and feelings despite the fact we all know winchesters are never the one with all feeling sharing crap and 'chick flick moments' but still we all get the roads and paths they were standing on ... its like we have known them since forever which is to very extend TRUE in itself ...
This SO broke my heart
You know what pisses me off most? Even now, after everything in Season 14 with Alternate Michael, Dean hasn't apologised for this... Even now that he understands what possession feels like and how terrible it is, he hasn't apologised to Sam for taking that choice away from him, for taking away his free will...
I couldn't agree more
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It’s just so sad. Dean has apologised for some things, but there are SO MANY things he’s not apologised for. Sam apologised for literally everything. Even things that aren’t his fault. But dean still hasn’t apologised for the thing that he did to hurt his brother the most... 😔
@@Dazzlefae Hmm like what? Dean apologizes if he has anything to truly apologize for. When Sam didn't look for Dean in S8, it took him 4 seasons to finally sincerely apologize. And as for this, Dean did apologise in the finale.
@@athira2966 You're right about Dean's apology but s 8 Sam literally cried for Dean's forgiveness & chose death over letting Dean down again, not every apology has to be *I'm sorry*, there are many ways to show that & Sam nailed it in the s 8 finale as well.
@@athira2966 When did Dean apologise? Could you tell the episode
Yeah Sam, you were willing to die, but you also agreed to live because of and for Dean.
"With a sober mind and sound memory". It's not wonder they say. Dean was the only one who had a clear mind in this situation. Sam was burned alive by the trials, but his goal was to close the gates of hell even at the cost of his life. Blame is on Dean because Sam was half-alive from trials and loss of blood.
+Екатерина Роднина I get what you say, but that doesn't change the fact that they live for each other. In 10x23 Dean had his mind not a least clear at all, but Sam, as you say "clear mind", changed his Deans decision. So, the blame there is on Sam. But Sam would do it again, as he said, without to even hesitate.
Before Sam started with the trials, he made clear that he wants to live. And in 8x23, when death tried to manipulate him to get him willing to die, Dean represented Sam's WILL to live. And yeah, Sam wasn't clear at his mind that time, but remember when he said to Dean in 10x23, that he was pulled out by Dean. He didn't want to die there actually, and thats what Sam took as parallel to Dean in 10x23: that he was not thinking straight.
And, they both don't have a clear mind when it comes to the life of the other one. As Sam said, they made heart-choices. And there's nothing to wrong or blame on that.
"Before Sam started with the trials, he made clear that he wants to live. " Sam always said it, always. But that didn't stop Sam from jump into the Lucifer's cage. This is nothing more than an excuse. Sam and Dean were agreed both that to close hell is important. And do not confuse the situation. In 10X23 Sam didn't dissuaded Dean for the most part, but inspired him with the idea that Dean is not evil. Sam agreed with Dean's plan and was ready to die in 10X23. You do not understand the situation.
+Екатерина Роднина You really don't get it right? The choices they made, Dean with the trials and Sam with the darkness, where heart-choices. When Sam says Dean's not evil for choosing him over closing the gates of hell, means he understands Dean and why he did it. Sam unleashed a force upen the world, that almost destroyed the whole universum and god, but as we know him, he'd do it again (11x01, 11x09).
My first comment about this clip wasn't blaming Sam. I just said, that he also did a choice, where he choose his brother over the world. But you come and blame Dean, although there's no one to blame here. It's not mistakea or bad choices they made, bc they would make them again.
Our conversation under the clip is on the specific situation. Whatever you say, blame is on Dean here. Doesn't matter what have been guided by Sam, when Dean dissuaded him. Sam was in the Church and clearly felt like dying, but he continued FINISH the ritual. And, by the way, about the choice made. Dean chose the mark of Cain, and thus forced Sam to make a choice on. I do not enjoy blaming Dean, as you seem to think. But I don't like to justify unpleasant actions of Dean that Sam would have done the same as well or great brother's love. When Sam tried to convince Dean that he's not evil, it was not only about closing the gates of hell, but all the things Dean did. You're overacting to all of the statements that Sam made a choice to survive after the trials because of Dean, but all is not so simple. As I said, Sam was not in clear mind. In this state, Sam most likely was led by the instinct of self-preservation. I doubt that Sam could think about great things like love for a brother. And I'm not so sure that if he were in a normal state, then his choice would change the love for the brother. Because Sam love life obviously but he prefer to finish trial. He prefer Lucifer's cage instead of normal life. And release of the Darkness is a very controversial issue, because Dean killed death before spell worked. This is cut it off all the way, even if Sam's spell didn't work. Of course, the issue of Darkness to blame both brothers, but this situation was created by the Dean due to the unreasonable choice. Who can blame Sam for saving brother, which he ownes so much?
I understand both sides, but gosh Dean should've given him a proper apology
I really disliked Dean here. Instead of apologizing he just wallows in self pity like a drama queen. Sam is the one who got possessed, Kevin dies but Dean just feels sorry for himself.
I completely get Sam's pain and feel of betrayal, but I just can't help to side with Dean. I really get his reasons, and a lot of you don't, which is just sad tbh. If Sam was willing to die, was because his state of mind, at that moment, was just in a huge hole of depression. He felt worthless, he couldn't forgive himself for letting Dean down so many times: he was suicidal. And I really think no one would ever let any suicidal loved one commit suicide because that would be just wrong. Instead, you would help them. Let them see they are, in fact, worthy and deserve to have a life. And that's exactly what Dean did. He looked for a way to save his brother from committing suicide. If he would've told Sam the truth about the possessing thing, he knew he would've said no, but not just because he was going to be possessed, but more for the fact that he just didn't want to keep living. And Dean knew that. That it didn't really matter the method, Sam would've still said no. That's why he decided to trick him and save him. He saved him from his own mind. Yes, he should've told him the truth later on, but he knew how Sam would feel and he didn't really even know how to tell him. Besides, he tried to tell him before, but Gadreel kept on threating and convincing him not to. So I think the actual big problem here is just Dean's lack of explanation. If he would've explain himself, his reasons and his thoughts, plus apologizing with Sam for not telling him the truth before, I think the story would've been different. But c'mon! We know how Dean is. He doesn't talk, not about everything. It's just not in him to do it. So yeah, my heart just broke for him. He looked so hopeless. He did what he had to. Maybe not in a way Sam would've wanted to, but his intentions were solid. Plus, you guys have to remember how broken Dean is. You seem to forget that easily. John literally raised him with the only goal of always look out for Sam. That is his job, the only one he has, the only one he knows how to do, so he would always look for a way to help him and do what he thinks is the best for him. Yes, it may be seen as an obssession, that he is too dependent on Sam, but that's how he was raised. It's not his fault. Sam is a grown man, but for Dean, he would always be his little brother. Don't get me wrong, tho. He knows Sam is strong and capable of leading and taking difficult choices, but in situations like this, Sam would always be his priority and would always go back to be his little brother, the one he must protect. Seriously, sometimes it feels like you guys hate on Dean and that makes me feel like he is certainly the most incomprehend character of the series. Not a lot of you really get Dean, and is really sad. Because if you do, you will realize of how a good human being he is. As Cas said "he is the most caring, selfless and loving person ever". There is just not other human being on earth who loves, cares and protects the ones he loves like Dean does. No one. And that's why he is simply the best man in the world, as same as the best and most complicated and broken character of the series. And I truly love him for that.
I completely agree with you!
Also to the people who bash Dean for this clearly don't know what it's like to have to watch their little siblings health slowly decline and not being able to stop it to have to see their little sibling lying on the hospital bed dying I would know because my Big sister was in Dean's position with me because I had Aplastic Aniema back in 2015/16 and by the time I had my Bone Marrow Transplant I was pale and tired and almost on the brink of death (My Big Sister was my Bone Marrow donor) so I understand and sympathize with Dean's actions because how is what Dean did any different to what my big sister did for me
I wonder if there are any more fight scenes or scenes like this that not only involves Sam and Dean but Castiel is there too.
Dean :I didn't have a choice !! I wasn't going to let you die !! And the only answer is I was willing to die .. like that makes it ok or acceptable !!?. how are we supposed to give up on our loved ones and just let them go?? I get why sam is angry I do understand how he feel specialy after the damage that he has done . . But why cant he understand where dean is coming from? And in later scenes accusing him of being too afraid to live alone ?? Wtf ?? Dean's love and sacrifice for sam is far more than anyone has ever did and after that some calls him selfish or he did not respect sam's wishes!!! That is the worse feeling in the world :( :(
But on the other hand I do feel with sam and his pain is justified mabay its just one of those situations were u only need to say sorry and hope for forgiveness!!
I hate it when they fight :( :(
This one breaks me apart every time. Dean didnt mean to hurt Sam
FUCK I LOVE THIS SHOW TO DEATH MAN
A lot of people keep saying "look from Sam's POV" "Sam was willing to die.". Literally there's been so many times Dean was willing to die and save the world, but Sam didn't approve and always did something exactly like what Dean would do to save Sam. So, technically, they both could let the the world burn to save each other.
That's exactly why the writing sucks in this show they're both hypocrites and AGAIN they redid this in Season 15..
Dean would do anything to save his brother x
Ah yes divorce
Of course Sam got Cas' custody, predictable
I would've thought Dean would get custody of Cas. Not in a Destiel way. The only ship I liked with Cas was Megstiel.
I honestly don't know how Sam does it, Having dean for a brother. I get that he didn't want Sam to die back in the trials, but at the same time, he should learn to respect sam's decisions. If he wanted to finish it regardless of the cost, then that should be the end of it. But "that's not in him" is it? And really this is where everything started to go to crap for them. It was after this that dean makes the genius decision to take on the mark and not know what it does to him, only what it can do, and then has the fantastic idea to fight metatron. By himself. Don't get me wrong I like dean, he can be a dick at times but he has his moments. But for the rest of season 9, it was dean making one stupid decision after another and season 10, is where he finds out just how screwed he is and tries to fix it.
Would YOU let the last piece of your family left die? You have to understand that Dean did what he did because he doesn't want to be alone. I don't like season 9 either, but I can at least understand why he did what he did, stupid as it was.
+Al Speid I understand that he didn't want to be alone but at what cost? He lied to Sam, he lost the tablets, demons still run rampant on earth and on top of that, Kevin was killed because he lied. I get that he didn't want his brother to die but ultimately, that's Sams choice to make, not deans.
Totally agree about dean not respecting Sam's decision, I hate that people hated sam after that when clearly he had a pretty good reason to be mad at dean
+spngirl55 and what's worse, he never even apologized for it. Instead he just made excuses, took all the blame and ran. And let's be real, if dean and Sams positions were reversed, like way back from the church to now, what would dean have done?
Todd Donerson If the roles were reversed, Dean would've stopped the trials with littler convincing then it took Sam, and Dean would've also stopped the trials because he doesn't want to leave Sam to fend for himself. I dunno, these two have been written so inconsistently over the years that I can't tell.
It's really annoying how people see dean in a bad way , I'm not saying dean is always right but this situation ? sam said before doing the trials he expect a win win situation like ( both are alive! ) a light end of the tunnel type of a situation , but not dean ! ( He saw it as a dead end situation and wanted to do it by himself) sam asked dean to trust him this time (sam wanted to fix things as a payback due to the things he had done before , eg; the apocalypse ) so dean did support sam. That time before ending the ritual dean convinced sam that sam is not guilty so sam wanted to live and decided to stay , he agreed to stay with dean! but after he went to coma he decided by his own in his dream to choose death even though it's not his time , he said to dean that what dean has done was selfish by saving sam, he did that because he doesn't want to be alone ,okay let's say yes then and what about sam? his decision was selfish too , he gave false hopes about a win win situation even though dean never see it that way and sam failed , even in the second trial remember what happened? they have to save an innocent soul from hell and send to heaven that time sam was stuck in purgatory with bobby if dean couldn't save sam without benny's help how are they going to complete the trials and have a win win situation according to sam? He failed to do it alone somehow without help. he couldn't save himself if dean was not there for him. Sam's always willing to sacrifice himself without a proper plan because of the guilt he feel inside , even castiel realized it while sam wanted to torture himself by castiel. Sam has this feeling to sacrifice himself to make things right. and My point is most of the time when sam asked dean to trust him with his doings he couldn't succeed . He trusted ruby , killed Lilith & etc. Even he couldn't succeed in these trials and have a win win situation as he mentioned to dean. What happened to sam is not good but all that happened to him was because of his false hope of a win win situation to a lie that made by metatron, and it's not sam's or dean's fault, and then Sam failed and he chose death. Isn't that selfish ? After saying dean that he'll stay with dean? (Dean's happiness = sam being alive , Sam's happiness = rest in peace ) REST IN PEACE AFTER GIVING FALSE HOPES ABOUT A WIN WIN SITUATION TO DEAN AND FAILED ? If things are going to be like this why sam asked dean to trust him in the first place? he should have listened to dean and let him do the trials because dean knew one of them is going to die , and dean doesn't want sam to be dead because he knew sam's mind sam wanted to live a normal life (sam is not obsessive like dean if he can make a decision to move on with life he can do it) that's why he stopped searching for dean when he went to purgatory. In this situation Sam couldn't win as he expected then he failed then he broke the promise to stay with dean , dean was hopeless and emotional he doesn't have any choice and it's normal to act that way. Sam leave that choice to dean.
In this situation they had no agreement ( when sam went to lucifer's cage dean kept his promise not to bring back sam from hell even though he wanted to because they had an agreement. ) , if sam doesn't break his promise to stay with dean then dean will not feel this much of guilt because of what he did to sam and all that happened. Even though sam doesn't want to be alive gadreel saved both castiel and sam even though he killed kevin :/
I love both sam and dean but this time sam was rudely hurt dean's feelings and I feel an ache in my heart for dean :/
Yeye pity party Dean Winchester. Sam had all the right to be pissed and Dean never truly apologized, instead went on this pity ride. Great...
I'm sorry, can someone explain me what happens in this episode? I'm italian in fact I didn't understand all the words!
P.S: How much can I love them? They are beautiful
Basically...Sam is upset with Dean because Dean tricked Sam into saying yes to an angel possessing him who ended up not being who he said he was (the angel) and then ended up killing Kevin....Dean saved Sam's life again without Sam's permission.
iloveinu2death I don't think the issue was with Dean saving Sam's life without his permission so much as it was about the way Dean went about saving his life. Sam had been possessed twice before Dean helped Gadreel trick him into giving his consent and he knew that Sam would rather die than choose to be possessed again. When he was possessed by Meg she killed that hunter guy Steve Wandell and when he was possessed by Lucifer he killed Bobby and Castiel and Sam remembered all of it. And that's not even getting into the stuff he did when he was missing his soul. Sam has a really long and complicated history of not being in control of his own body and mind, so of course he would object to being possessed again and Dean knew that. The fact that Gadreel then betrayed Dean's trust by siding with Metatron and then went on a killing spree while in Sam's body (with one of the victims being Kevin, who was practically a family member to him) just made it all worse. I do agree with you that things between Sam and Dean would have been a lot better if Dean had just apologized to Sam and promised to try and make it up to him instead of taking off on his own, though. It's now a full season later and I still don't think he's apologized to him yet, although Sam seems to have forgiven him now.
He did apologise in the Finale ( just before confronting Metatron, he was about to say it, Sam stopped him, saying "I know." ) And when it came to Dean, Sam went and did very shady things himself, some of which led to Charlie's death. So Sam being so Mad in this season going as far as to say they weren't brothers anymore, becomes all the more jarring.
Both kevin and Charlie's deaths r on them both due to their inability of letting each other go and and wanting to save each other and nothing good comes out of it and it comes at a cost.
Sam, when taking the trials: This is a suicide mission for you, Dean. I’ll do de trials to show you the light at the end of the tunnel. I want to LIVE and so should you
Sam, in the s8 finale: doesn’t finish the ritual, choosing life instead
Sam, now: Dean i was CLEARLY READY TO DIE
convenient change of mind right there sammy
In s 8 both brothers were so moody.
Dean went from blaming Sam for quitting hunting (even more than purgatory thing) to suggesting him to go back to Amelia.
And Sam went from abandoning Dean in purgatory & talking about going to normal life again & again to be willing to die rather than letting Dean down again.
But in s 9 Sam chose death because the last time he came back, it had a horrible result so didn't want it to be repeated again & only came back because of Dean.
anyone know what the song at the end is called?
I love that the comment section is actually quite civilized and has good discussion rather than a mass of Dean girls blaming Sam like in every other video that has Sam standing up to Dean.
Did you watch season 10 ? Coz sam did the same thing to save dean , in S9 because of saving sam they lost Kevin & in s10 in the process of saving dean they lost charlie ( saving dean from mark of cain) and in the process of saving demon dean sam had to sell a man's soul to summon crowley to get back dean. Sam's pure intention was to save dean but accidentally that guy's soul was sold because of sam and he died with dean's hands (situations reversed) sam killed kevin accidentally because dean wanted to save sam and dean killed that man in s10 because he was a demon and sam sold that man's soul accidentally in the process of saving dean mission and Charlie died too and dean blamed sam for that like the way in S9 when sam blamed dean for Kevin's death.
Summary :
S8 : sam and dean both agreed to choose each other instead of closing the gates of hell coz one had to die ( both choosed each other)
S9 - dean accidentally killed kevin by Sam's hands ( process of saving Sam)
S10 - sam accidentally killed an innocent man by Dean's hands. (Sold his soul accidentally in the process of saving dean)
S10 - sam accidentally let charlie die in the process of saving dean from the mark of cain.
S10: to save dean sam set darkness free and started an apocalypse again.
S10 ending - finally both choosed each other once again
@@heeerooo5124 S 9 is my least fav season of Sam but in this scene he had every right to be mad. I don't blame Dean at all but what they did for eachother were not really the same. Dean used Sam's love for him to trick him for possession, remember? He actually got Sam's body involved, Kevin was killed by Sam's own hands though it wasn't actually him, the guilt is not really the same. Not to forget Sam had absolutely no choice but Dean had also got Crowley in his trunk but didn't get to him after Gadreel arrived, he could do thtat too, you know! Neither of them blameworthy for me, but not that similar either.
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Okay but Cas watching them from afar is the fandom in a nutshell.
If Sam knew he might have freaked, ejected the angel, and died I don’t really see why it’s a big unforgivable drama myself 🤷🏻♂️ dean will give anything to save Sam, no matter what the cost I bet most of us wish we had someone who loved us that much
One quick thing castiel should still have his wings, he wasn’t casted out, his grace was removed and metatron send him to earth and then casted out all the angels, so when he got his grace back he should have had his wings, as it was being casted out that damaged all angels wings
What's the music at 2:23 ?
This show post-S5 would have been so much better if they let Dean and Sam finally split up and had two branching stories that would converge again, occasionally. There were too many moments like these that never lead to real consequences that the two had to grow from.
I remember even when they announced the show was continuing after S5, I disliked seeing Sam return to Dean and then Dean losing family because of it. It was also a missed opportunity for him to empathize with his dad, finally. He never learned to understand the importance of training his family to protect themselves because the writers took the easy way out.
Sam and Dean were written so hyprocritical Dean also gets mad at Sam for saving him when he doesnt wanna be saved yet ignores when Sam tells him the same thing. I guess when it all comes down to it both of the brothers say what they dont mean when they're angry but at the end of the day they know damn well that they can't live without each other.
I would follow him wherever he went. I wouldn't stop. If being a part of their lives means I get killed then so be it. Safety is overrated and boring. At least I'd actually live with them and when I die, I know they'd remember me and my life would mean something. And I'd never allow them to beat themselves up about it.
Heart wouldn't let me die cause it knows me
I so love this video it so cool and sweet
I can't be the only one who thinks that Kevin's death was NIETHER of their faults, right???
why noone knows the name if soundtrack? :/
Soundtrack 2:25?
0:20 You lied to me.
On a completely unrelated note, remember when dean was on the phone with bobby i think and was talking about how sam started the apocalypse shit and sam walks in and its really weird and depressing and i wanna be a part of the dean bullying club.
The song?
Cas looks like a kid whose parents are getting divorced.
He in the back staring like 🧍♂️
😢
1.1 and 11 ⭐
Dean always gotta make everything about him. It's a good thing i love Sam cause Dean has annoyed me since season 4.
You must have absolutely loved it when Sam betrayed his brother, went running off with Ruby and started the damn apocalypse.
What Sam was doing back then was certainly wrong, but Dean managed to argue against it in ways that were frustrating. Nobody knew that him killing Lilith would start the apocalypse. As far as everyone knew until the very end, killing her was the only way to stop it, and Sam had the power to realistically do so. The whole, 'each other before the entire world thing' certainly grew tiresome as it went on season after season. My favorite part was when Dean told Sam to use the knife instead of his powers, blatantly telling him that he'd rather murder innocent people than have Sam do his thing. The whole thing is grey, and its a matter of perspective, but Dean just happened to grate on me, while I found Sam to be more relatable.
Hey , I get it, you relate with Sam more. I like Sam a lot , too. But , I am just defending Dean of things that are not his fault always. Dean never blamed Sam for killing Lilith, he blamed him for betraying his trust. Kind of like what Sam is doing in this video. Both are justified. Yes, it has been repeated that both choose each other over the world. That is their fatal flaw, their achilles heel. Dean acknowledges this. But when push comes to shove, they are unable to let the other one go for the world ( Even though Dean did do it in "Swan Song" ). This flaw defines their characters. As far as using the demon knife goes, Dean says that once, but on being rebuked for it by Sam, he backs off. But that very Sam , goes on ahead draining blood from possessed people, killing the victims. As you said, the situation is gray. Dean would rather save his brother from going down a dark path than save the possessed ones( at least that's his first instinct). Sam weighs the situation with logic and decides when it is okay for him to kill the victims for the "greater good". I loved it when they showed the repercussions. That is the problem with his 'logic' here. Using evil means to get good ends generally results in catastrophe. It IS a matter of perspective, and Sam just seemed to be more jarring to me. Yes, Dean is flawed. Who isn't? Yes, Dean chooses his family over the world. It is easy to take the high road and say one would not do the same. But when push comes to shove, almost everyone does choose Family. Hell, even Sam did it a lot of times. When Dean is at fault, his first instinct is to take on all the responsibility and guilt for it, not to apologise. As far as I see, taking responsibility is much better than an apology in most scenarios anyway. But that is just his first instinct, his reflex. After reflex, he does the logical thing as well. He did apologise to Sam and to Kevin's ghost later on.
opositte!sam was an unlikeble person scince season 4!only in season 10 he finally redeemed
Just a detail, I know, but when Dean is such a good mechanic, why can´t he give that pore bonedry doorhinge som grease?
But what was the problem. Sam said the problem wasn’t dean being poisoned sooo
I think he meant they're *both* poisoned or sth like that.
@@rahaa.sh_307 gotchu! Tyy!
The sad thing is Dean never "burned" for Kevin. Infact Kevin burned in hell 🥺
The fact that Dean is never going to let Sam ever die in peace is so sad. Dean needs to get over the fact that he’s not failing his brother if Sam dies, he’s only bringing more pain to him and himself.
He treats his brother as if he were a little kid and that was suppose to change since Season 5, but clearly that’s no longer the case.
How can it rain but they aren't getting wet?
Tbh deans getting a lot of h8 for this but if the shoe was on the other foot Sam would have done the same they love each other to much to lose each other
Yeah too bad sam was so mad at dean that he said he wouldent and hurt Dean's feelings
Dean does everything for Sam as that's his job . Sam needs to be less selfish at times.
Uh, no. Dean and Gadreel both acknowedged that they knew Sam would rather die than have his autonomy ripped away from him AGAIN. Sam should have control over those things. But he couldn't Sam let go, so he tricked and lied to him for months, and now Sam will have the memory of killing Kevin for the rest of his life. Sam was completely right of being pissed.
He wasn't one bit selfish in this scene on the contrary he was too soft on Dean.
Dean was being a dick who didn't even apologize, didn't try to understand how Sam feels because all he could think about is how he feels "I'm poison". It's like Sam has said. That isn't the problem. The problem is that he's too absorbed in his self-loathing to even see how Sam feels.
Wtf? Dean lied and deceived Sam for months. How is Sam the selfish one? Dean is a controller. He's too wrapped around Sam and it's not healthy.
@@amberxv4777 sam is selfish one because in the season 8 he didn't search for dean and let himself believe that he is dead to have a stupid boring life with the most unlikeble and also married female character on the show! this time dean didn't do that to sam and even that i agree that gadreel was the worst obtion!he saved sam's life and even cas was agree with that but sam was too selfish!his reasons for accepting death was also selfish!(i've been the one out there messed up and scared and alone!) damn right you were sam!he should've learn that in this episode!and also in the end of the season he took gadreel's side after all the times he hurt dean which was even more heartbreaking!dean became a demon and left which is worse than possession!why didn't sam just let him go?he always wanted to get away from dean!those stupid amelia thingy!even by chosing death over him!well that time dean gived him one thing he always wanted!a life without dean!he can die!he can go and find another married or no identity
chick!one word(we certenly no longer family) why sam couldn't just let him go?dean wasn't dead and wasn't going to die either!he also had his dreamy life!just didn't want to do anything with sam or cas(of course he thoght cas is dead alongside with gadreel)he gived sam what exactly he wanted!
@@xxwhispersxx2856 he is total selfish as i said to AmberXV! and sam it total healthy about dean!right!that's why he didn't just let him go while dean gived exactly what he wanted when he left as a demon!
1. I don't blame Dean at all for doing everything he could do to save Sam because I know all to well how far a big sibling will go to protect their baby sibling because a few years a go I was diagnosed with Aplastic Aniema and the only cure was a Bone Marrow Transplant and my big sister was my bone marrow donor
2. The reason why I was annoyed with Sam during this season was because even when I was tired during my recovery even when I was bored out of my mind because I was under so many restrictions I never NOT ONCE yelled at my big sister or tell her that I didn't want to be her sister anymore in fact she managed a way for me to able to watch Finding Dory on the computer because I couldn't do to an actual theater and we would spend a lot of time together when she came home from work
I normally like sam but in this sense I really hated him
Why? Dean was an ignorant selfish person here. Why does everyone hate Sam for wanting to make choices about HIS OWN LIFE?
Sam was completely right in this whole situation. He's had his free will taken from him so many times, and Dean knows it, and then Dean goes and takes it away from him *again* by tricking him into possession. He lied to him about it for so long, and it made Sam concerned through a lot of it when he did so, because Dean pretty much made him feel crazy for thinking he's missing time or whatever, when there's a real reason why and Dean is the cause of it. Then Dean goes on to have a pity party for himself, not even acknowledging the pain he caused Sam by doing this...
Why sam has the right to be mad at dean. Dean made a mistake that ended in Kevin dying and a rogue angel sam completely and dean took Sam's choice away I get why dean did it he loves sam too much to let him die but it was pretty selfish and I'm saying this as a dean girl who mostly takes Dean's side
"People get close to me, they get killed" -Enter charlie-
what's the song at 2:25???? PLS